FYI.

Thanks a lot, Canada.

Perhaps the great powers should make sure that the Arab countries are not invited to these conferences. Since they seem to invariably turn them into anti-Israel and sometimes anti-American charades from which documents emerge that are an embarrassment to people with normal sensibilites.

Our hideous Prime Minister Chretien (spit) and his pathetic Liberal Party (again spit) wouldn't dare say anything that might possibly cost even one "peaceful moslem" vote. He continues to deny we have any refugee/terrorism problems in Canada and has become an abject embarassment to the nation. He won't do a blooody thing unless X43 takes him out for a round behind the woodshed.

It's a crime that the people and organizations who have morals are not better organized. Somehow I think a boycott of Canada and Canadian products would change the minds of these people. I have found that people who hate Jews are usually cowards.

"Violence inflicted on civilians on both sides" - there they go again, trying to draw moral equivalence between blowing up teenagers and shooting at someone who's throwing rocks or molotov cocktails at your face, or sometimes even shooting at you.

This is a perfect example of why I no longer have any respect for the United Nations. They have long been an internation joke. Just as the famous quote goes that a democracy can only last until the general public realizes it can vote itself largess from the public coffers...so to is the current status of the United Nations. It has turned into a pathetic organization controlled by petty third world dictators who, by virtue of their Majority status associated by being in the large group of petty third world dictators, has used the position in the United Nations to vote themselves large aid and benefits packages for "foreign assitance" at the cost of those rich industrialized nations that pay the bill. Those same thugs sit on the UN commitees and commissions that handle oversite and grant approval for these said grants and loans and when the money rolls in they line their pockets...or rather their off shore bank accounts. This has been happening for years and has recently reached its peak when the U.S. got replaced on the human rights committee by CHAD, the only slave owning state in the world. Again recently, look at the rediculous UN international racism convention which quickly degenrated into Arab and African nations banning together to condemn Jews (how is that for racism), and then force an apology out of the Western World (U.S. predominantly) for the sole purpose of taking their case to the world courts with an admission of guilt. Only the biggest fool in the world would not think this eventually would translate into multi trillion dollar reparations lawsuits for African nations. We stand in the midst of a world where all the poor countries of the world are trying to Bilk the riches from the western world and in turn bring them down and destroy them. The U.N. lies at the heart of this and the time is rapidly approaching for the United States to remove itself from membership. Up with NATO and down with the U.N. I see no reason why a group of incompetent dictators who cant even manage their own countries affairs should be grnated the ability to tell the rest of the world how to run theirs.

This is a perfect example of why I no longer have any respect for the United Nations. They have long been an internation joke. Just as the famous quote goes that a democracy can only last until the general public realizes it can vote itself largess from the public coffers...so to is the current status of the United Nations. It has turned into a pathetic organization controlled by petty third world dictators who, by virtue of their Majority status associated by being in the large group of petty third world dictators, has used the position in the United Nations to vote themselves large aid and benefits packages for "foreign assitance" at the cost of those rich industrialized nations that pay the bill. Those same thugs sit on the UN commitees and commissions that handle oversite and grant approval for these said grants and loans and when the money rolls in they line their pockets...or rather their off shore bank accounts. This has been happening for years and has recently reached its peak when the U.S. got replaced on the human rights committee by CHAD, the only slave owning state in the world. Again recently, look at the rediculous UN international racism convention which quickly degenrated into Arab and African nations banning together to condemn Jews (how is that for racism), and then force an apology out of the Western World (U.S. predominantly) for the sole purpose of taking their case to the world courts with an admission of guilt. Only the biggest fool in the world would not think this eventually would translate into multi trillion dollar reparations lawsuits for African nations. We stand in the midst of a world where all the poor countries of the world are trying to Bilk the riches from the western world and in turn bring them down and destroy them. The U.N. lies at the heart of this and the time is rapidly approaching for the United States to remove itself from membership. Up with NATO and down with the U.N. I see no reason why a group of incompetent dictators who cant even manage their own countries affairs should be grnated the ability to tell the rest of the world how to run theirs.

FYI, Canada has about 350,000 Jewish citizens. They vote heavily for the Liberal Party, which has many Jewish parliamentary representatives and cabinet members. Of those Jewish Canadians who don't vote Liberal, most vote for the smaller, farther-left New Democratic Party. Although Canadian conservative parties have Jewish members, including elected politicians, and have no history of anti-Semitism, they are lucky to get 20% of the Jewish vote. The federal Liberal Party's anti-Israel policies and rhetoric have been going on for many years now, but do not seem to have cost them any Jewish support. You figure it out.

To accuse Israel of violence - That's appalling.

You said it. Especially when the ARAB accusers aided and abetted the slime who murdered 25 Israelis last week and over 4000 others on 9-11.

I am the last person on earth that you should waste your time on.

Do you really want to say that? It might lead some to conclude that your mind is impervious to fact or reason.

Socialists, if there is no land left to steal in there own countries they try in somebody else's. The Arabs are squatters in Israel, and need to be ejected. Let Iran, Turkey, or Egypt contend with them.

Oh...that we knew. (-:

Aussie moral stand bump.

The problem is that most Jews think it was Marx, not Moses who got the Law from God.
The majority of Jews of European decent vote left in every country. Look at Voting patterns in Europe, US, Canada, Australia, South Africa, and Israel.
Last year, Jews voted for the terrorist supporting Hillary Clinton over the pro-Israel Rick Lazio.
I am the exception, not the rule.

Ezra Levant (late of the Alliance), has written extensively about the politics of the Canadian Jewish elites, particularly of those in Toronto.

The Toronto Jewish elite practices a form of “radical chic”, where they assume certain cultural positions and take on certain political views that are “progressive”, “avant-garde” and very, very fashonable.

Much has been written about the “Political Stupidity of the Jews”. While much of this material focuses on and reflects the situaition in the US, it has certain relevance to the situation in Canada. The bottom line is that Canadian Jews constantly take on positions and political views that are detrimental to their own interests. Why they do this reamins a mystery. Look at the reaction of Canadian Jews to the Alliance. Here is a party that has strong pro-Israel positions, and has gone out of it’s way to make contact with and communicate with Canadian Jews, yet they fared poorly with that group. With all the anti-Israel rhetoric, with all the anti-semitic jibes by Liberal polioticians, Canadian Jews still dutifully, obediently, unquestioningly voted Liberal virtually en-masse.

Herd mentality, conformity, and maintenace of social acceptance and false prestige, is far more important than voting for and making upopular political choices. There is far, far more to this than I’m prepared to write about just now. Maybe I’ll prepare an essay on the politics of Jews for posting. Much has been writen about this though (from an American perspective), so I’ll have to add my Canadian spin to it.

Here are a couple of Ezra Levant's articles on Jewish voting habits, in Canada.

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Is Jewish love affair with the Liberals over?

By Ezra Levant
National Post
October 13, 2000

Will Canada's condemnation of Israel at the United Nations cost the Liberal party the Jewish vote?

Traditionally, Jews love to vote Liberal. Just look at the ridings with the highest concentration of Jews -- Thornhill, a suburb of Toronto, or Mount Royal, a riding in Montreal. Those sorts of districts elected Jewish Liberal MPs with massive margins -- more than 90% in one case. Other Jewish ridings, such as Toronto's Willowdale and Eglinton-Lawrence, elect Liberal non-Jews almost as overwhelmingly.

If a couple of Jewish rallies on Wednesday night are any indication of Jewish voting intentions for this year's election campaign, however, the Liberal hammerlock on the Jews is now in doubt. In Thornhill, 2,000 Jews jammed into one of Toronto's largest synagogues and another 2,000 crowded outside to listen on loudspeakers. They came to a rally organized by Jewish leaders as a non-partisan show of support for Israel, currently at war with the Palestine Liberation Organization. But those 4,000 Jews in Thornhill -- and the 2,500 who attended a similar event in Montreal -- saved some of their loudest reaction for Jean Chrétien, not Yasser Arafat. The Toronto rally exploded into hooting and booing when Canada's anti-Israel vote at the Security Council was mentioned. Keith Landy, an officer of the congenitally liberal Canadian Jewish Congress, called the UN resolution proof of a "world gone mad." When Mr. Landy mentioned that Stockwell Day, the leader of the Canadian Alliance, had condemned the UN vote as "anti-Israel," the crowd erupted into sustained applause. Elinor Caplan, the Jewish Liberal who represents the riding, was nowhere to be seen -- her spokesman says she was whisked off to Halifax for a meeting about "economic development." But a Jewish candidate for the Alliance in nearby Willowdale stood outside, handing out brochures as fast as he could.

Irwin Cotler, the Jewish Liberal MP for Mount Royal, was less shy than Ms. Caplan. He attended the Montreal rally and fired a broadside into his own Liberal cabinet -- of which Ms. Caplan is a member -- for voting against Israel. "This resolution is one-sided, prejudicial and misinformed," he said, to wild applause. (Mount Royal riding includes the City of Cote St-Luc, which has the largest per-capita population of Jews in North America.)

Jewish disappointment with the Liberals is not unprecedented, but this kind of acute dissatisfaction is new. It was the Liberal party that kept Jews out of Canada during the Second World War, and always scuttled attempts at prosecuting Nazi war criminals living Canada. Liberal governments, especially Pierre Trudeau's, never achieved the same warmth toward Israel that the U.S. did, or even Brian Mulroney's Tory government. Those concerns always simmered. But Canada's vote for the UN resolution -- just one day before the solemn Jewish holiday of Yom Kippur -- actually boiled things over.

Had this happened a few months ago, it is unlikely upset Jewish voters would have had any political alternative. Svend Robinson, the NDP's foreign affairs spokesman, is unabashedly pro-PLO. And the Tory foreign affairs critic admitted in a large Jewish newspaper that his knowledge of Israel was limited to surfing the Internet for "a few hours."

The Reform party and its leader, Preston Manning, were always treated with suspicion by Jewish voters in Toronto and Montreal who feared the party was a reincarnation of the old Social Credit party, with its anti-Semitism. It was an unfair charge -- in fact, Mr. Manning's own father had purged the anti-Semites from the Social Credit party shortly after becoming premier, back in 1943. But the charge against Mr. Manning and Reform stuck. The fact Bob Mills, Reform's foreign affairs critic, was an Arabist did not help matters much, either.

But all that has changed. Stockwell Day is too young to be a Socred. And Monte Solberg, the Alliance's new foreign affairs critic, is ideologically conservative and pro-Israel.

For months, Mr. Day has been courting Jewish voters on another slow-burning issue: the fact Jewish day schools receive no funding in Ontario, unlike Catholic schools. So when Messrs. Day and Solberg issued their denunciation of the UN's resolution, they were building on a good first impression. It is paying off: Canada's Jewish newspapers now give the Alliance balanced, sometimes positive coverage.

It is too early to predict the end of the longstanding Jewish love affair with the Liberals. But thousands of geographically concentrated Jewish voters have sounded the first notes of a rebellion, in a spontaneous booing of the Liberal party that probably surprised even themselves. If the situation in the Middle East continues to deteriorate, and if Lloyd Axworthy, the Minister of Foreign Affairs, continues his hard line on Israel, a lot of Jews might find themselves voting for the Alliance -- something they would never have dreamed of just a few months ago.

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And one more...

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Canadian Jews against Israel
The Liberals can count on support no matter what

Ezra Levant
National Post
February 9, 2001

John Manley has been Canada's Foreign Minister for less than two months, but already he is making a name for himself as a foe of Israel. Mr. Manley's diplomats at the United Nations vote like clockwork to condemn Israel: Israel is the sole blameworthy party in the Mideast violence; Israel's Golan Heights belong to Syria, and Jewish towns there are illegal; Palestinians around the world should make land claims against Israel; Israel must not use any natural resources -- including water, one presumes -- in the West Bank or Jerusalem; Israel's claim to Jerusalem, its capital, is illegal. On Friday, Mr. Manley outdid himself: nearly a dozen anti-Israel votes, all in one day.

The chutzpah of these votes is incredible; one can imagine what the reaction would be if the UN declared Ottawa to be an illegal capital, built on occupied aboriginal land, or ordered Canada not to use resources in Quebec, without Lucien Bouchard's permission. But the most amazing part is that the Liberal attacks on Israel are being conducted with the support of Canada's Jewish community leadership.

To be sure, Canada's UN votes have caused anger amongst grassroots Jews and non-Jews upset about abandoning the only democracy and reliable friend in the region. Back in October, when the UN started its latest tear, 10,000 Jews rallied in protest across the country; Jews, who have historically voted Liberal en masse, began to flirt with the Canadian Alliance. In Toronto alone, the Alliance fielded four Jewish candidates, attracted by the party's pro-Israel stance and its pledge to provide tax credits for children who go to religious day schools.

What followed that grassroots rebellion, however, was an orchestrated campaign to prop up the Liberals and discredit the Alliance and its leader, Stockwell Day. Take the example of Exodus, a small Jewish-Russian newspaper in Toronto, which printed an editorial supporting the Alliance. Art Eggleton, a Liberal Cabinet minister, called the Canadian Jewish Congress -- which receives federal grants -- to complain. Moshe Ronen, the CJC president, phoned the publisher of Exodus to rebuke him for breaking ranks with the Liberals. Mr. Ronen's brother, Dan, is a failed Liberal candidate; Moshe is now the party's Jewish whip.

Pro-Liberal Jewish newspapers do not taste Mr. Ronen's wrath, of course. The week of UN Resolution 1322, the worst of the votes, The Canadian Jewish News chose instead to run a front-page tribute to Pierre Trudeau. In the edition before election day, it ran a column by Bruce Elman, denouncing Mr. Day as a threat to Jewish values -- but not disclosing that Mr. Elman had been a campaign worker for Anne McLellan, a Liberal minister. A whole page was devoted to the anti-Semitism of the Social Credit party in the 1940s -- with the implication that the Alliance is the modern equivalent.

And then there was the huge ad in The Jewish Tribune, the B'nai B'rith's newspaper, ostensibly to mark a Holocaust memorial in September. But it, too, was published in the edition before the election. It praised, in bold print, Elinor Caplan and Mr. Eggleton, both of whom were running against Jewish Alliance candidates.

There is nothing wrong with a political ad, but this one was sponsored by B'nai B'rith, the CJC and the federal government itself, in the guise of a Holocaust tribute. Odd, that. Ms. Caplan had just committed a cardinal sin in Jewish circles by exploiting the Holocaust for political gain, accusing the Alliance of being a haven for Holocaust deniers and anti-Semites, without evidence. Last Thursday, when a Toronto school trustee compared the Ontario government to the Nazis, the CJC responded within hours, blasting the trustee publicly. Ms. Caplan got a free ad instead.

In that ad lies the key to this puzzle. It would have made sense for the Jewish establishment -- the CJC, the B'nai B'rith, the Jewish newspapers -- to remain neutral during the campaign. And it might have made sense for the Jewish leadership to protest the Liberals' anti-Israel policies and opposition to school choice. But for the Jewish establishment to apologize for the Liberals and to pile on the Alliance can only be explained by partisanship in the community's top ranks, and the loyalty demanded in return for multicultural grants. What else can explain away the remarks by David Goldberg, a lobbyist with the Canada-Israel Committee? He publicly dismissed the UN votes as nothing to "lose sleep over," "perfunctory" and "nothing that's new" -- and tut-tutted the National Post for reporting them.

The election is over. Mr. Manley, Ms. Caplan and Mr. Eggleton were re-elected. They have learned that Jews -- or at least official Jews -- can be taken for granted, no matter what the Liberals do to Israel. The Alliance has learned how Jews -- or at least official Jews -- repay the only party that took the political risk of supporting Israel and Jewish day school funding. Don't expect Mr. Manley's anti-Israel votes to stop anytime soon.

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