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Congress to Vote Resolution Against Iraq
Worlnetdaily ^ | December 11, 2001 | Jon Dougherty

Posted on 12/11/2001 8:20:39 AM PST by BplusK

On December 4, a Resolution against Iraq was introduced in the Congress.

The resolution – called HJR 75, which has eight co-sponsors – states:

(1) the president and the United Nations should insist on monitoring weapons development in Iraq, as required by United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 (April 3, 1991);

(2) Iraq should allow United Nations weapons inspectors into Iraq, as required by Security Council Resolution 687;

(3) Iraq remains in material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations; and

(4) the refusal by Iraq to admit United Nations weapons inspectors into any facility covered by the provisions of Security Council Resolution 687 should be considered an act of aggression against the United States and its allies.

Sponsored by Reps. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., Porter Goss, R-Fla., and Henry Hyde, R-Ill., the bill is "scheduled for markup" tomorrow – a process whereby changes to the measure are made. Once finished, members will send it to the Rules Committee, then out to the full House for a vote.
The measure is already scheduled for markup by the full House Committee on International Relations – not even a subcommittee first. That makes this bill a high priority. The committee is scheduled to convene at 2 p.m. Eastern tomorrow.

Hyde is chairman of the International Relations committee.
Other lawmakers, especially the resolution's sponsors, appear convinced Iraq should be next on the administration's hit list.
"There is overwhelming evidence that Saddam Hussein continues full speed ahead in his quest to obtain weapons of mass destruction," Graham said earlier this month, when HJR 75 was introduced. "Without inspections and oversight from the United States and international community, I think he will eventually acquire the capability. For the security of the United States and our allies, we must not allow that to happen."
"Iraq has been operating its weapons program in the shadows," Graham continued. "If that continues, it should be viewed as a direct threat and considered an act of aggression against the United States and our allies."

Kevin Bishop, a spokesman for Graham, told WND that HJR 75 was "directly related" to the administration's ongoing terrorist war and was to be used "in addition to" existing congressional authorization.
Asked how U.S. officials know that Saddam is attempting to revitalize his weapons program – since weapons inspectors have been banned from Iraq since 1997 – Bishop said "Iraqi defectors and American intelligence agencies" have evidence pointing in that direction.
"I don't think there is anyone who disputes that Iraq is trying to obtain weapons of mass destruction," he added.

Still, others are opposed to expanding the current terror war to Iraq. In fact, entire governments remain opposed.

In an interview Sunday in Business Week, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld left open the possibility that the war could be expanded to a number of different nations suspected of harboring terrorist factions.
Asked how long the U.S. could tolerate Baghdad's pursuit of weapons of mass destruction, Rumsfeld said that question was "above his pay grade."
"We've got six to 10 countries on the terrorist list. [Some] already have chemical and biological weapons programs. A number have been pursuing nuclear capabilities," he told Business Week. "When weapons were less lethal and [casualties] involved thousands instead of hundreds of thousands, or millions, of people, you could make a mistake and it wasn't terminal. [Now,] when you're dealing with that many countries and with the close linkages [among] terrorist networks ... it forces you to make different calculations."


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The full article by Jon Dougherty is centered on Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas)'s reaction against this Iraq Resolution. Click on the link above to read the full article. However, I took the liberty to use only the most important news.

If this Iraq Resolution passes, then that means the Congress is authorizing the President to attack Iraq.
Point # 4 clearly identifies Iraq as being an aggressor against the USA. In this perspective, that would officially put Iraq among "those nations, organizations or persons the President determines have planned, authorized, committed or aided terrorist attacks or have harbored such organizations or persons." (according the language used in the Congress resolution authorizing the president to use force against terrorists after the September 11 attacks). In other words, after this Iraq Resolution passes, the President will have the definite freedom to deal with Iraq as he chooses.

1 posted on 12/11/2001 8:20:39 AM PST by BplusK
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To: BplusK
Any idea if it will pass? I would assume it would make it through the House, but not the Senate.
2 posted on 12/11/2001 8:27:43 AM PST by Reagan's_Mom
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To: BplusK
The full article by Jon Dougherty is centered on Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas)'s reaction against this Iraq Resolution.

Though I have a lot of respect Paul, libertarians are usually out of touch with reality, particularly as it deals with the military. Paul is of the same political bent as Harry Browne, who said the U.S. essentially deserved the September 11 attacks because of our foreign policy. Libertarians are merely conservatives who have same lack of grasp of reality as socialists.

3 posted on 12/11/2001 8:32:17 AM PST by Heisenburger
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To: BplusK
"on Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas)'s reaction against this Iraq Resolution."

Let me ask what is going on here?? Why is Paul objecting? (I'm not that familiar with Paul-heard about him of course, but what's going on??)

4 posted on 12/11/2001 8:34:29 AM PST by ChaseR
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To: Heisenburger
Your #3 answers my query. Thanks.
5 posted on 12/11/2001 8:35:48 AM PST by ChaseR
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To: Reagan's_Mom
I'm sure Hitlery will vote against it.
6 posted on 12/11/2001 8:36:22 AM PST by kachina
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To: BplusK
This is a huge "SO WHAT?"

So what if we say that Iraq has committed an act of agression against the United States? It is not news.

Where is the "penalty" for such activity? What does the House propose we do about it? No words in this resolution.

But I'm not surprised. It's the same crowd that couldn't bring themselves to formally declare war after September 11.

7 posted on 12/11/2001 8:39:34 AM PST by Chairman_December_19th_Society
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To: BplusK
I see where the US will now station some 5000 troops on the island of Tinian. Is this a part of a yet to be announced build up to take on Saddam?
8 posted on 12/11/2001 8:39:55 AM PST by Joee
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To: kachina
I bet she will,too.
9 posted on 12/11/2001 8:41:32 AM PST by cardinal4
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To: Heisenburger
Libertarians are merely conservatives who have same lack of grasp of reality as socialists.

Paul will no doubt trot out his proposal to issue "Letters of Marque and Reprisal" as he did when the war on Afghanistan was joined.

And, as with the previous proposal, Paul's "let's arm mercenaries" will go precisely nowhere.

All he needs now is a powdered wig, some black buckle shoes, and some short pants, and he can play "Founder."

10 posted on 12/11/2001 8:46:02 AM PST by sinkspur
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Where is the "penalty" for such activity? What does the House propose we do about it? No words in this resolution. It states in #4 that if Iraq fails to comply with #1-3 then it would be considered an act of agression against The USA and it's allies. When I was reading that I clearly understood that this meant we have the right to be agressive back. Did anyone else feel that?
11 posted on 12/11/2001 8:47:13 AM PST by Mixer
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Where is the "penalty" for such activity? What does the House propose we do about it? No words in this resolution. It states in #4 that if Iraq fails to comply with #1-3 then it would be considered an act of agression against The USA and it's allies. When I was reading that I clearly understood that this meant we have the right to be agressive back. Did anyone else feel that?

No. I don't. Maybe that's because I know that if Congress meant that they would say that - or at least something along the lines of "the President is authorized...". No such language. In fact, absent such language, the President is authorized to do nothing.

This is pathetic.

12 posted on 12/11/2001 8:49:41 AM PST by Chairman_December_19th_Society
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To: Heisenburger
The Sierra Times by Henry Lamb
9-10-01

"Wrong Reason To Raid Saddam

Wrong reason to raid Saddam By Henry Lamb 12.10.01

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A resolution has been introduced in Congress to declare that Iraq has committed "an act of aggression against the United States..." by refusing to comply with U.N. Resolution 687. This proposed resolution is a twisted, and extremely dangerous, excuse to bomb Baghdad back to the stone age.

Saddam is a bad guy. If there exists credible evidence that he played any role in the September 11 attack on America, the President already has Congressional authority to get him. This resolution (HJRES 75), introduced by Lindsey Graham (R-SC), is absolutely the wrong way to go about unseating Saddam.

Iraq's refusal to comply with U.N. Resolution 687 is not an "act of aggression against the United States;" flying commercial jetliners into the World Trade Center is. If Saddam can be shown to have participated - even a little - bomb his butt into oblivion.

We cannot, however, hide behind a U.N. Resolution to do now, what another U.N. Resolution prevented us from doing when our forces were in Iraq the last time.

The United States military has but one purpose: to defend the United States of America. Its purpose is not to enforce U.N. Resolutions, nor to use U.N. Resolutions as an excuse to engage in warfare for any purpose other than the defense of our nation.

We certainly should have learned that lesson by now.

The United States needs no U.N. Resolution to activate our military; it needs an order from our Commander in Chief, supported by a Congressional Declaration - nothing more. When the United States, or its allies are attacked, we must respond. But we should never again respond with our military in order to comply with a U.N. Resolution.

Lindsey's Resolution would continue to submerge the U.S. military into the U.N.'s military aspirations. If there is ever to be a U.N. standing army, it should not include a single American.

President Bush has responded to the terrorists' attack brilliantly, so far. He has announced America's resolve, found friends to help fight the foe, and left the U.N. to do what it does so well - talk.

Lindsey would have us now seek refuge behind a U.N. Resolution. No! It would say to the world that we need a U.N. Resolution to authorize our action.

Saddam's refusal to allow U.N. inspectors, which is a violation of U.N. Resolution 687, is an extremely thin excuse for invading a sovereign nation by any military force, and no excuse at all for U.S. military action.

An invasion of Iraq by the United States would be an act of aggression, and condemned by the world, unless the United States had incontrovertible evidence that Iraq "planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks of September 11...," as stipulated in the Joint Resolution which authorizes the President to wage the war on terrorism.

Until such evidence is in hand, or until Saddam commits some other act of aggression against the United States, we need to concentrate on the task at hand: destroying the likes of al Qeada, and shoring up our domestic defenses.

Lindsey's Resolution was introduced on December 4. It was fast-tracked, and is scheduled to be considered by the House International Relations Committee, Tuesday, December 11. Since the Committee Chair, Henry Hyde (R-IL) is a co-sponsor of the proposal, the measure is expected to sail through committee with little opposition.

Ron Paul (R-TX) is a member of the Committee. He will object, and speak in opposition to the Resolution. Ron Paul is one of the few members in Congress who recognizes the dangers of getting into bed with the United Nations.

The anti-Saddam sentiment, coupled with the anti-terrorist sentiment, could easily cloud considered reasoning by Congressmen who are eager to wind up the session and head home for the holidays.

This little two-page Resolution, if enacted in haste, could trigger a chain of events and pave the way to entanglements with the United Nations that reach far beyond Baghdad. As appealing as the idea of ridding the world of Saddam might be, it is not worth surrendering an ounce of our sovereignty, which we would do if we hid behind a U.N. Resolution to justify our military actions.

Henry Lamb is the executive vice president of the Environmental Conservation Organization (ECO), and chairman of Sovereignty International.

13 posted on 12/11/2001 8:55:41 AM PST by madfly
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Do the men and women of the United States' military serve their fellow American citizens or do they serve the faceless bureaucrats of the United Nations? This
question will be answered on Tuesday (12/11) at 4:00 p.m. by the U.S. House Committee on International Relations in 2172 Rayburn House Office Building.

The committee will markup (take action) on H.J. Res. 75. The fourth resolve clause of H.J. Res. 75 states: "the refusal by Iraq to admit United Nations weapons inspectors into any facility covered by the provisions of Security Council Resolution 687 should be considered an act of aggression against the United States and its allies."

Will the men and women of the U.S. military become the standing army of the United Nations? Will U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan become our military's new commander-in-chief? We say NO!

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14 posted on 12/11/2001 9:02:34 AM PST by madfly
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BUMP
15 posted on 12/11/2001 9:03:27 AM PST by madfly
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To: BplusK
I have a better idea.

We ought to give the Iraqis a nuclear device, that will detonate if it is reverse-engineered. It should be housed in a ballistic missile which can be controlled by the Iraqis via a Apple IIe.

Then when Saddam launches it toward the United States or its allies, we can declare war.

(Of course, the nuclear detonation codes would remain with GWB, and the nuke would not be armed.)

16 posted on 12/11/2001 9:04:52 AM PST by Frohickey
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To: Reagan's_Mom
Well we know Loserman will vote for it.
17 posted on 12/11/2001 9:25:14 AM PST by finnman69
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To: ChaseR
Just a guess, but he might be thinking of George Washington's warning about 'foreign entanglements', the source of authority for us to walk-in and compliance of another sovereign nation, or maybe the 'initiation of force' thing. (I couldn't find his actual reasoning in my first search.)
18 posted on 12/11/2001 9:26:07 AM PST by Teacher317
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19 posted on 12/11/2001 9:29:52 AM PST by madfly
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20 posted on 12/11/2001 9:30:35 AM PST by madfly
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