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Father files grievance over Pledge of Allegiance
Washington Times ^ | 12/12/2001 | Vaishali Honawar

Posted on 12/12/2001 4:02:10 AM PST by chambley1

A Loudoun County father has filed a civil rights grievance to stop Virginia school students from reciting the Pledge of Allegiance because he says the words exclude foreign nationals and offend some religions.

Edward Myers, an American citizen and a software engineer from Sterling, has petitioned the U.S. Department of Justice to replace the pledge with patriotic songs and sayings that are neutral to religion and citizenship and therefore more inclusive than the pledge itself.

Mr. Myers first raised objections to the pledge when his son entered school last year. He also founded a group called Freedom Friday that encourages students in public schools to take a holiday from the pledge every Friday.

He said he filed the grievance because people had started rallying around the pledge after the September 11 terrorist attacks.

"The pledge is being sold as a uniform activity, but the problem is it is not inclusive of those who are foreign nationals. Certain religious groups also oppose it because it pledges allegiance to something other than their god," he said.

Instead of the pledge, Mr. Myers is requesting that songs such as "America the Beautiful" or the national anthem, and quotes from documents such as the Constitution, the Virginia Bill of Rights and the Gettysburg Address should be used by schools during the time set aside for the pledge.

"While I am not thrilled about the national anthem as an option, it would be better than the pledge because there is a difference between respecting another country and bowing in allegiance to it," he said.

Earlier this year, Virginia passed a law requiring all public schools to lead the recitation of the pledge. Students have the option to remain silent.

Mr. Myers said there are several children who do not say the pledge at school. "But they would like to participate. We need a patriotic expression with a broader base about what it means to be an American," he said. Students who still wanted to say the pledge could do so silently during the mandated moment of silence, he said.

After the September 11 attacks, schools around the Washington region reported that several students, who did not usually participate in reciting the pledge, were beginning to say it. On Oct. 12, thousands of students around the country joined Secretary of Education Rod Paige in reciting the pledge as a show of solidarity after the terrorist attacks.

Mr. Myers, whose Philippines-born wife is a naturalized U.S. citizen, has a second-grader at Loudoun's Sugarland Elementary School. He said he did not know whether his son, Jordan, recites the pledge at school.

In past rulings, the Supreme Court has refused to bar recitation of the pledge in schools but has held that students cannot be compelled to recite it.

While Mr. Myers' campaign is still a one-man drive, he said he is aware that several foreigners are not comfortable saying the pledge. He said Northern Virginia needs to be particularly sensitive to this issue because a number of foreign nationals live in the area.

Mr. Myers put the issue before the School Board last month, but it was met with disapproval both from the board and audience members. One audience member even asked him to leave the country, he said.

Board member John A. Andrews yesterday said he did not see what the "brouhaha is about."

"What will it be next? That we are not supposed to sing 'God Bless America'? I don't know where something like that ends," he said.

He said he had "a difficulty with [barring the Pledge of Allegiance], especially after September 11."

Mr. Myers has sent copies of his civil rights grievance to Virginia schools Superintendent Jo Lynne DeMary and Loudoun County Superintendent Edgar B. Hatrick.

Virginia schools spokesman Charles Pyle said the Department of Education had in the past issued guidelines to school districts summarizing the law on the pledge. Before the law was put into place, he said, it was up to each school district to decide whether or not to recite the pledge.

Even before the law came into effect, he said, "the department did nothing to discourage the practice of reciting the Pledge of Allegiance."


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1 posted on 12/12/2001 4:02:10 AM PST by chambley1
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To: chambley1
This sounds like one software engineer who's got too much time on his hands.
2 posted on 12/12/2001 4:09:05 AM PST by The Duke
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To: chambley1
One audience member even asked him to leave the country, he said.

Seconded. All in agreement vote 'AYE'.

3 posted on 12/12/2001 4:15:32 AM PST by brityank
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To: chambley1; The Duke
Since the Pledge of Allegiance was composed by a Socialist, for the express purpose of indoctrinating children in the anti-Constitutional view that the Union is a "nation" and that is "indivisible," Freepers ought to be working to stamp out the Pledge. Instead, it seems to be some kind of fetish.
4 posted on 12/12/2001 4:18:22 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: chambley1
We don't need foreign nationals in our schools. If they are offended they have an option. They can go home.
5 posted on 12/12/2001 4:18:55 AM PST by JD86
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To: chambley1
Great. Just what we need in America. Another panty-wearing, bed-wetting, girley man standing up for his imaginary friends.
6 posted on 12/12/2001 4:21:36 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: Arthur McGowan
Geez, did you get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning, or what????
7 posted on 12/12/2001 4:23:32 AM PST by Betteboop
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To: Arthur McGowan
I pledged my allegiance to this nation a long time ago Arthur. I take that very seriously.
8 posted on 12/12/2001 4:24:24 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: chambley1
I think Jordan's being prepped to follow his own spiritual journey, like Jihad Johnny Walker.
9 posted on 12/12/2001 4:26:22 AM PST by kezekiel
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To: Arthur McGowan
Some people (read YOU) make it hard to not lash out with foul language.
10 posted on 12/12/2001 4:27:33 AM PST by esoteric
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To: Arthur McGowan
Arthur has a point that bears discussing, I think. For instance, does anyone value Federal sovereignty over state sovereignty, and why?
11 posted on 12/12/2001 4:27:45 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: chambley1
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
And to the Republic for which it stands
One Nation, under God, indivisable
With liberty and justice for all

Anyone that finds that racist or offensive is a stinking anti-American communist.

12 posted on 12/12/2001 4:28:00 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: The Duke
This is the daddy of the next Jihaad johhny.
13 posted on 12/12/2001 4:29:03 AM PST by stumpy
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To: stumpy
This guy was on the local radio show, WMAL, during 6:00 a.m. slot, sounded like an oh, so typical D.C. area "victim".
14 posted on 12/12/2001 4:31:45 AM PST by dakine
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To: chambley1
He said Northern Virginia needs to be particularly sensitive to this issue because a number of foreign nationals live in the area.

Does this guy see where being "sensitive to others" has gotten us? 3,000+ dead, financial shock waves, the Pentagon partially destroyed, and Ground Zero??? I am so tired of being "sensitive" so others can sh*t on us, all the time telling us how much we deserve it. This guy needs an attitude adjustment.

15 posted on 12/12/2001 4:40:20 AM PST by ncpastor
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To: brityank
AYE! He should move to the Philippines.
16 posted on 12/12/2001 4:40:55 AM PST by Razz Barry
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To: chambley1
"the problem is it is not inclusive of those who are foreign nationals. Certain religious groups also oppose it because it pledges allegiance to something other than their god,"

Frankly we don't care too much whether foreign nationals like it or not. This is the AMERICAN Pledge Of Allegiance, not the "Waffling And Indecisive Potential Immigrant Pledge Of Inconclusiveness." If immigrants and "foreign nationals" don't want to pledge allegiance to America, they should be stripped of their green cards and sent home. Permanant residence is presumed to be a prelude to U.S. citizenship (permanent residence is granted by an "immigrant visa").

Also it is mysterious indeed how the single statement "one nation under God" would be non-inclusive of any religion at all, save Wiccanism or some other Pagan offshoot. Perhaps Meyers is a Wiccan?

17 posted on 12/12/2001 4:44:31 AM PST by angkor
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To: chambley1
he said he is aware that several foreigners are not comfortable saying the pledge. He said Northern Virginia needs to be particularly sensitive to this issue because a number of foreign nationals live in the area.

OMG - who cares? This guy is unlikely to drum up a lot of sympathy for the poor foreign nationals.

IMHO, their role during the pledge time is to stand respectfully in honor of the country that harbors them in liberty and freedom. They do not need to actually recite the pledge if they do not feel so moved. This guy needs to find a worthy cause to exert his activist tendencies on. In other words, get a life!

18 posted on 12/12/2001 4:45:46 AM PST by PLK
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To: chambley1
Maybe they can do Hillary's version:

"I pledge allegiance to the America that could be...."

19 posted on 12/12/2001 4:50:23 AM PST by eddie willers
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