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End Of Recession On Radar
Inland Valley Daily Bulletin | December 14, 2001 | Martin Crutsinger, AP

Posted on 12/15/2001 3:45:41 PM PST by Lady In Blue

Fewer Layoffs Seen as Analysists Forecast Late-Spring Recovery

WASHINGTON-Retail sales plunged by a record 3.7 percent last month as the holiday shopping season was getting under way. But more recent information looks brighter for the economy,suggesting the huge wave of job layoffs is abating.

Noting the new government reports Thursday,analysts said they still believe the current recession,the country's first in a decade, will be a mild one that will be over by late spring.

The Commerce Department report on retail sales showed the big decline in November following an even larger increase of 6.4 percent in October.Both figures were records under the government's curent tracking system,which goes back to 1992.

Both months were whipsawed by auto sales,which soared in October as dealers offered zero-rate financing deals to lure shoppers back into showrooms after the Sept.11 terrorist attacks,only to retreat in November.

In addition to the big swing in auto sales,retail activity in November was also depressed by falling gasoline prices,which pushed sales at service station down.

Without those special factors,retail sales would have posted a 0.1 increase in November.

Analysts said this showed that the consumer sector,which accounts for two-thirds of total economic activity,was not collapsing despite all the bad news this fall--from the terrorist attacks to the layoffs and confirmation that the country is in a recession.

"With the economy in the doldrums and unemployment rising,consumers are being smart.They haven't stopped shopping,they've only stopped buying everything in sight," said Oscar Gonzales,economist at John Hancock in Boston.

The government said new claims for unemployment benefits fell by 88,000 for the first week in December.the biggest decline in nine years,and a hopeful sign,analysts said,that the country may have seen the worst of the layoffs.

Last week's drop pushed the level for new layoffs down to 394,000,significantly below the peak of 505,750 hit in mid-October.

Wall Street was not cheered by the glimmers of an economic rebound,focusing instead on new profit warnings at high-tech companies.The Dow Jones industrial average lost 128.36 points or 1.3 percent,to close at 9,766.45.

A Third report Thursday showed that prices at the wholesale level,led by another big decline in energy costs,fell for a second straight month. The Labor Department said its Producer Price Index dropped by 0.6 percent in November following a 1.6 percent decline in October.

The Federal Reserve cut interest rates for an 11th time on Tuesday,pushing a key rate to its lowest level in 40 years.


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FYI.
1 posted on 12/15/2001 3:45:41 PM PST by Lady In Blue
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To: Lady In Blue
Thanks for posting this !!
2 posted on 12/15/2001 3:48:57 PM PST by blackie
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To: Lady In Blue
So I might get a job in the next couple weeks, so that I'm not homeless next month?
3 posted on 12/15/2001 3:52:36 PM PST by JoeSchem
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To: Lady In Blue
I beg to differ with the conclusion of this article. I'm very concerned about the economy, and IMHO this recession is going to go on for about another 14 to 16 months before it gets better. Again, just my opinion, but I've been hearing "the recovery is six months out" for the last year and a half, and the refrain is getting a little tired.
4 posted on 12/15/2001 4:11:57 PM PST by Billy_bob_bob
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To: Billy_bob_bob
What's the basis for your opinion? Are you an economist?
5 posted on 12/15/2001 4:15:35 PM PST by the_doc
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To: Lady In Blue
First, economics are not my strong point. (I'm basically here as one of the resident gun/militia nuts.)

But if the Christmas shopping season is any kind of indicator of the economy's health, people in my area are saying "What recession?" I went to the mall with my daughter today to do some shopping for my wife. I normally tolerate the mall, but I had NEVER seen a mob that big before! We left as soon as we could climb over all of the bodies and ram our way out of the parking lot.

If the post-Christmas sales reports are not good, I will question their accuracy.

6 posted on 12/15/2001 4:20:13 PM PST by pocat
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To: blackie
You're welcome,blackie.I was glad to read it myself.I wanted to put it in yesterday but I've been kind of busy the few days.I don't think we'll need that stimulus package after all!
7 posted on 12/15/2001 4:29:57 PM PST by Lady In Blue
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To: pocat
But if the Christmas shopping season is any kind of indicator of the economy's health, people in my area are saying "What recession?" I went to the mall with my daughter today to do some shopping for my wife. I normally tolerate the mall, but I had NEVER seen a mob that big before! We left as soon as we could climb over all of the bodies and ram our way out of the parking lot.

hehehe!Thanks for the best laugh I've had all day! I bet that's the case in a lot of malls throughout the U.S.People were holding on to those rebate checks until now! I think,and it's just a guess,that after Christmas sales will be fantastic!

8 posted on 12/15/2001 4:32:53 PM PST by Lady In Blue
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To: Billy_bob_bob
I don't agree.I think the economy will take off in January.Don't forget that starting in January,everybody's and including corporations's tax rates will go down.
9 posted on 12/15/2001 4:34:36 PM PST by Lady In Blue
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To: Billy_bob_bob
Again, just my opinion, but I've been hearing "the recovery is six months out" for the last year and a half, and the refrain is getting a little tired.

We've only been in recession since March of this year.

There's been no need for a "recovery" for the last year and a half unless you work in a dot.com business.

10 posted on 12/15/2001 4:38:37 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Lady In Blue
Just around the corner
There's a rainbow in the sky
So let's have another cup of coffee
And let's have another piece of pie!

Mr. Herbert Hoover
Says now's the time to BUY,
So let's have another cup of coffee . . .

11 posted on 12/15/2001 4:41:34 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Lady In Blue
We bought a new car in October. A Ford Explorer 2001 model. The dealer was a smaller dealer, one of the only dealers in the area to have any 2001's left. He desperately wanted to move them out. We went to 5 dealers. We got the 2001 for $6000 under sticker! We got a near top of the line 2001 model for the price all the other dealers wanted for their 2002 base model.
12 posted on 12/15/2001 4:44:16 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: the_doc
No, I'm not an economist, but I have been an active investor for several years now. My biggest concerns are the fact that average P/E ratios are very high, and that the quality of the numbers being reported is questionable. The Enron implosion shows that there are some rather curious things going on in the world of "high finance", and I'm tired of these "pro forma" earnings statements that are made by some of these companies. So, my overall view of the market is negative at this point. I would like to see P/E ratios drop to a more realistic average, and I would like to the the issue of "pro forma" earnings to be addressed before I consider investing in the market again.
13 posted on 12/15/2001 4:54:14 PM PST by Billy_bob_bob
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To: pocat
I took my 10 year old niece and 16 year old daughter shopping today. It was huge mistake! LOL! The mall was packed. We waited in long lines to check out. Thankfully, everyone was in a good mood and except for the long lines, it was not an unpleasant experience. The restaurants in my town were packed today too. We went to three places and settled on O'Charley's because they only had a 20 minute wait. I don't know how our experience relates to the economy but I do know that people were spending money like crazy today! (Except me, I was very conservative and bought only what was on my list and I used cash not credit cards! Hubby will be thrilled!)
14 posted on 12/15/2001 4:56:54 PM PST by starbaby
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To: Lady In Blue
The economic cycle is relentless. Upturn follows recession everytime, especially as long as the population is growing. The boom cycle will be coming soon. Buy your stocks now while they are cheaper.
16 posted on 12/15/2001 4:59:12 PM PST by imperator2
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To: Lady In Blue
Curbside drop-off and pickup of passengers by private vehicles resumed
this morning (Sat. 12-15-01) at 5AM at Los Angeles International Airport (LAX).

At least locally, this is a prime indicator that Osama has lost.
And we're coming back!!!
17 posted on 12/15/2001 4:59:54 PM PST by VOA
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To: monkeyshine
Wow, that's great monkeyshine! You really lucked out.I bought a pre-owned(USED)car yesterday from Enterprise Car Rentals.I'm very happy with it.Maybe someday,I'll be able to buy a new car! But right now,I'm so thankful for it.I felt I got a good deal too.
18 posted on 12/15/2001 5:04:02 PM PST by Lady In Blue
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To: imperator2
That's the spirit! That's the kind of talk I like to hear! There's too much naysaying going on in some quarters.
19 posted on 12/15/2001 5:06:38 PM PST by Lady In Blue
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To: Lady In Blue
I went to Walmart today and it was crazy.

There were no carts available and there were so many people there I couldn't move down the isles. Then the lines were long at every register and they had all of them open.

What recession?

20 posted on 12/15/2001 5:07:11 PM PST by america-rules
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