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How do you fight liberalism, or am I just being crazy.
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| Exton
Posted on 12/16/2001, 8:10:52 PM by Exton1
How do you fight liberalism, or am I just being crazy.
After several years of reading about how creeping liberalism has ruined our culture with lies, I decided to fight back. Some of the things I did were as follows:
- Copy news article from Free Republic, cleaned them up and fax them to government representatives. (City council on up to the US Congress)
- Knowing that the volume of material could be overwhelming. I concentrated on Gun Articles, and Faxed them to anyone who was anti-gun. This included non-profit groups who gave money to anti-gun groups. In general if I read an article about someone or some group that was anti-gun, I would search for their fax number on the Web and start Faxing them. By programming my computer I could send several hundred faxes a night. After a few months of high phone bills, I concentrated on local groups and/or extreme gun hate groups.
- After about two years two non-profit groups had a lawyer send me a letter, demanding I stop. I checked with another lawyer and found that basically I was within my First Amendment rights. So instead of stopping I cut back to just a few faxes a month.
- The letter from the lawyer actually helped because I knew that someone was reading the faxes. This made be realized that like water dripping on a rock, it takes many faxes, letters, and phone calls before liberal will respond. From this and other research I calculate that it takes 1,000 forms of contact (letters, phone calls, faxes and emails – I don’t like emails because they are too easy to dismiss) to get the attention of liberal to the point that they will react. This means that it would just take 500 Freepers who could do at least two contact each to change laws and policies in anyone individual politician.
- At least once a week I call, the White House, Republican headquarters, and a state senator. Occasionally, if a news story grabs my attention I will either call or write the writer and chastise them for their liberal slant. Sometimes I will contact the subject of the article. For instance I called the director of the Asian American Legal Defense and Education Fund. Their the group that got a $30,000 grant from the US Government, then used the money to sue the US Government. I told the director how disgusting it was that they did this. Of course the director said that she was against racial profiling in any form. Great I said your against affirmative action because it racially profiles and discriminates against white people. Of course this was the one exception. Another question she refused to answer was if illegal immigrants should be deported. She said that “if they were not contributing to society.” In other words No but don’t quote me.
- The most responsive are companies that have obnoxious ads. I have called Sears, Circuit City, and Mercedes Benz and complained about adds that portray white men as stupid or childish. I tell them that it is easy to determine if their ads are wrong. If you replace the subject with a women or a minority group, and they would not complain then the add is OK. Usually a few days later the ad is pulled.
The point I am trying to make is that if you want to change something, stop complaining here and start complaining to those responsible. You have little to loose but you may make a change in the liberal mind set.
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12/16/2001, 8:10:52 PM
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Exton1
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To: semper_libertas
You can only "fight" it by making it your political approach more profitable for the average citizen. I agree with you to a point. With the undecided and ignorant amongst us your approach is right on.
For the unabashed leftists however, they must be beaten and slapped down and humiliated, just like any other vicious opponant.
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12/16/2001, 8:21:46 PM
by
AAABEST
To: Exton1
It's not so much what you're doing, but that you are doing something. Anything. I commend you for that.
I think your chances of changing the minds of die-hard liberals is somewhere between slim and none. I would try and concentrate on persuading the masses in the middle who tend to sway easily. That usually means the media must be involved and the difficult part is dealing with their bias so you can even be heard. Sometimes if you're lucky, you get some honest local media types who really will listen to you even though they themselves are liberal. Always be polite.
That's about the sum total of my advice. Just keep trying.
To: Exton1
When argueing with a liberal, you have to use their own language agenst them. When they bitch about prayer in school or something accuse them of being INTOLERANT or BIGITED. When they start screaming and ranting and raveing, ask them why they are so full of HATE. The trick is to use their language agenst them before they have a chance to use it agenst you. Use the words I mentioned above alot along with RACIST and .......APHOBE is always good too. The next thing you know they will be stammering and studdering and you will be on the offensive.
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12/16/2001, 8:45:40 PM
by
Husker24
To: semper_libertas
We have to come up with something better than that!
As it is now, every large city is dominated by a lock-step Teacher's Union in league with the Dimocratic Machine and everyday they are not just NOT educating our children, they are exponentially making them dumber!!
That is their power, idiots cannot comprehend freedom, they are willing to settle for the "cradle-to-grave" enticements of the Socialist Dim's!!!
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12/16/2001, 8:52:56 PM
by
Nitro
To: Exton1
Bravo!
I LOVE it. Why can't a hundred Freepers do the same? It's brilliant in its simplicity. Grassroots, baby!
To: jla
Bump! *S*
To: Husker24
I agree, the only way to "beat" a liberal is to use what they are saying against them. Also, quit calling them liberals -- they are the extreme left. For the extreme left, politics is a permanent war. If you think you can win an argument or a difference of opinion with the left based just on superior principles, you are naive. I will never forget the ad that ran over and over by the NAACP that had the daughter of a lynching victim who said she felt that GWB had killed her father a second time - why because he did not support her version of "hate crimes" legislation.
Today, Sunday, Senator Liberman said that the GWB tax cuts would increase interest rates. That is complete BS. They lie and lie and lie. The smear us as racists or worse as the left understands that politics is a war and not a debate of logic or principles but a war based on emotion and fear. You need to use the same against the left.
To: semper_libertas
You do NOT fight liberalism with ideology. Yes you do ...
"A political ideology is a set of principles aimed at establishing or maintaining a certain social system; it is a program of long-range action, with the principles serving to unify and integrate particular steps into a consistent course. It is only by means of principles that men can project the future and choose their actions accordingly." - Ayn Rand - "The Wreckage of the consensus"
Liberalism, as an ideology, must be fought by another ideology; and that replacement ideology -- somewhat present within FreeRepublic.com -- should be one with GOOD principles.
To: Exton1
I've often tried to fight liberalism, but they just won't fight.
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12/16/2001, 9:13:27 PM
by
Leisler
To: AAABEST
Technical question. Say that I'm wearing my 20year old, white Gucci loafers( gold buckle). Do I kick, or no kick? I really like the shoes and I wouldn't want any kind of staining spew to get on them.
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12/16/2001, 9:16:24 PM
by
Leisler
To: Leisler
Just homeschool your kids and in 8-10 years, you will see a difference. A conservative that sends his kids to gubmint schools will loose because they have them 8 hrs. vs. maybe a 10 minute conversation between tv shows for parents. Besides, 3 hrs of the 8 the school has, is showing your kids how backward and idiotic you are. When the homeschooled kids get into the world, they will vote because you taught them too, and they will vote correctly. Eventually the world will change because of it.
To: Exton1
Vote for real conservatives, not RINO's
To: Exton1
Laugh at them. They really, really hate that.
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