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FBI wants access to worm's pilfered data
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Posted on 12/17/2001 6:32:41 AM PST by gfactor

A ROTTEN.COM EXCLUSIVE

The FBI is asking for access to a massive database that contains the private communications and passwords of the victims of the Badtrans Internet worm. Badtrans spreads through security flaws in Microsoft mail software and transmits everything the victim types. Since November 24, Badtrans has violated the privacy of millions of Internet users, and now the FBI wants to take part in the spying.

Victims of Badtrans are infected when they receive an email containing the worm in an attachment and either run the program by clicking on it, or use an email reader like Microsoft Outlook which may automatically run it without user intervention. Once executed, the worm replicates by sending copies of itself to all other email addresses found on the host's machine, and installs a keystroke-logger capable of stealing passwords including those used for telnet, email, ftp, and the web. Also captured is anything else the user may be typing, including personal documents or private emails.

Coincidentally, just four days before the breakout of Badtrans it was revealed that the FBI was developing their own keystroke-logging virus, called Magic Lantern. Made to complement the Carnivore spy system, Magic Lantern would allow them to obtain target's passwords as they type them. This is a significant improvement over Carnivore, which can only see data after it has been transmitted over the Internet, at which point the passwords may have been encrypted.

After Badtrans pilfers keystrokes the data is sent back to one of twenty-two email addresses (this is according to the FBI-- leading anti-virus vendors have only reported seventeen email addresses). Among these are free email addresses at Excite, Yahoo, and IJustGotFired.com. IJustGotFired is a free service of MonkeyBrains, a San Francisco based independent Internet Service Provider.

In particular, suck_my_prick@ijustgotfired.com began receiving emails at 3:23 PM on November 24. Triggering software automatically disabled the account after it exceeded quotas, and began saving messages as they arrived. The following day, MonkeyBrains' mail server was sluggish. Upon examination of the mail server's logs, it quickly became apparent that 100 emails per minute to the "suck_my_prick" alias were the source of the problem. The mails delivered the logged keystrokes from over 100,000 compromised computers in the first day alone.

Last week the FBI contacted the owner of MonkeyBrains, Rudy Rucker, Jr., and requested a cloned copy of the password database and keylogged data. The database includes only information stolen from the victims of the virus, not information about the perpetrator. The FBI wants indiscriminant access to the illegally extracted passwords and keystrokes of over two million people without so much as a warrant. Even with a warrant they would have to specify exactly what information they are after, on whom, and what they expect to find. Instead, they want it all and for no justifiable reason.

One of the most basic tenets of an authoritarian state is one that claims rights for itself that it denies its citizens. Surveillance is perhaps one of the most glaring examples of this in our society. Accordingly, rather than hand over the entire database to the FBI, MonkeyBrains has decided to open the database to the public. Now everyone (including the FBI) will be able query which accounts have been compromised and search for their hostnames. Password and keylogged data will not be made available, for obvious legal reasons.

The implications of complying with the FBI's request, absent any legal authority, are staggering. This is information that no one, not even the FBI, could legally gather themselves. The fact that they seek to take advantage of this worm and benefit from its illicit spoils, demonstrates the FBI's complete and utter contempt for constitutionally mandated due process and protection from unreasonable search and seizure. It defies reason that the FBI expects the American people to trust them to only look at certain permissible nuggets of data and ignore the rest of what they collect. One need only imagine what J. Edgar Hoover would do with today's expansive surveillance system, coupled with the new powers granted by the Patriot Act, to appreciate the Orwellian nightmare that the United States is becoming. The last thing the FBI should have is a spying Internet worm, and it looks like they've found one. Welcome to the Magic Lantern.


The database is available at http://badtrans.monkeybrains.net

[Editor's note: Rudy Rucker, Jr. contributed to this story, he was also visited by the Secret Service last summer regarding his fan site of President Bush's daughters at TheFirstTwins.com.]


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1 posted on 12/17/2001 6:32:41 AM PST by gfactor
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2 posted on 12/17/2001 6:37:41 AM PST by Rain-maker
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Yikes.

I would think those worthless commies at the ACLU would at least turn out to block this blatant illegality by the FBI.

The FBI is finally living up to all the suspicions the Left ever had of them. They act like the secret police at every opportunity these days. Who is going to rein them in if not the courts? Obviously, Congress and the administration have no regard for a plain reading of the Constitution.
3 posted on 12/17/2001 6:44:10 AM PST by George W. Bush
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I just cross-posted this to Slashdot, the primary geek board. Interested readers may want to check over there for more info later today. They should have it posted very quickly.

Isn't there a bumplist for computer tech issues here at FR? I can't find it right now.
4 posted on 12/17/2001 6:55:17 AM PST by George W. Bush
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Are we seriously treating Rotten.com as a legit new source? A place that's usually known for snuff photos?

Please.

Go look for your black helicopters somewhere else.
5 posted on 12/17/2001 6:56:58 AM PST by shadowman99
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6 posted on 12/17/2001 7:01:18 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush
As I've said before, I don't think there's any way the FBI will be able to propagate a key-stroke worm. Some hackers are bound to figure out what they are doing. The result will be that some of them will start using the worm themselves, and others will post solutions to it. The major anti-virus firms are said to have promised the FBI that they would cooperate with them and not try to block their worm; but once the thing gets loose and hackers start using it to steal people's passwords and credit card data, they will either have to come up with a way to deal with it or they will lose all their customers. For these reasons the whole scheme is inherently unworkable.
7 posted on 12/17/2001 7:02:38 AM PST by Cicero
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To: George W. Bush
"Who is going to rein them in if not the courts?"

I hope that's a rhetorical question.

8 posted on 12/17/2001 7:08:10 AM PST by wcbtinman
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To: Cicero
...but once the thing gets loose and hackers start using it to steal people's passwords and credit card data, they will either have to come up with a way to deal with it or they will lose all their customers.
I believe there is a solution already available. Digital Angel anyone?
So many ways to secure transactions in a "moneyless society".
"Just wave your hand in front of your "personal home identification scanner" and Presto Chango..."
9 posted on 12/17/2001 7:43:26 AM PST by philman_36
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The motorcycle website that I frequent posted a link to rotten.com to promote helmet wearing. The picture actually turned out to be of a guy who survived an M-80 exploding in his mouth. If it wern't such a disturbing image, it would probably be a good picture to show a child who isn't in the habit of considering consequences.
10 posted on 12/17/2001 8:18:09 AM PST by Nephi
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What kind of brainless moron lights an M-80 in his mouth?
11 posted on 12/17/2001 10:21:40 AM PST by tdadams
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Not brainless, but he is lacking a jaw and most of his face.
12 posted on 12/17/2001 12:16:47 PM PST by shadowman99
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That, and the concept that the FBI might possibly be asking for the database records in order to track down the source of those people who set up and accessed those accounts, in order to try to track down possible suspects?

Nah... the tinfoilers wouldn't bite that.

13 posted on 12/17/2001 2:13:31 PM PST by zandtar
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14 posted on 12/17/2001 2:46:11 PM PST by wewillnotfail
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To: zandtar
Oh yeah, hackers are known to always use their real e-mail address when setting up free accounts for this purpose.

And they'd never think of going through a proxy server when accessing the free account; who cares if one's real IP is hanging out for all to see (and log)?

No, the FBI is obviously looking to use this treasure trove of user data to do some data mining... just to see if anyone is doing anything illegal. Whatever happened to probable cause?

15 posted on 12/17/2001 3:49:19 PM PST by TechJunkYard
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16 posted on 12/17/2001 5:12:17 PM PST by Bush2000
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That, and the concept that the FBI might possibly be asking for the database records in order to track down the source of those people who set up and accessed those accounts

maybe the article has it wrong, but it clearly states that the FBI requested the e-mails themselves -- ie, the data caught by the worm, in addition to information on those accounts (im guessing, ip addresses they were accessed/set up from).

17 posted on 12/17/2001 7:00:02 PM PST by gfactor
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To: Bush2000
I don't get it.
18 posted on 12/17/2001 7:03:51 PM PST by gfactor
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To: TechJunkYard
Oh yeah, hackers are known to always use their real e-mail address when setting up free accounts for this purpose. And they'd never think of going through a proxy server when accessing the free account; who cares if one's real IP is hanging out for all to see (and log)?

Spoken like a true 'expert' who has never traced back something like this. If you think you're actually anonymous on the Internet, you're sadly mistaken. Just depends on how determined the people are who want to find you.

19 posted on 12/18/2001 2:29:32 AM PST by zandtar
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To: gfactor
maybe the article has it wrong, but it clearly states that the FBI requested the e-mails themselves -- ie, the data caught by the worm, in addition to information on those accounts (im guessing, ip addresses they were accessed/set up from).

My guess is that is the reporter's interpretation or spin of the story. If you've ever seen such a subpeona, they generally do not get this specific. More likely it's a "give us any and all records related to this e-mail address or IP address". Which would include any stored e-mail, as well as all network traffic logs and access logs.

20 posted on 12/18/2001 2:31:30 AM PST by zandtar
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