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FLORIDA FIRM FIRST TO SELL ID MICROCHIPS TO BE IMPLANTED UNDER SKIN...
latimes ^ | 19-12-2001 | DAVID STREITFELD

Posted on 12/19/2001 7:22:42 AM PST by sunkist2

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:48 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

By DAVID STREITFELD -- A Florida company is poised to become the first to sell microchips designed to be implanted into human beings, an achievement that opens the door to new systems of medical monitoring and ID screening.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biometrics
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I'll tell you, this kind of thinking is getting under my skin.
1 posted on 12/19/2001 7:22:42 AM PST by sunkist2
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To: sunkist2
when citizens become livestock
2 posted on 12/19/2001 7:28:04 AM PST by Lexington Green
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To: sunkist2
I would imagine a high voltage/milliamp output device would render any microchip useless. Such high tech wizardry always has very low tech countermeasures.
3 posted on 12/19/2001 7:30:49 AM PST by blackdog
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To: sunkist2
Floridians, watch your automatic garage door openers....here come the droids!
4 posted on 12/19/2001 7:34:19 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: blackdog
I would imagine a high voltage/milliamp output device would render any microchip useless.

Creative engineers will find a way around it. They may have already developed a chip that cannot be affected by outside sources - such as, what you described.

5 posted on 12/19/2001 7:37:12 AM PST by sunkist2
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To: sunkist2
The only "chips" I will have inside me had better come loaded with cheese.
6 posted on 12/19/2001 7:41:08 AM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: sunkist2
Wait till the United Nations hears about this - they'll be first in line.....they were recently suggesting the need to "identify" every person on earth.....this fits right into their plans.
7 posted on 12/19/2001 7:46:13 AM PST by goodnesswins
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To: sunkist2
Thieves will have a field day maintaing body parts containing the "chips" long after their victim is dead. Not only that, who will ever miss a victim that keeps on spending?
8 posted on 12/19/2001 7:47:43 AM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: sunkist2
Some military info on this here

PDF File, worth the read through
9 posted on 12/19/2001 7:49:03 AM PST by chance33_98
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To: sunkist2; CheneyChick; vikingchick; WIMom; Victoria Delsoul; susangirl; coteblanche...
Why not just have the UN tattoo our arms?


10 posted on 12/19/2001 7:52:37 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: sunkist2
Any chip that small and that computationally powerful is going to adversely affected by ANY significant energy discharge.
11 posted on 12/19/2001 7:55:43 AM PST by Poohbah
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To: sunkist2
Creative engineers will find a way around it. They may have already developed a chip that cannot be affected by outside sources - such as, what you described.

No doubt these microchips will reassemble after we hack them to bits. Is a hammer considered an "outside source"?

12 posted on 12/19/2001 7:56:06 AM PST by Charles Martel
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To: sunkist2
Perhaps we'll complain that a person has a chip IN their shoulder instead of ON it?
13 posted on 12/19/2001 7:56:19 AM PST by Poohbah
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To: sunkist2
Mark of the beast!
15 posted on 12/19/2001 7:57:14 AM PST by itsinthebag
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To: Poohbah; sabertooth
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16 posted on 12/19/2001 7:57:33 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Sabertooth
Can't track tatoos
19 posted on 12/19/2001 7:59:28 AM PST by Texaggie79
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To: stainlessbanner
Floridians, watch your automatic garage door openers....here come the droids!!

With that in mind...

I would be concerned if I were the Viagra folks.

21 posted on 12/19/2001 8:00:07 AM PST by sayfer bullets
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To: sunkist2
repost of the link: TRY THIS ONE
22 posted on 12/19/2001 8:02:31 AM PST by chance33_98
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To: Texaggie79
Can't track tatoos

You can if it is impossible to buy or sell without one.

(That probably requires the end of cash of course.)

24 posted on 12/19/2001 8:06:17 AM PST by Reply 491
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To: sunkist2
These MAD DOGS want to infect the population with electronic RABIES.

I certainly hope future reporters remind the population it is a legal duty to shoot mad dogs on sight.

25 posted on 12/19/2001 8:09:48 AM PST by FreedomFarmer
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You can if it is impossible to buy or sell without one

Yeah but you can still hide. The mark will not be that archaic.

26 posted on 12/19/2001 8:09:50 AM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Poohbah
Wow! This is certaintly better in every way than the old-fashioned Nazi way of tattooing your camp number on your arm. Just think how much safer from terrorists we'll be< /sarcasm>

I'm sure law enforcement will support it (Unfortunately, not sarcasm)

27 posted on 12/19/2001 8:10:51 AM PST by from occupied ga
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To: Sabertooth
Geeze...my tattoo had damn well better be tastefully done with some good colors. Otherwise, I will truely be PO'ed.
32 posted on 12/19/2001 8:27:54 AM PST by beowolf
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To: cdwright
I was thinking that you left out the millions of sheeple who'd have to go along in order to make that quantum leap. But, gee, we have a lot of those out there, don't we?
33 posted on 12/19/2001 8:28:40 AM PST by bwteim
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To: blackdog
HAVE BEEN CURIOUS,

What kinds of DO IT YOURSELF options might there be to protect one's tower type stand computer etc. from EMP? EMI? PULSES that fry unprotected chips etc??? Maybe it's silly if the whole electrical system is fried but I'd still sort of like to know. . . and consider . . . How much thickness of what . . . iron? . . . . lead? . . . around such machines would work?

34 posted on 12/19/2001 8:32:53 AM PST by Quix
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To: cdwright
Its shares closed unchanged Tuesday at 38 cents on Nasdaq.

It's up 21% on high volume.

35 posted on 12/19/2001 8:36:50 AM PST by Freebird Forever
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To: sunkist2
This is a novel idea, but it will be a very, very, very, longtime before it could even be realized at a level that most here seem to think. The logistics of this happening on a large scale are phenomenal. We can't even get wi-fi, blutooth, cell phones, microwave ovens, etc. to work together properly, much less something with such litte output. By the time anything like that happens, freerepublic will be long forgotten.
36 posted on 12/19/2001 8:39:11 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: sunkist2
Hate to be a spoil sport to the whole "identify everyone" globalist agenda, but no one is implanting anything in me.....ever.
37 posted on 12/19/2001 8:40:47 AM PST by softengine
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To: stuartcr;sabertooth
By the time anything like that happens, freerepublic will be long forgotten.

Minor correction:

By the time anything like that happens, there will be no Free Republic.

38 posted on 12/19/2001 8:41:57 AM PST by bwteim
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To: softengine
Until they make the devices so small you ingest them - knowingly or unknowingly.
39 posted on 12/19/2001 8:43:16 AM PST by bwteim
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To: Sabertooth
Why not just have the UN tattoo our arms?

A tattoo is nowhere near as efficient and it can not transmit data. Besides tattoos might become a declasse fashion statement for the overlords.

I shall be planted before I am implanted and as long as I am going I might as well take some of those insisting on this with me.

Isn't Christmas wonderful? Oh I'm makinn' a list and checkin' it twce.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

40 posted on 12/19/2001 8:55:30 AM PST by harpseal
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To: Quix
To protect from emp you need a "faraday cage" it doesn't have to be thick at all. When I was in grad school we protected delicate equipment with a faraday cage made from copper screen (looked just like fly screen). We made a room inside a larger one with every square inch of floor, walls, ceiling and door covered, and then ran a wire from the cage to the water pipe. We didn't do anything elaborate around the door. There was a small gap where the mesh on the door didn't touch the mesh on the frame when the door closed, but we did run a wire from the door mesh to the rest of the mesh so that it would be at the same electrical potential. It apparently worked because the delicate measurments that were made were accepted for publication (of course the stuff may have worked just fine without the cage too)
41 posted on 12/19/2001 9:04:18 AM PST by from occupied ga
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To: Quix
I do not know for certain but I think an electric stun gun or cattle prod may well induce enough current to fry one of these chips. As to a Faraday cage that would protect just about any circuitry from EMP the thinknes does not matter per se. What matters is the completeness of the covering. If the covering is grounded it is even more efficient. Columbs inverse square law is what actually protects the circuitry as long as it is entirely enclosed. Plugging in to an external power source does of course defeat any such cage.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

42 posted on 12/19/2001 9:04:35 AM PST by harpseal
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To: Sabertooth
Thanks for the flag!

Tattoos are so 20th Century .
Ve must update our methods!

43 posted on 12/19/2001 9:07:02 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: harpseal
All the more reason for that tinfoil hat and suit.
44 posted on 12/19/2001 9:11:11 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: from occupied ga;harpseal
In reference to needing a metal cage to protect you from emp as you "wear your chip", is this the metal cage you are referring to?


45 posted on 12/19/2001 9:12:34 AM PST by bwteim
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To: Quix
Basicaly EMI,RFI,EMP, are very simple phenomenon which are seen as a "black box art" in problem solving but are actually very simple. There are conducted and radiated types of nasties. The most common is conducted. Devices can create a hell when it comes to guidance, low wattage signals. Things like the chemical composition of carbon brushes in an electric motor, the length of electrical cords, the triac switching your waterbed heater on and off, etc... are good examples to conducted emissions. Imagine a glideslope signal on an aircraft carrier of 10 watts. Five miles out, that will be very minimal reception in your F-16. Imagine someone turns on a deck elevator motor which kills the signal when that F-16 is in heavy weather due to emmissions from the motor. That is why a motor for the military costs 100 times the commercial version.

First, an isolation transformer for your house is a must. Next, your grounds must be of equal length, and kept very short.Next, any device you connect to your clean power should be suppressed to MIL-461 regarding conductive and radiated crud. Your PC keyboard, your monitor and other components should be in metal enclosures, or made internally conductive with conductive spray coatings. The hot and neutral must have circuit breakers at the device, not the wall. Regarding towers, reception or transmission equipment should have disconnects in the cables. When you are not using it, the disconnects should be open. Switches alone cannot help you. Most devices are only turned on/off through the hot. It is the lightning strike/EMP that feeds in through the neutral/phone/and antennae that gets your stuff fried. The tower itself if grounded well, should be of no consequence. Ground Rods should be all copper, and as long as 20' in the soil if you are in a sandy area.

46 posted on 12/19/2001 9:16:08 AM PST by blackdog
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LOL - Undoubtedly the cage that the government would like to protect us into.
48 posted on 12/19/2001 9:19:15 AM PST by from occupied ga
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So true, cdwright. Also meant there are already many [sheeple] who will accept these technologies without thinking of ramifications - so it simply becomes a matter of marketing.
49 posted on 12/19/2001 9:22:46 AM PST by bwteim
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To: Sabertooth
Thanks for the heads up!
50 posted on 12/19/2001 9:24:53 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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