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Photo of firemen raising flag at ground zero becomes enduring image of Sept. 11
newsday ^ | December 19, 2001, | WAYNE PARRY

Posted on 12/19/2001 9:48:14 AM PST by classygreeneyedblonde

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:48 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

NEWARK, N.J. -- The photo has appeared on T-shirts, buttons and Christmas ornaments. It hangs at firehouses across the nation. A mural of it was painted on the walls of a Louisiana prison. And copies were left as a calling card in Afghanistan by U.S. commandos.

The photo of three firefighters raising a flag amid the ruins of the World Trade Center has become one of the most powerful images of the disaster.


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I didn't know the flag came from a yacht .I thought it was from one of the towers
1 posted on 12/19/2001 9:48:15 AM PST by classygreeneyedblonde
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
A flag from one of the towers is making it's way from ship to ship and is now in Afghanistan.......

If you look closely at the pre eleventh photos you will see a marina along side the Towers.....boats tied up....

2 posted on 12/19/2001 10:08:04 AM PST by OldFriend
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
Can somebody post the picture, please.
3 posted on 12/19/2001 10:20:04 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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4 posted on 12/19/2001 10:24:04 AM PST by 6323cd
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5 posted on 12/19/2001 10:24:09 AM PST by TexRef
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
McWilliams found the flag on a yacht docked near the trade center and carried it back to the rubble, where he and his co-workers hoisted it.

So they stole someone's flag?

6 posted on 12/19/2001 10:25:16 AM PST by AStack75
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I have no idea...I thought it came from the towers,but that's what he says
7 posted on 12/19/2001 10:31:40 AM PST by classygreeneyedblonde
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To: AStack75
So they stole someone's flag?

I like to think of it as appropriating the flag...and I'd bet the owner of the yacht was very proud they took his flag to fly--and probably gave them 10 more.

8 posted on 12/19/2001 10:41:16 AM PST by Catspaw
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I like to think of it as appropriating the flag...and I'd bet the owner of the yacht was very proud they took his flag to fly--and probably gave them 10 more.

I don't doubt that for a second.

9 posted on 12/19/2001 10:51:35 AM PST by AStack75
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
It recalls this famous photo:

The sequence of flag raising at Iwo Jima can be found here.

10 posted on 12/19/2001 10:59:43 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: AStack75
I don't doubt that for a second.

Knowing yachties--and a whole lot more regular, everyday sailors (just having returned from the Seven Seas Cruising Assn. yearly bash before Thanksgiving), they'd be proud to have the flag fly over the WTC and would be very proud that the FDNY took their flag for this purpose. In fact, our tee shirt from the conference featured a flag--with all proceeds going to a WTC charity. tee shirt

Before we left to go to Florida, I printed out the logo and taped it up to put in the back and side windows of our camper.

11 posted on 12/19/2001 11:03:04 AM PST by Catspaw
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I did forget to add that at least one (and perhaps two) Seven Seas members died in the terrorism on 9/11.
12 posted on 12/19/2001 11:04:26 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: Catspaw
It's good that this is the most memorable photo from the attack. The most memorable one for the OKC bombing was the fire fighter carrying the dead little baby out of the rubble. I can't stand to look at it to this day, it makes me sick. So tragic.

This picture of the flag is full of hope and determination

13 posted on 12/19/2001 11:12:40 AM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: AStack75
That is not a yacht flag........ They are smaller and different
14 posted on 12/19/2001 11:29:46 AM PST by primatreat
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To: 2Jedismom
This picture of the flag is full of hope and determination

It's hope and strength out of destruction and horror.

I hope he wins a Pulitizer for it. The photographer--as well as the FDNY--deserve the recognition.

15 posted on 12/19/2001 11:30:21 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
I thought it was from one of the towers.

Yes, but legends have their use as inspiration. (Washington/Cherry tree) I believe the Iwo Jima picture was restaged for the cameras after the initial raising of the flag. It doesn't make it any less powerful in the eyes of those who go on fighting.

16 posted on 12/19/2001 11:36:39 AM PST by Wm Bach
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
18 posted on 12/19/2001 11:44:20 AM PST by classygreeneyedblonde
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To: Wm Bach
You are right about the impact but wrong about the flag on Iwo.

Joe Rosenthal took the Iwo picture which is of the second flag raising that day. The first flag was too small to be seen from the ships off shore so a larger one was ordered up. Joe went along, as did a USMC moving picture camera operator. They both shot the now famous raising from almost the same angle. After the flag was up the group that brought the flag to the top did pose under the raised flag for a quick shot. There were the six raisers and about eight others. Later that day Joe sent his film off the island to be developed. He did not even see the results himself until weeks later.

When the Stateside press saw the shot they were immediately in awe of it. When Joe was first questioned about his work on Iwo he was asked if the flag shot was staged or posed. Thinking that they meant the group shot he answered yes. That began the controversy. The misconception was almost immediately debunked and with very rare exception, it is universally accepted that the famous, flag-raising shot was not posed or staged.

There is plenty of scholarship that supports this....try Richard Wheeler's "Bloody Battle for Suribachi" as a start.

19 posted on 12/19/2001 11:49:28 AM PST by wtc911
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