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Blair urged to keep US out of Iraq
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 12/31/2001 | Andy McSmith and Philip Smucker

Posted on 12/30/2001 4:28:17 PM PST by Pokey78

EGYPT is urging Tony Blair to use his influence to dissuade America from taking the war against terrorism into Iraq.

President Mubarak met the Prime Minister in the Red Sea resort of Sharm el Sheikh yesterday and although no official account of the talks was given, Egypt's foreign minister and prime minister both oppose expanding the war to Saddam Hussein.

Some US hardliners want their government to seize the chance to overthrow Saddam, although the British view is that there is no evidence linking the Iraqis to the September 11 attacks.

Egyptian government sources said Mr Mubarak would ask Mr Blair for absolute proof of Iraq's involvement in terrorist attacks.

The foreign minister, Ali Maher, said in the lobby of the same Red Sea resort where Mr Blair and Mr Mubarak met: "Egypt favours co-operation with other countries in the fight against terror. Some other countries believe in confrontation, but we don't.

"We think that expanding the military operations beyond Afghanistan at this point into any Arab country would be counter-productive."

Asked if he was referring to the possibility of a war against Iraq, the foreign minister said "yes". He went on to claim that evidence of Iraq's involvement was "very iffy".

He added: "Some countries are jumping to accusations, but we don't believe that our British friends share these opinions."

Egypt's prime minister, Dr Atef Abeid, called for dialogue with Saddam. "There is no doubt that al-Qa'eda cells exist in different countries around the world, but that is no reason to start a war," he said.

"All countries in the Middle East are against terror and their governments can handle the problem if they are given assistance from the West. Just because al-Qa'eda cells exist in Great Britain, we shouldn't attack London."

In the past year, Egyptian officials have become increasingly critical of Western policy towards Iraq.


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1 posted on 12/30/2001 4:28:17 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
The more concern they show, the more certain we become that the Iraqis are toast.
2 posted on 12/30/2001 5:16:49 PM PST by Keith
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To: Keith
Don't let them get in there and find evidence to justify further attacks on mohammedan countries. We deserve the attacks, of course, but can't we weasel out of our just deserts?
3 posted on 12/30/2001 5:37:38 PM PST by mathurine
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To: Keith
Keith, old boy, indeed it is time we crush the vile things (Voltaire).
4 posted on 12/30/2001 5:38:26 PM PST by dodger
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To: Pokey78
"You're either with us or with the terrorists." Egypt, your days of playing both sides is over.
5 posted on 12/30/2001 5:42:57 PM PST by Timmy
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To: Pokey78
When will they learn that Iraq does not have to be associated with 9/11 to justify an attack. However there is enough evidence that leads them to it anyway. Sounds like Egypt may have to be considered terrorist sympathizers.
6 posted on 12/30/2001 5:46:18 PM PST by Mixer
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To: Pokey78
I was wondering what happenned to Blair....haven't heard a peep out of him in the last couple of months.
8 posted on 12/30/2001 6:26:35 PM PST by Aaron_A
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To: Pokey78
Iraq is the wrong target we should go after the Saudis Turkey and Israel will eventually have to deal with Saddam on their own.
9 posted on 12/30/2001 6:46:45 PM PST by weikel
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To: Pokey78
If we do attack Iraq, will there be massive Arab street anger like there was when we bombed during Rahmadan? Screw Egypt and take out Saddam.
10 posted on 12/30/2001 8:16:31 PM PST by madison46
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To: weikel
WHAT?! Go after our friends the Saudis? Are you crazy ?(/sarcasm)
11 posted on 12/30/2001 8:17:55 PM PST by madison46
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To: Pokey78
Rewind 10 years ago. We had more than enough boots in the sand necessary; we believed Hussein's threat of having the 4th largest army in the world, and his beloved 50k manned Republican Guard. Once we in place, we took out these scorpions in about four days. Our technology was OLD by today's standards. As far as the "coalition" is concerned, our European partners have as much spine as a jelly fish. The Arabs, posture, though they don't shiv a git.

W needs a significant high profile WIN against the Butcher from Baghdad. The Islamic terrorist will re-think their friggin/frickin jihad against the infidels. Pin-prick strikes (Clinton) against countries no one has heard of will lead us to PRECEIVED failure in the World's eyes. Take out the BUFF (Big Ugly Fat F()cker) living in Iraq. We're in the area, let's go to work. If I were military age and not running several businesses, I'd load F14s. And sure as sh!t no ass-breath would keep my written words off those missiles and bombs.

Go Rummy, let's pull the trigger on Iraq. Then let America go back to a quieter peace which we respect so much here on our soil.

God Bless America, W, Rummy, and our United States Military!

13 posted on 12/30/2001 10:29:39 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: WTSherman4
Well said!!
14 posted on 12/30/2001 10:38:29 PM PST by classygreeneyedblonde
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To: WTSherman4
I agree. Egypt is one of the countries that refuses to give us passenger lists for their flights to the USA. That pretty much tells me what side they are on.
15 posted on 12/31/2001 6:09:49 AM PST by Mixer
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To: Jeremiah Jr

New York Post

FRIDAY, APRIL 30, 1948

Ibn Saud’s Star Wanes


British Scheme to Dislodge Americans
From Middle-East Oil Control

By OBSERVER

In recent days the inner struggle in the Arab world for domination has taken a decisive turn. The star of Ibn Saud, king of Saudi-Arabia, is setting with the rise of the star of Abdullah, king of Transjordan. In this change, the figure behind the scene are British and American interests. Abdullah is a stooge of the British. Ibn Saud is a protege of the Americans. The entire setup shows that the British have been not only playing against Jewish interests in Palestine but developing a long-range scheme against American interests in the Middle East.

The end of the First World War saw the Emir of Mecca under the Turks, Hussein Ibn Ali of the Hashimite Family, become king of independent Arabia. One of his sons, Feisal, was enthroned in Damascus, from which he was later removed by the French, and then invited to be king of the new kingdom of Iraq under the British mandate. Abdullah, another son of Hussein, and the elder brother of Feisal; became Emir of Transjordan, which had been separated from the body of Palestine but kept within the Palestine mandate entrusted to the British by the League of Nations. Thus the family of Hussein the Hashimite ruled over the major part of the Arabian Peninsula and over Iraq and Transjordan.

* * *

A LEADER of the Wahhabi tribe of religious zealots, by the name of Ibn Saud, who ruled in Nejd, in the western part of the Peninsula, rose against Hussein Ibn Ali, king of Mecca and “all Arab countries.” Only shortly before, in March, 1924, Hussein, during a visit at Amman, Transjordan, had proclaimed himself the Caliph of all Moslems. Ibn Saud marched toward Mecca. Hussein and his heir Ali were defeated. Hussein abdicated and went into exile, and was brought by a British warship to Cyprus, a British Crown Colony. There he died.

Feisal, King of Iraq, involved himself in a protracted dispute with Ibn Saud and had the British on his side. When Feisal died and his son, who succeeded him, was killed in an accident another son became the present regent of Iraq, the king being a child, a grandson of Feisal.

Abdullah is now the head of the Hashimite family and a bitter enemy of Ibn Saud, who expelled his father from Mecca. Abdullah is a British puppet and was elevated to the kingship by the British on May 25, 1946. By this step that part of the mandate over Palestine which is on the east of the Jordan was terminateda wholly unauthorized act, since the British had no right to make such changes in the body of the mandate without the approval of the League of Nations or its heir, the United Nations.

* * *

THE head of the Moslem world is the Caliph. For centuries the Caliphate belonged to the Turkish Sultan. Since the deposal of the last Sultan, Abdul Hamid, and the rejection of the office by Kemal Ataturk, the first President of the Turkish Republic, following the separation of church and state in Turkey, there is no Caliph in the Moslem world.

The chief pretenders for the much desired role of Caliph are Abdullah, the son of Hussein, who was the deposed king of Mecca and a self-proclaimed Caliph; and Ibn Saud, the ruler of Saudi Arabia, which includes the emirate of Hejaz with Mecca and Medina. Other pretenders are King Farouk of Egypt, the most populous country in the Middle East, but his weak personality does not impress the Arab world. Still another aspirant is the exiled ex-Mufti of Jerusalem, a schemer whose entire ambition is directed toward that goal. As a student of the Moslem law he is an ignoramus, and has made many enemies among prominent Arab families because of his assassination of his political foes. With the defeat of the bands which he sent to Palestine, his star has become completely dimmed.

* * *

THE two main aspirants to domination in the Arab world are personal enemies: Ibn Saud, who gave the oil concessions in his kingdom exclusively to American interests, and thus earned the animosity of the British; and Abdullah, whom he deprived of the throne at Mecca and who is a British-created, British-supported, and British-financed king.

In the event that Abdullah, with the help of the British, is successful in the war against Jewish Palestine, he, and not Ibn Saud, will be regarded as the head of the Arab world and as the natural successor to the Caliphate.

This is the objective for which the British prepare, using Jewish Palestine as a rung in the ladder in order that they and Abdullah may return to the riches of Saudi Arabia with its oil.

It is a long-range policy camouflaged by the Palestinian problem. The British Middle-East strategists have maneuvered the American oil companies and the State Department into playing decidedly against their own interests.

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16 posted on 12/31/2001 6:22:17 AM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Thinkin' Gal

Cast of 'Absolutely Fabulous' has their
holiday party in Giza.

18 posted on 12/31/2001 8:58:50 PM PST by Jeremiah Jr
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To: Jeremiah Jr
No fashion sense whatseoever. Pathetic!
19 posted on 01/01/2002 7:07:38 AM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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