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  • The Meaning of Grace

    02/22/2017 8:27:05 AM PST · 91 of 91
    ADSUM to MHGinTN

    Thank you for your many responses.

    I still haven’t found any non-Catholic able to explain any errors of the teachings of Jesus in the Catholic Church.

    You may have your personal opinions that are contrary to the teachings of Jesus and His Catholic Church, but you haven’t provided any logical reasoning for your personal opinions. You may have many quotes from the Bible, but obviously no authority to back up your personal and sometimes contorted opinions.

    Your postings seem to lack insight into History of Christ’s Church and you just seem to deny what you do not like. I hope that you would open your mind and try to understand things from a different viewpoint so that you can find the real Truth, I sense that you think you know the Truth, but from your postings I don’t think that you truly understand.

    I did not deny that Jesus used symbolism and metaphor to teach in various parts of the Bible. When Jesus uses “Amen, Amen” (Latin for So be it)the statement is being emphasized as being very important and Jesus did not use metaphor or symbolism to tell us about and give us the gift of HIS BODY AND BLOOD in the Eucharist. He repeated it.

    Why are you any different from the Jews at Capernaum? “But there are some of you who do not believe.” Jesus knew from the beginning the ones who would not believe and the one who would betray him.” As a result of this, many [of] his disciples returned to their former way of life and no longer accompanied him. John 6

    Tell me what is “magic thinking”? If you have faith in Jesus, you have to accept all of Jesus. You can’t pick and chose what you believe. It is difficult to follow Jesus and do God’s will and many are persecuted for their beliefs. You profess loudly, but do your actions reflect your beliefs.

    As Jesus said many times: “Peace be with you.”

  • The Meaning of Grace

    02/22/2017 2:09:40 AM PST · 88 of 91
    ADSUM to MHGinTN

    You need to study history so that you may know Jesus and learn to accept His teachings.

    Being anti-Catholic does not help you understand God’s Truth.

    Peace be with you.

  • The Meaning of Grace

    02/22/2017 2:04:22 AM PST · 87 of 91
    ADSUM to metmom

    Your comment: “God’s Truth is in Scripture, not in any one church.”

    That is not true. Jesus established one church - the Catholic Church. He did not establish 30,000 man-made churches. The baptized members of His church are the Body of Christ - saints and sinners.

    As was stated in the Bible, Christ delegated authority to His Apostles and successors. There are significant direct quotes from Jesus and the practices of the early christian fathers and members of the Body of Christ - the church.

    Since you are a baptized Catholic who no longer practices the Catholic Faith, I sense that you have made a lifestyle decision that is contrary to the teachings of Jesus and the Catholic Church and you found a heretical church. Now you are anti-Catholic and associate with other anti-Catholics.

    Your denial of God’s Truth will not help your soul.

    Spend some time in Eucharistic adoration. “Adorers find greater peace and serenity to face life, and the wounds of their hearts find healing by going to see Jesus.” Change happens slowly but surely, for the presence of Our Lord works marvels.

    Peace be with you.

  • The Meaning of Grace

    02/21/2017 8:50:54 PM PST · 82 of 91
    ADSUM to MHGinTN

    You are consistent and wrong. You certainly haven’t provided any authority that your personal opinion is correct.

    You can deny or lie to yourself, but not to God.

    You can blame others, but you will be accountable (as all of us will) to God.

    May you open yourself to the Truth, even if you believe you know the Truth. It seems like you may have limited knowledge of the early church where the Apostles celebrated the Mass and consecrated the bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Jesus.

    Believe or not, I am not against you, I just want you to really seek the Truth. Not my truth, but God’s Truth.

  • The Meaning of Grace

    02/21/2017 6:59:18 PM PST · 80 of 91
    ADSUM to MHGinTN

    Your comment: “Springfield Reformer offered (post #64) regarding metaphor and clued by verse 35 of John 6”

    Again, By what authority is he able to interpret the words of God? It is just his personal (and perhaps yours) opinion. You can believe that opinion, but based on all church doctrine that I am aware of there is no authority that has ruled that this is the infallible interpretation of the words of Jesus. It is certainly not the divine teaching of Our Lord.

    Your comment about Nicodemus. Jesus did not say that one needs to Be born again through the birth canal. He was very specific and said: “Amen, Amen I say to you no one can see the Kingdom of God without being born from above of water and spirit.” Please read about the Baptism of Jesus by John the Baptist when the Holy Spirit descended upon Jesus and God the Father indicated that He was very pleased with His Son. This was the first Sacrament established by Jesus and required for eternal life with God.

    Again you used unrelated passages and stories to dispute Jesus words and meaning about His Body and Blood. Yes he used wine (and the Catholic Church uses wine) and He miraculously changes it into the Cup of the New Covenant at the first Mass before He died on the Cross. Catholics have continued the sacrifice of the Mass as He commanded.

    So you must be a follower of Darby and Dispensationalism that was started about 200 years ago.

    Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever disobeys the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God remains upon him.b John 3:36

  • The Meaning of Grace

    02/21/2017 1:20:08 PM PST · 78 of 91
    ADSUM to MHGinTN

    I see that you are still in the gutter with satan.

    I do give you credit for persistence and not willing to change even when logic and reason indicate otherwise.

    You still haven’t identified your church doctrine except being anti-Catholic.

    I don’t believe that Jesus used a metaphor in telling us that His Body and Blood is necessary for eternal life. You have only offered personal opinion (that doesn’t make sense) that Jesus used a metaphor, when there is substantial evidence and logic that it was not a metaphor.

    Have you ever thought seriously that Jesus meant exactly what He said about “His Body and Blood” being necessary for eternal life? Why wouldn’t you want to receive HIS BODY AND BLOOD with His special graces?

    You keep saying things that are not true. So you are calling independent scientists liars when it has been verified by many different scientists in different situations and locations. I believe in the word (Truth) of Jesus, the scientific evidence is to help non believers.

    I do hope that you find Peace and Understanding of the Truth.

  • The Meaning of Grace

    02/21/2017 11:12:21 AM PST · 76 of 91
    ADSUM to MHGinTN

    It appears that you can not distinguish facts from fiction.

    Do a little research and find out where and when a consecrated host has been scientifically examined and determined to have heart muscle. The blood type is AB. (Same as the Shroud of Turin).

    I will help you.

    There are many more, some have been documented in the book “Eucharistic Miracles” 1987 by Joan Carroll Cruz.

    I believe (trust) in the words of the Lord over an incorrect analysis by an anonymous poster.

    You accuse me of mocking God, even when His message is very clear and has been supported by the early church fathers and experts over the years and one of the key teachings by Jesus Christ.

    Now can you dispute scientific evidence?

  • The Meaning of Grace

    02/21/2017 7:08:15 AM PST · 74 of 91
    ADSUM to MHGinTN

    Hopefully one day when you grow up, you will understand the meaning of the Lord’s Truth.

    Listen and Trust in the Lord instead of blaming the Catholic Church for being true to the teachings of Jesus.

    You never did answer which heretical church you belong to.

    I am challenging you to have an open mind to God’s Truth and not the false understanding that you have learned from other men.

    Peace be with you.

  • The Meaning of Grace

    02/21/2017 4:46:19 AM PST · 72 of 91
    ADSUM to MHGinTN

    Just like a Liberal, when one can’t explain a factual statement from the Lord, then they call names and blame someone else and make up “fake news”.

    May you find the Truth instead of making false accusations based on false assumptions and not answering questions (even for yourself).

  • The Meaning of Grace

    02/20/2017 8:44:27 PM PST · 70 of 91
    ADSUM to MHGinTN

    I read your posting. It does not logically or rationally or spiritually refute the words of Jesus Christ.

    If you were with Jesus and he told you to do something for your eternal life, would you actually do it or would you question Him as many Jews did? And then tell Jesus that it is against the law and is repugnant.

    Your comments indicate to me that you do not believe the Word of Jesus, and instead substitute your own meaning (or that of others)and still profess your Faith (Faith Alone) and try to use other quotes from the Bible to justify your false faith.

    So you would stand next to God and ask a physics question on “how”? So you would question the all powerful and all knowing God on “how” He could do something? Shame on you protestants for having no faith and questioning that God would ask you to commit an evil act.

    The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread that we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ?l 17Because the loaf of bread is one, we, though many, are one body, for we all partake of the one loaf.m 1 Cor 10:16-17

    Are you a former Catholic? Or just someone that is part of the churches of the Protestantism Heresy of the 16th century that has many different doctrines yet do not accept specific teachings of Jesus such as the Trinity, the Incarnation, the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, the sacrifice of the Mass,the Sacraments, marriage, the pope’s infallibility, etc.

    I can sense your anger and frustration, but remember Our Lord’s Prayer that we need to ask for forgiveness and forgive others.

    May you find God’s Peace.

  • The Meaning of Grace

    02/20/2017 5:02:32 PM PST · 61 of 91
    ADSUM to metmom

    I realize that you no longer believe (or if you previously believed) in the Real Presence of Our Lord in the Eucharist. You seem to say that the Body and Blood of Jesus does not give (eternal) life. That is contrary to what Jesus said.

    All the various comments and Bible quotes do not change the words or Truth of Jesus.

    So I see you as a non believer in the Truth as Jesus stated that has walked away from Jesus and the Catholic Church, like other followers of Jesus.

    At some point, I hope you reconsider for your soul, not because I said so, but that God truly wants you to join Him in Heaven.

    Perhaps there is something from the Catholic Church that has offended you, but from the Lord’s Prayer, we ask God to give us our daily bread, forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. Forgiveness is important for our well being and our soul.

    I don’t know you, but I am truly concerned for you and I know that God loves you.

    Peace be with you.

  • Dangerous and Incompetent

    02/20/2017 4:10:17 PM PST · 19 of 27
    ADSUM to rktman

    NO FACTS. Just whining. Not going there way.

  • The Meaning of Grace

    02/20/2017 2:07:39 PM PST · 57 of 91
    ADSUM to MHGinTN

    So you consider transubstantiation of the host and wine into the Body and Blood of Jesus at Mass carnal flesh?

    Your crude derogatory animal reasoning and logic is beneath someone who professes love and belief in God. Your strong anti-Catholic thoughts must be consuming your ability to understand the Truth of Jesus.

    Human flesh dies. Jesus conquered death yet retains His glorified body. His Spirit dwells within us and we receive His food of eternal life - His Body and Blood at Mass.

    Did you finish reading and understanding Chapter 6:
    It is the spirit that gives life, while the flesh* is of no avail. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and life.

    64But there are some of you who do not believe.” Jesus knew from the beginning the ones who would not believe and the one who would betray him.c 65And he said, “For this reason I have told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by my Father.”

    66As a result of this, many [of] his disciples returned to their former way of life and no longer accompanied him. 67Jesus then said to the Twelve, “Do you also want to leave?”

    Jesus knew from the beginning those that did not believe.

  • The Meaning of Grace

    02/20/2017 8:48:48 AM PST · 55 of 91
    ADSUM to boatbums

    The means by which God forgives sins after baptism is the sacrament known as confession, penance, or reconciliation. “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. (1 John 1:9). This sacrament is rooted in the mission God gave to Christ in his capacity as the Son of Man on earth to go and forgive sins (cf. Matt. 9:6). Thus, the crowds who witnessed this new power “glorified God, who had given such authority to men” (Matt. 9:8; note the plural men). After his resurrection, Jesus passed on his mission to forgive sins to his ministers, telling them, “As the Father has sent me, even so I send you. . . . Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained” (John 20:21-23).

    Since it is not possible to confess all of our many daily faults, we know that sacramental reconciliation is required only for grave or mortal sins-but it is required, or Christ would not have commanded it.

    Over time, the forms in which the sacrament has been administered have changed. In the early Church, publicly known sins (such as apostasy) were often confessed openly in church, though private confession to a priest was always an option for privately committed sins. Still, confession was not just something done in silence to God alone, but something done “in church,” as the Didache (A.D. 70) indicates.

    But the basics of the sacrament have always been there, as the following quotations reveal. Of special significance is their recognition that confession and absolution must be received by a sinner before receiving Holy Communion, for “whoever . . . eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord” (1 Cor. 11:27).

    The Didache

    Confess your sins in church, and do not go up to your prayer with an evil conscience. This is the way of life. . . . On the Lord’s Day gather together, break bread, and give thanks, after confessing your transgressions so that your sacrifice may be pure. (Didache 4:14, 14:1 [A.D. 70])

    The Letter of Barnabas

    You shall judge righteously. You shall not make a schism, but you shall pacify those that contend by bringing them together. You shall confess your sins. You shall not go to prayer with an evil conscience. This is the way of light. (Letter of Barnabas 19 [A.D. 74])

  • The Meaning of Grace

    02/20/2017 8:24:00 AM PST · 52 of 91
    ADSUM to MHGinTN

    Do you REALLY believe you give to eat the real body, blood, soul and DIVINITY of Jesus The Christ, to those who kneel at you altar?

    YES. I accept the Truth that Jesus told us:

    ****54Whoever eats* my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. 55For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. 56Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him.

    At Mass, the faithful can truly come facie ad faciem Dei—face to face with God.

    What we see at Mass not only visually imparts the Church’s teachings; it also brings us into a richer relationship with God, who, in St. Bonaventure’s words, “descends upon the altar . . . [as] he did when he became man the first time in the womb of the Virgin Mary.”

    The Mass and the Bible are inseparable, and together they orient the Catholic faithful toward the destiny to which all humans are called: heaven.

    The Christian can recognize the biblical nature of Catholic worship in the first prayer of the Mass, the sign of the cross. The language of the prayer comes directly from Matthew 28:19, where Jesus commands his apostles to go out into all nations and baptize them “in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.”

    Your statement: “Catholic Mass is a blasphemy of evil origin.”

    Is that coming from you or from Satan?

    “Incredulity is the neglect of revealed truth or the willful refusal to assent to it.”

    “Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same.”

    The doubt or denial involved in heresy must concern a matter revealed by God and solemnly defined by the Church (for example, the Trinity, the Incarnation, the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, the sacrifice of the Mass, the pope’s infallibility or the Immaculate Conception and the Assumption of Mary).

  • The Meaning of Grace

    02/20/2017 5:39:43 AM PST · 45 of 91
    ADSUM to Elsie

    I like your quote from John 6, but like Paul Harvey used to say, here is the rest of story: (Sometimes quotes are fine, but often you leave out the context and misunderstand what Jesus teaches). Many say that they believe, but do not accept the Truth of God and follow His path.

    The Bread of Life Discourse.

    22* The next day, the crowd that remained across the sea saw that there had been only one boat there, and that Jesus had not gone along with his disciples in the boat, but only his disciples had left. 23* Other boats came from Tiberias near the place where they had eaten the bread when the Lord gave thanks. 24When the crowd saw that neither Jesus nor his disciples were there, they themselves got into boats and came to Capernaum looking for Jesus.

    25And when they found him across the sea they said to him, “Rabbi, when did you get here?” 26Jesus answered them and said, “Amen, amen, I say to you, you are looking for me not because you saw signs but because you ate the loaves and were filled. 27Do not work for food that perishes but for the food that endures for eternal life,* which the Son of Man will give you. For on him the Father, God, has set his seal.”l

    28So they said to him, “What can we do to accomplish the works of God?” 29Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in the one he sent.”

    30So they said to him, “What sign can you do, that we may see and believe in you? What can you do?m 31* Our ancestors ate manna in the desert, as it is written:n

    ‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat.’”

    32So Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, it was not Moses who gave the bread from heaven; my Father gives you the true bread from heaven.o 33For the bread of God is that which comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”

    34p So they said to him, “Sir, give us this bread always.”

    35* Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me will never hunger, and whoever believes in me will never thirst.q

    36But I told you that although you have seen [me], you do not believe.r 37Everything that the Father gives me will come to me, and I will not reject anyone who comes to me, 38because I came down from heaven not to do my own will but the will of the one who sent me.s 39And this is the will of the one who sent me, that I should not lose anything of what he gave me, but that I should raise it [on] the last day.t

    40For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in him may have eternal life, and I shall raise him [on] the last day.”u

    41The Jews murmured about him because he said, “I am the bread that came down from heaven,” 42and they said, “Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph? Do we not know his father and mother? Then how can he say, ‘I have come down from heaven’?”v 43Jesus answered and said to them, “Stop murmuring* among yourselves.w 44No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draw him, and I will raise him on the last day. 45It is written in the prophets:

    ‘They shall all be taught by God.’

    Everyone who listens to my Father and learns from him comes to me.x 46Not that anyone has seen the Father except the one who is from God; he has seen the Father.y 47Amen, amen, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life. 48I am the bread of life. 49Your ancestors ate the manna in the desert, but they died;z 50this is the bread that comes down from heaven so that one may eat it and not die. 51I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world.”a

    52The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us [his] flesh to eat?” 53Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.

    ****54Whoever eats* my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. 55For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. 56Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him.

    57Just as the living Father sent me and I have life because of the Father, so also the one who feeds on me will have life because of me.b 58This is the bread that came down from heaven. Unlike your ancestors who ate and still died, whoever eats this bread will live forever.” 59These things he said while teaching in the synagogue in Capernaum.

    Check out John 3:21
    But whoever lives the truth comes to the light, so that his works may be clearly seen as done in God.p

    1John 3;22
    and receive from him whatever we ask, because we keep his commandments and do what pleases him.n

  • The Meaning of Grace

    02/19/2017 6:19:29 PM PST · 31 of 91
    ADSUM to metmom

    God only forgives those who repent of their sins. II Cor. 7:10 says, “[G]odly grief produces a repentance that leads to salvation.” I John 1:9 says, “If we confess our sins, he . . . will forgive our sins.”

    God had sent Jesus to forgive sins, but after his resurrection Jesus told the apostles, “‘As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.’ And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained’” (John 20:21–23).

    (This is one of only two times we are told that God breathed on man, the other being in Genesis 2:7, when he made man a living soul. It emphasizes how important the establishment of the sacrament of penance was.)

    Note that the power Christ gave the apostles was twofold: to forgive sins or to hold them bound, which means to retain them unforgiven. Several things follow from this. First, the apostles could not know what sins to forgive and what not to forgive unless they were first told the sins by the sinner. This implies confession. Second, their authority was not merely to proclaim that God had already forgiven sins or that he would forgive sins if there were proper repentance.

    Such interpretations don’t account for the distinction between forgiving and retaining—nor do they account for the importance given to the utterance in John 20:21–23. If God has already forgiven all of a man’s sins, or will forgive them all (past and future) upon a single act of repentance, then it makes little sense to tell the apostles they have been given the power to “retain” sins, since forgiveness would be all-or-nothing and nothing could be “retained.”

    Furthermore, if at conversion we were forgiven all sins, past, present, and future, it would make no sense for Christ to require us to pray, “And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors,” which he explained is required because “if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father also will forgive you; but if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses” (Matt. 6:12–15).

    Is the Catholic who confesses his sins to a priest any better off than the non-Catholic who confesses directly to God? Yes. First, he seeks forgiveness the way Christ intended. Second, by confessing to a priest, the Catholic learns a lesson in humility, which is avoided when one confesses only through private prayer. Third, the Catholic receives sacramental graces the non-Catholic doesn’t get; through the sacrament of penance sins are forgiven and graces are obtained. Fourth, the Catholic is assured that his sins are forgiven; he does not have to rely on a subjective “feeling.” Lastly, the Catholic can also obtain sound advice on avoiding sin in the future.

  • The Meaning of Grace

    02/19/2017 1:03:57 PM PST · 17 of 91
    ADSUM to righttackle44

    your COMMENT: “I don’t recall that it was the early church fathers who were crucified on the cross for the forgiveness of sin. When they are, they can make the rules. Until then, I prefer Scripture to the early writings of the church.

    You are right, it was Jesus that died on the cross for our sins (original sin so that we could be with God in Heaven). And Jesus taught His early followers by oral preaching and he entrusted His Apostles and successors to:

    “Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold I am with you always, until the end of the age.” Matthew 28:19

    Jesus did not command them to go write a book, but in the oral tradition of the time, instructed them to Baptize and Teach what they were taught. It was many years later the the New Testament was written and many more years before the Bible became commonly available in written form.

    So you can thank the early church fathers that you have the written Bible and that passed on the teachings of Jesus in oral practice of preaching and writings. You seem to imply that the Bible is the only source of Truth from God. Can you provide the authority that all of God’s Truth is contained in the Bible? Can you provide the authority on whom can interpret the Bible?

  • The Meaning of Grace

    02/19/2017 9:31:45 AM PST · 11 of 91
    ADSUM to MHGinTN

    Jesus said his Church would be “the light of the world.” He then noted that “a city set on a hill cannot be hid” (Matt. 5:14). This means his Church is a visible organization. It must have characteristics that clearly identify it and that distinguish it from other churches. Jesus promised, “I will build my Church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it” (Matt. 16:18). This means that his Church will never be destroyed and will never fall away from him. His Church will survive until his return.

    Among the Christian churches, only the Catholic Church has existed since the time of Jesus. Every other Christian church is an offshoot of the Catholic Church.

    Any merely human organization with such members would have collapsed early on. The Catholic Church is today the most vigorous church in the world (and the largest, with a billion members: one sixth of the human race), and that is testimony not to the cleverness of the Church’s leaders, but to the protection of the Holy Spirit.

    You can believe what you want and blame the Catholic Church or accept the teachings of Jesus and His Church. We are all sinners and the mission of the Catholic church is to lead us to eternal life with God.

  • The Meaning of Grace

    02/19/2017 9:21:17 AM PST · 10 of 91
    ADSUM to metmom

    your comment: “And just now is 1 John 1:9 wrong?” I didn’t say that, but you ignored the rest of the story:

    Christ told the apostles to follow his example: “As the Father has sent me, even so I send you” (John 20:21). Just as the apostles were to carry Christ’s message to the whole world, so they were to carry his forgiveness: “Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven” (Matt. 18:18).

    This power was understood as coming from God: “All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation” (2 Cor. 5:18).

    Your comment: “There is no grace needed for those who have no sin.” The Blessed Mother is Full of Grace.

    Your comment: “ They HAVE to in order to be free from sin.”
    It was implied that one continues to be in mortal sin. If one repents and receives forgiveness through the Sacrament of Reconciliation, then graces are received.

    You can obtain supernatural life by yielding to actual graces you receive. God keeps giving you these divine pushes, and all you have to do is go along.

    For instance, he moves you to repentance, and if you take the hint you can find yourself in the
    confessional, where the guilt for your sins is remitted (John 20:21–23). Through the sacrament of penance, through your reconciliation to God, you receive sanctifying grace. But you can lose it again by sinning mortally (1 John 5:16–17).

    Keep that word in mind: mortal. It means death. Mortal sins are deadly sins because they kill off this supernatural life, this sanctifying grace. Mortal sins can’t coexist with the supernatural life, because by their nature such sins are saying “No” to God, while sanctifying grace would be saying “Yes.”

    Your comment: “Purgatory doesn’t cleanse sin.”

    All Christians agree that we won’t be sinning in heaven. Sin and final glorification are utterly incompatible. Therefore, between the sinfulness of this life and the glories of heaven, we must be made pure. Between death and glory there is a purification.

    Thus, the Catechism of the Catholic Church states: “All who die in God’s grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven. The Church gives the name purgatory to this final purification of the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned” (CCC 1030–1).

    The concept of an after-death purification from sin and the consequences of sin is also stated in the New Testament in passages such as 1 Corinthians 3:11–15 and Matthew 5:25–26, 12:31–32.

    The doctrine of purgatory, or the final purification, has been part of the true faith since before the time of Christ. The Jews already believed it before the coming of the Messiah, as revealed in the Old Testament (2 Macc. 12:41–45) as well as in other pre-Christian Jewish works, such as one which records that Adam will be in mourning “until the day of dispensing punishment in the last years, when I will turn his sorrow into joy” (The Life of Adam and Eve 46–7). Orthodox Jews to this day believe in the final purification, and for eleven months after the death of a loved one, they pray a prayer called the Mourner’s Kaddish for their loved one’s purification.

    Jews, Catholics, and the Eastern Orthodox have always historically proclaimed the reality of the final purification. It was not until the Protestant Reformation in the sixteenth century that anyone denied this doctrine. As the quotes below from the early Church Fathers show, purgatory has been part of the Christian faith from the very beginning.

    Some imagine that the Catholic Church has an elaborate doctrine of purgatory worked out, but there are only three essential components of the doctrine: (1) that a purification after death exists, (2) that it involves some kind of pain, and (3) that the purification can be assisted by the prayers and offerings by the living to God. Other ideas, such that purgatory is a particular “place” in the afterlife or that it takes time to accomplish, are speculations rather than doctrines.

  • Legalizing Plural Marriage: The Next Frontier in Family Law

    02/19/2017 8:27:18 AM PST · 20 of 58
    ADSUM to C19fan

    Society and individuals can either make up their own rules or follow God’s commandments.

    Choice is either 60 to 100 years now or life with God for eternity.

    When Jesus came, he elevated matrimony to the same status it had originally possessed between Adam and Eve—the status of a sacrament. Thus, any valid marriage between two baptized people is a sacramental marriage and, once consummated, cannot be dissolved. Jesus, therefore, taught that if anyone so married divorces and remarries, that person is living in perpetual adultery, a state of mortal sin.

    He said, “Every one who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery” (Luke 16:18; cf. Mark 10:11–12).

    God’s Peace be with you.

  • The Meaning of Grace

    02/19/2017 7:54:07 AM PST · 7 of 91
    ADSUM to metmom

    You seem to select only those passages that conform to your personal interpretation.

    Your comment: “Baptism does not cleanse sin.”

    Thus the early Church Fathers wrote in the Nicene Creed (A.D. 381), “We believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.”

    Cyprian of Carthage

    “[T]he baptism of public witness and of blood cannot profit a heretic unto salvation, because there is no salvation outside the Church.” (Letters 72[73]:21 [A.D. 253]).

    And the Catechism of the Catholic Church states: “The Lord himself affirms that baptism is necessary for salvation [John 3:5]. . . . Baptism is necessary for salvation for those to whom the Gospel has been proclaimed and who have had the possibility of asking for this sacrament [Mark 16:16]” (CCC 1257).

    The Christian belief that baptism is necessary for salvation is so unshakable that even the Protestant Martin Luther affirmed the necessity of baptism. He wrote: “Baptism is no human plaything but is instituted by God himself. Moreover, it is solemnly and strictly commanded that we must be baptized or we shall not be saved

    Your comment: “Forgiveness is as simple as confessing.”

    Christ told the apostles to follow his example: “As the Father has sent me, even so I send you” (John 20:21). Just as the apostles were to carry Christ’s message to the whole world, so they were to carry his forgiveness: “Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven” (Matt. 18:18).

    This power was understood as coming from God: “All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation” (2 Cor. 5:18). Indeed, confirms Paul, “So we are ambassadors for Christ” (2 Cor. 5:20).

    Your comment: “God’s grace is not based on works.”
    That is correct. God’s grace is a gift to us, but one does not receive this gift if they are in the state of mortal sin.

    The early Church Fathers, of course, were unanimous in teaching the reality of mortal sin. They had to embrace the doctrine of mortal sin precisely because they recognized not only the salvific power of baptism but also the damning power of certain serious sins. The Church taught that “baptism . . . now saves you” (1 Pet. 3:21; see the Catholic Answers tracts Baptismal Grace andBorn of Water and the Spirit). However, since during the persecutions some baptized people denied Christ, and since Christ taught that “whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven” (Matt. 10:33), the Church Fathers recognized that it was possible to lose the grace of salvation after baptism.

    “Watch for your life’s sake. Let not your lamps be quenched, nor your loins unloosed; but be ready, for you know not the hour in which our Lord comes. But you shall assemble together often, seeking the things which are befitting to your souls: for the whole time of your faith will not profit you, if you be not made complete in the last time” (Didache 16 [A.D. 70]).

    If sanctifying grace dwells in your soul when you die, then you have the equipment you need, and you can live in heaven (though you may need to be purified first in purgatory; cf. 1 Cor. 3:12–16). If it doesn’t dwell in your soul when you die—in other words, if your soul is spiritually dead by being in the state of mortal sin (Gal. 5:19-21)— you cannot live in heaven. You then have to face an eternity of spiritual death: the utter separation of your spirit from God (Eph. 2:1, 2:5, 4:18). The worst part of this eternal separation will be that you yourself would have caused it to be

  • The Meaning of Grace

    02/19/2017 6:44:28 AM PST · 3 of 91
    ADSUM to metmom

    All pardon for sins ultimately comes from Christ’s finished work on Calvary, but how is this pardon received by individuals? Did Christ leave us any means within the Church to take away sin? The Bible says he gave us two means.

    Baptism was given to take away the sin inherited from Adam (original sin) and any sins we personally committed before baptism—sins we personally commit are called actual sins, because they come from our own acts.

    Thus on the day of Pentecost, Peter told the crowds, “Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit” (Acts 2:38), and when Paul was baptized he was told, “And now why do you wait? Rise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on his name” (Acts 22:16). And so Peter later wrote, “Baptism . . . now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ” (1 Pet. 3:21).

    For sins committed after baptism, a different sacrament is needed. It has been called penance, confession, and reconciliation, each word emphasizing one of its.aspects. During his life, Christ forgave sins, as in the case of the woman caught in adultery (John 8:1–11) and the woman who anointed his feet (Luke 7:48). He exercised this power in his human capacity as the Messiah or Son of man, telling us, “the Son of man has authority on earth to forgive sins” (Matt. 9:6), which is why the Gospel writer himself explains that God “had given such authority to men” (Matt. 9:8).

    Since he would not always be with the Church visibly, Christ gave this power to other men so the Church, which is the continuation of his presence throughout time (Matt. 28:20), would be able to offer forgiveness to future generations. He gave his power to the apostles, and it was a power that could be passed on to their successors and agents, since the apostles wouldn’t always be on earth either, but people would still be sinning.

    Being in the state of mortal sin denies one access to the graces of God until the sins are forgiven.

    Mortal sin is defined by St. Augustine (Contra Faustum, XXII, xxvii) as “Dictum vel factum vel concupitum contra legem aeternam”, i.e. something said, done or desired contrary to the eternal law, or a thought, word, or deed contrary to the eternal law. This is a definition of sin as it is a voluntary act. As it is a defect or privation it may be defined as an aversion from God, our true last end, by reason of the preference given to some mutable good.

  • Dem rep: Steve Bannon 'is a stone cold racist'

    02/18/2017 9:55:46 AM PST · 25 of 54
    ADSUM to Stopthethreat

    Of course you are, Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.),a
    “stone cold racist”.

    Too bad you don’t recognize it in yourself with your stupid unsupported comments.

    May God show you the Truth for your lies and terror rants.

  • Grace of the Spirit

    02/18/2017 9:45:11 AM PST · 5 of 8
    ADSUM to Salvation

    We see the negative more than the positive.

    We see the negative in others, and the news is basically negative if not truly false or “fake news”.

    There was recent article in “Have you ever heard of the “butterfly effect” of Eucharistic adoration?

    Spending time with Jesus people find peace. “Adorers find greater peace and serenity to face life, and the wounds of their hearts find healing by going to see Jesus.”

  • Catholics, Orthodox, & The Benedict Option

    02/17/2017 5:22:12 AM PST · 4 of 5
    ADSUM to BlessedBeGod

    The Latin Mass seemed to be more spiritual and reverent toward God.

    All Catholics should have he experience of attending the Latin Mass. We could follow along in our Missal with one side in Latin and the other side in English.

    We need to appreciate the Mass and the Sacraments as gifts from God like the Manna from Heaven. We are so fortunate to receive God’s graces, if we accept them, and not look at them as an obligation.

    Let God’s Peace be with you.

  • Georgetown Professor Defends Slavery And Rape! Unbelievable!

    02/13/2017 2:11:35 PM PST · 8 of 10
    ADSUM to davikkm

    I don’t see any difference in most democrats. They seem to support lies, fake news, violence, abortion, black lives criminals, riots, burning buildings and cars, torture, illegals, Chicago style murders and taking out innocent children, etc. etc.

  • Blame the Messenger: In This Case Cardinal Burke

    02/11/2017 6:17:40 AM PST · 5 of 6
    ADSUM to RebelTXRose

    Yes. I see Cardinal Burke as a sincere humble bishop that has weathered the insults and remains true to the Catholic Faith.

    I met him once after Mass, when he greeted everyone as we left Mass.

    God Bless him.

  • 20 metro areas are home to six-in-ten unauthorized immigrants in U.S.

    02/09/2017 1:03:42 PM PST · 50 of 53
    ADSUM to Lurkinanloomin

    They buy social security numbers.

    Why can’t the government stop that?

    It would be nice if the federal government could control the ss numbers. Even Obama’s social security number was questioned.

    I know - there is a high level of incompetence.

  • On Amoris Laetitia: Interview of Vatican Liturgical Consultant and Professor of Theology, Msgr. Nico

    02/08/2017 6:28:44 AM PST · 2 of 2
    ADSUM to BlessedBeGod

    The work of the Church in the world is the victory over evil and death; We must fear not primarily those who kill the body, but those who damn the souls to eternal punishment.

  • Sen. Schumer says he has ‘serious concerns’ about Judge Gorsuch after meeting

    02/07/2017 3:12:59 PM PST · 72 of 128
    ADSUM to LA Woman3

    We have serious concerns about you, Chuckie.

    Keep doing the devil’s work so that God may say that is where you belong.

  • AFGE Statement on Nomination on DeVos for Education Secretary

    02/07/2017 1:56:24 PM PST · 57 of 63
    ADSUM to mdittmar

    Ask Trump to do what Scott Walker Governor of Wisconsin did!

    Walker in Act 10 stopped the collection of union dues by the state. And required 50% (not just the party regulars who vote)of actual membership to agree annually to have a union.

    Nationally, no state has lost more of its labor union identity than Wisconsin since 2011, a Milwaukee Journal Sentinel analysis found. Union members made up 14.2% of workers before Act 10, but just 8.3% in 2015. That was nearly double the drop of Alaska, the runner up. From the Milwaukee Urinal.

    They have lost 60% of the public teachers union membership.

    It is not a responsible government to bargain with itself for public union members, when when one party get the donations from union members.

    Public unions are corrupt, Wisconsin proved it.

  • Bernie Sanders: ‘I Don’t Mean To Be Disrespectful, But’ Trump ‘Is A Fraud’ [VIDEO]

    02/05/2017 5:18:01 PM PST · 51 of 62
    ADSUM to ColdOne

    Bernie is the fraud. Very appropriate that he is on the fake news network CNN.

    Hey Bernie, you have no backbone,no moral values, you let your supporters down big time and cozy up to a traitor.

    Apparently anyone can make a fool of himself.

    Goodbye Bernie. You are a nobody and very few are listening to the fake news.

  • Moving from NH to San Antonio area - looking for info

    02/05/2017 3:49:06 PM PST · 27 of 48
    ADSUM to ellipsis

    San Antonio is a large city that comprises most of Bexar (bear) County. It is looped by 2 major circular highways - 410 and `1604. 1604 is still being developed on the south west side. Notice that the entrance roads to IH highways are often one way and can have speed limits of 55mph. To turn around often one needs to travel several blocks and use the turn around. Traffic on IH 35 to Austin is very heavy and bumper to bumper during rush hour as it goes through downtown. Airport is on the north side near 410. It takes some time to get used to the heavy and fast moving traffic. Entering an interstate highway can be a long line that feels entitled to your lane. It takes awhile to get used to the traffic flow. There are a few toll roads that can be expensive with much less traffic (but few gas stations, etc).

    It is hot 100 plus. Air conditioning helps. A major change from NH. It is a nice city and most are very friendly. Many restaurants, but can wait even on week day night and longer on weekends.

    As others have said the nicer areas are on the north side, but be aware that there is significant traffic at all times, but heavier in rush hour. It can be difficult to cross town because of the street layouts and lack of pass through of many areas.

    Enjoy your move to San Antonio. There are many conservatives here, but the majority votes liberal. Some just need to be educated with a better understanding of conservative values instead of the liberal lies.

  • Penalty for last moment Scramble to pay estimated IRS taxes by Jan 17?

    02/03/2017 5:38:48 AM PST · 12 of 15
    ADSUM to SteveH

    Be sure to look at annualized exception. Separate schedule.

  • Many Titles of Christ from Scripture

    02/02/2017 9:15:34 AM PST · 12 of 26

    Begotten by God 1 John 5:1
    The one who is true 1 John 5:20
    Protector, begotten by God 1 John 5:18
    True God and Eternal Life 1 John 5:20

  • Many Titles of Christ from Scripture

    02/02/2017 8:41:20 AM PST · 10 of 26

    The Word became Flesh John 1:14, 16

  • Many Titles of Christ from Scripture

    02/02/2017 8:32:51 AM PST · 7 of 26
    ADSUM to Salvation

    Rabbi John 6:25
    I am the living bread that came down from Heaven John 6:51

  • Sarah Silverman calls for military overthrow of 'fascist' Donald Trump

    02/02/2017 5:36:24 AM PST · 100 of 164
    ADSUM to Pollster1

    She is also stupid, as the military support the Trump Administration and are more likely to consider her an enemy combatant!

    These idiots need to be held accountable instead of teaching our youth.

  • Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos says company will support lawsuit against Trump's immigration order

    01/31/2017 2:23:26 PM PST · 22 of 66
    ADSUM to LeoWindhorse

    Tell Bezos our company will stop buying through amazon.

    He is such a liberal jerk.

  • North Dakota wants hired pipeline protesters to pay state income taxes

    01/31/2017 2:16:54 PM PST · 45 of 46
    ADSUM to BenLurkin

    Send in the state auditors and let them do a rectal exam on the books.

  • Schumer on "Monday Night Massacre" By Trump: Sally Yates A "Profile In Courage"

    01/31/2017 8:04:09 AM PST · 40 of 51
    ADSUM to timestax

    Perhaps it should be an aborted baby (crying) in the DP seal.

  • Schumer on "Monday Night Massacre" By Trump: Sally Yates A "Profile In Courage"

    01/31/2017 7:59:57 AM PST · 38 of 51
    ADSUM to Sir Napsalot

    Yates did not follow the law.

    She ignored a legal order from the President.

    I hope she loses her benefits and pension.

    She should not be confirmed or given another federal job.

    She has no integrity, as she should have resigned.

  • A Tale of Two Cities

    01/28/2017 7:34:27 AM PST · 3 of 5
    ADSUM to Salvation

    We need to continue to Love God and our neighbor and lead by Catholic example. We need to associate with members of the Body of Christ so that we can grow in the love of God and the Truth.

    We need to be informed about the values and morals of society and recognize the difference from what Jesus taught us. We need to determine if church leaders are leading us astray and follow God’s teachings and moral values.

    We need to stand up for God’s Truth and speak out when we can.

    We need to pray, especially the Rosary and ask for God’s help to stop satan and his henchmen.

    We live such a short life on earth, how difficult can it be to live by the Truth and follow the right path of Jesus?

    Peace be with you.

  • Pope Francis Declares All of Festing’s Recent Acts ‘Null and Void’ (Order of Malta)

    01/26/2017 4:32:26 PM PST · 14 of 60
    ADSUM to faithhopecharity

    The faithful Catholics turned their cheek and are willing to die for their Faith in God.

  • Kennedy Drug Scandal: Family Home Site Of Major Drug Bust

    01/26/2017 4:28:26 PM PST · 37 of 73
    ADSUM to drewh

    If Ted can get away with murder, Hillary with Treason, Obama with everything, then ... drugs is a minor matter.

    We have a corrupt and evil democratic party. May it RIP.

  • Surprised By Three Miracles

    01/23/2017 7:51:01 PM PST · 6 of 6
    ADSUM to NYer

    Catholics believe in the Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist.

    There are many Eucharistic Miracles recounted by Joan Carroll Cruz (Tan Books) 2010.

    One instance occurred in 1257 in Regensburg, Germany.

    “During the offering of the Holy Sacrifice, a certain priest wondered about the real presence of Jesus in the Eucharist. All at once, the corpus on the large altar crucifix before him seem to come alive. One of the hands of Our Lord detached itself from the cross, stretched forward, and removed the chalice from the hands of the priest! With shock and fear, he stepped backward, gazed intently at the miracle, and fervently repented of his doubt. It was only then that the chalice was restored to him.”

    There are many Eucharistic Miracles, even as recently as the 1980’s in Poland.

    God’s Peace be with you.

  • Democrats seek delay on Sessions' confirmation vote for Attorney General

    01/23/2017 7:29:26 PM PST · 56 of 110
    ADSUM to Tuscaloosa Goldfinch

    After the vote and swearing in, Sessions should announce a special prosecutor to go after crimes of the Democrat party, especially Reid, Schumer, Pelosi et al.

  • Black History (aka Demonize White America) Month

    01/18/2017 6:55:33 AM PST · 6 of 26
    ADSUM to Kaslin

    Right on, Llyod Marcus.

    We deal with people as individuals and share our cultures.

    It is much more satisfying to help others than to hurt them.

  • The Modern Church: A Synthesis of Martin Luther and Henry VIII

    01/18/2017 6:35:48 AM PST · 118 of 121
    ADSUM to Luircin

    Again, I answered your questions and instead of a reasoned and logical discussion, you just state that no proof was offered without any justification of your position.

    So you seem to want others to accept your position without any substantiation. Furthermore when information is presented to you, then you just claim it is not proof without any comment that supports your position. Your lack of understanding of history and facts accepted by informed scholars may indicate that you accept what you have been taught instead of the Truth of God.

    I have been at a Lutheran funeral and the minister invited all to receive the Lutheran communion but indicated that this was commemorative and not the true body and blood of Christ.

    From Father Z who was a Lutheran:
    “As far as the Eucharist is concerned, Catholics believe that, with the consecration by a validly ordained priest (Lutherans do not believe in sacramental ordination that confers an ontological character – rather, every man is his own priest), bread and wine are changed in their substance into the Body and Blood of Christ even though the outward appearance and characteristic accidents of bread and wine remain for our human senses. After this change of substance, trans-substantiation, Christ is truly present in the Eucharistic species, Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity. So long as the outward accidents remain and the species are recognizable as, in their accidents, being bread and wine, they are still the Eucharist and Christ is truly present in them, even in very small quantities of the Eucharistic Body and Blood. When the Eucharistic species are destroyed or significantly altered in their outward accidents, they cease being the Eucharist and Christ is no longer present in them. Furthermore, we Catholic believe that the celebration of the Eucharist represents and renews and makes present again both the Last Supper of the Lord during His Passion as well as the Sacrifice of Cross on Calvary. The celebration of the Eucharist is Christ’s atoning, propitiatory Sacrifice, which, though it occurred at one fixed point in time, is renewed and made present again through the actions of the priest, who acts as alter Christus. Mass is the true, real, renewal of the Sacrifice in an unbloody way that once took place in a bloody way, historically, on Calvary. This is done through the actions and words of the ordained priest.”

    “Lutherans believe that anyone can celebrate the “Lord’s Supper” (some few Lutherans call it “Mass”) though some are called by the community to preside in the central role. The Lord’s Supper is not the Sacrifice renewed. Lutherans do not believe that the substance of bread and wine change, transubstantiation. They think that Christ is present together with the bread and wine for as long as Christ is needed to be there, a kind of “consubstantiation”. (Some Lutherans don’t like that term, but I’m not getting into that fight.) That is to say, that for Christ to be present, there must be institution, distribution and reception. If it is not received, Christ isn’t present. Once no longer needed there for reception, Christ is no longer present and there is left merely bread and wine. They believe Christ is truly present, when required for reception, but not in an enduring way. Luther used the image an iron that is heated and then it cools again: the iron and the heat are there together and then only the iron is there. However, some Lutheran churches are starting to reserve their eucharistic species and even to adore what they reserve, even kneeling outside their eucharistic communion services. An interesting development as they become more “sacramental”. Furthermore, the Lord’s Supper is a memorial merely. It does not renew the Sacrifice of Calvary or the Last Supper, but rather commemorates them. Lutherans believe in a priesthood of all believers. There is no sacramental priesthood or consecration of the Eucharist or sacramental absolution of sins or conferral of confirmation. Matrimony is not a sacrament, nor is anointing. Lutherans have two sacraments, Baptism and “Eucharist”. Their baptism is valid because water is poured on the skin while the Trinitarian form is pronounced. Their “Eucharist” is not the Eucharist. They do not believe it is a sacrament in the sense we do and there is no valid priesthood to confect it, etc. They do not believe, as Catholics do, that sacraments are outward signs instituted by Christ Himself that confer grace. For Lutherans, they are outward signs of realities that are taking place.”

    For proof of the Eucharist, you may want to read the book “Eucharist Miracles by Joan Carroll Cruz, Tan books 2010 that document many Eucharist Miracles.

    In Stich Germany on June 9, 1970, the visiting priest celebrated the Mass and noticed the red stains on the white altar cloths. When analyzed it was determined to be blood from a man in agony. It occurred again on on July 14, 1970.

    There are instances where a spoiled Host turned red and was studied by scientists, they determined that it was blood and heart muscle. There are many interesting stories in this book.