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  • Salvation and Church

    04/22/2018 1:54:40 PM PDT · 301 of 325
    ADSUM to Luircin

    I stated my belief based on the words and teaching of Jesus and handed down through His Church.

    You argue based on your personal opinion which is not infallible or correct.

    If you or others do not understand or accept, then perhaps you need to challenge your ability to truly understand God’s Word.

    If you want specific information about God’s commandments and His teachings in the Catholic Church, there is plenty of information available. Some of it has been posted here and other places on the web.

  • Salvation and Church

    04/22/2018 12:49:58 PM PDT · 267 of 325
    ADSUM to ealgeone

    Yes understanding the teachings of Jesus and the Apostles that have been passed down by the Church that Jesus founded and the Holy Spirit protects is more informative than a few that follow their own interpretation and ignore the words of Jesus.

    Catholics can only hope that all will seek the Truth and accept the Truth and not try to change the teachings of Jesus to fit their needs and wants based on the protestant teachings and doctrines.

  • The Bible, the Reformation, and G.K. Chesterton

    04/22/2018 10:23:46 AM PDT · 5 of 45
    ADSUM to NKP_Vet

    The Bible is relied upon for our prayers and understanding, but we need to spread the good news as Christ directed us. We rely on the preaching from our priests to understand and to help us follow God’s will as a community as part of the Body of Christ.

    “We put the Church before the Bible because the Church existed first and wrote and compiled the Bible. The authority of the Bible depends on that of the Church. Then we use the Bible to prove the Church; we use it not as an inspired volume, but merely as a historical document. From the Gospels as historical documents we learn that Christ founded a Church, but the authority of the Gospels as inspired writings rests on the word of the Church.

    We can define the Bible as “a collection of writings, which the Church of God has solemnly recognized as inspired” (Catholic Encyclopedia). What is the non-Catholic’s definition? Paul says, indeed: “All Scripture, inspired of God, is profitable to teach, to reprove, to correct, to instruct in justice, that the man of God may be perfect, furnished to every good work” (2 Tim. 3:16, 17). But he gives no list of Scriptures nor any method for discerning which they are.

    The Scriptures themselves assert that they are incomplete and send us to the Church. “Many other signs also did Jesus . . . which are not written.” (John 20:30). “Thinkest thou that thou understandest what thou readest ?” . . . . “How can I, unless some man show me” (Acts 8:30, 31).”

  • Salvation and Church

    04/22/2018 9:44:17 AM PDT · 224 of 325
    ADSUM to daniel1212

    You can either believe or not believe in the “Real Presence” of Jesus in the Eucharist. Obviously you don’t.

    FYI. You can google and find ample evidence of scientifically examined hosts, even recent ones in Poland.

    However, if you would like to read about the 120 Vatican approved miracles, then you can read the following article:

    I do believe by Faith in the words of Jesus “This is My Body’ and “This is My Blood”.

    While they were eating, Jesus took bread, said the blessing, broke it, and giving it to his disciples said, “Take and eat; this is my body.” Then he took a cup, gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you, for this is my blood of the covenant, which will be shed on behalf of many for the forgiveness of sins.” (Mt 26:26-28; cf. Mk 14:22-24, Lk 22:17-20, 1 Cor 11:23-25)

    If one does not accept the Truth of Jesus about the Eucharist, how many other false teachings about Jesus do they believe?

    Peace be with you.

  • Salvation and Church

    04/22/2018 8:11:40 AM PDT · 212 of 325
    ADSUM to ealgeone; infool7

    Your comment: “How do you read and study the Bible? We’ve been told a person cannot on his/her own read the Bible and understand it.”

    Again you make false statements.

    Today, priests are obliged to read Scripture in their Office, or daily prayers, for about an hour and a half every day. The laity are more than encouraged, they are urged to read the Bible. By Pius VI (1778), by Pius VII (1820), they were earnestly exhorted to read it, by Leo XIII a special blessing was given to all who would read the Gospels for at least a quarter of an hour daily. Benedict XV (himself the founder of the Society of St. Jerome for distributing the Gospels in Italian, which sells great numbers every year) sent, by the Cardinal Secretary of State, the following message to the Catholic Truth Society: “It was with no little gladness of heart that the Holy Father learned of the work of the Society and of its diligence in spreading far and wide copies of the Holy Gospels, as well as of the other books of the Holy Scriptures, and in multiplying them so as to reach all men of good will. Most lovingly therefore His Holiness blesses all who have put their hand to this very excellent work; and he earnestly exhorts them to persevere with ardor in so holy an enterprise.” . . .

  • Salvation and Church

    04/22/2018 7:08:49 AM PDT · 204 of 325
    ADSUM to metmom

    Just your opinion.

  • Salvation and Church

    04/22/2018 7:02:26 AM PDT · 203 of 325
    ADSUM to daniel1212; Salvation

    I accept and believe that the Holy Eucharist is the Body Blood of Jesus. The consecrated host has been scientifically examined and determined to be heart muscle that was stressed and the blood type AB.

    I realize that you do not believe in the Truth of Jesus as Jesus stated:

    While they were eating, Jesus took bread, said the blessing, broke it, and giving it to his disciples said, “Take and eat; this is my body.” Then he took a cup, gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you, for this is my blood of the covenant, which will be shed on behalf of many for the forgiveness of sins.” (Mt 26:26-28; cf. Mk 14:22-24, Lk 22:17-20, 1 Cor 11:23-25)

    Perhaps the following article may help you understand.

    You are entitled to believe whatever you want. However, your word and posting a few passages from the Bible does not change the word of Jesus. I believe in Jesus as the Apostles did. Some Jews did not believe and left.

    Perhaps you may want to read about the tough love of Jesus in expressing His love for us and hoping that we do not reject His Word.

    When our dear Lord was teaching the crowds of the Jews about the Holy Eucharist, in the sixth chapter of John’s Gospel, he was giving them his heart, his burning love, the means of their salvation. But this meant also that he was beginning the sacrifice of his own life for them, which is what the Holy Eucharist is in essence: the offering of the Body and Blood of the Lord, given up and poured out for us sinners.

    To receive Christ in the Eucharist, one can consider joining the RCIA program at a Catholic Church.

  • Salvation and Church

    04/22/2018 6:27:35 AM PDT · 197 of 325
    ADSUM to ealgeone

    Thought you might want to read this article.

    When our dear Lord was teaching the crowds of the Jews about the Holy Eucharist, in the sixth chapter of John’s Gospel, he was giving them his heart, his burning love, the means of their salvation. But this meant also that he was beginning the sacrifice of his own life for them, which is what the Holy Eucharist is in essence: the offering of the Body and Blood of the Lord, given up and poured out for us sinners.

  • Salvation and Church

    04/22/2018 5:47:45 AM PDT · 187 of 325
    ADSUM to ealgeone

    Why wouldn’t you want to receive Jesus as often as you can?

    Because it’s a one time profession of your faith. Where is it stated that faith is a one time acceptance and how can one determine that they will not reject that faith by their actions (sins) before their death?

    So according to some, faith in Jesus is what we want to believe, and ignore the words of Jesus that one does not agree with? Or disagree with the oral traditions and teachings that were passed down from the time of Jesus?

    The words of the Bible are not mutually exclusive. Obviously there are passages in the Bible that are helpful in understanding the good news, but we still need to understand the big picture.

    Again, many want to rely only on what is written in the Bible, and on their selective use of some passages while ignoring others. Many ignore the message if a specific word or name is not mentioned.

    So does one have faith in Jesus as God, if they only believe in some teachings while ignoring other teachings?

    It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life.

    Yes our flesh on earth profits nothing, but the Body and Blood of Jesus (His Flesh) is our salvation and does profit us. So we should want to accept Jesus in the Eucharist and thank Him for His sacrifice for us.

  • Salvation and Church

    04/21/2018 8:02:50 PM PDT · 156 of 325
    ADSUM to aMorePerfectUnion

    So you follow a man made religion that is an heretical offshoot of the Catholic Church and don’t believe in all of the teachings of Jesus and the Apostles and you have evidence that Jesus is not physically present in the Eucharist.

    Good luck to you on judgement day!

  • Salvation and Church

    04/21/2018 7:53:43 PM PDT · 151 of 325
    ADSUM to ealgeone

    You mean Emmaus? Yes.

    And it happened that, while he was with them at table, he took bread, said the blessing, broke it, and gave it to them. 31With that their eyes were opened and they recognized him, but he vanished from their sight.

    Again an understanding of the times is helpful. Early Christians referred to the Eucharist and Mass as the breaking of bread.

    You are still ignoring the Truth as Jesus told us, and many followers did not believe and left.

    The Catholic Church teaches that Christ’s one sacrifice on the cross is what takes away our sins. That’s why we say that the sacrifice of the Mass is the very same sacrifice as that of the cross. If the Mass were not the same as the cross, it could never take away sins.

    The substance of the Eucharist is Jesus Christ, and a person must have that substance to be saved. So we receive Jesus and he comes to us physically and spiritually. We pray and thank God for His sacrifices for our sins.

    Why wouldn’t you want to receive Jesus as often as you can?

  • Salvation and Church

    04/21/2018 7:21:54 PM PDT · 129 of 325
    ADSUM to metmom

    You are good at quoting one liners, but miss the meaning and understanding of the Bible. Let’s look at the whole picture.
    A comparison of the old bloody sacrifice and the sacrifice of Jesus.

    Sacrifice of Jesus. 11* But when Christ came as high priest of the good things that have come to be,* passing through the greater and more perfect tabernacle not made by hands, that is, not belonging to this creation,h 12he entered once for all into the sanctuary, not with the blood of goats and calves but with his own blood, thus obtaining eternal redemption.i 13For if the blood of goats and bulls and the sprinkling of a heifer’s ashes* can sanctify those who are defiled so that their flesh is cleansed,j 14how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal spirit* offered himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from dead works to worship the living God.k

    15* For this reason he is mediator of a new covenant: since a death has taken place for deliverance from transgressions under the first covenant, those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance.l 16* Now where there is a will, the death of the testator must be established. 17For a will takes effect only at death; it has no force while the testator is alive. 18Thus not even the first covenant was inaugurated without blood. 19* When every commandment had been proclaimed by Moses to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves [and goats], together with water and crimson wool and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book itself and all the people,m 20saying, “This is ‘the blood of the covenant which God has enjoined upon you.’”n 21In the same way, he sprinkled also the tabernacle* and all the vessels of worship with blood.o 22* According to the law almost everything is purified by blood,p and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.

    23* Therefore, it was necessary for the copies of the heavenly things to be purified by these rites, but the heavenly things themselves by better sacrifices than these.q 24For Christ did not enter into a sanctuary made by hands, a copy of the true one, but heaven itself, that he might now appear before God on our behalf.r 25Not that he might offer himself repeatedly, as the high priest enters each year into the sanctuary with blood that is not his own; 26if that were so, he would have had to suffer repeatedly from the foundation of the world. But now once for all he has appeared at the end of the ages* to take away sin by his sacrifice.s 27Just as it is appointed that human beings die once, and after this the judgment,t 28so also Christ, offered once to take away the sins of many,* will appear a second time, not to take away sin but to bring salvation to those who eagerly await him.u

    * [9:1–10] The regulations for worship under the old covenant permitted all the priests to enter the Holy Place (Heb 2:6), but only the high priest to enter the Holy of Holies and then only once a year (Heb 9:3–5, 7). The description of the sanctuary and its furnishings is taken essentially from Ex 25–26. This exclusion of the people from the Holy of Holies signified that they were not allowed to stand in God’s presence (Heb 9:8) because their offerings and sacrifices, which were merely symbols of their need of spiritual renewal (Heb 9:10), could not obtain forgiveness of sins (Heb 9:9).

    * [9:2] The outer one: the author speaks of the outer tabernacle (Heb 9:6) and the inner one (Heb 9:7) rather than of one Mosaic tabernacle divided into two parts or sections.

    * [9:3] The second veil: what is meant is the veil that divided the Holy Place from the Holy of Holies. It is here called the second, because there was another veil at the entrance to the Holy Place, or “outer tabernacle” (Ex 26:36).

    Since you are an inactive Catholic, perhaps you should get a better understanding of the Mass before assuming you know the correct teaching.

    Here is an article that may help:

  • Salvation and Church

    04/21/2018 6:45:23 PM PDT · 117 of 325
    ADSUM to armydoc; Salvation

    That is what Jesus said - several times.

    Jesus told the Apostles and their successors to go out Preach and Baptize. That is what they have done. The Catholic Church still preaches the good word and baptizes those that wish to belong to the church that Jesus founded.

  • Salvation and Church

    04/21/2018 6:35:42 PM PDT · 113 of 325
    ADSUM to ealgeone; Salvation

    Just as the Old Testament had bloody sacrifices of animals as an offering to God, Jesus gave us the New Covenant and the Eucharist and the unbloody sacrifice of the Mass that we offer to God everyday in most countries.

    It is from the teachings of Jesus and from the traditions that were established by Jesus and the Apostles before the New Testament was written.

    Do you remember the two travelers to Damascus that welcomed Jesus to their home and finally recognized Jesus in the breaking of the bread?

    Sorry that you don’t believe that Jesus Christ is present - Body, Blood and Divinity - at Mass in the consecration of the Bread and Wine. I do hope that the Holy Spirit will eventually enlighten you as was done for St Paul in his trip to Damascus.

    There is a good movie out about Paul the Apostle.

  • Salvation and Church

    04/21/2018 2:28:48 PM PDT · 80 of 325
    ADSUM to nobamanomore

    Many proclaim “belief”in God, even the pharisees did, yet they do not follow all of the teachings of Jesus or only selectively. They support the teachings of man made churches and their heresies.

    God will judge their belief and their possible false teachings. I hope they find the Truth for their salvation.

    So let everybody who knows you know also that you are convinced that there is nothing more secure and more real and more powerful than the love of the Father in Christ Jesus. And see to it by your loving deeds that you have begun to understand just a little bit what it means when we say, “God so loved the world…”

  • [Catholic Caucus] Pondering the Great Reversal Announced in Scripture

    04/16/2018 11:13:43 AM PDT · 7 of 7
    ADSUM to Salvation

    Msgr Pope is blessed and has the opportunity to do God’s work as a priest, and we are blessed to have him. Thank you Father.

    We all go through trials and tribulations that we overcome or die in our misery of sin.

    Yes, we are blessed, but we can also give of ourselves in our love of God and our neighbors. Do we do enough? Hard to answer?

    I would be glad to be last as long as I make the cut and be able to be with God in Heaven. Does it matter who is first or last as long as we are together with God?

  • Trump administration spares China 'currency manipulator' tag (Don't back down, Mr. President)

    04/15/2018 6:40:20 AM PDT · 5 of 10
    ADSUM to cba123

    China is establishing a yuan backed by gold to buy oil to go around the petro dollar. Working with Russia, India and possibly Saudi Arabia.

    The intent to to replace the US dollar as the reserve currency.

  • Here's what happens if you don't pay your taxes

    04/15/2018 5:13:27 AM PDT · 9 of 16
    ADSUM to Berlin_Freeper

    Generally, most people have sufficient withholding from their wages to pay their taxes and get a refund.

    So if they do not file their tax return, they give up their refund after 3 years and pay more taxes.

  • Catholic Caucus: Daily Mass Readings, 04-13-1/, OM, St. Martin I, Pope and Martyr

    04/14/2018 5:29:45 AM PDT · 39 of 39
    ADSUM to Salvation

    Somehow having 30,000 choices to follow God seems ridiculous.

    I saw the movie “I can only imagine” and we see how God works in ways to change us.

    God Bless you.

  • Catholic Caucus: Daily Mass Readings, 04-13-1/, OM, St. Martin I, Pope and Martyr

    04/13/2018 10:09:24 AM PDT · 25 of 39
    ADSUM to Salvation

    Today’s reading from Acts of Apostles:

    A Pharisee in the Sanhedrin named Gamaliel,
    a teacher of the law, respected by all the people,
    stood up, ordered the Apostles to be put outside for a short time,
    and said to the Sanhedrin, “Fellow children of Israel,
    be careful what you are about to do to these men.
    Some time ago, Theudas appeared, claiming to be someone important,
    and about four hundred men joined him, but he was killed,
    and all those who were loyal to him
    were disbanded and came to nothing.
    After him came Judas the Galilean at the time of the census.
    He also drew people after him,
    but he too perished and all who were loyal to him were scattered.

    So we hear about those who followed man, the followers were disbanded.

    Even today, we see many that follow a charismatic preacher often disbands when the leader dies or is exposed.

    Such as Tammy & Jim Baker, Jimmy Swaggert and Ted Haggard and more.

    So we need to be careful and follow God and His Church and not man.