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  • Scientists deliver message to NJ Gov. Chris Christie: Climate change is real and it is man-made

    12/08/2010 6:58:29 PM PST · 72 of 98
    AmishDude to Coleus

    MANASQUAN, NJ 08736

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  • McCain breaks away as critical support eludes Hayworth

    07/07/2010 3:03:29 PM PDT · 306 of 322
    AmishDude to Arizona Carolyn

    Family history notwithstanding, he has some health issues stemming from his service. I’m not saying he has to go the full Byrd, if he falls ill that will do the trick.

    Frankly, I don’t know why he hasn’t retired. If I had a hot rich wife, I would be retired now.

  • McCain breaks away as critical support eludes Hayworth

    07/07/2010 2:59:15 PM PDT · 305 of 322
    AmishDude to Arizona Carolyn

    Thank you! And it only took 294 posts!

    This is exactly the kind of refutation I’m talking about. If the Hayworth campaign can’t get their act together enough that their supporters don’t have this stuff at their fingertips, it’s no wonder he’s losing. And look at the history of the polling. Arizona Republicans gave him a chance, but he’s no Marco Rubio.

    “Shut up, that’s why!” wins nobody any arguments or any friends. If you’re going to win, you’ll have to fight.

  • McCain breaks away as critical support eludes Hayworth

    07/07/2010 2:39:30 PM PDT · 301 of 322
    AmishDude to Irish Eyes

    But this stuff should be easy to refute. Doesn’t Hayworth even have a Fight The Smears like the BS Obama had?

    You can’t just assert that something is a lie and then say “look it up”. People who aren’t informed just walk away saying, “Well it must be true, then.”

    Like I said, I don’t care, it’s typical negative ad stuff and wouldn’t persuade me one way or the other. But you seem to care.

  • McCain breaks away as critical support eludes Hayworth

    07/07/2010 2:28:02 PM PDT · 297 of 322
    AmishDude to Jim Robinson
    No, I said true conservatism is compassionate. It can be defended on its own terms and not by twisting them. Cruelty and "omelets made of broken eggs" are hallmarks of the Stalinist Left.

    I’ll fight my wars my way and I’ll be up front about it.

    And when you lose?

    I'm thinking about the war, to use your metaphor, not a single battle.

  • McCain breaks away as critical support eludes Hayworth

    07/07/2010 2:24:23 PM PDT · 295 of 322
    AmishDude to stephenjohnbanker
    Soooooo.....Simcox is ADVISING J.D. Hayworth????

    Undoubtedly. The question is whether JD is listening.

    ” JD Hayworth accepted Simcox’s endorsement whith his background being common knowledge. “

    Bare-faced lie.

    OK. It's common knowledge now, I assume.

    ” JD Hayworth was late entering the primary because he had to pay back the money to convicted felon Jack Abramoff. “

    Bare-faced lie.

    OK. Cite it. Frankly, I don't think much of this charge, but it seems that you do. So cite the countering evidence.

    ” Rep.J.D. Hayworth the largest single recipient of Abramoff related money and co-chairman of the Congressional Native American Caucus, has received more than $150,000 from Indian tribes once represented by Abramoff. “

    Bare-faced lie.

    Again, I think the "connected to Abramoff" thing is weak, but if it's a lie, it should be very easy to present the countering facts.

    Fair enough. Now show me proof of any of these slanderous lies I posted above, or get lost!!

    Whoa! It doesn't work that way. You can push the original poster for verifying information, but once you declare it to be a lie, the onus is on you.

  • McCain breaks away as critical support eludes Hayworth

    07/07/2010 2:06:56 PM PDT · 290 of 322
    AmishDude to Jim Robinson
    John McCain is my enemy.

    You say McCain's an enemy because he has allied himself with Democrats far too often. I think that's true and I get frustrated and angry at it. But I'm not myopic and I won't throw a tantrum because I didn't get my way. If I get one vote better than a Democrat, then I'll take that over the actual Democrat. The true enemy is Obama and Pelosi and Reid. Period.

    If we cannot fight for conservatism on FR, where can we?

    "We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender" -- Winston Churchill

    With all due respect, this is just an internet forum. Just like Little Green Footballs or FrumForum (or whatever he's calling it now). Men and women greater and more noble than I have fought for principles of conservatism in places with greater impact and greater risk than an internet forum.

    If we cannot fight for conservatism during the primaries, when can we?

    Please do. Advocate for your candidate, oppose your opponent. And, most importantly, present good arguments that counter the ones of your opposition.

    Has it occurred to you that, perhaps, by not presenting a place where supporters of Hayworth could effectively argue against the arguments of McCain supporters that Hayworth's campaign got soft and insulated?

    What if this approach is counterproductive? The great advantage of the conservative movement is that liberals are so uninformed. They've gotten weak because they think that everybody agrees with them.

    In short, if you give aid and comfort to my enemy, I don’t want you around.

    That's your right. But moving McCain so far and forcing him to take positions in opposition to his previous positions is a major success. More importantly, he's locked himself in to some of these. Take the victory and use it. Don't fight battles that are over.

    I believe that true conservatism is persuasive and compassionate. I don't believe that it operates by aping the Left's organizational paradigms.

  • McCain breaks away as critical support eludes Hayworth

    07/07/2010 1:30:19 PM PDT · 287 of 322
    AmishDude to mkjessup

    That isn’t the issue. It really isn’t. We aren’t a bunch of Twilight readers who have to decide “Team Jacob/Team Edward”.

    I’m not an Arizonan and I haven’t given money to either candidate.

    I won’t support Hayworth just because I want my pound of flesh from McCain. I am willing to acknowledge that “not McCain” might be worse than McCain. With Hayworth being significantly younger, that is a much bigger issue than for McCain who is unlikely to finish his term. Frankly, I’m just not well-informed on the race. Early on, it could be said that I was more sympathetic to Hayworth, which you are welcome to quote from my old posts.

    Of course, at this point it doesn’t seem to matter because Arizona Republicans seem to have moved to McCain.

  • McCain breaks away as critical support eludes Hayworth

    07/07/2010 12:50:51 PM PDT · 285 of 322
    AmishDude to stephenjohnbanker

    You being unwilling to respond is very convenient for you, but the only potential lie that regards Hayworth is that he knew about Simcox’ past and “accepted” his endorsement.

    Let’s face it, there are lots of endorsements accepted from people who aren’t perfect. The correct response isn’t to brand it a lie but to say, “So what? McCain was endorsed by Lindsay Graham.”

    If that’s a dealbreaker, there won’t be any endorsements. Besides “accepting an endorsement” is a huge range. Reagan accepted the endorsement of the Log Cabin crowd saying that he was happy that they agreed with him.

    If you call somebody a liar, you’d better have countering facts and if you ban someone for making arguments you can’t counter, then you’re admitting that you can’t win the argument.

  • McCain breaks away as critical support eludes Hayworth

    07/07/2010 11:04:40 AM PDT · 282 of 322
    AmishDude to stephenjohnbanker

    Again, you keep using the word “lie” but you have only applied that to one of the banned posters and I have not seen a post that exposes any of the “lies”. Granted, one post was obliterated, but another is still up there.

    Honestly, I want to know what the lies are.

  • McCain breaks away as critical support eludes Hayworth

    07/07/2010 10:02:04 AM PDT · 274 of 322
    AmishDude to stephenjohnbanker

    You keep using the word “lie” but (1) even you didn’t argue that this applied to the poster who was responded to after the ban and (2) I read the non-pulled post and I didn’t see a refutation of the “lie”. Frankly, I didn’t see anybody actually refuting them even though I thought they were weak arguments, tangential and beside the point.

  • McCain breaks away as critical support eludes Hayworth

    07/07/2010 9:55:06 AM PDT · 272 of 322
    AmishDude to stephenjohnbanker
    Thank you for exposing your intellectual shortcomings.

    I gave it some thought but I think I'm right in that this is not just a non-sequitur, but extremely non in its sequiturity.

  • McCain breaks away as critical support eludes Hayworth

    07/07/2010 9:46:02 AM PDT · 266 of 322
    AmishDude to DoughtyOne

    I oppose Obama and the Democrats. I’m really not much concerned with cliquery.

  • McCain breaks away as critical support eludes Hayworth

    07/07/2010 9:41:41 AM PDT · 264 of 322
    AmishDude to stephenjohnbanker
    One is banned for being a troll. A LIAR. A disinformation/disruptor. One is NOT banned for failing to contribute to a conversation

    Actually, that is why someone is banned. A troll by definition contributes nothing. A disruptor stirs the pot just to watch the arguments. And, of course, there are the zealots or paid For the record, I don't agree with the argument, but it's reasonable and could be responded to by an intelligent person.

    In addition, the specific post responded to was not a lie.

    Look, if you want to justify it to yourself, fine. Ban whomever you want and cackle about it later. Charles Johnson and David Frum do it all the time.

    For me, I never feel like I have to get the AH HA! at the end of every argument. If I win, I know it. But it's just one of hundreds of threads on a little message board. It doesn't change anything.

    But to respond afterwards? Pretty low to me.

  • McCain breaks away as critical support eludes Hayworth

    07/07/2010 9:32:24 AM PDT · 263 of 322
    AmishDude to verity

    No, it’s not libertarian. It’s human nature.

    People think that if they throw a tantrum and threaten to take their ball and go home that they will get their way.

    Maybe. Once. But eventually the other players stop inviting that kid, buy their own ball and invite somebody else to play.

    This is basically David Frum’s MO, by the way.

  • McCain breaks away as critical support eludes Hayworth

    07/07/2010 9:15:48 AM PDT · 260 of 322
    AmishDude to Jim Robinson

    Wait, wait...I’m not following this.

    You ban her, for, I guess, being a troll who adds nothing to the conversation.

    But then, immediately afterwards, you respond to her.

    Afterwards. So that she can’t respond to you.


  • McCain breaks away as critical support eludes Hayworth

    07/06/2010 10:56:21 PM PDT · 229 of 322
    AmishDude to Jim Robinson

    What just whizzed past my head? Is it a little green football?

  • Amanda Marcotte: The Pleasure of Sadism Is the Force Behind Conservatism

    07/06/2010 5:34:56 AM PDT · 10 of 54
    AmishDude to ClearCase_guy

    If they are honest and not just bigots, then they are reacting to puritanism. Most American liberal opposition to religion is along these lines.

    Who are the puritans today?

  • WaPo Art Critic Slams Norman Rockwell as Lacking 'Courage'

    07/05/2010 8:59:07 PM PDT · 74 of 118
    AmishDude to MinuteGal

    Personally, I think the problem with artists (and 100 times as much with art critics) is that they’re bored with art. You see this with the movies. They don’t produce things for audiences but for their peers.

    But almost all classical art was popular. The reason why it’s preserved is that we remember the best and toss the rest away. Shakespeare gets reproduced all the time, but not so much for “Our American Cousin,” for example.

    Speaking of “courage” in art, I’d have to ask the following: Would Norman Rockwell paint an image of Mohammed?

  • Republican Good Ol'Boys: "Hey, let's make Sarah Palin RNC Chairman"

    07/05/2010 10:13:37 AM PDT · 66 of 94
    AmishDude to lonestar; rintense

    I agree with rintense, that is outside-the-box thinking. She’s good on TV, she should know the ins and outs of the party, she get along with a lot of the wings of the party and she’ll do what Steele won’t: Cheerlead for the party no matter what.

    The RNC’s job is to say that Republicans are great and Democrats stink. Period. No matter how much you might dislike certain Republicans.

  • Many Germans Would Rather Waive the Flag-Immigrant's Banner Raises a Ruckus With Berlin Leftists

    07/04/2010 10:01:19 PM PDT · 19 of 38
    AmishDude to raybbr

    The World Cup brings about a lot of nationalism.

    Here’s the thing: Although they seem to want to blame “leftists”, the use of the word “youths” makes me think the leftists were actually auslanders themselves.


    07/03/2010 12:54:58 PM PDT · 13 of 18
    AmishDude to GeronL

    With Petraeus taking charge, this is the worst time to make this accusation.

  • ‘We’re Not the Enemy Here’ — When You’ve Lost Anderson Cooper and CNN… Maybe the MSM...

    07/03/2010 11:38:22 AM PDT · 9 of 16
    AmishDude to UCANSEE2

    They will not blame liberalism, they will blame Obama personally.

    Well, they will blame everybody around Obama first (the good boy-king betrayed by his advisers). The problem is that Obama sucks up all of the oxygen in the room, so there’s nobody prominent enough to blame. Even to the MSM, it was clear that McChrystal was carrying out Obama’s plan.

    The only person prominent enough to blame is Biden and everybody knows he’s a dufus.

  • Bar Association, Civil Liberty Groups Team Up to Challenge Arizona's Immigration Law

    07/02/2010 11:45:12 PM PDT · 4 of 29
    AmishDude to smokingfrog

    I think the ABA should put their money where their mouths are and boycott Arizona.

  • Walmart CEO Pay: More in an Hour Than Workers Get All Year?

    07/02/2010 7:35:08 PM PDT · 84 of 266
    AmishDude to 1rudeboy
    I’ve got an idea: why don’t you show up at Wal-Mart HQ and tell them that you can do the CEO’s job for less pay?

    I thought about doing this when Rutgers' football team went 0-11. I can lose every game cheaper and more efficiently.

  • 8 Historic Symbols That Mean The Opposite of What You Think

    07/02/2010 5:56:14 PM PDT · 42 of 52
    AmishDude to BenLurkin

    I want to know how you get to declare a whole mountain “sacred territory”. My tribe declares all of Las Vegas to be sacred territory. For that matter, the whole continent is sacred territory to us. So get off.


  • Uruguay progress to Holland clash ["agony"]

    07/02/2010 4:14:47 PM PDT · 18 of 22
    AmishDude to Berlin_Freeper

    Clearly, there is no disincentive for a mediocre player to do this at the end of a match. The red card isn’t much of a punishment.

  • Police: Paris Hilton detained in South Africa (possession of dagga aka marijuana)

    07/02/2010 2:57:56 PM PDT · 16 of 49
    AmishDude to Skip Away

    Give her a one-way ticket to Singapore.

  • 2 Suitors for Newsweek Are Said to Be Ruled Out (WaPo rejects NewsMax as too Conservative)

    07/01/2010 2:49:50 PM PDT · 19 of 27
    AmishDude to SeekAndFind

    I heard that the owner will have to take on the staff and the various financial obligations of the mag before they will sell.

    My guess is that’s what this is all about, not politics. I would think NewsMax would just want to pay for the name and logos.

  • Fruit Roll-Ups maker General Mills slammed with lawsuit, saying popular snack is 'unhealthy'

    07/01/2010 2:45:55 PM PDT · 71 of 107
    AmishDude to OldDeckHand
    It's an interesting rational you posit - don't hold corporations to account, because really there is no corpus and it's the old retirees who pay the price. BP is looking for a new national spokesman. I hear the pay is good, and I think you'd fit right in.

    I don't believe in punishment for punishment's sake. In the case of the BP oil spill (much of which can be blamed, by the way, on the close relationship Beyond Petroleum had -- via its lawyers -- with the federal government) they can pay for actual damages. And rest assured, the board of BP and their army of legal counsels are doing quite well. Quite well, indeed. Especially the lawyers.

    Because it is simply corruption. I.e., the company looks to whomever is in power and bends themselves to serve political ends, rather than commercial ones. Lawyers exist to facilitate this arrangement.

    No, we shouldn't just be limited by the facts in this case, because you just didn't indict this class action, you indicted all class action lawsuits.

    Fair point, but life isn't perfect and concocting a perfect but unrealistic scenario to buttress your point doesn't negate the fact that this silly lawsuit is much more emblematic of class-action lawsuits. That is, aggrieved parties receive nothing, lawyers get rich, customers and stockholders get screwed and the wheel turns.

    Yes, I would MUCH rather have Courts punish people who violate terms of contracts - and this is what we are talking about here, a contract of sale

    Really? 'Cause when I go to the bakery, they don't tell me everything that's in the fresh bread. Why should General Mills?

    I'm going to answer that myself: Because by regulation, they have to. And because of that regulation, the proper place to "punish" the company is that same regulator. The company should not have two masters, the regulator and a mercurial, dim-witted judge.

    Tort law is one of the tools consumers use.

    Funny. In most other countries, there isn't so much of the get-rich-quick lawsuiting. Including Britain and for quite a long time. Which is where the common law, which our legal system often quotes, comes from.

  • Daily Presidential Tracking Poll--Thursday, July 1 (Obama at -19)

    07/01/2010 2:19:30 PM PDT · 31 of 32
    AmishDude to LibLieSlayer

    I think the turnout models will not help any pollster for 2010 and 2012. There were a lot of unlikely voters who voted last time. They won’t be out in 2010 and will be much less enthusiastic for 2012.

  • Fruit Roll-Ups maker General Mills slammed with lawsuit, saying popular snack is 'unhealthy'

    07/01/2010 2:11:26 PM PDT · 67 of 107
    AmishDude to OldDeckHand
    I never addressed you directly. If I did, that would be ad hominem. I am gathering that you are a lawyer, if you feel the shoe fits, then you should wear it. If not, you may feel free to agree with the characterization.

    Keep in mind that Elena Kagan was dean of Harvard Law and I think the words "manifestly stupid" could be easily applied.

    Centrally, this isn't about making someone ill, it's about misrepresentation and truth-in-advertising. To prove those allegations, plaintiffs don't need to establish actual health complications.

    Exactly: Corrupt. Protection. Racket. If nobody was harmed, then why is somebody getting rich? Especially on the backs of innocent Wheaties consumers.

    No one would argue that there are [not] significant abuses in our class-action system. But, it's also true that class action lawsuits have a necessary place and a vital role in our system of jurisprudence.

    I say it doesn't and that it's little more than theft from poor old retirees who have the misfortune to have their life savings tied up in General Mills stock. Why don't you just go to their nursing home to take it from them directly? Second wrong lesson that you learn from law school: There are no unintended consequences.

    If this woman did not ask the court for class-action status, there is still a reasonable chance it would be set as a class action nonetheless. Why?

    Corrupt protection racket?

    Because if this woman does prevail at trial, that would open the floodgates to perhaps tens-of-thousands of similar claim, which would cripple the federal justice system.

    Not if we institute "actual damages" into the law. You can't argue for punitive damages anyway when agencies exist to resolve such issues. The second the FDA required those labels, any complaints should have been registered there.

    The fact is that most people don't go to court. It's only a select few who benefit on the backs of the rest of us. While little miss "Horrors! Vegetable oil! I'm getting the vapors!" tries to get her little payday, it gets paid for by everybody else. Corporations, you see, don't ever get "punished" anyway. Their stockholders and customers do, but there is no corpus to spank.

    Using your "math", plaintiff's lawyers would only be able to collect $500 in fees. Now, is that equitable?

    Yep. Why not? They are crusading for the good of mankind, they should be willing to do it for free. They are noble and are above such petty considerations as money. At least, that's what they all tell me.

    But the fact is that even using your hypothetical (which we shouldn't need because this is an actual case with actual details), there is no chance any defrauded person would see the $500 anyway. True fraudsters (and this GM case has no resemblance to that whatsoever) don't sit on the pile of money like Scrooge McDuck. Which means you'll never see anywhere close to true compensation.

    You don't like "fair" but that is exactly what you are arguing. You think that the courts can act like a strict nanny, punishing whomever performs a misdeed and -- even if compensation is impossible -- that punishment should be inflicted anyway.

    And in the meantime, a lawyer gets rich. Nice work if you can get it.

  • Fruit Roll-Ups maker General Mills slammed with lawsuit, saying popular snack is 'unhealthy'

    07/01/2010 1:09:43 PM PDT · 57 of 107
    AmishDude to OldDeckHand
    First, let me guess, you're divorced and she had the better lawyer?

    It is striking that you attempt ad hominem from beginning to end and swing and miss at the first try.

    Well done. Ad hominem is what I would expect from somebody who was severely intellectually deficient. But the divorce thing is yet another example of the corrupt protection racket that I wrote about earlier.

    Unfortunately for you, it's not about me, but I guess Alinsky is part of the modern legal training.

    It's not like math Ph.D.s couldn't get law degrees, if English were their first language, that is. In fact, if I am not mistaken, if I were to have a full frontal lobotomy, the piece of my brain that they take out could graduate from Yale law school upon admission. Yale aside, what is the failure rate for law school? 2%? 5%?

    If you'd like, I could write a long post on why one learns all the wrong life lessons in law school. The first: Life is a zero sum game.

    Returning to the matter at hand, you'll notice that, other than disbelieving the lawyer because he is in a profession that encourages deceit, I didn't argue that fraud was positive. I argued that compensation to the aggrieved was not possible in this venue. I do not believe in punitive damages or punishment of any kind via the civil judicial system. If people were defrauded, then they should be remunerated in full for the actual damage they suffered. Keep in mind that GM also doesn't disclose the amount of air in the product or trace minerals in the water they use. Though leaving out the oil would be fraud if it were done intentionally and not implicit from other ingredients, you can't have the metaphysical precision you seem to require. Her lawyer seems to be bringing up tangential issues that are provably false. For instance, are you arguing that the "calories from fat" of 5 out of 50 is false?

    If you think that the science that underscores the health risks of partially-hydrogenated fats can be described as "weak at best",

    You would have to argue that the health problems were caused exclusively by the partially-hydrogenated vegetable oil from this particular product, as if they weren't ingested through other products.

    or would you still press forward hoping for at least a chance of a positive resolution?

    Remember that this is a class-action lawsuit. If she were to sue for actual damages, they could give her bus fare. The idea is to get the lawyer rich. Period. That's why it's class-action. That's why anybody's even bothering.

    Why don't we just institute a rule that the total compensation to the law firm cannot exceed the least compensation to a member of the class? That would be fair, right? No reason why the lawyer should benefit more than people who suffered actual damages, true?

  • Professors rank President Obama 15th best president [better than Reagan, who is ranked as......]

    07/01/2010 12:00:40 PM PDT · 63 of 156
    AmishDude to AU72

    Alvin Greene, the SC Senate candidate everyone seems to agree is a moron, has a degree in political science.

  • Professors rank President Obama 15th best president [better than Reagan, who is ranked as......]

    07/01/2010 12:00:31 PM PDT · 62 of 156
    AmishDude to AU72

    Alvin Greene, the SC Senate candidate everyone seems to agree is a moron, has a degree in political science.

  • Democrats to Punt on Taxes (No repealing Bush tax cuts until after the elections)

    07/01/2010 11:46:13 AM PDT · 10 of 25
    AmishDude to Qbert

    They’ll do it in the lame duck session. Count on it.

  • (Video) Obama: At Least Unemployment Isn't at '12 or 13 or 15' %

    07/01/2010 11:36:20 AM PDT · 10 of 27
    AmishDude to MaxCUA

    BTW, I take that as indication that unemployment U3, currently at 9.6%, will jump tomorrow. I’m betting on 10% even.

  • Obama's evangelical cabinet on immigration reform (amnesty)

    07/01/2010 11:33:20 AM PDT · 3 of 30
    AmishDude to notaliberal

    No Reverend Wright?

    That’s an outrage.

  • CREW Calls for House Investigation into Obama Staffers’ Use of Personal Email, Meetings

    07/01/2010 11:26:01 AM PDT · 7 of 7
    AmishDude to WayneS

    I thought they were a hard lefty group. They’re associated with a lot of hardcore left wingers.

    Still, this is penny ante stuff.

  • Fruit Roll-Ups maker General Mills slammed with lawsuit, saying popular snack is 'unhealthy'

    07/01/2010 11:20:00 AM PDT · 48 of 107
    AmishDude to OldDeckHand
    My experience is everyone hates trial lawyers (or any lawyer) right up until the time that they need one.

    Hence the legal profession is nothing more nor less than a corrupt protection racket run by people who were too stupid to do math and had to wuss it out in something easy like law school.

    Lawyers are rent-seekers and, like ants at a picnic, they are a reliable indicator of corruption.

    There are dozens of federal agencies whose only purpose is to deal with these things and yet that isn't enough for the profession that asserts that it must be one-third of our government, at least.

    In addition, I think the lawyer is lying about the label. I think it's a much safer assumption inasmuch as lawyers can lie with impunity. It's easier to sue a corporation than to sue a lawyer. If lawyers were subjected to the same burdens they place on the rest of us, at least 50% of lawsuits would be red on red (lawyer vs. lawyer).

    Let us suppose, for the sake of argument that (a) there is actual harm beyond mere overeating (the science is weak at best) and (b) the company did not disclose the information. Let's suppose all that is true. What happens? The settlement will surely not reimburse any one of the litigants for a lifetime of Fruit Roll-ups. General Mills doesn't have a pile of money to shovel out. Moreover, even if they could shovel money out, they'd pass it on to the consumer (presumably of all of their products.

    So the meager settlement will be spread so thin, I suspect that the checks the litigants will get will be less than the postage required to send them. Except...

    The lawyer gets rich. And that's what it's all about isn't it? While the rest of us will pay higher costs, while GM will lay off employees, while the stockholders will lose money and while the people who suffered actual "harm" will get pocket change, the trial lawyer gets rich.

    And for good measure, the corporate defense attorneys and the judge aren't doing too bad either for people who were too dumb to do math.

    Corrupt protection racket.

  • Biden: "Republicans don't believe in science"

    07/01/2010 10:44:23 AM PDT · 33 of 77
    AmishDude to Tolerance Sucks Rocks

    Consider the expression “believe in science”: It means “take science as faith.”

    So in what way is it actually science if you take it as faith?

  • Family Attack on Harry (Potter) Girl

    07/01/2010 9:51:34 AM PDT · 44 of 92
    AmishDude to Tijeras_Slim

    Funny thing: Brits use “Asian” for the whole continent but in practice it means:

    (1) Feelgood story about success and family: Indian Hindu.
    (2) Crime story full of violence: Pakistani or Indian Muslim.

  • Google plans to pay gay employees more (Not a joke!)

    07/01/2010 9:47:20 AM PDT · 36 of 39
    AmishDude to tobyhill

    And...what about single people?

  • Jon Stewart: Bush is Wrecking Obama’s Presidency

    07/01/2010 9:34:42 AM PDT · 53 of 63
    AmishDude to nhungerford

    Stewart (and most of liberals now) are beyond Denial and into Anger. They cannot deny any longer that Obama is not a failure. So now they lash out.

    You’ll know that Bargaining has happened when there are true calls for bipartisanship and not the cynical and sarcastic way that Obama uses it.

    Obama himself is still in Denial.

  • WHOOPS: Obama On Unemployment At 9.6%: At Least It's Not "12 or 13 or 15" Percent

    06/30/2010 4:09:50 PM PDT · 21 of 90
    AmishDude to kabar

    Ah, I thought he shaved 0.1% off.

    You are thinking what I was thinking: He got some REALLY bad news about the numbers to be released Friday.

  • More CNN Troubles: Anchors Jealous of Anderson Cooper?

    06/30/2010 3:57:20 PM PDT · 13 of 17
    AmishDude to HospiceNurse

    Hmmm, that sounds about right. I wouldn’t want him, though. Glib as he is, he makes Gibbs look like an intellectual giant.

  • Christopher Hitchens Undergoing Treatment For Cancer

    06/30/2010 3:54:56 PM PDT · 40 of 93
    AmishDude to hulagirl

    Yes, Hitchens is a religion-hater, not just a nonbeliever. To be fair to him, he hates Islam more.

  • More CNN Troubles: Anchors Jealous of Anderson Cooper?

    06/30/2010 3:50:16 PM PDT · 7 of 17
    AmishDude to HospiceNurse

    Where’s he going to go? He won’t go to Fox, Ailes knows he will just chase away viewers. MSNBC is not a good option. Comcast doesn’t mind their liberalism but they’re cheap.

    The nightly news? I guess CBS can’t wait for Perky Katie’s fat contract to run out. That’s about all he’s got.

  • MSNBC Panel Invokes Anita Hill, Injects Sexism in Kagan Hearing

    06/29/2010 3:27:33 PM PDT · 5 of 20
    AmishDude to chessplayer

    By what evidence are we to conclude that Kagan is a woman?

  • Markos charges polling fraud (Daily KOS = McCain Scandal?)

    06/29/2010 3:15:25 PM PDT · 9 of 16
    AmishDude to Frantzie

    Rasmussen is manipulation by the Democrats? Seriously?