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  • RIP, WebTV: Microsoft to shut down MSN TV on Sept. 30

    07/08/2013 7:57:21 AM PDT · 18 of 19
    Bug to Bug
    An iPad, wireless router, and AppleTV will replace the functionality of WebTV and bring you into the 21st Century.

    Actually, you don't even need a wireless router. If you purchase an iPad with cellular connectivity, you can be on the internet for $20/month. You only need the AppleTV if you want to project the image from the iPad to your television which is unnecessary. So you could be back in business with a cellular iPad for $459 plus $20/month for an internet connection.

  • RIP, WebTV: Microsoft to shut down MSN TV on Sept. 30

    07/08/2013 6:18:16 AM PDT · 17 of 19
    Bug to USARightSide
    I’m sitting about 3 yards from the TV screen showing me the internet; a small cable box size MSNTVII monitor on top of the set - yep - no flat screen yet - feet up on an ottoman. Comfort. Not hunched over a Notebook or the like - - - Yep - truly a sad time for me. Not looking at all forward to what may come. . .

    An iPad, wireless router, and AppleTV will replace the functionality of WebTV and bring you into the 21st Century.

  • Rolling Stone Readers Pick Best Drummers of All Time

    02/11/2011 12:19:20 AM PST · 94 of 162
    Bug to My Favorite Headache

    Bernard Purdie
    The late Richie Hayward of Little Feat
    Billy Cobham
    Michael Shrieve
    Jim Gordon

  • 15 Song Shuffle (or What's on Your MP3 player?)

    12/04/2010 9:54:21 AM PST · 63 of 73
    Bug to GSWarrior

    “Loco Motives”, Little Feat, Under The Radar
    “Ticket To Ride”, The Beatles, Help!
    “You Don’t Pull No Punches”, Van Morrison, Veedon Fleece
    “Keep Talking”, Pink Floyd, Pulse (Live)
    “When Jesus Came To Play”, Jethro Tull, Catfish Rising
    “The Might of Rome”, Hans Zimmer & Lisa Gerrard, Gladiator
    “Can’t You Hear Me Knocking”, Rolling Stones, Sticky Fingers
    “Mountain Men”, Jethro Tull, Crest Of A Knave
    “Take a Breath”, David Gilmour, Live in Gdansk
    “World In Changes”, Dave Mason, Alone Together
    “What It Is”, Mark Knopfler, Sailing to Philadelphia
    “This Year’s Girl”, Elvis Costello, This Year’s Model
    “Good Things”, BoDeans, Black and White
    “Don’t Take Me Alive”, Steely Dan, The Royal Scam
    “Private Conversation”, Lyle Lovett, The Road To Ensenada

  • For The Computer Gurus: Which Linux Is Best?

    09/26/2010 5:44:28 AM PDT · 11 of 69
    Bug to Brainhose

    I’d suggest using Linux Mint which is an offshoot of Ubuntu. Out of the box, all kinds of media (audio/video) just work which isn’t the case with other Linux derivatives. It’s easy on the eyes as well. I’m using it on physical hardware and in a VMWare Fusion virtual machine as well.

  • Capitalism, And Roger Penske, To The Rescue

    06/07/2009 10:15:45 AM PDT · 59 of 92
    Bug to BraveMan
    Dissatisfied Saturn owners are genuinely hard to find.

    After owning three Honda Accords (78, 86, 98--all new, all 4cylinder), I bought a 2007 Saturn Aura XR and absolutely LOVE this car. It's the best car I've ever owned. It's quiet and fun to drive. When you push to go pedal, it GOES all the way across the power band! 35K+ miles and not a single problem.

    Extreme value compared to Camry and Accord. Time will tell if that continues to be the case. I keep cars until they die so depreciation isn't an issue with me.

  • Can’t drink milk? You’re “normal”! (Evolutionary notions re: lactose intolerance overturned)

    05/26/2009 2:53:20 PM PDT · 47 of 70
    Bug to w1andsodidwe

    For most of my life I was able to consume dairy products with no, shall we say, “side effects” but that ended in my late 40’s. It was so bad that I avoided dairy completely. I recently discovered a product that works all the time. Acidophilus Pearls. They contain probiotics that enable your digestive system to handle the lactose. What makes them different is they survive the path through stomach acid and deliver the good bacteria into the small intestine where they perform their magic. Another product worth looking at is Lactagen.

  • Fiscal Conservatives Wonder If They Nominated a Lemon

    10/14/2008 3:58:26 PM PDT · 25 of 40
    Bug to Bobarian
    Precisely. But how do we fix those rules? Is that a state-by-state party thing or should/could it have been addressed at the convention?

    One way to address this is to front load primaries in states that do not allow open primaries. Actually have registered Republicans choosing our nominee. Screw New Hampshire which allows anyone to vote in the Republican primary.

  • Handwriting Is On Wall In Detroit, With Foreign Cars Vastly Preferred

    07/29/2008 8:09:40 PM PDT · 53 of 105
    Bug to VaBthang4
    When I can get 300,000 miles on one car and only 150,000-180,000 on another....which one am I gonna choose.

    My 1986 Accord was great for the first 110K miles. After that, it ate me alive.

    My 1998 Accord was great for the first 125K miles. After that is was a huge money pit. I serviced that car religiously, garaged it and drove it primarily on the freeway.

    That was the last of three Accords. A year ago I went out looking for a Camry, Accord, Mazda, or Nissan. Took a look at the Ford Fusion and the Saturn Aura XR just to placate my Dad. I was shocked how nice the Ford and the Saturn were. Serious cognitive dissonance after years of owning Japanese cars which were better than American cars. It was very difficult to overcome my built-in bias toward American nameplates, but the Aura and the Fusion were such better values that in the end it was an easy decision

    I ended up buying the Aura XR because it blew the Japanese competition away. A comparably equipped Camry was $7K more and I didn't even like it as much as the Aura. It's the best car I've ever owned and it's a blast to drive.

    GM's new models are great cars. Perception hasn't yet caught up to reality.

  • Plunge in CD Sales Shakes Up Big Labels

    05/28/2007 12:29:54 PM PDT · 167 of 216
    Bug to WL-law

    I’ve always felt that the decline of popular music began with the rise of MTV and the music video. From that moment on, the video (and how the band/artist looked) became more important than the song.

  • Is Lebanon a 'trigger' for US-Iran war

    08/11/2006 10:22:52 PM PDT · 16 of 16
    Bug to Flavius
    The USS Abraham Lincoln, which recently made a port call in Singapore, and the USS Enterprise which left Norfolk, Va., earlier this month, are headed for the western Pacific Ocean and the Middle East. The USS Ronald Reagan is already operating in the Gulf.

    Ahhh, better check some basic facts. The USS Ronald Reagan just returned to San Diego after six months in the gulf. The USS Abraham Lincoln was in San Diego on August 4th, and returned to Everett WA last week.

  • College student seeks book recommendations (Saturday night vanity request)

    09/17/2005 8:19:21 PM PDT · 55 of 69
    Bug to jocon307
    The Twenty Year's Crisis 1919-1939 by Edward Hallett Carr. It is THE seminal work on International Relations according to my brother who teaches IR at the Air Force Academy.
  • Survey: Who makes you change the channel?

    09/16/2005 6:10:15 AM PDT · 12 of 37
    Bug to Brainhose
    Any of the race hustlers, i.e. Jesse Jackson, Calypso Louie, Sharpton, Maxine Waters, et al. Chris Matthews, Lawrence O'Donnell, Eleanor Clift, The Big He and the Mrs., Keith Olberman, Katie Couric, Aaron Brown, The Swimmer, Schumer, Pelosi, Reid, Ann Lewis, Carvile, Begala, Michael Moore, Streisand, Baldwin, Robbins, Sarandon, Woody Harrelson come to mind.
  • A peek inside the Deaniac mind

    08/18/2005 9:01:29 PM PDT · 9 of 13
    Bug to lonewacko_dot_com
    If Jeeni wants to get elected to Congress, Oceanside was a really bad choice. She has no chance. North San Diego County is a Republican bastion and home of Camp Pendleton Marine Base.
  • Help me choose a portable MP3/digital audio player

    08/14/2005 5:39:29 AM PDT · 38 of 41
    Bug to GB
    The combination of the iPod and iTunes is unbeatable. At 51, I don't get excited about new things very often. My iPod mini is one of the coolest things I've ever owned. It's well designed, does what it's supposed to do and does it well, and it's off the charts in the cool factor. It has transformed my long southern California commute and my gym workouts.
  • EU has few options as Iran talks near collapse

    08/13/2005 10:06:09 AM PDT · 16 of 31
    Bug to dila813
    So much for the efficacy of "soft power".
  • Where are you retiring and why?

    08/02/2005 7:12:55 PM PDT · 94 of 107
    Bug to Mr. Mojo
    Out at the end of a 5 mile peninsula near Sequim Washington directly across the street from the Juan de Fuca Strait on 3 acres. Temperate climate, 14 inches of rain/year, deer, elk, eagles, all manner of aquatic birds, seals, snow covered mountains, great fly fishing, wild rivers, peace and quiet. It's the antithesis of Southern California. One of two red counties around Puget Sound.
  • What were you doing in 1980?

    06/24/2005 4:34:12 PM PDT · 211 of 226
    Bug to missyme
    Spending 8 months floating around the Pacific and Indian Oceans on one of Uncle Sam's Knox class frigates in the USS Constellation Battle Group. At one point, we did 60 straight days at sea before going to that lovely IO garden spot, Diego Garcia. Twelve hour workdays, not one day off. I'll never forget it.
  • Getting Guantanamo: Teddy Kennedy is embarassed

    06/19/2005 5:13:23 AM PDT · 27 of 40
    Bug to Recon Dad
    More people died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died at Gitmo.
  • What States Have You Visited? (Including Your Own)

    06/05/2005 11:38:01 AM PDT · 39 of 130
    Bug to Dallas59
  • U.S. housing boom a bust for many (heh credit wrecks to come)

    05/30/2005 6:43:16 AM PDT · 16 of 74
    Bug to Flavius
    For some American homeowners, the greatest housing boom in U.S. history has delivered riches. They repeatedly tap their homes for equity and use the cash to purchase granite countertops, a BMW, even a trip to the Super Bowl.

    Magic money, just dropping off trees in the front yard. Just buy a home and the money spigot overflows. As if the money pulled out of a home (appreciating asset) and spent on cars, vacations, Super Bowl trips(!) (depreciating assets) doesn't have to be paid back. And the poor are missing out on this stupidity!

  • Man stabbed eight times in racial attack

    05/27/2005 6:42:42 PM PDT · 50 of 69
    Bug to Happy2BMe
    Diversity is our strength.
  • iPods killed the radio star

    05/10/2005 8:47:18 PM PDT · 39 of 68
    Bug to Riverman94610
    Yet no one has adequately explained to me HOW you get your songs on the machine!Can you pay someone to hook you up with the songs you like?

    There are two ways to get music on an iPod, both require a computer (Wintel or Mac). The iPod connects to your computer via USB or Firewire. You can download songs at $0.99 each from the iTunes website or you can use iTunes software to rip tracks from your existing CD's. It's very simple.

    Audiophiles seem to miss the point of iPods. They're portable. I can't take my Klipsch Forte speakers with me to the gym, but i can take my iPod which is loaded up with nearly 1000 songs from Beethoven to Jethro Tull, to Zell Miller's Republican convention speech to yesterday's Dennis Prager show to get me through my workout and my daily SOCAL commute. The sound is good enough to drown out the crap they play at the gym and the lousy acoustics of a 98 Accord.

  • 6,500 American G.I.'s and 2,000 Iraqis on Attack

    11/08/2004 9:36:57 PM PST · 6 of 64
    Bug to Former Military Chick
    These are extremely brave young men who deserve our eternal gratitude. I feel like they're my own, as the 1st Marines HQ is just a few miles away from my home. I see these fine young men nearly every day. Some of them are my neighbors. May God be with you young heroes as you clean out this viper pit.
  • James Lileks: Worst Rock Song Ever? Give This a Spin

    04/24/2004 5:22:08 PM PDT · 100 of 645
    Bug to Hand em their arse
    I'm with ya

    Good, cuz I'm taking a lot of hits out on point. Watch my back.

  • James Lileks: Worst Rock Song Ever? Give This a Spin

    04/24/2004 5:19:31 PM PDT · 92 of 645
    Bug to Iberian
    Dude, Free Bird was a classic. Skynird you got to be kidding, tell me you did't mean that. LOL

    Serious as that FBI Agent knocking at your door.

  • James Lileks: Worst Rock Song Ever? Give This a Spin

    04/24/2004 5:16:12 PM PDT · 84 of 645
    Bug to Hand em their arse
    Are you more of a Schlitz guy?? :)

    No, I'm more of a chablis and brie kinda guy.

  • James Lileks: Worst Rock Song Ever? Give This a Spin

    04/24/2004 5:11:31 PM PDT · 73 of 645
    Bug to shelterguy
    You dare to criticize Freebird?

    Yes!

    You obviosly don't realize how cool that song is after a few too many Pabst Blue Ribbons.

    In my 49 years of life, that experience has escaped me. ;-}

  • James Lileks: Worst Rock Song Ever? Give This a Spin

    04/24/2004 5:03:12 PM PDT · 57 of 645
    Bug to quidnunc
    Lynyrd Skynyrd's Freebird
  • The Passion Of The Liberal

    03/03/2004 8:19:02 PM PST · 5 of 17
    Bug to upchuck
    The search^ is our friend and can help prevent multiple postings.

    Posting titles accurately also prevents multiple postings.

  • The Passion Of The Liberal

    03/03/2004 8:16:37 PM PST · 4 of 17
    Bug to TomServo
    Hmmm, searched on Passion, not passion.
  • The Passion Of The Liberal

    03/03/2004 8:12:08 PM PST · 1 of 17
    Bug
  • Grocery workers set to vote on pact

    02/28/2004 5:21:35 AM PST · 1 of 7
    Bug
    "We made a stand for all union members," said David Larios, a 28-year employee of the Vons on Bonita Road in Chula Vista.

    And you lost. Badly. The fact is, the supermarket companies were NOT trying to take away your healthcare. They only asked that you pay a portion, just like most other workers. And that's what your union ended up negoiating.

    About the only "victory" the union can claim is that they hurt the hand that feeds them and badly hurt their members. I asked a picketer yesterday if it was worth it. His body language belied his answer. They've been had and they know it. Four plus months with no pay to get a deal they could have had in a week. No doubt they'll blame the "greedy companies" rather than themselves and the boneheads who led them to strike.

    It's quite sad actually. These ignorant people have been led over a cliff by thugs to whom they've trusted their livelihoods. Maybe this will be a lesson to other truculent unions that strikes are anachronistic and dangerous. Or to unskilled workers that acquiring marketable skills through self-improvement and education are a better bet than being a member of a labor cartel that uses force to impose higher than market prices for unskilled labor upon its employer. Nah.

  • Miller Delivers Floor Speech on ‘Deficit of Decency’ in America

    02/18/2004 6:24:05 AM PST · 1 of 45
    Bug
  • Researchers say they can predict divorces

    02/17/2004 10:45:56 AM PST · 32 of 110
    Bug to PackerBoy
    She has class and taste, and I aspire to.

    LOL funny!

  • Need Freeper help: PCs vs. Mac

    02/02/2004 11:42:40 AM PST · 83 of 100
    Bug to thoughtomator
    Unless she's unusually computer-savvy, get her a Mac

    That just isn't true, and here's a real world example. My 78 year old father isn't very computer savvy. He has an iMac I purchased for him a few years ago running MacOS 9.2. He uses his computer for email and web surfing and doing his taxes.

    He depends on the Launcher to start programs. When he installs the latest version of TurboTax, he can't understand how to launch it. I've told him repeatedly that he has to find the executable file, make an alias, and move the alias to the Launcher Items folder. Then he can start his new program.

    I've been telling him this for years now, and he doesn't get it. He's not senile. He's extremely intelligent, but this kind of thing is difficult for an older person to remember, especially one who just uses a computer to get stuff done. If he had a Windows Box, the only step he'd have to take is to use the Start Button to find his newly installed application.

    Watching my elderly father interact with his computer has led me to the conclusion that the Windows Taskbar and Start key are clearly superior to the Mac's Launcher and Application Menu, an interface I once used to think was the greatest. And a one button mouse simply can't be defended. Trying to get him to remember using keys in combination with his mouse is just asking too much. Left/right he can remember and understand.

    I would very much like to replace his iMac with a Windows box running XP to REDUCE the number of frustrating episodes he has with his computer. The only reason I haven't is the difficulty learning new things once one gets older. Since we live on opposite coasts, thank G-d for VNC server (not well supported for Macs) which allows me to connect to his box and see and interact with his desktop in my browser window.

  • Need Freeper help: PCs vs. Mac

    02/02/2004 11:10:59 AM PST · 73 of 100
    Bug to Maceman
    should my Mom's next desktop be a Mac or a Windows XP PC?

    I have a similar situation, only my Dad is 9 years younger than your Mom. I'm equally adept with Linux, Windows, and a Mac. I can support any of these operating systems although I lean toward Linux and Windows.

    I was inclined to move my Dad from the iMac I bought him a few years ago to a new PC running XP. But after watching him interact with his computer, I think the best course of action is to leave it be. The older one gets, the more difficult it is to learn and remember. I'd suggest your mom stay with the PC. She and you are comfortable and providing her with a Mac will NOT add any value.

  • McAuliffe: Dems Will Focus on Bush AWOL Charge

    02/01/2004 9:14:22 AM PST · 99 of 165
    Bug to Tumbleweed_Connection
    Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe insisted on Sunday that President Bush "never served in the military," and said that Democrats would make reports that the president went "AWOL" from the Alabama National Guard in the early 1970s a central focus of the presidential campaign.

    Thank G-d for Terry McAwful. He's the gift that keeps on giving.

  • [Striking Grocery Clerks] In a holding pattern

    01/30/2004 7:47:25 AM PST · 1 of 15
    Bug
    "And we're still standing strong."

    Choose any random store in Southern California at any random time and you'll see zombies going through the motions. This woman is delusional. The union must be serving up some strong Kool-Aid."

  • Democrat Quotes on Iraq Weapons of Mass Destruction

    01/05/2004 7:53:11 AM PST · 10 of 33
    Bug to freedom44
    "[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter to President Clinton, signed by: -- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

    Hmmm, no mention of consulting with the U.N.

  • Lieberman unveils plan to curb domestic violence

    01/03/2004 7:06:37 AM PST · 14 of 24
    Bug to billorites
    This is why the dems don't have a chance. We face annihilation from Islamo Fascists and Lieberman wants to talk about curbing domestic violence. They are profoundly unserious about national security.
  • Thousands Turn Out for the Rose Parade

    01/01/2004 12:13:16 PM PST · 5 of 5
    Bug to JohnHuang2
    As I watched this wonderful piece of Americana, I saw things that must have made liberals squirm. Military planes, military marching bands, mounted Marine Color Guard, corporate sponsors, the pursuit of excellence and rewarding that excellence by including some school bands and excluding others who didn't make the cut.
  • Windows 98 upgrade problem..Help

    01/01/2004 11:58:40 AM PST · 9 of 65
    Bug to livesbygrace
    I also suggest you switch to Mozilla. Its tabbed browsing, popup killer, and sidebar make surfing a dream. I've never looked back since I switched more than a year ago.
  • Notorious e-mail scam finds believers

    12/29/2003 6:24:45 AM PST · 37 of 51
    Bug to goldstategop
    You would think people would be skeptical of claims of instant wealth with little or no hard work involved. Even millionaires didn't get it handed to them on a silver platter.

    There are millions of folks like this. They make up the bulk of the democrat party.

    I had a guy doing work in my house last week. We were chatting about jobs, business, etc. when I told him about my best friend's brother who created and owns Arizona Tea. You don't get as rich and successful as this guy without a lot of hard work and smarts, yet my tile layer attributed it all to a "lucky break".

  • For 2004, Bush Has Strength in the White Male Numbers

    12/28/2003 7:35:27 AM PST · 99 of 296
    Bug to FairOpinion
    Republican incumbents Richard Nixon in 1972 and Ronald Reagan in 1984 carried white men by 35 percentage points en route to landslide reelections, according to network exit polls. In 1988, George H.W. Bush beat Democrat Michael S. Dukakis by 27 percentage points among white men, the same advantage Reagan enjoyed over Jimmy Carter in 1980.

    Hmm, tell me again which party has a "gender gap" problem?

    Stanley B. Greenberg, the pollster for Gore in 2000 and Clinton in 1992, agreed. "Younger, married white men are disastrously, overwhelmingly Republican," he said. "They are trending more Republican over time. ".

    Interesting choice of words.

    Blunt in his words, comfortable on his ranch, dismissive of ceremony, impatient with diplomacy, Bush fits "an old-fashioned male ideal, deeply embedded in our cultural mythology,"

    The ideal "is that a real man is a man of few words and determined, resolute action: like in [the movie] 'High Noon.' And Bush captures this almost perfectly and effortlessly." The president's black-and-white pronouncements on terrorism and war — from his promise to capture Osama bin Laden "dead or alive" to his "bring 'em on" taunt to Iraqi resisters — which generate unease among many women and even some more affluent men, help cement Bush's attachment to blue-collar men, who, recent polls show, support him at higher levels than men with college degrees.

    Condescending nonsense. This is September 10th thinking in a nutshell.

    In the latest Pew survey, white men without college degrees preferred Bush to a Democrat in 2004 by 60% to 25%.

    Notably absent is any reference to white men WITH college degrees. I suspect a strong majority support the president which wouldn't support the not so subtle assertion that only uneducated people support W.

    "He kind of runs a testosterone-driven White House, in terms of both the rhetoric and the dominant issue, which is war," said John Anzalone, an Alabama-based Democratic pollster. "It's a natural resonance with men, particularly white men. Usually the only thing that knocks that down for a Democrat is the economy."

    The Republican Party is the party of male men, the other party is that of feminized men. When Islamic nuts threathen to obliterate your nation, is it any surprise the guy who does all he can to protect the nation is favored over the sophisticates who would turn our security and sovereignty over to an international body populated by the likes of France, Belgium, Cameroon, and Libya? Like, shouldn't we check with Senegal before we defend ourselves?

  • FAR FROM THE FEAST

    12/25/2003 5:51:39 AM PST · 3 of 22
    Bug to JohnHuang2
    This nearly moved me to tears. I spent Christmas of '81 afloat in the Arabian Sea on a U.S. warship. I badly missed my family and just wanted to get through the day while looking forward to Christmas of '82. I won't forget our soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, and coasties today. And they'll be remembered in prayer before we eat.
  • JonBenet Ramsey's Parents Sue Fox News

    12/24/2003 7:47:05 PM PST · 106 of 226
    Bug to Houmatt
    I would bet you a dollar to a doughnut the ransom note was not even mentioned, let alone came into play, during this Texas cop's investigation.

    No, it was central to his investigation, but I don't remember any of the details. My wife is a cold case investigator (A&E and CourtTV have done stories on her cases) and she's convinced that the Ramsey's had nothing to do with it after viewing this program.

  • JonBenet Ramsey's Parents Sue Fox News

    12/24/2003 3:43:47 PM PST · 99 of 226
    Bug to MetalHeadConservative35
    I saw a devastating critique of the Boulder police investigation on one of those cable forensic shows. Can't remember if it was A&E's Cold Case, but I think it was. I was convinced that someone in the family had done it until I saw this show. They brought up the best homicide detective in the country from Texas to examine the evidence. He made a brilliant case that JonBenet was indeed killed by an intruder. I don't remember much more about it other than this detective backed up his theory with evidence and logic and completely convinced me of the parents' innocence.
  • Flights From Paris to U.S. Cancelled

    12/24/2003 3:11:21 PM PST · 619 of 712
    Bug to cyncooper
    A buddy of mine is a pilot for a major airline and returned from France today. He said he's never seen such tight security. Once they arrived at Newark, they were greeted by a SWAT team in the immigration area. The armed SWAT guys demanded to see everyone's passport in a business like manner. Luggage was pulled off the plane for a recheck, and the three Air Marshalls were very jumpy.
  • A Message To Conservatives: "Your Silence About Rush Limbaugh Is Deafening."

    12/24/2003 5:48:18 AM PST · 106 of 622
    Bug to The Raven
    Neil Boortz put out a (libetarian) challenge to listeners to name one person who was harmed by Rush.

    Marta, other family members, his staff, his business partners, and the conservative movement for starters.