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  • ‘Jews, the End is Near’, Says Graffiti in Rome

    07/29/2014 5:35:01 PM PDT · 6 of 19
    chajin to Olog-hai

    The end is near. Fortunately, the Jewish end is never. Israel is forever!

  • "Is Religion Good for Children?" (Slate)

    07/29/2014 4:36:30 PM PDT · 12 of 21
    chajin to Pollster1
    "Because kids do better with religion" is a silly and shallow answer.

    Not necessarily silly and shallow per se, but it is utilitarian. It demonstrates the lack of commitment to Christ on the part of the parents, because if you know Christ and are committed to Him in all things, the better answer would be, "I cannot not teach them, any more than I could not breathe, or my heart not beat, or my lips not taste water." You could then quote St. Patrick's prayer ("I bind unto myself today").

  • "Is Religion Good for Children?" (Slate)

    07/29/2014 4:16:19 PM PDT · 8 of 21
    chajin to Olog-hai
    All that talk of snake-inspired subterfuge, planet-cleansing floods, and apocalyptic horsemen might hamper kids’ ability to differentiate between fantasy and reality—or even to think critically …

    Evidently has never read "The Ethics of Elfland" from Chesterton's Orthodoxy. And if you haven't, read it here.

  • Homosexual Man Fired from Children’s Ministry for Introducing Boyfriend to Kids

    07/29/2014 3:58:26 PM PDT · 15 of 31
    chajin to kaehurowing
    There is no such thing as a “gay Christian.”

    There was, until the language was co-opted. You wanna mess with minds, tell 'em Paul wrote in the Bible that everyone should be a gay Christian, and when they incredulously ask where, tell 'em Philippians 4:4.

  • Homosexual Man Fired from Children’s Ministry for Introducing Boyfriend to Kids

    07/29/2014 3:56:03 PM PDT · 14 of 31
    chajin to wardaddy
    Quite different from Yankee Church of Christ.....

    You sure you don't mean the difference between the Church of Christ and the United Church of Christ? The former is sectarian, no instrumental music and takes communion often, and theologically conservative, while the latter is essentially a leftist organization--I think Jeremiah Wright was UCC.

  • Chrome is throwing false 'Malware' detection for Free Republic

    07/29/2014 7:27:10 AM PDT · 41 of 96
    chajin to lewislynn

    My main online employer’s website will only run on Chrome, so it is either that or go on the dole, though I don’t use it for anything else.

  • Barack to the Future

    07/29/2014 6:27:54 AM PDT · 17 of 22
    chajin to JSteff

    Sorry, I wrote “Shamir” and meant Menachem Begin

  • Barack to the Future

    07/29/2014 6:25:35 AM PDT · 16 of 22
    chajin to JSteff

    It was Carter who brought Sadat and Shamir together, resulting in the peace treaty between Egypt and Israel, and he did it because his Christian beliefs led him to support peace for Israel. To this day, Egypt’s leader is still taking Israel’s side against Hamas, not because Egypt loves Israel, but because al-Sisi, like Mubarak before him and Sadat before him, realizes that Hamas is a front for terrorism, and is as much against him as it is against Israel. Carter today has become a sycophant follower of the anti-Israel leftists, as has everyone who remains a Democrat, but back then he had a good motivation, and obtained a good result.

  • Barack to the Future

    07/29/2014 4:15:46 AM PDT · 14 of 22
    chajin to Olog-hai
    “Heading that way”? It always was!

    You beat me to it. Truman liberals, like my father, JFK, LBJ, Carter, and more recently Lieberman, were supporters of Israel, but true leftists have always been anti-Israel and anti-Jew: Israel has been the perfect whipping boy for their political BDSM fantasies, and Jews the perfect foil to deflect attacks on the perpetual failure of their ideology. (That God loves Israel and Satan hates Israel is the underlying motivation, but most leftists are useful idiots and don't recognize this.)

  • Pope in Caserta asks pardon for persecution of Pentecostals

    07/28/2014 12:11:21 PM PDT · 10 of 69
    chajin to BlatherNaut

    When Pentecostalism started in 1908 on Azusa St. in LA (within walking distance of Japantown, but I digress), people making $3000 a year were in the top 1% of income. With both price and dollar inflation, that figure is at least 100 times higher today. Wouldn’t that make the present-day adherents Dollarcostals?

  • Actor Richard Roxburgh condemns ancestors as he discovers his family 'owned' 109 slaves

    07/28/2014 8:50:29 AM PDT · 40 of 51
    chajin to C19fan

    When I did ancestry research back in the 70s and 80s pre-internet, I discovered that my g-g-g-grandfather on my father’s side was a plantation slaveowner, but that two g-g-grandfathers on my mother’s side fought for the Union, one of whom was one of four brothers, with two each fighting on each side of the war. Over 200 years earlier, the slaveowner’s g-g-g-g-grandfather came over as an indentured servant, worked his seven years, and got his 100 acres. I am proud of my indentured servant ancestor, not proud of my slaveowning ancestor, but I am not defined by either, but by my own actions, and by my own opposition to all forms of worldly slavery.

  • Colorado woman's quest for jihad baffles neighbors

    07/26/2014 7:10:47 PM PDT · 5 of 18
    chajin to markomalley
    Islam is a mental disorder. A violent one only cured by a bullet.

    That is plan B. Plan A is Jesus. http://www.answering-islam.org/Testimonies/

  • Fast food workers vow civil disobedience (Demand $15/hr. minimum wage, unions)

    07/26/2014 6:50:23 PM PDT · 42 of 72
    chajin to bigbob
    “Horn and Hardart”

    Used to go to the one in downtown Philly (probably Broad St., though it could have been Market) as a child in the early 60s; thought it was the neatest thing. Maybe it's why I learned to love Japan with all its vending machines...

  • Editor Fired for Criticizing ‘Queen James Bible’ on Personal Blog Files Federal Complaint

    07/26/2014 6:33:07 PM PDT · 6 of 14
    chajin to Publius
    Set to music by Mahler

    It almost pains me as a DMA to admit I had forgotten about that. (Almost; you can't keep everything in your head :> ) Dankeschoen for the reminder.

  • Editor Fired for Criticizing ‘Queen James Bible’ on Personal Blog Files Federal Complaint

    07/26/2014 6:25:28 PM PDT · 4 of 14
    chajin to SoFloFreeper
    Die Gedanken sind frei, wer kann sie erraten,
    sie fliegen vorbei wie nächtliche Schatten.
    Kein Mensch kann sie wissen, kein Jäger erschießen
    mit Pulver und Blei: Die Gedanken sind frei!

    (Thoughts are free, who can guess them?
    They fly by like nocturnal shadows.
    No man can know them, no hunter can shoot them
    with powder and lead: Thoughts are free!)

    This is the first verse of a traditional German song, which became a signal to the anti-Hitler resistance. Perhaps it is time to learn this song again.

  • NYPD detained men who had pressure cookers to ‘prepare rice’

    07/26/2014 5:29:51 PM PDT · 51 of 93
    chajin to BykrBayb
    I don’t buy their story. I was just pointing out that you can cook rice in a pressure cooker.

    True on both counts, but if you wanted to cook un-parboiled (aka not Uncle Ben's etc.) rice, you wouldn't buy a pressure cooker, you'd buy a rice cooker. Sure, it takes a half-hour to do it right--20 minutes to cook, then 10 minutes to steam--but there's nothing better than "real" rice steam-cooked at the right speed.

    None of which is relevant to the issue of two Muslims with two pressure cookers in Manhattan, which is suspicious as Jahannam.

  • The Psychopathology of Sandra Fluke's All-American Totalitarian Vagina

    07/26/2014 2:59:04 PM PDT · 26 of 43
    chajin to Objective Scrutator
    The ideology of the Left is to fornicate, fornicate, and fornicate

    Leftist secular sexology is a bastardization (no pun intended) of Greco-Roman sexology. In the Greco-Roman world, sex was defined, not by male and female per se, but by penetrator and penetrated: the one in authority was the penetrator, the one in submission was the penetrated. Marital sex was for the purpose of procreation, without the illusion of intimacy or connection; all other sex was porneia, the act of the penetrator upon the penetrated, for selfish and/or religious purposes. What constitutes the contemporary bastardization is the attempt to make male and female roles equivalent, so that females may choose to play the penetrator role, psychologically if not physically, whether in now-acceptable lesbian relationships, or in Fluke-style picking up of men for her own pleasure. Otherwise, the approach to sex in the contemporary world is no different than the approach to sex in the Greco-Roman world--the approach that Judeo-Christian sexology worked at overthrowing, with a fair amount of success, wherever Judaism and/or Christianity became the prevailing religious thinking.

  • Any stories of Obama buyer's remorse?

    07/26/2014 1:53:22 PM PDT · 20 of 45
    chajin to x
    According to one poll, 71% of Obama voters said they regretted voting for him, but 79% said they'd vote for him again.
    I don't get it either.

    A combination disorder: cognitive dissonance, Stockholm syndrome, self-esteem issues, "Magic Negro" syndrome ("He'll become what we need him to become").

  • Robber Fails Because He Can't Speak German

    07/25/2014 6:18:48 PM PDT · 11 of 17
    chajin to mikrofon
    Ich bin ein Badrobber!

    And the man wins the Jelly Doughnut prize...

  • Hamas-CAIR Protest in Miami: “We Are Hamas!”, oh Jews, the armies of Muhammad are coming!”

    07/25/2014 3:13:51 PM PDT · 3 of 29
    chajin to NYer

    I couldn’t CAIR less.

    Israel is forever!

  • No, Supporting Hamas Is Not 'Feminist'

    07/25/2014 3:04:31 PM PDT · 4 of 4
    chajin to OddLane
    “Ending Zionism is a feminist issue.”

    Ending Islam is a feminist issue. Ending terrorism is a feminist issue. Ending Zionism is a Satanic issue.

  • John Kerry still the only Secretary of State in 20 years to fail at ceasefire efforts in Mideast

    07/25/2014 2:54:43 PM PDT · 16 of 23
    chajin to Kaslin

    As much as I despise Kerry’s work as SOS, in this instance I think it is as much a matter of bad timing as anything: Hamas has overplayed its hand, and Israel isn’t about to let the aggressors get the upper hand. Hamas had its chance for a ceasefire, truce, even a peace treaty, but all it wants is Israel to cease to exist, and that is not going to happen.

  • Atheists End Teacher-Led Prayer in Indiana School District

    07/25/2014 2:49:54 PM PDT · 4 of 29
    chajin to Faith Presses On

    What would happen if all the teachers in the county schools simply refused to give up morning prayer? The school board would not fire all of them, and in any case the teacher’s union would not allow such a mass firing to happen. Perhaps this is the place to draw the red line and tell the atheists to (hopefully only metaphorically) go to hell.

  • The Humour Corner – A Computer For The Jewish People

    07/25/2014 1:27:03 PM PDT · 19 of 26
    chajin to EinNYC

    FWIW, there’s turkey Spam, which could be kosher...

  • Live thread: Cabinet said to unanimously reject Kerry ceasefire - Kerry to speak soon

    07/25/2014 10:42:55 AM PDT · 2 of 55
    chajin to Dave346

    Thank God!

  • A Thank You Letter From Hamas to the Media

    07/25/2014 7:59:13 AM PDT · 3 of 3
    chajin to SJackson

    Can you say “Tet Offensive”? I know you can...

  • Asian American Success Debunks Liberal Myth of American Racism

    07/24/2014 3:33:34 PM PDT · 5 of 15
    chajin to dignitasnews

    At the risk of being unPC, I will put the situation bluntly: as far as most progressives are concerned, ethnic East Asians are slant-eyed white people, with all the supposed “privilege” attached thereto. To qualify for “diversity,” you cannot be Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Singaporean, or Vietnamese. (India[n]s will join this group soon enough, if they have not already done so.)

  • Here’s What’s in Paul Ryan’s Anti-Poverty Plan

    07/24/2014 3:24:26 PM PDT · 29 of 39
    chajin to all the best
    Poverty is the negation of wealth.

    Poverty is the negation of the willingness to act in ways that are likely to obtain sufficient wealth. Being poor can be overcome by an infusion of wealth, but poverty can only be overcome by an infusion of motivation to succeed.

  • Here’s What’s in Paul Ryan’s Anti-Poverty Plan

    07/24/2014 3:22:45 PM PDT · 28 of 39
    chajin to conservaKate
    Still takes two to make a baby.

    Barring various forms of cloning and fertilization, you are correct :-) Seriously, my point, which I made too simplistically, is that, as unfortunate as it may be, women are the ones who have to stand for their own personal morality, if for no other reason than "baby mamas" (regardless of race) who are not married to their progenitor-partners, or at least someone who is willing to act in loco patris as an adoptive father, are the instigators of unnecessary poverty, actively promoted by a government system of welfare that rewards single parenthood and lack of education, rather than allowing society to stigmatize voluntary single parenthood and/or lack of minimal education.

  • Here’s What’s in Paul Ryan’s Anti-Poverty Plan

    07/24/2014 3:15:29 PM PDT · 25 of 39
    chajin to stanne
    You want to go in and educate them and the boys as well, about proper civilized behavior and free market capitalism and waiting until marriage with a visible means of support?
    And take away government subsidies for out of wedlock birth as well as abortion

    Yes, and yes.

  • Disenchanted with Putin, some Russians vote with their feet

    07/24/2014 2:55:55 PM PDT · 2 of 5
    chajin to Tailgunner Joe

    If 2/3 of the middle class are working for the government, how is that any different from Marxist socialism?

  • Here’s What’s in Paul Ryan’s Anti-Poverty Plan

    07/24/2014 2:52:22 PM PDT · 19 of 39
    chajin to BenLurkin
    "The only way to end poverty is for poor people unmarried high school dropout women to stop having children."

    Fixed it.

  • The Dungy Dogpile: Revered NFL coach causes media gay hysteria in a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    07/24/2014 2:48:53 PM PDT · 6 of 45
    chajin to SeekAndFind

    He was a man of honor as the Buccaneers coach, and again as the Colts coach, and again when he gave up coaching for ministry. Matthew 5:11-12 applies here.

  • Senator Says He Had PTSD When He Wrote Thesis

    07/23/2014 4:28:33 PM PDT · 25 of 65
    chajin to BradyLS
    A shameless, selfish, and slovenly shyster shamelessly shills his sick, sad, and sorry self into sweet, secure sinecure through sinister scholarly shenanigans.

    An adorable alliterationist!

  • Senator Says He Had PTSD When He Wrote Thesis

    07/23/2014 4:27:33 PM PDT · 23 of 65
    chajin to Oldeconomybuyer

    As a general rule, it is usually fairly obvious whether a written submission in college is a purposeful plagiarism or an unintentional omission of a citation. In Walsh’s case, it was clearly purposeful.

    The Senator should feel the effects of this, but also the thesis committee of the War College: this was done in 2007, long after Turnitin.com was available, so it would have taken five minutes and a laptop to check the thesis.

  • Tampa Bay Rays Pitcher Believes He Has Contracted Chikungunya

    07/23/2014 4:14:02 PM PDT · 2 of 13
    chajin to nickcarraway

    Peralta’s already on the 15-day DL. He “thinks” he has chikungunya, which is not the same as actually having it...

  • Muslims in Miami Scream: 'We Are Hamas'

    07/23/2014 11:32:12 AM PDT · 16 of 44
    chajin to LeoWindhorse
    “From-the-River-to-the-Sea, Palestine-will-be-Free.”

    This is true. Unfortunately for the chanters, "free" means "unimpeded Star of David access, backed by Son of David authority." Until that happens, chanters will continue to delude themselves that it means something else.

  • Responding to “Spiritual but Not Religious” Christians

    07/23/2014 10:50:36 AM PDT · 44 of 176
    chajin to NKP_Vet
    There is no such thing as the “Roman” Catholic Church.

    That's true, since most Catholic churches stay in the same place...

    (The way my grandson eats noodles I think he's going to become a Ramen Catholic, but I digress.)

  • Responding to “Spiritual but Not Religious” Christians

    07/23/2014 10:46:40 AM PDT · 43 of 176
    chajin to NKP_Vet

    AFAICS, there are two different versions of “spiritual but not religious” Christians, with very different motivations and desires.

    The first group consists of, to use Bellah’s term, Sheilaists. They want to believe what they want to believe, whether or not the Scripture teaches it, whether or not Christianity teaches it. They tend to be theologically and politically leftist, but they don’t see any need to spend time and money in any specific leftist denomination (ELCA, PCUSA, most UMC, etc.).

    The second group is very different. What you often hear from the second group is that they want “a relationship, not a religion,” meaning they want an experiential rather than a liturgical approach to their faith.

    Herein lies the dilemma. Let’s be honest: most liturgical services are formulaic, and can quickly become a dry habit. For example, I would be afraid to count the number of times I have recited the Creed, or the Lord’s Prayer, or sung the Gloria or the Sanctus, gotten to the end of it, and realized that I had done it mindlessly: I hadn’t purposefully offered it to God, and I hadn’t thought of the possibility of any response from God, I had just said what I said without thinking and without really meaning it—I hadn’t *not* meant it, I simply did it because that was what one did at that point in the service.

    The liturgy, at its best (and I mean that in a positive sense), is a connection to the great cloud of witnesses, to the church throughout the ages, (as I put it in my lessons) from St. Clement to Kim Clement, all gathered before the Throne in praise, worship, adoration, desire for reconciliation and closeness, petition for the saints both present and future, to feel His presence, hear from His Spirit, receive blessings from His hand, and join Him in the wedding rehearsal dinner where He gives Himself to us.

    But that is the liturgy at its best. For most Catholics, Lutherans, Episcopalians, Methodists, etc. at most times, it is instead a dry ritual, something that you do because The Church Boss says you’re supposed to do it. Now, to be fair, all of the above have attempted over the centuries to generate a desire for the experience of God within and beyond the liturgy. In the 20th century, for example, the Cursillo movement in all its various iterations (Emmaus, Tres Dias, Kairos, etc.) aided in bringing the presence of God into the work and worship of parishioners, even though one of its unintended effects was to bring about a separation between insiders and outsiders, those who had the experience and were therefore closer to God, and those who hadn’t.

    To be frank, the liturgical churches have done a poor job of ensuring the experience of the divine presence in the daily/weekly practice of worship—but to be equally frank, the experiential churches have done a poor job of ensuring the sense of the historical drama of the faith, and how that leads inexorably to the present drama of the faith. To put it another way, liturgical churches connect people to the churches of the past without effectively providing the experience of I AM, the God of the eternal present, while experiential churches provide the experience of the I AM while creating the heinous illusion that God has been waiting 2000 years for churches filled with people who really want to know Him, and that it’s only now that He has them.

    Personally, I desire to be one of those who bring out of their storehouses treasures both new and old. Will we ever form such a church before the Marriage Supper?

  • Greek Orthodox Church in Gaza Shelters Muslims Fleeing War

    07/22/2014 8:07:48 PM PDT · 2 of 7
    chajin to marshmallow

    The IDF tells these families to flee, and the Orthodox alone take them in. People who talk about “moral equivalence” between us and them are fools.

  • George Harrison tree is felled by beetles

    07/22/2014 3:31:41 PM PDT · 9 of 28
    chajin to dware

    While his guitar gently weeps...

  • Hillary's silence is deafening

    07/22/2014 10:51:59 AM PDT · 19 of 23
    chajin to stanne
    But, really, they are Marie and Frank Barone

    No, they're FDR and Eleanor, if FDR had lived longer, and Eleanor had decided to "do" Federal office rather than the UN.

  • The Bible isn't the word of God. It contains the word of God

    07/22/2014 4:52:30 AM PDT · 95 of 103
    chajin to mlo
    I missed the part where Jesus said it was OK to eat bacon now.

    "And [Jesus] said to them, “Then are you also without understanding? Do you not see that whatever goes into a person from outside cannot defile him, since it enters not his heart but his stomach, and is expelled?” Thus he declared all foods clean." Mark 7:18-19 (ESV)

  • The Bible isn't the word of God. It contains the word of God

    07/21/2014 8:22:02 PM PDT · 85 of 103
    chajin to mlo
    Or having to kill witches, or having multiple wives, or slaves, or not eating bacon, or killing your child for denying god, etc., etc.

    Since I have to get up at 4 AM tomorrow, which is about five hours from now, I will only deal with two of these, maybe three.

    First, slavery. As a general rule, the Bible discourages but does not prohibit slavery. In Torah (the Jewish law), a person may sell him/herself into indentured servanthood for a period of time (usually seven years) to pay off debts, and can choose to remain a slave after that if s/he desires, but there are a host of regulations concerning how all of this is done, which are designed to protect the person entering into the indenture or slavery. Since people generally did not work for monetary pay unless they were day laborers, anyone who was an "employee" was essentially working in return for room and board, which is essentially the effect of slavery. In Greco-Roman times, most professionals were "slaves," in that they worked for a member of the nobility and had no say in what they received, how they were treated, or whether they could quit. It was to this situation that the Epistles discuss the idea of how one should, as a master, treat a slave, or how one should work for a master as a slave, and the general rule is, the master treats the slave the way he would treat himself, and the slave works for the master as if working for God—whether or not the master happened to be Christian or non-Christian, nice or mean. Paul also states at one point that if a person is able to purchase his/her way out of slavery, the person should do so. None of which has anything to do with the heinous practices associated with slavery in the antebellum US, or the way slavery is practiced throughout most of the world: the Bible clearly considers such slavery to be unjust, because of the way the slave is both measured (as being less than human) and treated.

    Second, having multiple wives. Polygamy is only part of a general issue, which is what God desired marriage to be. The clue to this is found in Matthew 19, where Jesus discusses divorce, that God allowed it in Torah because of sklerokardia. When Nathan berates David for having taken Bathsheba, he attributes God as saying that if, among other things, David thought he didn't have enough wives, all he had to do was ask for them, and he would have obtained more (II Sam. 12:8), but that would also have demonstrated sklerokardia, because David's heart would not have been open to his present wife(s). The Bible clearly has a view as to what marriage is supposed to be, and both polygamy and divorce were concessions to the hard-heartedness of humans before Christ--concessions that are no longer acceptable, because there is no excuse, with the Holy Spirit in our hearts, for hard-heartedness.

    OK, bacon. Why God banned bacon in Torah is something we could discuss at another time, though it isn't too much of a stretch to assume that a God who was smart enough to create the universe would be smart enough to know about trichinosis--nevertheless, it is evident that it is one of the many ways that the Hebrews were to differentiate themselves from the Gentiles. However, the ban is lifted by Christ, both in His own teachings and in those of the disciples, and the reason is also clear: the differentiation was no longer necessary, because in Christ there is no distinction between Jew and Gentile, between slave and free, between male and female--each has a position, but ontologically there is no longer any difference, because in Christ they are all part of one body, the church.

  • The Bible isn't the word of God. It contains the word of God

    07/21/2014 4:38:40 PM PDT · 61 of 103
    chajin to Mrs. Don-o
    Now you're talking about 14 books of Apocrypha, and I'm curious what those 14 books would be

    http://www.cph.org/pdf/012065.pdf

  • The Bible isn't the word of God. It contains the word of God

    07/21/2014 4:15:32 PM PDT · 54 of 103
    chajin to boatbums
    action at the counter-Reformation

    I was going to join in the counter reformation, but when I saw the price of the granite slabs it was more than my budget could handle, so I stuck with the original linoleum.

    (Yes, he's trying to lighten it up here)

  • The Bible isn't the word of God. It contains the word of God

    07/21/2014 3:21:31 PM PDT · 53 of 103
    chajin to Seven_0
    Didn’t Moses pen the first five books?

    Moses probably didn't have a pen :-) OTOH, Joseph was stuck in the pen for maybe seven years...

  • The Bible isn't the word of God. It contains the word of God

    07/21/2014 3:20:15 PM PDT · 52 of 103
    chajin to Mrs. Don-o
    Looking at my lectionary, the answer is "yes, mostly."

    It seems to be not so much on Sundays, but sometimes, particularly the ones I would expect. FWIW, Lutheran Bibles (I'm LCMS) included the 14 books until the churches in the US started using English language Bibles, maybe 100 years ago or so. In 2012 the denomination printed them once again, cf. here. And thank you for a quick response!

  • ‘Even Genghis Khan didn’t do this’: Mosul emptied of Christians (leave money, gold, jewelry)

    07/21/2014 2:04:13 PM PDT · 5 of 13
    chajin to NYer

    Nehmen sie den Leib,
    Gut, Ehr’, Kind und Weib:
    Lass fahren dahin,
    Sie haben’s kein’n Gewinn,
    Das Reich muss uns doch bleiben!

    When it happens here, may we remain as strong in the gospel. Father, keep them safe as the apple of Your eye, protected in the palm of Your hand.

  • The Bible isn't the word of God. It contains the word of God

    07/21/2014 12:29:07 PM PDT · 22 of 103
    chajin to Mrs. Don-o
    And as for those who had split from "Catholic," who exactly gave them the authority to subtract books from the Canon?

    I have a question, which is not rhetorical but honest: is any of the Apocrypha ever part of the weekly lectionary in the RC or various Orthodox churches?