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Posts by cizinec

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  • Gun silencer sales are soaring

    07/31/2015 6:26:27 AM PDT · 54 of 58
    cizinec to aragorn

    I’m not sure his replacement is much better, but I’ll send an email and let you know how his office responds.

  • Gun silencer sales are soaring

    07/30/2015 2:48:40 PM PDT · 37 of 58
    cizinec to aragorn

    Seeing as how we’re both in Oklahoma, which senator?

  • Boehner unlikely to golf again with Obama

    07/29/2015 12:31:26 PM PDT · 26 of 32
    cizinec to Cincinatus' Wife
    I don't mind if they get together and golf, as long as it's Rick Perry golf.

    Man Golf

  • Wanted: Small-Government Republicans [And Nope, Trump Is Not One Of Them]

    07/29/2015 7:44:36 AM PDT · 24 of 26
    cizinec to SeekAndFind

    Apparently neither did God. But hey, some people know better. Go figure.

  • Wanted: Small-Government Republicans [And Nope, Trump Is Not One Of Them]

    07/29/2015 7:43:03 AM PDT · 23 of 26
    cizinec to Kartographer


    So I have to vote for a Serbian Orthodox candidate who goes to confession weekly and has a degree in theology . . . who also believes in limited government. That limits my choices.

    Or does it only count if they are qualified to be a deacon in YOUR church?

  • Pope calls unfettered capitalism 'the dung of the devil'

    07/10/2015 8:05:06 AM PDT · 93 of 187
    cizinec to CondorFlight

    “That this comes from ignorance, and not malice . . .”

    In the age of information, ignorance requires malice.

  • The U.S. Air Force Promised the F-4 Would Never Dogfight: Now it’s saying the same thing about [tr]

    07/07/2015 9:05:34 AM PDT · 24 of 51
    cizinec to bmwcyle

    If they put a PT belt on it, no one could shoot it down.

  • The secret meeting where Ted Cruz argued that the right should unite behind him and [Truncated]

    06/10/2015 11:34:08 AM PDT · 23 of 65
    cizinec to Diogenesis

    I think it will be interesting to hear a debate between Senators Paul and Cruz. Paul will challenge Cruz on the particulars of issues related to freedom (secret courts, secret deals, presidential powers, what a limited federal government means in practice) and Cruz will challenge Paul on foreign policy issues (when is force justified, what is America’s role in world affairs, etc.)

    I think explanations from both candidates will be far more revealing than what some their opponents have painted. I think Libertarians are going to be disappointed with Paul and Law and Order Republicans will be disappointed with Cruz.

    I find both of these candidates to be the two most interesting. The rest are cookie cutter candidates who will do and say whatever they think they need to do or say to get elected.

  • Mom who uses medical marijuana faces up to 30 years in prison

    06/09/2015 10:11:19 AM PDT · 17 of 59
    cizinec to VRWCarea51

    ” Everyone I know that wanted one found a Doctor Feel Good to prescribe it.”

    And everyone you know is a representative sample of how it is being used in Michigan . . . which would still have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with this case.

    “There is also a caregiver portion of the law that lets the tokers grow enough to sell to other shall we say “inflicted” persons.”

    So you are saying someone with Crohn’s disease is “inflicted” and they don’t have a REAL disease.

  • Texas-Sized Tax Cut: Governor Abbott Signs Total Relief Tax Package Of $3.8 Billion

    06/09/2015 6:27:26 AM PDT · 5 of 11
    cizinec to Wolfie

    “Sound like Texas is flush. Guess they won’t be needing that Federal flood aid after all.”

    That is quite the statement.

    Texas may or may not be “flush.” They may just believe that by lowering their tax RATE they will attract more businesses to relocate, thus increasing their tax BASE resulting in greater revenues.

    You add the concept that, since they are “flush” they should not get the same return of their federal taxes paid as, say, California for its drought, since Texas more wisely managed its budget and it does not, therefore, “need” the flood aid. Texans get flood aid from the feds because they pay federal taxes, not because they squandered their money on luxuries and stupidity and can’t afford to weather a simple crisis.

  • Holy Warriors of the Left and Right

    05/27/2015 3:43:53 PM PDT · 10 of 10
    cizinec to Kaslin

    She must have seen a whole lot of space between those lines in this article.

  • Holy Warriors of the Left and Right

    05/27/2015 10:35:17 AM PDT · 7 of 10
    cizinec to donna

    ” this is an anti-God piece “

    I read it. Quotes to support your opinion, please.

  • Lawsuit:IKEA to blame for dresser's deadly tip-over

    05/26/2015 3:53:59 PM PDT · 14 of 40
    cizinec to Kid Shelleen

    Go to

    Show me one of these dressers that does not include either a securing strap or wall bracket in the hardware list. Show me one that doesn’t have the tipping warning showing how to install the strap or bracket.

    I would make a statement like, “Whatta I have ta do, draw ya a picture?” But that’s exactly what Ikea did and it still didn’t fix stupid.

    Maybe she had the store assemble it for her and they failed to give her the hardware and instructions. Maybe. I’m very suspicious of this one.

  • Why do girls have a right to genital integrity, but not boys?

    05/26/2015 10:49:32 AM PDT · 75 of 100
    cizinec to Rodamala

    Don’t waste your time arguing with these Romneyites. It’s a frustratingly useless waste of time.

  • Why do girls have a right to genital integrity, but not boys?

    05/26/2015 10:47:48 AM PDT · 74 of 100
    cizinec to CharlesOConnell

    Ummm . . . yes it is.

    You made the claim, you have to support.

    Person 1: “Big Foot is real!”
    Person 2: “Where is you evidence?”
    Person 1: “The burden of proof isn’t on me!”

    F- in logic.

  • Why Children Are Abandoning Baseball

    05/21/2015 11:41:28 AM PDT · 100 of 145
    cizinec to Mr Rogers

    I remember my first glove. I got it for Christmas. It was a real sacrifice for my folks, too. I think I still have that glove somewhere. I could play without worrying about my fingers.

  • Why Children Are Abandoning Baseball

    05/21/2015 11:39:44 AM PDT · 99 of 145
    cizinec to Let's Roll

    LOL. Sure do. My kids have no idea. I would teach it to them, but no one here plays disorganized baseball.

  • Why Children Are Abandoning Baseball

    05/21/2015 6:26:20 AM PDT · 37 of 145
    cizinec to X-spurt

    “If a kid is not taken to baseball games, especially Pro or Semi-pro, they never pick up the game. “

    That’s your government funded baseball stadium talking. Kids won’t pick up the game if they don’t play it with their friends and find it fun. I NEVER went to a pro game as a kid, and we all loved the game because everybody played it.

  • Why Children Are Abandoning Baseball

    05/21/2015 6:23:49 AM PDT · 32 of 145
    cizinec to GrootheWanderer

    I played baseball with my friends on the corner. No uniforms or leagues were required. Few of us were in a league. Expenses were: cheap glove, one of the kids had to have a bat.

    Adults killed baseball when they decided kids were too stupid to do it on their own.

  • Why Children Are Abandoning Baseball

    05/21/2015 6:20:43 AM PDT · 29 of 145
    cizinec to BlueStateRightist

    I have four kids. They have all been in BJJ for years. A lot of kids are doing BJJ, Judo and other martial arts.

    I played baseball. It is not harder to master baseball than BJJ or Judo.

    The reason baseball is dying has nothing to do with the game, which I love, and everything to do with over-organization and regulation and protection by parents and governments.

    For my kids to play baseball the way I did, by riding their bikes down to the field, figuring out new rules to make up for missing players, etc., they risk being picked up by the police and being put in a foster home because we let them play on their own.

    I took my kids to Hefner Park here in OKC with my wife. I was getting ready for a ruck and they were riding their bikes. I gave the kids a radio so I could reach them at any time and they could call in any issues they had. Guess who caused an issue? Two old ladies who were threatening to call the police if they didn’t see us in five minutes. I got there in time and told the hags off. My kids weren’t doing anything wrong and they were being very polite.

    There was an empty baseball diamond right across from where these fat hags were sitting. Imagine if they had found a whole field full of kids playing. Baseball was popular because it was what we did as kids with other kids.

    There is no freedom in baseball here in OKC. I imagine that is similar elsewhere.

  • The Greatest Water Crisis In The History Of The United States

    05/13/2015 8:40:06 PM PDT · 78 of 81
    cizinec to vette6387

    You don’t feed us, but y’all sure love our oil and gas and electricity. Not that you don’t have any. Your idiot politicians just won’t let you develop it.

    When we were down, y’all posted guards at the border to keep your fellow citizens out. Then you let Mexicans enter illegally, giving them free checks and free rides, and in your first post you had the audacity to blame Southerners for YOUR crap! Now that you can’t pay for it, “we’re all tied together.” We’ll always be able to get your fruits and nuts. We have the energy you need. We actually grow a great deal of wheat, corn, beef and chicken (and ship it to your hole). We can get fruits and nuts from Texas and South America.

    So as long as you need us to bail you out, it’s kumbaya, mah Lord, we’re in it together. When we need help, it’s Okie and Arkie jokes, work camps and beatings. How about you sit in the nest you messed in and we’ll keep what we’ve WORKED for.

    You want to blame Southerners for California’s problems? Then why, pray tell, are we banking while you go bankrupt? You’ll probably be crying like a baby for income “redistribution” among the states next.

  • The Greatest Water Crisis In The History Of The United States

    05/13/2015 12:10:24 PM PDT · 69 of 81
    cizinec to vette6387
    But hey, California is such a nice place, why go back to the South where the weather is the $hits, right.

    I'm sure it was nice in the 60s. My folks grew up in Oregon in the late 50s and early 60s and they say similar things. HOWEVER, their parents were from Oklahoma. They moved west because they wanted to WORK. The overwhelming majority went west to WORK. When they got to the Garden of Eden, California had illegally and unconstitutionally set up road blocks not allowing my family in, abusing and collecting legal US citizens.

    So my grandfather, a Field Artillery vet, went to Oregon and worked as a logger until he was 65. Well, except for the time he fought in Europe. Yes, he rejoined the day after Pearl Harbor. My parents, sick of the left coast, moved us back to Oklahoma when I was 10.

    California has been setting ITSELF up to fail. Don't blame "Southerners" for YOUR problems (unless you mean the "Southerners" y'all let in that *aren't* citizens - make that make sense). Have you seen Oklahoma, Arkansas and Texas lately? Sure, the Oklahoma economy isn't as big is yours, but ours isn't broke. So don't blame us and our culture for California's historic and continuous anti-Constitutional stupidity.

    BTW, our weather is just fine. The greatest outbreak of tornados couldn't do the damage to the economy of Oklahoma what your politicians have done to yours. Oh yeah, and we have WATER here. California has and always has had a Californian problem, not a "too many Southerners" problem.

  • Designer of 3-D-printed gun challenges feds to Constitutional duel

    05/07/2015 7:45:24 PM PDT · 35 of 40
    cizinec to Olog-hai

    “Well, that’s why governments want “net neutrality” just for starters. An internet they control means an internet over which they control the content.”

    Net neutrality is pointless. Those who want information will acquire and disseminate it. Those who wish to acquire the forbidden will find the knowledge and equipment to manufacture it themselves. It’s merely a question of cost.

    Governments can only punish a few and are incapable of stopping the majority of those who choose to do things their government dislikes. All governmental attempts to suppress information will be a futile, wasteful and destructive exercise in futility.

    I do not believe the point of this project was to produce a working firearm that could be printed and used by anyone everywhere, it was to prove that no government anywhere could stop someone within their jurisdiction from doing it and sharing that knowledge with whomever they will. It was to prove that the power of central governments do not exist to the extent these governments would have us believe.

    Whether the loss of that power makes a citizen fearful or hopeful is irrelevant. The loss is real and has been demonstrated.

  • New, Scary Street Drug Called Flakka or ‘$5 Insanity’ on Rise in U.S.

    05/07/2015 7:20:31 PM PDT · 2 of 94
    cizinec to nickcarraway

    “The drug spikes a user’s body temperature to dangerous levels, gives them paranoid hallucinations and makes them incredibly strong.”

    Sounds like fun. Why the (#$*%&(@#*& do people ingest this crap? If you need an adventure, I can tell you fifty ways to have one. This ain’t it.

  • Designer of 3-D-printed gun challenges feds to Constitutional duel

    05/07/2015 10:31:37 AM PDT · 7 of 40
    cizinec to Olog-hai

    It doesn’t matter if voters or governments like what he’s doing. It doesn’t matter what the law says. It doesn’t matter if the information turns out to be good. It doesn’t matter if the information is damaging.

    The truth is, “you can’t stop the signal.”

    May as well pass a law saying the earth is flat and put folks in prison for demonstrating it’s not. It’s pointless.

    Dear governments everywhere, welcome to the new reality.

  • School serves 6-year-old meat to TN students

    04/30/2015 3:36:12 PM PDT · 47 of 58
    cizinec to cyclotic

    “I ate a 17 year old MRE last year. Still breathing.”

    Yeah, but which one?

  • UPDATE: Law enforcement sources say Freddie Gray suffered head injury in police transport van

    04/30/2015 3:28:51 PM PDT · 38 of 47
    cizinec to shadeaud

    I’ll be one of two people in America that does this weird thing: wait for the facts and, if applicable, a Grand Jury and Jury to sort it out.

    It’s called the “Rule of Law.” I’ve noticed a lot of folks both in Baltimore and on this site seem to have forgotten the whole Due Process thing when they have a political point to make.

  • 'Tolerant' liberals start insulting Bruce Jenner when he says he's conservative

    04/28/2015 12:56:32 PM PDT · 53 of 54
    cizinec to GeronL

    If they supported Cruz for president, would you then oppose Cruz?

  • 'Tolerant' liberals start insulting Bruce Jenner when he says he's conservative

    04/28/2015 6:34:34 AM PDT · 51 of 54
    cizinec to GeronL

    I wouldn’t know. I’ve never met the guy. He was willing to take a huge hit to say he was conservate, so I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he leans conservative on some issues and that he feels strongly about it.

    If, say, he were to state he was supporting Cruz for president, I wouldn’t be upset about it. How many guys supporting Cruz have drinking problems? How many have cheated on their spouse? Jenner’s warts are on his face for all to see. So what?

    Maybe, just maybe, you can believe in individual liberty and the Constitution and still make ridiculously bad decisions in your personal life.

  • 'Tolerant' liberals start insulting Bruce Jenner when he says he's conservative

    04/27/2015 3:07:52 PM PDT · 16 of 54
    cizinec to GeronL

    Don’t know. Never met the guy.

    If he’s “only” fiscally conservative, would you be fiscally liberal on an issue just to avoid being on the same side as one of these people, or does everyone have to pass the GeronL purity test before they’re allowed to right about anything?

  • Florida Man Flicks Off Cops in a ‘Tank.’ They Quickly Pull Him Over (Video)

    04/15/2015 6:38:56 AM PDT · 36 of 53
    cizinec to LearnsFromMistakes

    I take it your friend didn’t take an oath to uphold and defend the constitutions of his state or the United States.

    If he did, he knowingly violated that oath. To you and him, it’s a cute story on how to forcibly punish someone for something they KNOW to be constitutionally protected speech, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT WE AGREE WITH THAT SPEECH.

    To me it is treason and no less than the behavior the British used to use on the King’s subjects in the colonies. I wouldn’t engage in that type of behavior and I would chastise anyone who did. I wouldn’t waste my integrity on “punishing” them either.

  • What kind of coffee maker do you use?

    04/14/2015 10:52:17 AM PDT · 60 of 161
    cizinec to Noumenon
    Chemex, for the win.

    ^ This.

    I roast my coffee. I use either a La San Marco 85-16M (costs a lot), a bodhum stainless press or, most often, a Chemex. It's inexpensive and extracts great coffee. You can always get a permanent filter if you tire of dealing with paper.

  • Bosnia: Muslim attacks Jewish leader with weighted chain as leader was being interviewed about

    04/06/2015 11:04:37 AM PDT · 8 of 11
    cizinec to TheConservator
    in which the Christian Serbs were the agressors, and had the city under siege.

    There's one born every minute.

  • Sea Lion Bites Man, Pulls Him Underwater at Mission Bay Marina

    04/06/2015 10:39:04 AM PDT · 6 of 7
    cizinec to nickcarraway

    Was the guy’s name Buster?

  • Border patrol Tasered 25-year-old in his car - and the vehicle burst into flames

    04/01/2015 6:28:57 AM PDT · 14 of 24
    cizinec to DaveA37

    Okay, then tell us, oh enlightened one, the “rest of the story.”

    How, for instance, did they manage to “record over” the video? That seems very odd to me.

  • Biden: American Jews Can Only Rely on Israel, Not US

    03/30/2015 3:17:11 PM PDT · 15 of 72
    cizinec to miss marmelstein

    No one with any sense “count(s) on the United States government as the ultimate guarantor of their freedom and safety.” We get our freedom from our creator and the Constitution is its guarantor. Anyone looking for “safety” or another “guarantor” is deluded.

  • Ayn Rand and Murray Rothbard: The Verdict after Fifty Years

    03/24/2015 12:29:55 PM PDT · 24 of 29
    cizinec to Rebel_Ace

    That last paragraph puts four criteria on when it’s okay for me to give. I don’t need the goddess Rand to tell me how to spend my money.

    I give to whomever and whatever I want, whenever I want for whatever reason I want because I made the money and it’s none of her or your *#(@*% business what I do with it.

    That’s freedom, FYI, not some fake thing where I have to PROVE my reasoning for exercising my rights to some commissar.

  • Ayn Rand and Murray Rothbard: The Verdict after Fifty Years

    03/24/2015 9:18:31 AM PDT · 16 of 29
    cizinec to Rebel_Ace

    No, she pretty much painted anyone who did anything to help others as suckers.

    I prefer Rose Wilder Lane. Rand is over-rated and Lane treated as a character from Little House on the Prairie, which is to our loss. Read The Discovery of Freedom.

    Rand definitely used the shock factor and got more TV time thanks to her bizarre penchant for denigrating people of faith and members of the military, something the media liked to play up. Sure, she did it with a sort of “bless your heart” kind of language, but she did it. I think this may stem from the fact that Rand was a Russian immigrant who did not fully enjoy the experience of America.

    Lane, however, was a product of the “wild west” and had grown up in the practice of freedom, as can be read in the Little House series. Her views are much more mature and less boring Old World/Russian Radical atheism.

  • Why “Progressives” Favor the State Over Society

    03/18/2015 8:25:49 AM PDT · 9 of 10
    cizinec to annalex


  • Why “Progressives” Favor the State Over Society

    03/18/2015 8:24:49 AM PDT · 8 of 10
    cizinec to MrB

    “The progs can feel like they are morally superior for advocating that the State “do something”, then just go about their merry way without ACTUALLY DOING anything at all.”

    Or worse yet, having the opposite effect of what they claim to want (better environment, higher pay, lower unemployment, greater health care coverage . . .)

  • Why “Progressives” Favor the State Over Society

    03/18/2015 6:55:09 AM PDT · 4 of 10
    cizinec to NYer

    What a bizarre, disjointed argument. So the Progressives support the state to enforce individual liberty? I don’t think so. “The state exists simply to facilitate the moral will of the individual.” That’s not at all what the progressives argue. Their sole purpose when created was to argue against laissez-faire government. This author is clamoring for MORE government, just on particular issues.

    This author argues that populism is great (so long as it meets his definition of what’s great, otherwise it’s progressive and evil). If you let the majority (society, as the author puts it) determine what is moral and enforce that morality by the power of the state, you WILL end up with progressivism.

    In a democracy, the society IS the state. But we don’t have a democracy, we have a REPUBLIC, where the individual can expect protection from society and the state. At least we used to.

    Progressives hate the individual and hate laissez-faire government. They want populist collectivism, no individuals required. This author appears to agree with them in theory, just not in application.

  • St Patrick the (almost) Protestant Missionary

    03/14/2015 5:20:16 PM PDT · 8 of 100
    cizinec to RnMomof7

    This is pure fantasy.

    Certainly, St. Patrick most likely practiced Christianity in the style of both Roman Britain and France, as he was tonsured in Southern France.

    Patrick wasn’t “formally” canonized by the Latins because there was no such process at the time of St. Patrick’s life and he was accepted as a saint before the process was created by the Bishop of Rome in the 13th Century, 700 years after St. Patrick went to Ireland. That argument would remove the overwhelming majority of saints from the Roman Catholic calendar. I find it humorous the Protestants feel the need to make up pretend rules for Roman Catholics, and they have quite a few that are very ridiculous. You don’t need to make up fake ones.

    St. Patrick is also in the rubrics of most Eastern Orthodox churches, as he was a saint before Rome’s schism.

    Concerning Celtic Christianity, claiming it was more Protestant is patently false, although it was quite different from the practices imposed later by Rome. As all liturgical and traditional practices, it also developed over time and was not an invention by St. Patrick. This included a calculation for the date of Easter that differed from both Rome and the other patriarchates. Humorously, Protestants still date Easter (Pascha) on the calculations of Rome, not the Eastern churches and certainly not using the Insular Christian tradition.

    So please don’t go around saying he was actually Protestant, when he was clearly nothing of the sort. I would be curious to know from this author if he followed Calvin or Arminius, who both live a millennia after St. Patrick died.

    Believe what you believe based on what you know to be true. If you need to find “proof” of your rightness by inventing a fantasy past or fabricating rules for other churches, you’re probably wrong and you probably know it.

  • Could Scott Walker Be the Next Calvin Coolidge?

    03/13/2015 5:13:28 AM PDT · 33 of 52
    cizinec to 9YearLurker

    ROFLOL. Anyone who has worked for or met the Kochs know they are many, many things. GOPe? That’s not one of them.

  • "The Last Valley" Best Post-SHTF Movie Ever

    02/25/2015 6:15:39 AM PST · 25 of 120
    cizinec to Travis McGee

    ping 4 l8r

  • Racism at Rush game....

    01/31/2015 5:16:25 AM PST · 2 of 5
    cizinec to WhiskeyX

    Throwing beer on and threatening 9-13 year olds. Classy, even for a hockey game.

  • Cops Shutdown High School Kids Trying to Earn Money by Shoveling Snow

    01/29/2015 9:09:15 AM PST · 89 of 112
    cizinec to old and tired

    That argument cuts both ways.

    I don’t know of any jurisdiction that doesn’t have trespess laws. You can go to wall mart and pick up your no solicitation sign without passing a law. That’s my approach: assert your property rights on your own property.

    Passing a law that allows no solicitation anywhere forces your opinion about who you want on your property onto others’ property. Unless you bought every house in your jurisdiction, you just limited other peoples’ right to allow neighbor kids to offer services they might want.

    Let’s be clear about the law in question here as well. This law didn’t ban solicitation. It required a payment of a fee that irritating businesses and charlatans can afford, but neighborhood kids can’t. So who, exactly, is this law protecting, the property owner? I don’t think so.

  • Cops Shutdown High School Kids Trying to Earn Money by Shoveling Snow

    01/29/2015 6:17:23 AM PST · 39 of 112
    cizinec to old and tired

    ” but having strangers knock on the door can be scary. “

    My grandma found driving scary. She never got a license and didn’t like anyone driving. Since driving can be scary, it should be BANNED.

  • Cops Shutdown High School Kids Trying to Earn Money by Shoveling Snow

    01/29/2015 6:15:52 AM PST · 37 of 112
    cizinec to WhiskeyX

    And we’d all be safer if our government would only be more like Cuba. I also like your (ab)use of an anecdote. It goes along the logic of, “A Roman Catholic priest abused a kid, therefore, the Roman Catholic Church must be banned.” You don’t look at individual culpability, you try to “fix” one event by assuming all other events will follow that pattern, no matter how anomalous and no matter how absurd the consequences of that “fix” become.

    “Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.” -Franklin

    “If you love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.” -Sam Adams

  • Oklahoma lawmaker's 'clergy only' policy for marriage licenses aimed at stopping same-sex unions

    01/26/2015 11:12:06 AM PST · 20 of 23
    cizinec to IronJack
    No, the answer is to separate marriage into its secular and sacred dimensions

    And the secular ones are called "partnerships." There are plenty of laws concerning the formation and dissolution of partnerships. I don't care if it has 20 people.

    The state can neither make nor dissolve a marriage. The state does not have that capacity, regardless of the number of laws we pass. We can pass a law saying the Earth is flat, the universe is 2 Kilometers by 2 Kilometers, we're drinking free bubble up and eating our rainbow stew. That doesn't make it so. Popular opinion, even when put to a vote, does not govern the universe.

  • Oklahoma lawmaker's 'clergy only' policy for marriage licenses aimed at stopping same-sex unions

    01/26/2015 11:05:11 AM PST · 19 of 23
    cizinec to C19fan
    I've read that Amendment a few times.

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

    I don't see where it says, "States shall provide civil marriages."