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  • I DETEST THIS FILM ..WITH A PASSION [Christopher Hitchens on the Passion of the Christ]

    02/27/2004 8:01:00 AM PST · 328 of 470
    Clintons a commie to ejdrapes
    Hitchens hated Mother Theresa, and ran hateful hit pieces about her in the early nineties. He's an anti-Catholic and anti-Christian bigot. He has had some worthy things to say about the Clinton impeachment and after 9/11, but this piece just goes to show he hasn't really changed his stripes.

    Not liking the movie is one thing. Calling Gibson and the millions of people-mostly Conservative Catholics and Evangelicals-hateful names is another thing entirely.

    This is probably Hitchens way of trying to get back in a little bit with the crowd who has dissed him since his Clinton and 9/11 opinions.

  • Hubby might be dying...need your prayers

    02/26/2004 8:19:48 PM PST · 68 of 253
    Clintons a commie to ETERNAL WARMING
    Just offered some prayers. God is good, He'll strengthen and comfort you, and hopefully heal your husband.
  • Zeffirelli Brands Mel Gibson's Passion Anti-Semitic; Calls Director “Bloodthirsty”

    02/26/2004 5:10:09 PM PST · 30 of 44
    Clintons a commie to keithtoo
    Zeferelli is himself Jewish, so it is not as if he is dissinteresteed

    Actually, Zefirelli is Catholic. His autobiography was interesting reading; he returned to the Church after having a dream about St. Francis(which prompted him to make BROTHER SUN,SISTER MOON). Maybe he's going senile.

  • Zeffirelli Brands Mel Gibson's Passion Anti-Semitic; Calls Director “Bloodthirsty”

    02/26/2004 5:07:11 PM PST · 28 of 44
    Clintons a commie to what's up
    Herod the Great was a real creep as was Herod Agrippa. Also, the Sandhedrin not too great. Anyone recall the same?

    There were lots of villianous Jewish characters in JESUS OF NAZARETH, including Ian Holm's Zerah, a Temple scribe that isn't even mentioned in Scripture.

    I think Zefirelli is jealous that another cinematic version of the story will eclipse his as the most popular.

  • THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST.. (It's here!!).. Live thread!

    02/25/2004 2:40:56 PM PST · 367 of 397
    Clintons a commie to carlo3b
    I returned from seeing it a few hours ago.

    I really have no words to express how I feel about this film. It's stunning in every regard. Truly the movie of my lifetime.

  • Gibson favors gore over drama [Phila. Inquirer gives Passion 2-star review]

    02/25/2004 6:14:05 AM PST · 40 of 52
    Clintons a commie to NordP
    I'm not surprised at all by Rickey's review. She did give THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST four stars, calling it "audacious". She's probably not interested in a film that details the truth about Our Lord.

    One giant surprise-the local liberal rag, THE PHILADELPHIA WEEKLY, gave THE PASSION a rave review! The reviewer mentioned "his lapsed Irish Catholic Baggage", said how much he cried while watching the film, and said the message of the film is love. He also said that years from now, when the furor has died down, this film will be recognized for the masterpiece that it is.

  • Bishop of San Jose Denies Historicity of Gospels in Response to "Passion" Film

    02/24/2004 7:59:42 PM PST · 36 of 178
    Clintons a commie to mercy
    Not interested in ancient history. Thanks to Luther and Calvin the situation is now reversed and this is more relevant don't you think? Considering the fact that Luther and Calvin's revolt against authority is what led to the idea that one could "demythologize" the Scriptures and find their "plain meaning" on one's own, I don't think it's ancient history at all. And Protestant "scholars" are still at the forefront of trashing the Bible. But I do applaud the Protestants who stand up for Scripture, like Josh McDowell and Lee Stroebel.
  • Bishop of San Jose Denies Historicity of Gospels in Response to "Passion" Film

    02/24/2004 7:53:13 PM PST · 31 of 178
    Clintons a commie to rogueleader
    Many wrongly assume that Mel Gibson is Roman Catholic. He is not. He is Old Catholic. Actually, the Old Catholics were a group that left the Catholic Church after the 1st Vatican Council and its proclamation on Papal Infallibility. Gibson belongs to the Traditionalist Movement, a group within Catholicism that wants the Church's liturgy to be restored to it's pre Vatican II state, and also rejects the ecumenism of the modern Papacies(but not the Papacy itself).
  • Bishop of San Jose Denies Historicity of Gospels in Response to "Passion" Film

    02/24/2004 7:37:41 PM PST · 23 of 178
    Clintons a commie to mercy
    BWA HAW HAW HAW!!!!!!!!! This is what 'church tradition' and papal infalibility will get ya.

    Considering the fact that the "higher criticism" of the Gospels and the Bible started with Protestant clergyman in the 19th century, and the Catholic Church held the fort on Biblical Innerrancy for a century after the higher critics did their damage in Protestant circles, you really have no room at all to laugh.

  • What Other Critics Are Saying (about the "Passion of the Christ")

    02/24/2004 2:37:13 PM PST · 114 of 117
    Clintons a commie to Radioactive
    ..............Maybe Mel Gibson was really put on this earth to make this movie

    That idea has been going through my head for awhile.

    The critics, with a few surprising exceptions, are behaving as I always thought they would. They finally find a violent film that they don't like. And yet the near pornographic violence in NATURAL BORN KILLERS, KILL BILL and PULP FICTION, films that have absolutely no respect for the value of human life,elicits the highest praise from these same people.

    Pray for them, that's the only thing we can do.

  • THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST.. (It's here!!).. Live thread!

    02/23/2004 5:54:55 PM PST · 89 of 397
    Clintons a commie to luckystarmom
    It's time Christians work together for things that we all believe.

    Amen to that!

  • THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST.. (It's here!!).. Live thread!

    02/23/2004 5:09:33 PM PST · 23 of 397
    Clintons a commie to MasterCommie_hunter
    Mel Gibson is a Catholic. Money from this film will go to build a Catholic Church, named "The Holy Family Catholic Church" which preaches their counterfeit lies in Latin...(figures). Catholics are ruled by Emotion, Maryism, the Pope, and man made figures. They put more hope and faith in "signs and wonders" than in the BIBLE. Now, if money was to go towards the service of a wrecking ball on that Church, ...then maybe I'll have more of a reason to see the film when it comes out.

    I hope you have a nice day too.

    Now I'm going to say a Hail Mary for you.;)

    P.S. Can the PASSION threads stop being hijacked by anti-Catholic bigots? If Protestants believe they can do a better job in making a film about Christ, then please go and make one. And I guarantee you that if it's good, I'd be first in line to buy a ticket.

  • I Cannot Publish the New Yorker Article, but I can Publish the Link About the Passion Critique

    02/23/2004 3:17:10 PM PST · 58 of 68
    Clintons a commie to mlmr
    It looks to me like the smears about anti-semitism haven't worked, so now many film critics are going to attack this film for it's violent content. Suddenly, critics discover a violent film they don't like.

    Well, at least Ebert, Roeper and even Peter Travers of Rolling Stone gave the film a positive review.

  • A Freeper Review of The Passion of Christ

    02/22/2004 6:04:13 AM PST · 336 of 481
    Clintons a commie to savedbygrace
    Where in scripture does Elizabeth do this?

    Luke 1:42 And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed [art] thou among women, and blessed [is] the fruit of thy womb.

    (Of course, you have no scriptural support for even Gabriel praying to saints, do you?)

    No, but I have scriptural support for Gabriel honoring Mary and saying to her "Hail, Full of Grace". And Mary is not dead. She's alive to God. We are still connected to the entire Body of Christ, past, present and future. Mary and the other saints can pray for us just as surely as you can pray for me.

  • A Freeper Review of The Passion of Christ

    02/21/2004 6:34:02 PM PST · 128 of 481
    Clintons a commie to madison10
    Yeah, but Mary is physically dead. How can one ask a dead person to pray for them?

    have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, Mat 22:32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

  • A Freeper Review of The Passion of Christ

    02/21/2004 6:31:12 PM PST · 124 of 481
    Clintons a commie to savedbygrace
    Do you pray, "Hail Mary, full of grace. The Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen."?

    I pray that prayer every day, in imitation of the Angel Gabriel and St. Elizabeth. I guess they were necromancers too. ;)

  • QUESTIONING 'PASSION' AND THE GOSPEL TRUTH (crossing over into Christian-hating)

    02/21/2004 8:15:26 AM PST · 68 of 84
    Clintons a commie to wimpycat
    Zefirelli switched a lot of stuff around, a whole lot. He switched around who said what, who did what, where Jesus was when he said certain things, and also certain sequences of events. He added non-Scriptural characters (such as Veronica and Zerah) while leaving out certain other characters (such as Simon of Cyrene, the Samaritan woman). Yet the movie still sells very well in Christian bookstores and is still shown on TV, and like I said, it's still my favorite movie about Jesus. So, your idea of what it means to be "scripturally accurate" is obviously different from mine.

    These are great points. I love Zeffirelli's film too, and I love some of the filling in of the gaps(ie, Ian Holm's Zerah, a masterful character and performance). But it's very true, much of it is pure speculation. Gibson's film, from the sound of it, is much truer to the Gospels.

  • QUESTIONING 'PASSION' AND THE GOSPEL TRUTH (crossing over into Christian-hating)

    02/21/2004 8:10:31 AM PST · 67 of 84
    Clintons a commie to joesbucks
    In Mel's version, the beating of Jesus begins immediately upon his arrest, contrary to the Gospels

    How is this contrary to the Gospels? Is there a hidden passage somewhere that says "And they didn't start beating Jesus until after His arrest"? The Gospels don't record each and every event of the Passion. I'm sure Our Lord was subjected to pain and indignities that we'll never be aware of until the Last Judgement. And Gibson's film, as brutal as it is, is probably even tame compared to the truth.

  • Will The Passion Movie Have Political As Well As Spiritual Consequences?

    02/21/2004 7:39:24 AM PST · 76 of 89
    Clintons a commie to jonboy
    you think that a Hollywood production of the sort that Last Temptation of Christ was had an innocent kiss on the mouth that wasn't intimating something else I've got a sea-side resort in Arizona to sell you

    I wouldn't recommend LAST TEMPTATION to anyone, but I think you need to see the scene in its context before you say it was meant to convey anything sexual at all. The film is based on Kazantakis' book, and the book has a very Mediterranean flavor; emotions and affection are expressed differently in other cultures than they are in America. Here in the States, any affection between men at all is suspect. In other cultures, it's very natural.

  • Will The Passion Movie Have Political As Well As Spiritual Consequences?

    02/20/2004 6:15:25 PM PST · 46 of 89
    Clintons a commie to jonboy
    Then what, BI? Unless they edited the part out of the script which said so I KNOW that the offending section of the movie had Jesus kissing EITHER John or Judas on the mouth

    There is a scene where John the Baptist kisses Jesus on the lips, but it certainly isn't to imply that either Jesus or John are gay or bi. The sequence is right before Jesus goes into the wilderness for forty days, and John emotionally hugs and kisses him before warning him that the devil will try to deceive Him in the desert.

    We need to be accurate when we protest things that are an attack on our faith. Saying that Jesus was portrayed as gay in LAST TEMPTATION is not accurate. There are plenty of things wrong in that film, but that isn't one of them.

  • Mel Gibson & Passion: Does the New Testament in the Bible Constitute "Hate" Literature?

    02/20/2004 5:44:34 PM PST · 14 of 33
    Clintons a commie to ComtedeMaistre
    Not only isn't it hate literature, but it's the greatest message of love in the history of humanity.

    Let's pray for all who oppose this movie and the Gospels that inspired it. I think the Lord is going to use this film in a very powerful way, and will bring many souls to Himself.

  • Mel Gibson: $5 Mil to Fringe Church (FOX attacks "antiquated Catholic ideology")

    02/20/2004 5:27:57 PM PST · 252 of 333
    Clintons a commie to sinkspur
    He, therefore is excommunicated. The Decree excommunicating Marcel Lefebvre was issue by John Paul II in 1988.

    Gibson isn't affiliated with the Society of St. Pius X, so Cardinal Gantin's declaration of ipso facto excommunication doesn't concern Gibson.

    Also, the ipso facto declaration of Lefevbre and the bishops associated with him do not apply to anyone other than the bishops, let alone the faithful who attend Society chapels. In fact, recently Bishop Perle of the Eclessia Dei Commission said that it was permissable to attend Masses at Society chapels and even could even make a donation to the collection.

    Finally, when the local Bishop of Hawaii declared five Catholics who attended the Society chapel in Honolulu excommunicated in 1993, Cardinal Ratzinger himself declared that the Bishop overstepped his authority and that the people who attended the chapel were Catholics in good standing.

    You need more evidence to declare Gibson a schismatic than the fact that he attends a unauthorized Latin Mass.

  • Mel Gibson: $5 Mil to Fringe Church (FOX attacks "antiquated Catholic ideology")

    02/20/2004 5:06:53 PM PST · 249 of 333
    Clintons a commie to CobaltBlue
    Are you Roman Catholic yourself? Traditionalist? Just curious as to what makes you qualified to judge whether someone who's rejected Vatican II is "in full communication with the Church

    Yes, I'm Catholic. And any baptized person who holds to the Catholic faith is a Roman Catholic, according to my catechism. I certainly don't have any authority to say that anyone is a Catholic. But neither does anyone-except for the Pope- have the authority to excommunicate Gibson.

  • Mel Gibson: $5 Mil to Fringe Church (FOX attacks "antiquated Catholic ideology")

    02/20/2004 5:06:02 PM PST · 248 of 333
    Clintons a commie to CobaltBlue
    Are you Roman Catholic yourself? Traditionalist? Just curious as to what makes you qualified to judge whether someone who's rejected Vatican II is "in full communication with the Church

    Yes, I'm Catholic. And any baptized person who holds to the Catholic faith is a Roman Catholic, according to my catechism. I certainly don't have any authority to say that anyone is a Catholic. But neither does anyone-except for the Pope- have the authority to excommunicate Gibson.

  • Mel Gibson: $5 Mil to Fringe Church (FOX attacks "antiquated Catholic ideology")

    02/20/2004 4:42:34 PM PST · 236 of 333
    Clintons a commie to sinkspur
    You're holding a position Gibson himself doesn't hold

    Did he tell you that when you met him at Kelsey's bar for darts last weekend?

  • Mel Gibson: $5 Mil to Fringe Church (FOX attacks "antiquated Catholic ideology")

    02/20/2004 4:40:39 PM PST · 234 of 333
    Clintons a commie to sinkspur
    I'm not the issue here, pal. Gibson is not in union with Rome.

    Yes, but you are acting as his judge. Like I said before, publish the decree of Mel Gibson's excommunication on Free Republic. Until you do, I consider him a Catholic in full communion with the Church.

  • Mel Gibson: $5 Mil to Fringe Church (FOX attacks "antiquated Catholic ideology")

    02/20/2004 4:29:09 PM PST · 230 of 333
    Clintons a commie to Pyro7480
    . Is Mel going to hell for not being in union with Rome?

    Well, to the modernist mind, the only people who go to hell are traditionalist Catholics. Everyone else is headed for the Pearly Gates.

  • Mel Gibson: $5 Mil to Fringe Church (FOX attacks "antiquated Catholic ideology")

    02/20/2004 4:25:27 PM PST · 225 of 333
    Clintons a commie to sinkspur
    Gibson is not in union with Rome, though he will not come out and say so

    Thank the Lord that you're not the person who decides who is in communion with Rome, and who isn't.

  • Mel Gibson: $5 Mil to Fringe Church (FOX attacks "antiquated Catholic ideology")

    02/20/2004 4:23:39 PM PST · 224 of 333
    Clintons a commie to westerfield
    Gibson's chapel has 70 members and attendance is by invitation only. That's an "exclusive" church. I imagine that if he didn't do this, he would have to contend with groupies showing up there just to get a glimpse of him and possibly disrupting the service.

    Also, private chapels have historically been very common for wealthy Catholics to own. There isn't a crime or sin here; the guy wants to worship at the ancient rite of Mass in peace. More power to him.

  • Mel Gibson: $5 Mil to Fringe Church (FOX attacks "antiquated Catholic ideology")

    02/20/2004 4:19:33 PM PST · 222 of 333
    Clintons a commie to sinkspur
    Gibson's chapel is not in union with the Catholic Church and Rome.

    Please print the decree of excommunication on Free Republic for all to see.

    Until you do that, I'll consider Gibson to be a Catholic in full communion with the Roman Pontiff.

  • Critics say Gibson film mimics a hateful book

    02/20/2004 3:59:43 PM PST · 133 of 153
    Clintons a commie to madison10
    According to the link someone provided above to Emmerich's book, there is a bridge scene (p. 135), but most of us don't know if the exact "bridge scene" is in the movie.

    Yes, the bridge sequence is in Venerable Anne Catherine Emmerich's book. I don't see anything anti-semitic about it, or unscriptural.

  • FOX News has a problem (Fox shabby reporting and maligning of conservative Christians)

    02/20/2004 3:51:10 PM PST · 23 of 23
    Clintons a commie to AAABEST
    rejects the universally accepted teachings of the Second Vatican Conference

    I think most Traditionalist Catholics accept Vatican II as a legitimate Council, but accept it in the light of tradition, as Pope Paul VI and Pope John Paul II said it must be interpreted. The texts of the Second Vatican Council are pastoral in nature and not ex cathedra statements, and any ambiguities in them(and there are a few ambigious passages that have been twisted to fit a modernist interpretation) have to be interpreted in light of all of Sacred Scripture, Tradition and the other Councils, not vice versa.

    Whenever a liberal Catholic sneers at a pre-Vatican II practice with the condescending words, "That's pre-Vatican II!", I reply with, "So was Jesus".

  • Will The Passion Movie Have Political As Well As Spiritual Consequences?

    02/20/2004 2:56:55 PM PST · 37 of 89
    Clintons a commie to jonboy
    it, death threats were supposedly received, and to top it off, it only took in a little more than eight million dollars. Of course, it couldn't have had anything to do with the fact that it was an anti-religious allegorical interpretation of a Christ who was weak, implied gay

    I'm not defending LAST TEMPTATION, which is loaded with theological and historical inaccuracies(but they were "ok" because it was Marty's vision/sarcasm off), but Jesus is definitely not gay in the film, implied or otherwise.

  • "My own viewing of the film" + "Mel does a Tarantino job on Christ"

    02/20/2004 2:42:40 PM PST · 27 of 96
    Clintons a commie to Swede Girl
    From seeing the previews, it seems to me that the beatings were depicted as much more violent than what the Bible states

    Not really. The Bible simply says "Jesus was scourged" or "They scourged Him" and leaves it at that. But people who read the Bible at the time of its composition knew with horror what a Roman scourging meant. They didn't need the bloody details, they were all too well aware of it from having to live with the brutality of the times in their every day life.

    Modern people, on the other hand, have no clue what a scourging with a Roman flagellum(a cat-o-nine tails with wood and glass on the end of it) entailed, and have no idea what Jesus had to suffer when that scourging occurred. It was a horror, and a filmmaker is finally using all the tools of his craft to show us what Our Lord had to endure in order to obtain our Redemption.

    I won't be enjoying this film when I watch it, but I hope to be moved to greater love and appreciation of Christ because of it.

  • "My own viewing of the film" + "Mel does a Tarantino job on Christ"

    02/20/2004 2:20:06 PM PST · 20 of 96
    Clintons a commie to dennisw
    Immediately after the "trial," the priests take turns hitting and spitting on Jesus, and then the guards and observers join in, beating him with sadistic glee.

    I hate to tell the author of this piece, but this in Scripture.

    Mark 14:65 And some began to spit on him, and to cover his face, and to buffet him, and to say unto him, Prophesy: and the servants did strike him with the palms of their hands.

    As far as the Jewish Priests being present at the Crucifixion and taunting Our Lords, this is true too.

    Mark 15:31 Likewise also the chief priests mocking said among themselves with the scribes, He saved others; himself he cannot save. 15:32 Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe. And they that were crucified with him reviled him.

    As usual, this guy doesn't have a problem with Mel Gibson or his movie, but with Scripture. The other things-the scene on the bridge, the Priests on Donkeys-are artistic license, and certainly not inappropiate. As far as the Jews entering the Praetorium, if this is in the film, it is a historical blunder. But there was an antechamber to the Praetorium, and Jews could go there. Perhaps this is what is intended in the film, but it may not be explained correctly.

    What I get from this review is the impression that it was written by someone who has a modernistic bent, and doesn't like the politically incorrect parts of the Gospel(ie, the Jewish establishment's participation in the event, Pilate's vacillation). His problem isn't with Gibson or his film, but with the divine revelation contained in the Holy Gospels and in Sacred Tradition.

  • National Critic Reviews Mel Gibson's "Passion" Movie(Big Thumbs Up from Richard Roeper)

    02/19/2004 4:35:22 PM PST · 1 of 4
    Clintons a commie
  • "Ebert & Roeper" to air early-bird preview of "Passion"

    02/19/2004 4:31:02 PM PST · 8 of 9
    Clintons a commie to Clintons a commie
    National Critic Reviews Mel Gibson's "Passion" Movie Feb. 18, 2004

    KSL NEWS

    Until now, it's all been hype and speculation about Mel Gibson's new film "The Passion of the Christ" But, today Carole Mikita talked with a nationally recognized critic who has actually seen it.

    Richard Roeper of "Ebert and Roeper at the Movies" says it is one of the most intense movies he has ever seen, but he means that in a good way.

    Richard Roeper/ "Ebert & Roeper at the Movies: "IT IS, I THINK, THE BEST MOVIE EVER MADE ABOUT THE FINAL DAYS IN THE LIFE AND TIMES OF JESUS CHRIST AND WE HAVE SEEN, OVER THE LAST HUNDRED YEARS OF CINEMA, LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF MOVIES MADE ABOUT JESUS CHRIST AND I THINK THIS RANKS RIGHT AT THE VERY TOP."

    Richard Roeper says "The Passion of the Christ" is a stunning work of art. Many wondered if Mel Gibson was taking too much risk using 30-million dollars of his own money. Roeper says this is a blockbuster.

    "IT LOOKS LIKE A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR MOVIE, IN TERMS OF THE SET DESIGN, THE CINEMATOGRAPHY, THE AMOUNT OF EXTRAS THAT ARE USED IN THIS FILM, THE LOCATIONS SHOOTING, THE ACTING, IT ALL OSCAR QUALITY. "

    Carole Mikita: "There are pastors, church leaders of a number of Christian denominations that have, in recent years, warned their members not to go to R rated films."

    RIchard Roeper: "PEOPLE SHOULD BE CAREFUL. I DON''T THINK THIS IS A MOVIE THAT 8 OR 10-YEAR-OLD CHILDREN SHOULD SEE, REGARDLESS OF THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS, BECAUSE IT'S JUST TOO INTENSE AND IT'S JUST TOO VIOLENT. SO, I HOPE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS MOVIE HAS EARNED IT'S 'R' RATING, IF ANYTHING IT'S CLOSE TO AN 'NC-17' RATING."

    Recent articles have suggested that Gibson went too far in some scenes, with graphic depictions that some in Hollywood will not want to work with him after this. Roeper doesn't agree.

    Carole Mikita: "There have been some very interesting behind-the-scenes marketing techniques with this film, as well."

    Richard Roeper: "LIKE NOTHING WE'VE EVER SEEN BEFORE. AND I THINK MEL GIBSON'S BEING A LITTLE DISINGENUOUS WHEN HE SAYS HE HAD NO IDEA ALL THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. HE'S BEEN OUT THERE FOR THE LAST YEAR FANNING THE FLAMES AND NOT SHYING AWAY FROM THE CONTROVERSY BUT IT'S WORKED REAL WELL, HASN'T IT?"

    "The Passion" opens next Wednesday, and there are many theatres nationwide that are already sold out for the entire day.

  • Scholars: Crucifixion Portrayal Inaccurate

    02/19/2004 4:09:11 PM PST · 43 of 214
    Clintons a commie to sinkspur
    I don't see what difference it makes whether there were nails; the gospels do not mention nails.

    Read John Chapter 20. The pertinent quote is on this page. Jesus was nailed to the cross.

  • Scholars: Crucifixion Portrayal Inaccurate

    02/19/2004 4:05:58 PM PST · 40 of 214
    Clintons a commie to safisoft
    Thanks. I was just about to point out the resurrection narrative in John's Gospel. These so-called "experts" are a complete joke.
  • "Ebert & Roeper" to air early-bird preview of "Passion"

    02/19/2004 2:46:39 PM PST · 7 of 9
    Clintons a commie to proust
    I don't think Roeper will like it. Number one, it's not an American Pie sequel, and number two, he's a liberal puke.

    Roeper wrote a piece last week on the way Hollywood attacks Catholics and Christians, and seemed to be insinuating that the anti-semitism charge of the film isn't true. He mentioned that he saw the film, though didn't comment on whether he liked it or not.

  • Mel Gibson’s “The Passion of the Christ” ~ An International Hoax

    02/19/2004 2:34:26 PM PST · 104 of 115
    Clintons a commie to narses
    Can anyone make sense of this dreck? What are they claiming?

    The author seems to be claiming that the film is an occult work(some anti-Catholic bias is evident here), and that it attacks the Bodily Ressurection. Considering the fact that the film is based on the 4 Gospels, and that, according to someone who has seen it, the film clearly shows Jesus's body rising in the tomb and leaving behind His Holy Shroud, I wouldn't take any of it seriously. The attacks on Belluci can be ignored. Who cares what she has done? She's an actress playing a part, pure and simple.

  • "Ebert & Roeper" to air early-bird preview of "Passion"

    02/18/2004 6:12:32 PM PST · 1 of 9
    Clintons a commie
    Well, looks like the lamestream critics are going to start weighing in on this one. I have a feeling that Roeper is going to like it, but you never know with Ebert.
  • ABC scored with Mel Gibson and Jesus Christ

    02/18/2004 3:18:46 PM PST · 29 of 54
    Clintons a commie to jeffo
    Now that was funny!
  • Cardinal favours condoms to stop AIDS (leading candidates to succeed Pope John Paul)

    01/13/2004 6:14:02 PM PST · 214 of 384
    Clintons a commie to Jorge
    I just wonder how seriously you expect to be taken when in the same post where you lecture people on sin, you commit the sin of swearing at them. It kind of discredits your statement.

    Who the hell was I lecturing about sin?(Oops, I let out another one of those naughty words!). My post was directed to an ordained deacon of the Catholic Church who posts on this site regularly who was undermining the teaching of the Church. As I said in that post, I sympathize with people who struggle with these issues because I'm a fallen human being too. But someone who purports to represent the Church should promote Catholic teaching. Period. End of story.

    I also find it amusing that the word "damn" is considered to be so sinful and evil.

    Oh well, what can else can you expect from a society and the people that dwell in it that condones the murder of 4,000 babies daily, but outlaws smoking in public places?

  • Cardinal favours condoms to stop AIDS (leading candidates to succeed Pope John Paul)

    01/13/2004 5:51:52 PM PST · 208 of 384
    Clintons a commie to Jorge
    And in general condoms are STILL considered by the mainstream medical community to be effective protection against the transmittion of AIDS.

    In case you haven't noticed, this is a thread discussing the Catholic doctrine on contraception. According to Church teaching, using contraceptives is always, objectively speaking, a mortal sin(just as masturbation is,and fornication, etc.). The job of the Church is guidance of souls, not medical advice. The only thing that that the Church would recommend for preventing the spreading of the HIV virus is abstinence.

  • Cardinal favours condoms to stop AIDS (leading candidates to succeed Pope John Paul)

    01/13/2004 5:17:24 PM PST · 203 of 384
    Clintons a commie to Jorge
    This thread is about the Catholic religion. You might have noticed that. Contraception is a mortal sin according to the teachings of the Catholic Church. I know that what the inevitable reply to this post will be, but so be it.

    As for the cursing, I apologize if I offended you, but cursing-unless taking God's name in vain-is on the level of spitting on the sidewalk. Probably not recommended, but it's not even a venial sin.

  • Cardinal favours condoms to stop AIDS (leading candidates to succeed Pope John Paul)

    01/13/2004 4:18:29 PM PST · 189 of 384
    Clintons a commie to sinkspur
    Ah, but the Church's teaching develops, all the time.

    But in the development of doctrine, a new understanding never contradicts an old one. So, to say that using contraceptives under certain circumstances is not a development of doctrine, but a corruption. John Henry Newman explains this in his classic work ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF DOCTRINE.

    I know that Newman isn't as "relevant" as Hans Kung, Richard McBrien and Edward Schillibeck, but he does have some excellent insights from time to time.

  • Cardinal favours condoms to stop AIDS (leading candidates to succeed Pope John Paul)

    01/13/2004 4:14:54 PM PST · 188 of 384
    Clintons a commie to sinkspur
    Translation: think like me or you ain't much of a Catholic.

    Got it.

    Correction: think with the mind of the Church, or you aren't a Catholic at all.

  • Cardinal favours condoms to stop AIDS (leading candidates to succeed Pope John Paul)

    01/13/2004 3:26:06 PM PST · 178 of 384
    Clintons a commie to sinkspur
    Problems of the SOUL? Trying to prevent the death of a mother is a problem of the soul? Tell her children that.

    If the issue of contraceptives isn't a "problem of the soul"-both of the individual, and society at large-then the Church shouldn't even be dealing with it at all. Using a contraceptive is, objectively speaking, always a mortal sin, so you're damn right it's a problem of the soul.

    Instead of telling me to get my head out of the sand, maybe you'd better put yours in the clouds(ie, Heaven). For an ordained member of the Church, you don't seem to think about that very much(nor Hell, or grace, or purgatory, or the Blessed Mother, or the sufferings of Christ or...).

  • Cardinal favours condoms to stop AIDS (leading candidates to succeed Pope John Paul)

    01/13/2004 2:00:59 PM PST · 159 of 384
    Clintons a commie to sinkspur
    Y'know, Sinkspur, from a human point of view, I understand why people use condoms and other forms of birth control. I certainly understand the weakness of human nature, especially in regards to the sixth and ninth Commandments.

    But, frankly, reading your posts remind me what is wrong with the Church today. You are an ordained deacon, and as such should be a representative of Jesus Christ. You should champion the position of Christ and the Church even when it's difficult. Instead, you look to secular solutions for problems of the soul. People need to hear the truth; eternity is at stake. If they can't hear it from an ordained representive of the Church of Christ, where can they hear it?

    As Pius XI said in his encyclical on contraception, a confessor or churchman who tells someone that it's ok to practice contraception is a blind guide leading the blind, and both will fall off a precipice.

    Would that we had strong churchmen who represented the truth again, and not wimps who don't even seem to believe that there is a supernatural element to religion at all.