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Posts by Derrald

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  • Forging Fembots at Connecticut College

    01/29/2004 5:32:03 PM PST · 4 of 16
    Derrald to familyop
    What are they like?
  • Nike's new church ads lack taste

    01/08/2004 9:50:11 PM PST · 16 of 23
    Derrald to Holly_P
    Ask 30 random black people, "Do you think that commercial was insensitive to the black church?"

    The answer will be no in 90% of your respondents. I can guarantee that. Seriously, what the hell happened to the America where we wouldn't get offended by every little thing that pokes fun at other people?

    Whine, whine, whine. It's all I ever see anymore! Seriously, get something else to be offended by!

  • Connecticut Democrats Mull Impeaching Gov. Rowland

    01/08/2004 9:41:51 PM PST · 28 of 46
    Derrald to goldstategop
    "Of course if a Democrat lies, that doesn't rise to the level of an impeachable offense." Where you even in this country a few years ago? Clinton was impeached. This is about the 30th damn post I've read today where someone whines and bitches about how democrats get off easy and republicans take it hard when it is obviously not the case. Since when did this become the party of whiners? Look, if we hold Clinton to one standard and Rowland to a different one, then we're hypocrites. If this is the party of morality, then a lie is a lie whether a republican, democrat, green, libertarian, or independent said it to a republican, democrat, green, libertarian, or independent. 'Nuff Said. Some things are more important than politics. One of them is consistency. Practice what you preach or you'll lose the choir.
  • Black voters ready to listen to Republicans' pitch

    01/08/2004 9:31:28 PM PST · 7 of 18
    Derrald to billhilly
    "A job rather than a check? "

    I hope you realise the irony in that statement. When you say something like that, a black man is going to hear "Since most of you people are on welfare anyway, dont you want to get a job out of it instead?"

    In the future, when trying to convince blacks to vote Republican, "Get a job, rather than a check" is not the right avenue to travel down. Just thought you might like to know.
  • Help on rebutting Al Franken's allegations in his new book.

    01/06/2004 11:46:24 PM PST · 2 of 4
    Derrald to QQQ
    No such luck. To be honest, Franken pegged O'Reilly pretty well. I didn't believe it too much myself, but I doublechecked his sources and it's all there.

    If you want to make an argument with them, the best option is to say that Al only points out a few things in his book, but that doesnt take away from the meat and potatoes of what O'Reilly is about. Also, Franken alleges that O'Reilly is conservative while O'Reilly calls himself independent. Franken uses O'Reilly's voter registration to prove that O'Reilly registered a republican. That's pretty shoddy evidence when the choices are either "democrat, republican, other, and some obscure party"

    Other than that, the two things I remember Franken having gotten O'Reilly on are when O'Reilly said "we" won two peabodies and it turned out "they" had won one polk. The other was that O'Reilly said he grew up in (I think it was) Levittown, but he'd actually grown up in Westbury - which makes him seem like he'd been lying about growing up middle-class while he was growing up rich.

    The best argument is to say that O'Reilly may have misspoke a few times in the past, but that doesnt mean everything he says is a lie. Also, point out that Franken must have lied at some point - that doesnt mean that they wont believe anything Franken says, so why should a few misspeakings in O'Reilly's past make him wrong to listen to?

    Extra note: I've really stopped watching O'Reilly anymore - anyone else notice how his stories seems to be all about Lady Di, Michael Jackson, and other tabloidish stuff lately? If I wanted to have the Enquirer on TV, I'd watch Larry King (who NEVER shuts up about Scott Peterson, Kobe Bryant, or whoever the accused-of-the-day is.)
  • www.frankenlies.com

    01/04/2004 2:34:57 PM PST · 11 of 29
    Derrald to infoguy
    um, to be honest - they don't really cite any "lies" on their website.

    What they do cite tends to be either:

    1. A different interpretation of facts that they do agree are correct (Franken believed the purging of voters from the rolls was the result of a republican campaign to rid the state of possible democratic votes. The website charges that it was merely a mistake. Either way, both sources agree that an incorrect purging did occur)

    2. A wild overreaction to something that obviously isn't what they say it is. (Come on, saying someone has "A touch of the Irish Flu" is about as racist as saying "Gee, this is a fine Italian sausage they sell at Penn Mac.")

    3. Their inability to handle a joke (The chapter "Operation Ignore" is obviously a joke that Franken uses to emphasize his belief that the Bush Admin had many opportunities to prevent Sept. 11th. Anybody who doesnt get the point that Franken was joking (whether you believe it's funny or not) has to have an IQ ranging in the mid-20's)

    4. A fake disproving of a fact (Al says that poverty hit its highest point in 23 years according to one study. The site provides the same study saying it was at its lowest point in 2001. This does not disprove Franken's point about 23 years, yet the site heralds it as though it does. It would only apply if Franken had said it was at its highest point that year.)

    5. The citing of an editorial as fact (Not everything in Time Magazine is the total, unvarnished truth, sorry to say. Some of it is an opinion.)

    6. Disproving a minor point and saying it discredits the whole. (They cite that Glick was lying to O'Reilly. Does this matter? No. What Franken was trying to prove was that O'Reilly cannot handle confrontation - it does nothing to disprove Franken.)

    7. A complete misunderstanding of world affairs (If Phillipine officials don't help the US, you might as well call me the pope.)

    8. Completely making stuff up (Even if Phillipinian officials had given the president the information, Clinton's FBI that captured Yousef is still at least partly responsible for thwarting each of the terrorist attacks they had planned.)

    Final Word? An all-too-familiar Hack job. Either catch him in something real, provide a true counterpoint, or just get off the web. The national discourse has become waaaaaaaay too much of people trying to get other people into little "gotcha!" situations without addressing any real issues - this site is a prime example of trying, but never succeeding.

  • ***Dems Lose Again: Women Love the "Flight Suit" GWB and "The Landing"***

    12/28/2003 4:22:26 PM PST · 8 of 11
    Derrald to The Wizard
    What was real? His landing the plane?


    So, I've got this nice suspension-style one in the works, painted a very nice hue of light blue, nice weight capacity, very sturdy. I'll let it go for a couple G's. Interested?
  • Merry Christmas; America Sucks!--The holiday message of the modern public school system.

    12/22/2003 7:12:43 AM PST · 28 of 55
    Derrald to SJackson
    "Schools are not the only institutions that twist history to score ideological points. "Never Forget That They Owned Lots of Slaves" is the huge headline across the front page of the New York Times' book review section in its December 14th issue. Inside is an indictment of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson. "

    Quite frankly, I've got to take a bit of a second gander at this part of the article. Sounds to me like a bit of an embellishment to get people all riled up over something. So, I opened up the Dec. 14 review this article refers to, and sure enough, the closest to an indictment of George Washington or Thomas Jefferson the review ever gets close to is:

    "By 1786, he [Washington] vowed never to purchase another slave and expressed a wish to see slavery in America ''abolished by slow, sure and imperceptible degrees.'' Eventually he found slavery to be morally repugnant, and he did what no other Southern slaveholding Revolutionary leader was able to do. In his will, which he drew up secretly, he freed upon the death of his wife, Martha, all the slaves under his control and urged that they be educated."

    "Yet, as Lincoln pointed out, Jefferson, much more than Washington or any of the other founders, has come to stand for America's highest ideals and aspirations. That our principal spokesman for democracy and equality was a slaveholding aristocrat with what we today would consider racist views is surely the greatest irony in American history;"

    Now, I can see how perhaps the second quote might seem a little like bashing, but Jefferson did have those kind of views, and the review even points out that those views are only racist by today's standards.

    Shame on whoever over at Frontpagemag that wrote that article. It's shoddy reporting at best that's intended to get people all excited over something that just isn't true. I'd much rather have the truth than some empty feeling of being right about something. I don't think Frontpagemag feels the same way


    12/02/2003 9:22:21 AM PST · 14 of 14
    Derrald to kattracks
    If you're so concerned, really, be a good parent and dont let your kid near the magazine.

    To whine and complain about how kids may get a dirty magazine with a fake ID (Playboy has been around for ages, by the way - I don't see any protests against it or Hustler and the like) is no better than the politicians in Washington who bitch and moan about the depravity of a show like Jackass while neglecting education and children.

    There are bigger issues out there. The catalog is not directed at teens, unless you count 18 and 19 year olds as teens. Worry about something bigger. And watch your own kid instead of forcing a corporation to be the nanny for you.

    12/02/2003 12:41:46 AM PST · 5 of 14
    Derrald to kattracks
    the magazine is only available to those over 18 at the counters of A&F stores. It costs seven dollars to purchase, and said purchaser must have valid ID.


    Educate yourself before you get your panties in a wad. No one is stupid enough to promote group sex to 15 year olds.
  • Conservative Christmas List

    12/02/2003 12:37:53 AM PST · 7 of 8
    Derrald to stainlessbanner
    de Tocqueville?

    You mean Alexander "Americans are so enamored of equality, they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom." de Tocqueville?
  • About That Memo . . .

    11/30/2003 2:39:54 AM PST · 8 of 9
    Derrald to RWR8189
    To be fair, I think the reason the media has not come out reporting this memo at full force is the fact that the Department of Defense has since declared that the memo is false and, in addition, The Weekly Standard did serious harm to national security by jumping on this leak.

    Link: http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/2003/nr20031115-0642.html

    some snips:

    The classified annex was not an analysis of the substantive issue of the relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda, and it drew no conclusions.

    Individuals who leak or purport to leak classified information are doing serious harm to national security; such activity is deplorable and may be illegal.

    To be quite frank, I find it sort of scumbaggish that the Weekly Standard would compromise national security just to try to prove themselves right. I've since cancelled my subscription.

    07/20/2003 5:39:15 PM PDT · 161 of 834
    Derrald to ConservativeMan55
    That's not a man killing President Bush. That's POLITICS! It's a little tool political cartoonists have always used called SYMBOLISM. The message of this cartoon is, simply, POLITICS IS BAD - BUSH IS INNOCENT - BUT POLITICS WANTS TO KILL HIM DESPITE HIS GOOD NATURE. They're doing everything but strapping him to the cross, for God's sake. Learn what the cartoon says before you attack it! Forgive the huge size, but I think it needs said.
  • Amazon: Coulter's "Treason" is #7...Hitlery's "Lying Hysterically" is #21

    07/20/2003 3:34:37 PM PDT · 3 of 24
    Derrald to Recovering_Democrat
    Here's the big-daddy of the lists - Hillary has been on it for quite a while.

  • Ala. Judge Loses Ten Commandments Appeal

    07/01/2003 3:25:51 PM PDT · 23 of 630
    Derrald to Lurking Libertarian
    [Amendment I (Ratified Effective December 15, 1791): Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of the speech, or of the press, or the right of the people to peacably assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.]

    This raises the question. Is the judge, by placing the ten commandments in the courtroom prohibiting the free exercise of other religions? For all rights are equal until they impede upon another man's rights. This is why freedom of press is viable until the publication suppresses another's freedom of speech. If the answer to the above question is yes, the judge's ruling was what the Constitution of our great nation called for. Further evidence must be understood before making a hasty generalization, so I am off to study this case
  • U.S. to Distribute 250,000 Quick AIDS Tests

    06/26/2003 5:40:36 PM PDT · 8 of 9
    Derrald to goodnesswins
    there's no epidemic here in the US. I dont see the need to classify it as a non-hetero epidemic, as it is also a non-homo epidemic. Take a good look at the ol' CDC website.




    Both are pretty small numbers in the scheme of things and neither are at epidemical proportions.
  • U.S. to Distribute 250,000 Quick AIDS Tests

    06/26/2003 5:16:22 PM PDT · 5 of 9
    Derrald to glock rocks
    "and did ya notice the hetero epidemic never materialized here?" ummm.. where exactly are you saying 'here' is? If you mean the US, then where did you read this about the lack of a heterosexual AIDS epidemic?

    to the post in general - knowledge is the greatest weapon against anything. don't underestimate its use until you see the results

  • Hollywood stars ask governor not to cut funding for arts programs [Robbins alert]

    06/24/2003 2:50:30 AM PDT · 61 of 66
    Derrald to Ruth A.
    "I can tell you that you do not have the inside track on me "

    When did I say I did? Don't start picking fights with me over stuff I did not do. I don't deal with people who try to pick fights.

    My "inside knowledge" comes from knowing about all the orgs that Robbins is a part of (perfectly accessible to anyone who wants to do research/read my earlier posts) and that people thought of him as an elitist who did nothing to shell out his own money or roll up his own sleeves. I have proven that those notions are stereotypical and inaccurate of Mr. Robbins. You have responded by accusing me of doing something which I did not do and re-iterating a false stereotype that has already been disproven.

    In addition, this thread was never about the tax cut, so let's not try to strawman as well as ad hominem and re-iterating disproven points, shall we?

  • Kids gone wild

    06/23/2003 11:52:39 PM PDT · 3 of 6
    Derrald to JohnHuang2
    pfft. It's a sad state our country is in, and it's always the first reaction to point fingers at media, schools, yada yada yada. It's the parents. They should be the strongest influence on their children, but they can't be because parents often have to both be employed or work two jobs to make any ends meet at all. Whenever parents start blaming the TV, it's only proof that those parents expect that box to be a babysitter and are more apt to raise a ruckus rather than making time to be involved in their children's lives.
  • Hollywood stars ask governor not to cut funding for arts programs [Robbins alert]

    06/23/2003 10:40:08 PM PDT · 50 of 66
    Derrald to Shooter 2.5
    You never said you went out and volunteered yourself. If you did, mention it, and don't get angy when I don't notice you doing something you never mention. Also, if you did, you can appreciate Robbins going and doing more than giving blood. Right? If not, what is it that makes you unimpressed with him? Does his altruistic nature make you want to vomit or something? Do you hate people who help that much?
  • Hollywood stars ask governor not to cut funding for arts programs [Robbins alert]

    06/23/2003 9:40:57 PM PDT · 45 of 66
    Derrald to Shooter 2.5
    do you even read? or do you just keep believing the same stupid lies? he was in NYC to do more than give blood! or can you not get that through your skull? you think all those people needed was blood? that's what separates Mr. Robbins from you. You see blood, and give blood, but offer no support, no helping hand. He sees blood, gives blood, then rolls up his sleeves to help. I've stated that repeatedly, but you - with no proof, not even a photo-op - attack him, without knowing what that man did. Want some evidence of why that man may have been in NYC besides blood? Take a look at the picture of him with the FDNY again. Take a good long look - that man is a man who helps his fellow man. Then look in the mirror - that is a man who attacks that man late at night for doing so.
  • Hollywood stars ask governor not to cut funding for arts programs [Robbins alert]

    06/23/2003 9:08:59 PM PDT · 42 of 66
    Derrald to Shooter 2.5
    "He could have volunteered anywhere." Right. because the World Trade Centre was... everywhere?

    I'm just a little peeved at people who will attack others without knowing a damned thing about them. Tim Robbins isn't an elitist. He gets his hands dirty and still feels the sweat of the working man, but people lump him as an elitist who eats lobster everyday. That is the product of a poorly-geared mind. I don't care if he was anti-war or not, because he was still anti-terror and pro-people, and he not only showed this with his money but with his hard work and sweat. There were no photo-ops, there were no ulterior motives, and he stood with his fellow man. Yet, to those who have taken it on themselves to hate this man, none of this matters. Seriously, give this man credit for doing above and beyond what the people of this nation asked.

    Tim Robbins, my fellow man, I salute you.

  • Hollywood stars ask governor not to cut funding for arts programs [Robbins alert]

    06/23/2003 8:46:41 PM PDT · 36 of 66
    Derrald to mykdsmom
    hmm... a man who accuses two people of brainwashing their own grandchildren later writes that Mr. Robbins whispered into his ear (so no one can hear but him, making his hearsay the only evidence) that he would injure him... yeah, the guy attacks Tim and his wife on the national stage, charging them with being evil grandparents... he's got nothing to gain from lying about what Mr. Robbins said, now does he?
  • Hollywood stars ask governor not to cut funding for arts programs [Robbins alert]

    06/23/2003 8:43:15 PM PDT · 34 of 66
    Derrald to Shooter 2.5
    show me the photo-op and you have credence. Maybe he had family to console? Maybe he wanted to be there to talk to people? Maybe he wanted to have hands-on experience in helping with the work effort? Show me the photo-op or stop whining about a man that drove across the country to put his hands into the work and get dirty.
  • Hollywood stars ask governor not to cut funding for arts programs [Robbins alert]

    06/23/2003 7:38:19 PM PDT · 26 of 66
    Derrald to VeniVidiVici
    that's what he does best, if my arguments are any proof. If you feel strong enough about it, give him a polite e-mail asking him to increase support from Hollywood. Sound like a plan?
  • Hollywood stars ask governor not to cut funding for arts programs [Robbins alert]

    06/23/2003 7:32:13 PM PDT · 23 of 66
    Derrald to Shooter 2.5
    show me the photo-op, and you have some credence. That pic I posted was from 2002 at an event he'd been a part of for 12 years.
  • Hollywood stars ask governor not to cut funding for arts programs [Robbins alert]

    06/23/2003 7:24:54 PM PDT · 21 of 66
    Derrald to Arpege92
    what are you talking about? Because Tim Robbins is smoking, he's evil? When did he ever speak out against smoking? Your comment made absolutely no sense.
  • Why the Grits didn't appeal gay marriage

    06/23/2003 7:23:26 PM PDT · 11 of 19
    Derrald to RJayneJ
    okee doke. I've been trying to find someone who was actually bothered by this so I could understand their side - maybe see something I didn't. Thanks for the insight anyhow
  • Hollywood stars ask governor not to cut funding for arts programs [Robbins alert]

    06/23/2003 7:19:44 PM PDT · 19 of 66
    Derrald to mykdsmom
    Thanks for the link. I'd rather read about a man willing to drive across the country and donate his time and money to aid firefighters and people who fell on hard times due to terrorism rather than a forum poster who would rather spend their time bad-mouthing him anyway.

    Later. I don't feel like talking to anyone who hates people who fight to help those affected by terrorism. It just doesn't seem right to acknowledge that a terror-apologist like that can exist in our country today.

  • Hollywood stars ask governor not to cut funding for arts programs [Robbins alert]

    06/23/2003 7:15:04 PM PDT · 15 of 66
    Derrald to Derrald
    Look! Here's that evil bastard Tim Robbins hanging out with the FDNY at an event designed to fund raise for those who lost their lives on 911 as well as to help fund the FDNY! GRRR!
  • Why the Grits didn't appeal gay marriage

    06/23/2003 7:06:10 PM PDT · 9 of 19
    Derrald to RJayneJ
    Seeing as how we have no jurisdiction over Canada, I guess so. Why does that bother you?
  • Hollywood stars ask governor not to cut funding for arts programs [Robbins alert]

    06/23/2003 7:04:37 PM PDT · 12 of 66
    Derrald to mykdsmom
    Knock him all you want, this guy drove 56 straight hours to get to NYC after 9/11, when he found out that all flights had been cancelled.

    And as per the philanthropy, educate yourself a little.

    Tim Robbins is a member/contributor of the Liberty Hill Foundation, Leary firefighters foundation, and the Cam Neely Foundation off the top of my head, and he's not just the type who gives money and goes to sleep. He shows up constantly to help raise more cash after donating his own.

    So, before you say he doesn't dish out the cash, check yourself out and ask if you would have driven 56 hours to NYC just to donate blood.

  • Why the Grits didn't appeal gay marriage

    06/23/2003 6:53:11 PM PDT · 6 of 19
    Derrald to Clive
    I've been hearing a lot about this. leaving me to think, what's the big deal? Canada's gay policy has no bearing on the US. So, why is it everyone is losing their head over it?
  • 'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms

    06/22/2003 8:55:20 PM PDT · 306 of 1,219
    Derrald to ALS
    I'll take your advice then. night night and sweet dreams. Oh, and tell me how your hat tastes come morning.
  • 'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms

    06/22/2003 8:53:09 PM PDT · 299 of 1,219
    Derrald to ALS
    I'm tired of this argument. You can say that implication isn't real all you want. Try that next time you're at a bank and a man asks for money. In your world, without connotation, the man who says "I want $50" and has a withdrawal slip in his hand is exactly the same as the man who says the same thing with a gun in his hand.

    To win your argument, bank robbers are the same as bank customers. Good for you. Now, get back to proving that evolution, in your convoluted cephalic region, is the immediate adaptation to immediate stimuli, so I can eat my hat.

  • 'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms

    06/22/2003 8:49:49 PM PDT · 294 of 1,219
    Derrald to ALS
    okay, then evolution is the idea that "things get stuff randomly whenever they want" and not "tiny differentiations lead to better adaptations that lead to a species overhaul over the long run."

    I'll believe you. You are absolutely right, IF you can find one source that states evolution is the idea of immediate adaptation to an immediate situation rather than the gradual adaptation to a series of situations. If you can prove this, you win. Otherwise, you have to concede that you have no idea what in the world evolution is, that you need to read/study a little bit more, and that you need to eat your hat.

  • 'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms

    06/22/2003 8:45:32 PM PDT · 285 of 1,219
    Derrald to ALS
    It's called connotation. IF you attach an image of an angry god along with this caption (yours): ""Some seem to "get it" a little too late," the inferrence is that the man in the cartoon is going to incur god's wrath and/or go to hell.

    10 out of 10 people understand that. Knowing that 10 out of 10 people understand that there is such a thing as connotation, and that it indeed is used often, the only outcome is that you must not be a person. Just making sense here.

  • 'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms

    06/22/2003 8:41:51 PM PDT · 276 of 1,219
    Derrald to ALS
    NO ONE EVER SAID THAT THE LIZARDS SPROUTED WINGS! You said this. Repeat after me: I said the Lizards sprouted wings. get it? YOU said the lizards sprouted wings. I said that you are nuts, and the only thing evolution would have proved is how lizards got long tongues.

    Are you the kid, who, in the third grade, went up to another kid and said "You said that this rock could not be thrown over this wall!" then threw the rock over the wall and said "I win!"? Because that's the exact same logic you're employing here.

    Argue with the logic of evolution, not your own convoluted thought. Then, we'll have a discussion.

  • 'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms

    06/22/2003 8:37:31 PM PDT · 263 of 1,219
    Derrald to ALS
    If I'm looking at Guernica and the guy next to me says "wow, those Spaniards sure got what was coming to them," I'm not supposed to believe that he has a thing against the Spanish? Your argument would hold water, but you CAPTIONED THE FREAKING CARTOON WITH YOUR OWN COMMENT, thus flavoring it with your opinion. Then, you yelled at me for inferring something from your opinion, NOT THE CARTOON.

    Seriously, this has been going on for quite a while and you still have yet to egt it. Are you so dense that light bendsas it approaches you?

  • 'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms

    06/22/2003 8:34:23 PM PDT · 255 of 1,219
    Derrald to ALS
    I'm using evolution. You said that the lizards would sprout wings to chase the butterflies. This shows you do not understand what evolution is. I, therefore, explained to you what evolution is. You were arguing against LSD-induced hallucinations of a beach bum, while believing that you were arguing against the idea of evolution. I was pointing you in this crazy place called "the right direction."
  • 'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms

    06/22/2003 8:31:28 PM PDT · 245 of 1,219
    Derrald to Jorge
    damn, ya got me there Jorge. I won't repeat the same worn-out arguments. I'll just say THAT SOUNDS LIKE AN EXCELLENT ARGUMENT FOR ID without backing up my claim in the least. Sounds like fun! shall we continue our debate here on out, on your terms? Let me shorten the result for you:


    Reason: But it's been shown that there are indeed many transitional fossils


    Reason: And, the speed of light decaying is based on false studies


    Reason: Good for you... I'm going to, uh, get my head out of the sand now...

  • 'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms

    06/22/2003 8:27:12 PM PDT · 236 of 1,219
    Derrald to ALS
    "Some seem to "get it" a little too late"

    This quote, combined with an image of an atheist being pointed at and surprised by God, is intended to invoke images of wrath and hell. If it isn't, then the English language has no meaning. If your argument is based on the English language having no meaning then dog fire train assimilate callipygous, my friend.

  • 'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms

    06/22/2003 8:21:29 PM PDT · 227 of 1,219
    Derrald to ALS
    I was pointing out that he's taking any argument and turning it into whatever he wants. You want to turn this into an actual supporting hypothesis for evolution...

    anywho, as it goes, the ones with longer tongues were more able to catch the faster butterflies. those faster butterflies were healthier for those lizards. therefore, the ones with longer tongues were more fit to survive than the shorter-tongued ones whenever food later became scarce. so, lizards, over time, developed long tongues. But, logic isn't needed... right? We are supposed to believe that evolution means "Things sprout stuff at random because they want to!"

    If you wish to argue against logic, please understand the logic with which you are arguing, instead of making an erroneous assumption

  • 'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms

    06/22/2003 8:16:10 PM PDT · 215 of 1,219
    Derrald to ALS
    So the image of God scaring an atheist along with the caption that some don't get it until it's too late does not invoke any images of god's wrath or hell?

    then it must invoke images of fluffy kittens! Watch as I apply the logic of "There's no such thing as implication!" to everything!

    Look at the man walking on the sidewalk! "Hello, man on the sidewalk! You are the reason our world is going to explode into a ball of fire ignited by evil!"

    [Man on the sidewalk: Are you saying I'm evil?!

    Me: Of course not!

    Ahhhh, the security of saying things indirectly, then being able to defend myself with "I never said that which I directly implied!"

    And I though evolution was supposed to be based on screwy logic.

  • 'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms

    06/22/2003 8:11:02 PM PDT · 206 of 1,219
    Derrald to Jorge
    "I found it to be an excellent argument for ID."

    Hey, this penny has copper-like qualities. I bet you think that's an excellent argument for ID. re-iteration: no one listens to a drone.
  • 'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms

    06/22/2003 7:52:02 PM PDT · 184 of 1,219
    Derrald to ALS
    did not cite that anywhere in my post. Said you were trying to intimidate with the fear of god's wrath and hell. You distorted this into the idea that I fear hell, by trying to ask a seemingly innocuous question, hoping I would say yes, then saying that evolution does not back up the existence of hell.

    Unfortunately, your tactic of distorting what someone says and trying to make a trap for them has failed. I do not fear hell, I only find it frustrating that when your creationist/intelligentdesign/whatevercodenameyoucameupwiththisweekforyourostrichheadapproach argument fails, you can only resort to "Fear the wrath of god and an eternity in hell!" while at the same time subscribing to the people who have always placed as the cornerstone of their arguments that evolutionists use intimidation.

    sidebar: if one says 2+2 is 7, and a 4-year old says 2+2 is 4, doo-doo-head, one must not get into "He called me a name!" It doesn't make one any more right.

  • 'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms

    06/22/2003 7:40:59 PM PDT · 168 of 1,219
    Derrald to ALS
    ah, of course... the classic. You dont believe me? Then YOU'LL SPEND ETERNITY IN HELL!!!!!

    Wasn't it the evolutionists who were supposed to be initmidators?

  • 'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms

    06/22/2003 7:05:31 PM PDT · 140 of 1,219
    Derrald to Jorge
    Did you even read my post? Hey, the sky is blue (AN EXCELLENT ARGUMENT FOR ID) And, uh, my cat is a calico (AN EXCELLENT ARGUMENT FOR ID)

    And the idea that the speed of light has slowed down is based on the measurements of two scientists from the 1600's who actually got very close, giving themselves a 5% margin of error either way. The Australian scientist Setterfield took the highest margin of error from these measurements to state that the speed of light in 1600 was over 300,000 km/sec. Setterfield, of course, ignored the fact that 1600 measurement devices were hardly at the level they are today and that the scientists had allowed for a large margin of error that included today's known constant "C." He then published these findings, much to the happiness of CSers and IDers everywhere. The moment someone investigated, though, his fraud was discovered. If you wish to read Setterfield's original erroneous 'study', tis cited here: (Setterfield, 1981, cited in Strahler, 1990, p. 116). (AN EXCELLENT ARGUMENT FOR ...oh)

    And I thought it was the evolution side of the argument that was supposed to be close-minded? If it can't be explained, don't immediately make it into the "God did it" argument, and if you do - be damned sure you can back it up with a reasonable explanation. Otherwise, you're a drone. And people don't listen to drones.

  • 'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms

    06/22/2003 6:52:50 PM PDT · 114 of 1,219
    Derrald to Jorge
    No. It's an argument that blood cannot exist without clotting. It's not an argument for evolution or for creation. IDers and CSers always love to take any argument in the world and state that it proves they're right.

    Blood cannot exist without clotting, the CS/ID argument: Therefore, God was thinking when he created it. The evolutionary argument: Therefore, the stem cells that divide into every other cell acquired this differentiation through slight differences as their organisms became more complex.

    There is a reasonable argument either way, so don't try to take the "I can't think of it any other way in 5 seconds, so CS/ID must be right!" approach.

  • 'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms

    06/22/2003 6:37:36 PM PDT · 83 of 1,219
    Derrald to Jorge
    Actually, eurythrocytes, leukocytes, thrombocytes, all are produced from one type of master blood stem cell, so it is conceivable that a being entirely lacking of thrombocytes could easily receive them, as the master blood cell holds the key to all types of blood cell. So, in the model of evolution, blood did not occur first, and then things bled to death. Rather, when blood came about, the entire package came with it. In short, blood never did exist without the clotting mechanism and the entire assumption that we had to learn to clot is based upon a rather flawed understanding of human physiology.