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  • Same-Sex Marriage: Hijacking the Civil Rights Legacy

    06/04/2006 1:13:46 PM PDT · 12 of 22
    ExPatInFrance to DBeers

    Homosexuality is not based on religion. There are homosexuals of all religious faiths.

  • Same-Sex Marriage: Hijacking the Civil Rights Legacy

    06/04/2006 12:59:16 PM PDT · 10 of 22
    ExPatInFrance to DBeers
    As th mother of 2 gay adult children I can not agree with any fo the article.

    "What makes a gay activist's aspiration to overturn thousands of years of universally recognized morality and practice a "right"? Why should an institution designed for the reproduction of civil society and the rearing of children in a moral environment"

    For thousands of years there have been homosexual persons. Just because they are in the minority does not mean that they should not have the same rights as heterosexuals.

    What really bothers me is the tone of this article. Very condescending. Especially the words "reproduction of civil society" as if the only "civil" people on the earth are heterosexual. As far as the rearing of children, well would you think that a teacher with a masters degree in special education, teaching children with autism and her partner a physician, like they would not be outstanding at raising and nurturing children?

    You people on this bandwagon need to find more productive things to do with your time then to persecute people who are attracted to their same sex and really just want to be left alone and enjoy a good life together, including raising their children.

    I have been on freerepublic long enough for you to realize that not everybody on this website agrees with this ideology. Not everybody who doesn't agree with you is a "plant" I can't think of the right word, but you know what it is. There are plenty of Log Cabin Republicans. Are you going to throw out Dick Cheney form the Republican Party, his daughter is gay. He doesn't agree with the hetrosexual agenda.

    Heck even Dick Cheny does not agree ith this heterosexual agenda. I have never understood why the heterosexual zealots are so interested in what their neighbors are doing in the privacy of their own homes? I am totally supportive of gays being able to marry and have the exact same rights as heterosexuals. Why not? And it IS a civil rights issue. It is their civil right to have these same freedoms and benefits as heterosexuals.

    It is the same exact thing as the civil rights movement of the 60's, when people of color marched for the same freedoms as white Americans.

    here is the deal, as for statistics, read the surveys young Americans like 90% are supportive of gay rights. This will be the same thing that happened in my parents generation. The older people were racist, racist to the core. Remember George Wallace standing on the steps of the University baring the black students form entering? The younger generation saw the inequity and they changed, for the better.

    The exact same thing is happening right now, just you wait and see, the younger generation fo Americans who have grown up with young people who were never in the closet, and have been friends with them, this younger generation will vote for civil rights for gays and lesbians. It won't be long now. Not long at all. It will happen in my lifetime and I can't wait.

    Before you even begin- I am not at all interested in your bible verses. We have a form of government that has a separation between church and state. Your religion is your religion not mine, religion is not the basis for the laws of this country. If you want to live in a country that bases their laws on religion please go talk to the Afghanistan people and ask them how good it worked for them.

    Civil rights for gays will happen sooner than you think, and you will be surprised that it is not going to affect you one whit. The earth isn't going to come crashing down because a teacher and a doctor decide to marry.
  • Schiavo Autopsy Report to Be Released (Wednesday)

    06/15/2005 12:51:26 AM PDT · 12 of 42
    ExPatInFrance to STARWISE

    SW,
    Thanks for posting this. From the WWWTheEmpireJournal.com

    Front Page story about the autopsy report being released today, there was a link where you could order a copy of the autopsy report mailed to you. Terri Died March 31,2005. at http://www.co.pinellas.fl.us/forensics/Autopsy_Request/autopsy_request.htm,

  • Congratulations Michael, now please, get help

    06/14/2005 3:53:10 PM PDT · 533 of 609
    ExPatInFrance to blueblazes; MizSterious

    Nice chatting with you. I do have to go to bed now it is almost 1am and i have a lot fo work to do on the farm tomorrow.

  • Congratulations Michael, now please, get help

    06/14/2005 3:43:07 PM PDT · 524 of 609
    ExPatInFrance to MizSterious

    You wrote: And don't forget--Jackson used Pelican's services before he got locked up--think he continued to use his firm without Pelicano once he was locked up. Many similarities!

    My Reply: What is Pelican's Services?

  • Congratulations Michael, now please, get help

    06/14/2005 3:41:32 PM PDT · 521 of 609
    ExPatInFrance to blueblazes

    How could you call MJJ Gay? At best he is Bi-Sexual, look he was married to a woman, twice.

  • Congratulations Michael, now please, get help

    06/14/2005 3:32:45 PM PDT · 512 of 609
    ExPatInFrance to blueblazes

    You wrote:If you have actually HEARD these people talking today, I think you would have to be honest and just admit...they ARE morons. Frankly even if they agreed with me, well...I'd be kinder in my verbiage, but these folks are not Mensa candidates. They're a bunch of witless dummies -whether they agree with me or not. A moron is a moron.

    My Reply: Just becasue people do not "perform" well on televison does not mean they are morons. Being on tv can be intimidating. I read their Jury forms over on www.CourtTV well I read some of them. They do not appear to me to be morons. Just average Joe Aericans, called in to do their duty and they did it.

  • Congratulations Michael, now please, get help

    06/14/2005 3:29:06 PM PDT · 506 of 609
    ExPatInFrance to blueblazes

    You wrote: don't agree, alas. I don't think this jury gives a damn. I don't think they care if Jackson was molesting these children or not. I think they'd give him a pass even if he did it right in front of them. I truly don't believe they care. This was an opportunity to stop this man from molesting children, and they let it go. WHy? They just don't care. They'd rather go on TV and try to make some money for themselves. Too much of America has become a nation of crooks , weasels and degenerates.

    My Reply: My oh my you are awfully cynical aren't you? 12 people came to a unanimous decision, surely thay all can't have book deals in the wings can they?

  • Suit Says Missing Smile Cost Job at Sam's Club

    06/14/2005 3:17:42 PM PDT · 72 of 87
    ExPatInFrance to Terriergal

    It has not been fun, nor funny, to make fun of people with disabilities in a very long time. It just takes some people longer than others I guess....

    Glad you didn't lsit them all though, it would have taken you a long time...

  • Suit Says Missing Smile Cost Job at Sam's Club

    06/14/2005 3:03:40 PM PDT · 71 of 87
    ExPatInFrance to Proud_texan

    You wrote: The way I understand Florida's statute 440.185 they (Sam's Club) could not, legally, turn down her claim. The law requires them to report the accident to their carrier 7 days after receiving it. I see no provision that allows the employer to turn it down if the statue is followed.
    There are exceptions such as failing to notify the employer within 30 days of the accident in which case the employer can bar the request. Source is: http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0440/SEC185.HTM&Title=-%3e2004-%3eCh0440-%3eSection%20185

    I suspect there's more to this story than one party is telling aka I smell a whopper.


    My Reply: I would not say a whopper, based on the fact that the woman had her job for 10 years. There may be more to it thatn we are aware of. Perhaps she slipped at work, hurt her back but didn't report it right away. Perhaps she continued to have back trouble and reported it beyond the reporting deadline. Could be something like that. But any woman who rides a bike to work and she doesn't seem all that young to me and then secondly takes a bus an hour each way back and forth to work, doesn't seem like a slacker to me. + the fact that the minister at her church asked for help for her, he must have thought she was nice or he would not have done that, plus the woman at church who took her in, she has been living with her for 2 years so the petit woman must be pleasent enough.

    The longivity of all of her activities solidifies in my mind that there came onto the sceen an egomaniac boss who for some reason we don't know about, decided to dump her, after 10 years, albeit not all of those with Sams Club (or was it Walmart?). I have worked for absolute megalomaniac bosses so I know they are out there.

  • Suit Says Missing Smile Cost Job at Sam's Club

    06/14/2005 2:56:30 PM PDT · 69 of 87
    ExPatInFrance to Terriergal

    You Wrote: Of all the rude comments in this thread, you picked that one to jump on?
    You were comment #3. The grumpy one was rude too. That was #2. Happy now? (no dwarf pun intended) That's as far as I got looking for rude comments.

    My Reply: Nicely said :)

  • New search for Natalee, unconfirmed reports that a body has been found

    06/14/2005 1:47:36 PM PDT · 54 of 98
    ExPatInFrance to possumdawg

    Yeah poor Jonbennet Ramsey. I still wonder what happened to her. Who did it. I wonder if when we get to heaven we get all the answers to the unsolved mysteries of the world. Do you think that will happen in heaven?

  • Congratulations Michael, now please, get help

    06/14/2005 1:44:51 PM PDT · 453 of 609
    ExPatInFrance to brownsfan

    You wrote:"The reasonings for their verdict were perfectly understandable, given the behavior of the mother and the lack of evidence that MJ did anything to her kid."

    I didn't follow it that closely, but that's the information I get. Not that MJ is totally innocent, just that there wasn't enough evidence in this one case.

    I'm a rebel, especially when it comes to protecting people from filth like this. I would have voted him guilty not because of the preponderance of evidence, but because of the pattern.

    My Reply: What pattern? The prosecution called 5 people for lack of a better word prior bad behaviour. 3 out of the 5 denied ever being inappropriately touched by MJJ.
    I couldn't have voted to convict either with those conflicts.

    Incidently I watched it live over here in France. It was surreal watching it in France, live what was happening in California.

  • New search for Natalee, unconfirmed reports that a body has been found

    06/14/2005 1:34:24 PM PDT · 43 of 98
    ExPatInFrance to possumdawg

    You wrote: What a sad story..At least the Atlanta Police Department isn't assisting in the investigation.

    My Reply: Could be worse, could be the Boulder Colorado Police Department investigating. If that was the case no one will ever know what happened to the poor girl.

  • Disabled Lawyer Offers Compelling Memoir Of Survival. Terri Dailies June 5

    06/14/2005 1:24:23 PM PDT · 367 of 1,140
    ExPatInFrance to trustandobey

    I have not heard that they have forgiven him. They may not be speaking his name but I don't recall that they have forgiven him. I think in order for them to grant forgivness he would have to repent first, wouldn't he?

  • Disabled Lawyer Offers Compelling Memoir Of Survival. Terri Dailies June 5

    06/14/2005 1:22:11 PM PDT · 366 of 1,140
    ExPatInFrance to Dante3

    That about sums up my opinion as well.
    Jesse is to quick to pull the race card. Talk about seeing life in black and white, that is all Jesse Jackson ever sees.

  • Michael Jackson Moonwalks Through Ten Count Verdict(Jackson To Play Vegas?)

    06/14/2005 1:20:52 PM PDT · 109 of 112
    ExPatInFrance to Sacajaweau

    Not being in the courtroom, I don't think the prosecution made the case either. I doubt if I would have voted to convict. The vast perponderance of the prosecution witnesses were not credible. I still remember Jay leno saying the kid sounded scripted. Kids can be great actors sometimes.

    To deny a person's freedom, to put them in jail, it is up to the state to prove their case. They had tons of opportunity, money and resources and there were not credible witnesses to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that MJ did molest this boy. Celebrat r no celebraty the prosecution did not prove their case. There was no smoking gun.

    And the only "child" pornography was a book given to michael I think by the author. He inscribed it with something like, I know you never had a childhood, yadda, yadda, yadda. If there was kiddie porn around I think the jury might have taken that into account. But there wasn't any. As for adult porn I read here on FR on a different thread that 12% of all website are porn websites, so ther are an awful lot of porn consumers who are not out molesting bosy. So I don't think you can make a correlation between adult porn and pedophilia. It was a weak case and the jury would not convict and deny anyone theri freedom on such a weak case. IMHO.

  • Michael Jackson Moonwalks Through Ten Count Verdict(Jackson To Play Vegas?)

    06/14/2005 1:12:11 PM PDT · 108 of 112
    ExPatInFrance to Paleo Conservative

    You wrote:I wish he would move to France. He could get a house in the same neighborhood as Roman Polansky.

    My Reply: I think he is better suited for California. We get more than enough despots and former dictators, Michael needs to stay home and sleep in his own bed, ALONE!

  • Michael Jackson Moonwalks Through Ten Count Verdict(Jackson To Play Vegas?)

    06/14/2005 1:08:30 PM PDT · 107 of 112
    ExPatInFrance to Humidston

    You wrote:I'm waiting with baited breath to hear how the 23 yr old, 1993 victim's testimony wasn't "believable" by the jury as well. I hear he broke down in tears when told to relive his molestation for the courtroom.

    I guess he wasn't believable either.

    My Reply: I would not give him a lot of credibility after all isn't he the one who got like 20 Million or something? Now ther is a real big incentive to drop crocodile tears.

  • Suit Says Missing Smile Cost Job at Sam's Club

    06/14/2005 1:00:40 PM PDT · 15 of 87
    ExPatInFrance to RushCrush
    I think the lady has a point. Everything in her story made good sense. i mean she road her bicycle to work, then she took a bus. She had her job for 10 years!

    She got hurt at work and Sams Club wouldn't cover her under Workman's Comp?

    The woman appears to be treated unfairly. Believe it or not there are many many people who are intolerant of persons with disabilities. I would say they work looking for an excuse.

    I HOPE she wins, gets her job back and the boss gets fired.
  • Disabled Lawyer Offers Compelling Memoir Of Survival. Terri Dailies June 5

    06/14/2005 12:42:26 PM PDT · 363 of 1,140
    ExPatInFrance to Dante3; All

    I actually thought the most moving words were by the Revrend Jessy Jackson. I can still hear hi say, "This is immoral." You know the way he talks with that southern accent how he says the word immoral kind of mushy with no hard accent.

    I actually wished the Schindlers had called on Jessy Jackson and not Randal Terry to be their spokesperson. Jessy Jackson was a very eloquent speaker and IMHO could have brought people together on behalf of Terri. I though Randall Terry polarized the public and the Main Stream Media lashed out and lumped everyone who supported Terrias one of those darn, "Fundamentalist Christians again." Thus they could be ignored, disposed of just like poor Terri.

    I am NOT a huge jessy Jackson fan, I especially find it ironic that he was counseling Bill & Hillary with theri marriage problems, considering Jessy didn't appear to be such a star player in the monogomous marriage game. With that said, I still think the most moving moments were by Jessy Jackson. IMHO

  • Disabled Lawyer Offers Compelling Memoir Of Survival. Terri Dailies June 5

    06/14/2005 12:34:26 PM PDT · 362 of 1,140
    ExPatInFrance to trustandobey; All

    If you go to www.TheEmpireJournal.com
    And read the news article, there is a link where you can request a copy of the Autopsy Report.
    I clicked on the link and made my request.
    They will send it out via e-mail.

    A I correct that Michael still has not had a memorial service for terri nor done anything with her ashes?

  • Disabled Lawyer Offers Compelling Memoir Of Survival. Terri Dailies June 5

    06/13/2005 10:15:00 AM PDT · 339 of 1,140
    ExPatInFrance to floriduh voter

    Thank you for not bashing the Gays an Lesbians.
    To often the MSM wanted to pigeon hole Terri's supporters as Fundamentalists Christian. her merder was truly a Human Rights viloation that people of all persuasions saw and recognized for what it was.

  • TERRI SCHINDLER (Schiavo)DAILIES May 11, 2005: DEMAND IMPEACHMENT OF JUDGE GREER

    05/30/2005 5:42:57 PM PDT · 445 of 682
    ExPatInFrance to Sun

    We should be getting the Autopsy Report any day now. They said on May 10th a couple more weeks and it would be done.

  • French Reject EU Constitution, Gov't Says

    05/30/2005 4:58:57 PM PDT · 119 of 126
    ExPatInFrance to Michael81Dus

    Michael,
    I hate Chirac but I have to give him credit, at least he put it out their for the people to vote on. Countires don't have to have a referendum, they can approve it through their Parliments. At least Chirac put it up for people to vote on.

    I also agree with you. This comes to fast after the Euro Integration. People are still getting used to the Euro. + It did give to much power to Brussels. The Comissions make laws and the members of the comissions are NOT elected. It reminds me of Communism, when un-elected Eurocrats make the laws and there is no way to vote them out of office becasue they are not elected in the first place.

    More time is needed.

  • LIVE Thread: France votes on EU Constitution [Schadenfreude Alert]

    05/30/2005 4:48:00 PM PDT · 189 of 190
    ExPatInFrance to Destro
    Well obviously it is pretty big news in France, "Non!" I think it was the right vote. The Constituition was 400 pages long and people just didn't understand it. The French wouldn't vote for something they didn't understand. I read up a bit on the EU Constitution and I am not supportive of it either. It gives the decision making over to Commissions who are not elected. Whatever the Commissions decide becomes EU law. I hate Chirac, he reminds me of an actor, and the way he talks is so condescending, but I have to give him credit, he put the issue to a referendum and he didn't have to. The countries can legally ratify it through their Parliaments, there does not have to be a referendum, which is what I believe Germany did, which is why Schroeder is in such trouble right now.

    Honestly I have not seen any coverage about loosing farm subsidies, and I am an olive farmer and I get subsidies. The No vote was because the French did not want to cede their right of self government to Brussels. In Brussels they already call the Parliaments of the member states the "Legacy Parliaments." That should tell you right there how much power would go to Brussels and these commissions. French love to strike and force their governments to meet their demands through strike actions, which do work. Moving a great amount of the law making to Brussels would destroy a big stick that the general population enjoys and utilizes. And why NOT strike, you get full pay while you are on strike. I can't see the French ever voting to dilute their rights, they love them to much.
  • Scott Thomas’ Fight for “Life”

    05/30/2005 4:30:17 PM PDT · 52 of 59
    ExPatInFrance to floriduh voter

    Tutstar, Thanks for sharing this article with us. Oh how I wish the Schindlers could have gotten Guardianship for Terri.

  • Case Similar to Terri Schiavo's Has Wife Deciding Her Husband's Fate Email this article

    05/29/2005 3:19:10 PM PDT · 265 of 268
    ExPatInFrance to eyeflyfish2; tutstar

    Please let all of us on FR know if you become aware that Freep help is needed for Scott. Until then we are Standing By.

  • Pepsi Packed with Pig Parts? (Islamofacists want to know!)

    05/21/2005 2:07:31 PM PDT · 45 of 103
    ExPatInFrance to expatguy

    THANK YOU Expatguy for translating this for us.
    I really appreciate it.

  • Surgeon Goes From 'Brilliant' to Banned

    05/21/2005 1:05:46 PM PDT · 67 of 136
    ExPatInFrance to B4Ranch

    You wrote:
    There is only two professions where licensed and titled individuals 'practice' their trade. Lawyers and doctors!

    Everyone else just performs their duties without practicing on the client.

    My Reply: I would add CPA's to your list. Get a bad CPA and you can be out a ton of money. A good CPA might even be more important than a good lawyer. You use your CPA a heck of a lot more than your lawyer.

  • Surgeon Goes From 'Brilliant' to Banned

    05/21/2005 1:02:32 PM PDT · 65 of 136
    ExPatInFrance to syriacus

    You wrote:
    Dr Patel was practising surgery in New York, before an April 2001 order from the New York Board for Professional Medical Conduct forced him to surrender his physician's licence.
    [snip]Among the cases that led to the Oregon Board of Medical Examiners' findings in November 2000 were:

    • A man, 65, who died in November 1994 two days after Dr Patel performed pancreatic surgery. He had seven litres of blood in his abdomen.

    • A woman, 83, who died in November 1996 of post-operative complications, seven days after Dr Patel performed pancreatic and colon surgery. She was found with a litre of blood in her abdomen.

    • A man, 67, who died in September 1997 the day after Dr Patel performed liver surgery. He had almost two litres of blood in his abdomen.

    • A man, 59, who permanently lost gastrointestinal function in August 1997 after Dr Patel performed a colostomy "backwards".

    My Reply: Hmmm looks to me like he ight be a "brilliant" cutter but not much of a sewer (spelling? to sew)

  • Meet the Man in Middle of the Alleged Feeding Tube Fight

    05/21/2005 12:52:49 PM PDT · 83 of 84
    ExPatInFrance to tutstar

    Tutstar, thanks for keeping us posted. I have been wondering what is happening with Scott Thomas.

    Did the mother ever call you BTW?

  • TERRI SCHINDLER (Schiavo)DAILIES May 11, 2005: DEMAND IMPEACHMENT OF JUDGE GREER

    05/21/2005 12:34:45 PM PDT · 323 of 682
    ExPatInFrance to tutstar
    tut, thanks for hte ping, well somebody pinged me! Was it you?

    Sick isn't it, Terri's body wasn't even cold yet and Michael filed for the estate. Greedy B*st*rd. Wonder how much life insurance he had on Terri.

    We must never forget that at the beginning when Michael started on his plan to murder Terri, Terri's assets were big and fat. Michael would have had no way of knowing that he would see very little of her money.

    Instead of rehab, her money went to lawyers hell bent on killing her. They used her own money to kill her. Ironic isn't it?

    No lock of Terri's hair for her mother, no burial, cremation and apparently he has never had a memorial service for her, her parents do not even know where her ashes are. i am sure the Schindlers wil take comfort in knowing that the Pope himself knows about Terri and was pained. God Bless the Schindelr family becasue of their bravery, to fight with everything they had, and publically, not in some out of the way courtroom, we all learned that forced euthanasia is an enemy we might fight tooth and nail. It is happening now in our lifetime, in our era. We ahve the Schindler family to thank for waking us all up. i feel bad for the whole family, still, I still feel bad for them, 2 months is ot enough for me to forget. Actually I wil ever forget.
  • Saddam to sue over prison photos (Ponders Book/Movie Deal/sarc)

    05/20/2005 5:09:12 PM PDT · 57 of 70
    ExPatInFrance to SkyDancer

    Since I'm living in France and I don't speak all that much French I get most of my entertainment ont he internet. Yesterday I was reading about all these protests all over the world, which got started becasue of the Newswek debacle. I wish new Yorkers would get together and hold a big HUGE protests outside the embassies fo the countries where the protests are going on and hold up big signboards of WTC buring!

    I read on FR yesterday, that I think it was the king of Saudia Arabia who said, "Not all Muslims are terrorists, but I msut admit all terrorists are Muslims" When I see the anti American ralleys and protests by Muslims around the world holding up their Koran's I whish to remind them of what (I think it was hime) the King of Saudia Arabia said. I am starting to finally believe that the world is coming to a Holy War. Just lately I ahve become convinced, Before this I was not ready to paint a broad brush against the Muslim Religion. But seein those Koran's held up as they burned the American and British flags, I think Bush is right. The world, and to insure our safety and freedom, needs to see democracy created in more of these Muslim countries with governments uilt on human rights for all people, not based on religion.

    I think the underpants photo is going to explode. I live next to Marseille France which has the largest concentration and population of muslims outside a muslim country. I wonder what the next few days will be like? I dont't think the underpants photo is going to play out all that well in the world.

  • Predators & Pornography. A disturbing link.

    05/20/2005 4:57:20 PM PDT · 621 of 645
    ExPatInFrance to Bird Jenkins
    Thanks bird! I do agree that XR7 holds moronic viewpoints. I mean he/she said Capitalism is idolatry!
  • Saddam to sue over prison photos (Ponders Book/Movie Deal/sarc)

    05/20/2005 4:48:47 PM PDT · 53 of 70
    ExPatInFrance to SkyDancer

    You wrote: Al J'(Al Jazeera) won't print those pictures because they demean Saddam but it's ok to show journalists being beheaded .....

    My Reply: What a GREAT point!

  • Predators & Pornography. A disturbing link.

    05/20/2005 4:40:29 PM PDT · 619 of 645
    ExPatInFrance to Bird Jenkins

    Bird, I would appreciate it very much if you would not use the word, "retard" I know I am going to sound horribly lefty for writing this and I really am NOT, but please consider if it is good taste. There are many people who are cognitivly disabled, and "retard" is a word that is painfull and hurts families who have a family member who is cognitively disabled.

    Moron, I'll give you moron and I also agree with your opinion!

  • Predators & Pornography. A disturbing link.

    05/20/2005 4:33:32 PM PDT · 618 of 645
    ExPatInFrance to XR7

    I happen to know several very nice homosexual men and women and I have news for you, they are not homosexual becasue of watching porn!

  • Predators & Pornography. A disturbing link.

    05/20/2005 4:23:35 PM PDT · 616 of 645
    ExPatInFrance to Modernman

    XR7 wrote: Prostitution and capitalism are both forms of idolatry.

    You Wrote: You're opposed to capitalism, too?

    Where are we getting these newbies these days?

    My reply: So XR7 believes that Capitalism is idolatry, hmmm I will read his/her posts with a more critical eye.

    Actually Modernman, I think you offered the best debate on the topic. AND I still am opposed to porn, think that people who consume it do so at theri own peril, it is a poor substituition for human contact and interaction.

    BUT in this country we don't want government running our lives. At first f I could be shown a direct corralation between porn and crime I think I could have justified a ban. However the web statistics clearly show that much to my surprise porn is a lot bigger product than I thought it was.

    If it is consumed/watched by so many millions, and 99.9% of the consumers are not out committing sex crimes or other crimes then you can't really deny the public their right to have porn if they want it. There is no statistical correlation between porn and crime. We just don't go around banning everything that is not good for you. The sickos who can't handle it and go out and commit crimes, they probablyw ould have done so anyway, porn or no porn.

    When I brought up "home movies" between a married couple none of the anti-porn people could manage a decent argument that this variety of porn should be banned. I mean if you are going to ban porn, then you ban it all, right? If personal porn is okay with 'yall then what really is the difference between personal porn and public porn? Both versions are, "caught on tape"

    As a closing thought things that are done in the privacy of your own homes, between consenting adults are really nobody elses business. 'Taint my bidness.

    Now let's ban violent movies, which I think are even worse than porn. Also I think we should ban music which encourages violence, particually against wimmin. Some of the music is so slutty it makes you want to throw up. If we are going to ban somethings, then I go for violent movies and slutty music. Once those 2 are banned we can come back and talk about if porn should next be up on the top of the "Let's ban this" list. Porn is not on the public airwaves, nobody is exposed to it unless they actively go look for it, I am on the internet all the time and I have never found it, EVER, I guess if thaaaaats what some people want, well okay, I'm protected from not having to see it.

  • Predators & Pornography. A disturbing link.

    05/20/2005 4:31:05 AM PDT · 503 of 645
    ExPatInFrance to little jeremiah

    lj
    Obviously no one would ever condone or protect anything to do with exploitation of children, even fictionally, it's wrong, no one here will disagre with you. It is the adult behaviour that is under discussion, how adults interact with themselves or others.

  • Predators & Pornography. A disturbing link.

    05/20/2005 4:28:56 AM PDT · 502 of 645
    ExPatInFrance to oceanperch

    You are a cool mom!
    Yep, kids have to grow up and make their own decisions, right or wrong. I would rather see my kids run home with their tail between their legs after having done something stupid rather than never leaving the house tied to my apron strings.

    And FYI, my kids turned out GREAT! I'm a proud mom of 2 adults contributing to the general good.

  • Predators & Pornography. A disturbing link.

    05/19/2005 6:16:17 PM PDT · 476 of 645
    ExPatInFrance to floriduh voter

    me thinks you got pinged to a wrong thread. Did you read this topic? Your post isn't making much sense contextually

  • UK scientists clone human embryo

    05/19/2005 5:32:38 PM PDT · 19 of 52
    ExPatInFrance to MHGinTN

    You wrote: We resisted the use of vaccinations for the little one in our home if the vaccine was derived from fetal tissue harvesting

    My Reply: Can you clarify that for me? Are vaccines made out of fetal tissue or what?

  • Predators & Pornography. A disturbing link.

    05/19/2005 5:19:06 PM PDT · 465 of 645
    ExPatInFrance to floriduh voter

    So you are over here lurking are you???

  • Predators & Pornography. A disturbing link.

    05/19/2005 5:17:54 PM PDT · 464 of 645
    ExPatInFrance to cyborg

    Again a difference between looking and "lusting looking"
    Darn hard to keep men from looking, in my experience. Easier for you to change your attitude and let it roll off of you and not bother you than try and cahnge a man form jsut plain 'ole normal looking at pretty girls. Again difference between "looking" and "lusting looking" How men would looka t strippers that is what I would call "lusting looking"

  • Predators & Pornography. A disturbing link.

    05/19/2005 5:14:43 PM PDT · 460 of 645
    ExPatInFrance to cyborg

    You wrote: After ten years, what do they look like? They're not going to look like that forever. Men who like that sort of thing don't realize that. They try to say it's fantasy and other rationalizations but it's all BS.

    My Reply: I don't think men care about 10 years from now. They like what they like in the "present" time. Sex is a head (no pun intended) game it is NOT really that much about your body shape. I mean some of it is, as long as you are at least average pretty and body. Don't underestimate men's desire of fantasy!!!!!!!!! The key is to keep the fantasy alive in YOUR relationship, A little fantasy is a GOOD thing, beleive me along about year 7 & 8 ti will sound better and better tyo YOU, not jsut to him.

    Men like fantasy, and I don't really think there is anything wrong with that.

  • Predators & Pornography. A disturbing link.

    05/19/2005 5:07:03 PM PDT · 456 of 645
    ExPatInFrance to cyborg

    My husband always looks at pretty girls. It has never bothered me. Even I look at them, I admire beauty. What he has not done is look at them, well in a "lusting" kind of way. I nevr had stretch marks so I am not able to comment on them.

  • Predators & Pornography. A disturbing link.

    05/19/2005 4:59:50 PM PDT · 450 of 645
    ExPatInFrance to frogjerk

    You wrote: Again, Alcohol is not immoral by it nature, pornography is. Alcohol can be drunk in moderation, can the same be said of pornography?

    My Reply: Porn in moderation? Hmmmmm well waht about reading a Penthouse or a Playboy, kind of soft porn, wouldn't that be porn in moderation?

  • Predators & Pornography. A disturbing link.

    05/19/2005 4:58:08 PM PDT · 447 of 645
    ExPatInFrance to cyborg

    Actually having babies makes them BIGGER, which the guys like. Don't worry about it. In a good loving relationship if you both can stay on < side of obease, when you are older it won't matter that you don't look the same as you did 30 years ago. Just remember HE doesn't look the same either. Just get him a viagra now and then for the hell of it, just to spice it up once in a while, and beleive me you are going to look like a sex kitten to him, Major *LOL*

  • Predators & Pornography. A disturbing link.

    05/19/2005 4:51:29 PM PDT · 446 of 645
    ExPatInFrance to Melas
    Whaaaat ever *LOL*
    Could be that you are just looking at the young ones and when you get older the fake boobs and the real boobs all droop a bit. Which is exactly the moment the supporting lingerie can spice things back ^