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  • Priebus, Giuliani, Gingrich plot Trump 'intervention': report

    08/03/2016 9:51:03 AM PDT · 98 of 155
    Finny to Angels27

    ADHD!

    {^)

    That’s precious!

  • {vanity} For all the Trumpsters

    05/03/2016 10:52:51 AM PDT · 565 of 565
    Finny to annieokie
    A liberal Republican strengthens leftism in BOTH parties, whereas a liberal Democrat strengthens leftism in only the Democrat party. I should know because I voted for liberal Republicans for more than 30 years, and you can blame ME for how we got here because I voted for it. If you voted for Romney, then you voted for aiding leftism from the Republican party. You had better ONLY blame leftism for why Romney lost. Otherwise, you are lying to yourself.

    You who voted for Romney voted for the greater of two evils.

  • {vanity} For all the Trumpsters

    05/03/2016 10:49:13 AM PDT · 564 of 565
    Finny to onyx
    Wow. A lot of them -- dozens if not hundreds -- have left quietly, FReepers I respected and followed for years. I come here to find out what they've been saying ... and they haven't posted here for weeks or months, or else now post only rarely when they used to post a lot.

    They have left quietly, and you don't even miss them.

    What's really sad is that at least one of them wept and prayed for your comfort, Onyx, when you were experiencing grief and pain -- only now to know that you don't miss her and are glad she went "quietly."

    For shame.

  • {vanity} For all the Trumpsters

    05/03/2016 10:47:55 AM PDT · 563 of 565
    Finny to onyx
    Wow. A lot of them -- dozens if not hundreds -- have left quietly, FReepers I respected and followed for years. I come here to find out what they've been saying ... and they haven't posted here for weeks or months, or else now post only rarely when they used to post a lot.

    They have left quietly, and you don't even miss them.

    What's really sad is that at least one of them wept and prayed for your comfort, Onyx, when you were experiencing grief and pain -- only now to know that you don't miss her and are glad she went "quietly."

    For shame.

  • The Latest: Trump says bathroom laws 'discriminatory'

    04/22/2016 12:37:11 PM PDT · 262 of 264
    Finny to don-o
    When Americans elect a liberal Democrat, it strengthens liberalism in the Democrat party.

    When Americans elect a liberal Republican, it strengthens liberalism in BOTH parties. Every time.

    Whatever justification you choose for voting for a liberal Republican in order to honor your dad who like mine sacrificed a lot so that we could vote -- remember that you will be voting FOR strengthening leftism in both parties, regardless of how you justify it.

  • Donald Trump: Ted Cruz An ‘Unstable Person,’ ‘Totally Controlled’ by Special Interests

    02/15/2016 12:16:19 PM PST · 98 of 148
    Finny to lodi90; marron
    You mean like Cruz supporters forgetting Ted Cruz dishonestly campaigned with Amnesty Ryan to enable Obama's secret trade agenda?

    Don't you just love those leftist talking points -- what would you do without them!! And you're a Republican, aren't you!! My how the party has evolved!

    Lodi, you are willing to vote for leftism. That you refuse to admit it is beside the point. You call yourself a "conservative" because you are SELF DECEIVING. You are also contemptible, IMO.

    Marron, there will be no "reuniting" with the likes of Lodi. There will only be incidences of the likes of Lodi fooling conservatives again .. and again ... and again ... and again, every time a leftist "conservative" steps up to face a true conservative and the likes of Lodi say, "Hey, let's try this guy!" instead of saying, "He belongs in the other party, ignore him."

    Marron and fellow conservatives, it's time to move on and cut your losses. "Conservatives" ala Lodi are not only frauds (intentionally or not, they are still frauds), they are DANGEROUS LIABILTIES to conservatism.

    "Reuniting" after all of this is over is the dream of a little girl who wants a pony.

    Understanding that some fellow patriots will betray anything -- themselves and their liberty -- in order to cling to a happy self-deception and that when it happens the only thing to do is to move on and leave them where they do the least harm, is the living reality of a mature adult who respects truth and life.

  • Donald Trump: Ted Cruz An ‘Unstable Person,’ ‘Totally Controlled’ by Special Interests

    02/15/2016 11:39:55 AM PST · 56 of 148
    Finny to marron
    Remember, we still have to be able to unite after the circular firing squad is over.

    Really! You are expecting wisdom to unite with self-deception and stupidity?

    "Unite" is the wrong word, marron.

    "Regain lost trust" is the phrase you're looking for.

    Elephants have long memories. After it's all over, "conservative" Trump supporters are going to have a very, very long row to hoe before they regain the trust, respect, or confidence of the conservatives whom they had fooled for YEARS -- up until only a few months ago.

    You are very badly mistaken if you think the remedy for such profound betrayal of moral principle is a simple reuniting of people registered in the same political party that fails to respect the difference between left and right.

  • Do Trump Voters Really Exist? How Both Parties Botched Iowa

    01/31/2016 1:10:36 PM PST · 68 of 69
    Finny to Aquamarine

    Amen, and thank you.

  • Do Trump Voters Really Exist? How Both Parties Botched Iowa

    01/31/2016 4:41:10 AM PST · 66 of 69
    Finny to Jim Robinson
    Dear Finny, Someone sent me a copy of your post from "over there."

    This one?

    " ... a willingness to alienate loyal donating FReepers is puzzling. For a guy like Trump, it would be a small investment reaping RICH returns by funding FR. However, I take Jim Robinson at face value that he is a true conservative. So I wonder -- why doesn't he see that by censoring those who civilly (if passionately and even angrily) express a particular conservative opinion in a discussion, he removes the thing that makes FR attractive? People aren't going to donate to something that lets them down.

    "The only way FR remains a genuine forum for conservatives to express opinion freely, is to adhere to the policy of ONLY censoring folks for profanity or personal attack devoid of issue relevance; zotting folks expressing leftist opinions or candidates, fine, but on FR, zotting conservatives for expressing civilly expressed if unpopular conservative opinion is killing the golden goose. A beautiful, complex, easy-to-navigate, efficient cyber community that is falling apart at the seams. It can be mended still.

    "But it would be just like Trump to use his money to kill a golden goose like FR in order to win."

    Sincerely, Jim, thanks for such a great place for so long.

  • Do Trump Voters Really Exist? How Both Parties Botched Iowa

    01/31/2016 4:03:29 AM PST · 65 of 69
    Finny to Jim Robinson
    Jim, thanks for the reply. Yes, you are right, it is NOT about you.

    For most of us here, Free Republic is about one thing, and one thing only:

    Free exchange of conservative political opinion.

    When FR ceases to become that, FR ceases to become attractive or useful.

  • Veterans' Groups Line up to Reject Money from Trump (if He is Even Raising Any)

    01/28/2016 10:45:44 AM PST · 145 of 170
    Finny to caww; All
    I can't resist bumping this in total:

    That's right....but I think Trump surpasses Obama quite a bit because he hasn't learned 'the skill set' Narcissists need to control the impulses we see playing out by Trump. Obama hides his well enough in public.....but Trump can't. Trump's a wonderful study of a Narcissist without a strong skill set and in full view of the audience, giving the Psychological Community front row seats which they're fabulously enjoying the study of. ......You generally don't have such an opportunity because most don't do well in therapy sessions because they need to control that environment as well....let alone see they have issues. Many successful business men are Narcissist or have some of their traits....but they have taken advice from their mentors or friends who are either stronger then they are or more stable because they use a skill set.

    It's all about protecting their fragile ego and shoring it up when their inner emotions get to rocking and rolling.....and that happens when they are afraid of loosing or even the smell of the possibility. Which we're watching play out currently with Trumps actions and his responses regarding the debate.

    Interesting is Cruz is using the word..."Afraid" when speaking about Trump.... he's quite aware of who he is dealing with and why he won't clobber Trump....rather he invites him one on one.....an escape....but Cruz is not one he wants to go up against and as that possibility draws closer Trump gets more afraid.....

  • Do Trump Voters Really Exist? How Both Parties Botched Iowa

    01/27/2016 6:12:58 PM PST · 53 of 69
    Finny to 2ndDivisionVet; caww; onyx; Jim Robinson; b9; Windflier; Norm Lenhart; libbylu; Marcella; don-o; ...
    According to a snapshot in time of 1,207 FReepers who've participated in discussions over the past six or seven weeks, almost 54% (648) either name Trump as an okay second choice, a distant second they'd hold their noses for, or out of the question entirely. A bit over 46% (559) prefer Trump.

    A minority that is, 46%, want Trump.

    At least, the ones who participated when it was still relatively tolerable to do so if you also happened to do something silly, like perceive and share the idea that Trump's "brand" of "brilliant business mind" (the thing his supporters are supposedly voting for, in essence) is BS -- he's third-rate with the real big boys at the same RE mogul game who are worth as much as four times what the Great Donald is.

    Trump is the ONLY one among them who deliberately made himself a celebrity everyone recognizes. That's all. FReepers are smart, there's a reason they come here -- a majority of them at best would have Trump as their second choice, a good number put him out of the question.

    Yet I would bet hard, cold cash that lurker who came to this site just to see what's up at FR, take a pulse, get the tone -- would read through a couple of threads and assume that Trump is wildly popular with the majority of conservatives and conservatives who reject him are so few that they don't even show up.

    But the reality is ... the Trumpers are the minority, about 46%.

    I moved three names from the non-Trump tally to the Trump tally because although these FReepers declare they prefer Cruz, the tone of their posts sure sounds the opposite. The tally is to find truth, not to advance an agenda. I want to know what real people are actually thinking, so I put them on the tally that I bet a casual reader would, as well.

    Such a tally is pointless now because the golden goose slayer Donald Trump has destroyed FR, it appears to me. Romney almost finished it off in 2012, I suppose ... I don't know, but I bet everyone here was stunned when Romney lost -- no wonder they're so angry. They assumed that the people they had made this place a turn-off for, didn't exist. But they did, and they did what they said they'd do right here -- screw voting for a leftist, I don't care what party he's in.

    They warned anyone paying attention going up to the election, and the same types are sounding warnings now, and it's just the primary. Trump will be in the race regardless because he'll run third party if he doesn't get the nomination.

    Man. And I thought it couldn't get any worse than Romney.

  • Mark Levin Lashes Out at Donald Trump: 'Might as Well Vote for Jeb Bush'

    01/27/2016 12:19:26 AM PST · 116 of 193
    Finny to frnewsjunkie
    Where does this Trump hate come from?

    Are you sure you're not mistaking hate for anger?

    I'll tell you where the anger comes from -- it's because Trump has a long history of being a moderate leftist and a whole lotta people who should know better are happier than hell about voting for this leftist self-promoting showoff celebrity. That would be bad enough any time, but now -- when we have Ted Cruz as an option, no less!!

    That ticks me off.

  • Donald Trump: I’ve always had good relationships with Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid

    01/26/2016 8:16:25 AM PST · 29 of 115
    Finny to Bulwyf; agrarianlady; Norm Lenhart; All
    I think folks in favour of Trump need to realize he’s not pro small government.

    I thought so myself but am now suspecting that folks in favor of Trump realize perfectly well that he is pro moderate-big government, and they are, too -- it's just that they want the big government done their way.

    Hey, folks, do you know what it means when someone says "I voted against" something?

    It means they don't want to be accountable for what they actually voted FOR.

  • No Trump!

    01/26/2016 7:41:57 AM PST · 52 of 140
    Finny to smoothsailing

    What if you admit that you stopped beating your wife?

  • Ted Cruz campaigns in Eastern Iowa

    01/26/2016 7:39:42 AM PST · 62 of 67
    Finny to caww; JoSixChip; All
    And really don't offer more than criticizing the posters. Could you at least offer some substance that we can exchange views or comments on rather than having it look like it's just a hit???

    Caww, JSC responds that way because it's all he's got. Kinda like when Trump attacks from the left as the conservatives who support him cringe and wonder why their favorite candidate does it but they support him anyway confident that he's just kidding them, that he's really got more -- but in fact, he'll just confirm what his own words and those of his most ardent supporters indicate: it's all he's got, and all he'll ever have.

    Folks, vote for him at your own risk. You WILL be accountable for the results.

  • Why This Former Trump Fan Doesn't Support Him Anymore

    01/26/2016 7:27:11 AM PST · 233 of 280
    Finny to Colonel_Flagg; Kaslin
    If Trump is nominated, his supporters will get exactly the candidate they deserve.

    Kaslin -- if Trump loses, those folks here (a minority though they post frequently and aggressively enough, including in brief daily caucuses here, to appear otherwise) will REFUSE to be accountable for insisting on a candidate that so many here WARNED them would be rejected.

  • No Trump!

    01/26/2016 7:19:34 AM PST · 10 of 140
    Finny to Old Retired Army Guy
    What if Trump loses Iowa?

    What if Trump loses the General just like Romney did?

    Who will have been the proud "loser" then, too proud to admit that their favorite candidate was just a little too stinky for too many Republicans and conservatives who nowadays insist on being accountable for what they vote for, instead of pretending to vote "against"?

    What if Trump loses for ALL conservatives because the Republican party got mad instead of smart?

  • Trump: Establishment rallying behind me to stop 'nasty' Cruz

    01/26/2016 2:07:55 AM PST · 77 of 85
    Finny to HoustonSam

    WELL SAID.

  • Trump: Establishment rallying behind me to stop 'nasty' Cruz

    01/26/2016 2:05:25 AM PST · 76 of 85
    Finny to SPRINK
    I honestly think Trump is The Terminator part deaux...

    {^) Good comparison!

  • The Republican establishment hates Ted Cruz - but it may have to settle for him

    01/26/2016 1:56:27 AM PST · 22 of 55
    Finny to elhombrelibre

    Well said. Bravo.

  • Ted Cruz: ‘We can shock the political world’

    01/26/2016 1:45:51 AM PST · 199 of 204
    Finny to caww

    :^)

  • Cruz-Hating Republicans Need a Reality Check

    01/26/2016 1:41:38 AM PST · 57 of 86
    Finny to stocksthatgoup

    Then you ain’t readin’ very closely.

  • Consistent Conservatives - - A gathering place for believers in true conservative principles

    01/25/2016 6:44:50 PM PST · 667 of 750
    Finny to Finny

    OUch! Bad number!

  • Consistent Conservatives - - A gathering place for believers in true conservative principles

    01/25/2016 6:44:32 PM PST · 666 of 750
    Finny to Grampa Dave; caww
    Grampa, okay, your other anger is ... one thing, but to accuse caww, one of the least "petty" conversationalists here, as being petty?

    Look, some conservatives come here to rule the roost. Most conservatives come here to read freely expressed intelligent -- or as it might be, exceedingly stupid -- conservative opinions. Whichever, if you're a conservative -- any kind, as for me I'm a limited government Christian Constitutional conservative -- and have that opinion, you're free to express it.

    That is why most people come here, lurk here, read here, write here, to express conservative opinion freely, and to peruse conservative opinion expressed freely.

    When it ceases here, when the only conservative opinion you're allowed to express favors one candidate, then this place will cease to be attractive to most folks.

    It's rough and tumble here -- caww is most emphatically one of the gentlest, mild-language souls here. He is pursuing truth. IF he's unable to find any unauthorized biographies of Trump that show any kind of depth one might expect in a book on such an pop celebrity (sorry, no better word for it), doesn't that raise an eyebrow?

    Oh well.

  • Trump: Establishment rallying behind me to stop 'nasty' Cruz

    01/25/2016 1:09:25 PM PST · 42 of 85
    Finny to jennychase; elhombrelibre
    Objective is to win election.

    And the objective when Ralphie's dad entered the contest "Great figures in American literature," in which he was victorious because he came up with the correct name of the Lone Ranger's nephew's horse, was to win a major award.

    Who cares that the major award was the world's ugliest lamp?

    Who cares that conservatives end up "winning" with a guy who has spent a lifetime defying virtually every conservative political principle?

    After all, winning is the only thing that counts, even if you win garbage!! You still WON!!! Yippeeeeeee!

  • [July 31, 2014] Homeowner who fought off Trump is moving on

    01/25/2016 9:07:35 AM PST · 222 of 237
    Finny to The Iceman Cometh; Jim Robinson
    You don't attack Trump -- you attack FReepers who disagree with you. You insult them, you call them names, you deride them and sneer at them, you deride and sneer at Cruz as well -- the little message on your home page suits you perfectly:

    "I like bright shiny objects."
    -- The Iceman Cometh

    That's about the limit of your contributions here. I thought this site was supposed to observe courtesies such as no personal attack, stick to the issues.

    I will go back to my usual habit of just ignoring your posts, and of wondering why some posters are allowed to personally insult people over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over .... while others are reprimanded merely for civilly expressing a political opinion/decision.

    I would love to donate ... am waiting, however, for some reassurance that neither I nor any other conservative will be zotted solely for civilly expressing a political opinion, even if it is an opinion I abhor. Zotting for personal insults and profanity, yes -- but for an opinion, the whole point of being here is to express opinions freely and to READ freely expressed opinions of fellow conservatives. When conservatives can't express their political opinions freely on FR ... FR ceases to be of value to conservatives. Just sayin'.

  • [July 31, 2014] Homeowner who fought off Trump is moving on

    01/25/2016 8:52:49 AM PST · 220 of 237
    Finny to The Iceman Cometh; Jim Robinson
    Jim, go in forum and look at Iceman's posts for the last week or two.

    Why is he still here?

  • Thelma and Louise Endorse Trump

    01/25/2016 8:32:41 AM PST · 61 of 97
    Finny to Lakeshark; All
    The media is playing Trump and conservatives, dude.

    Trump is himself a CREATION of the media.

    IF not for the media combined with Trump's skill in showmanship and entertaining, Trump would be virtually unknown.

    "OH but but but but he's famous for being so brilliant in business!! That's why he's famous!"

    I guess America's roughly 32 dozen OTHER billionaire businessmen, including real estate moguls born to about the same kind of wealth as Trump but now worth a LOT more than Trump (so obviously a LOT smarter at business than Trump) aren't famous because ... ??????

    The media is playing YOU, Lake, and you don't even know it. What a joke.

  • Thelma and Louise Endorse Trump

    01/25/2016 8:23:42 AM PST · 55 of 97
    Finny to Carthego delenda est; Grampa Dave

    That’s the way — attack the messenger when the message hurts!

  • Thelma and Louise Endorse Trump

    01/25/2016 8:21:56 AM PST · 53 of 97
    Finny to don-o; sphinx

    AGREED. It was an EXCELLENT post.

  • Thelma and Louise Endorse Trump

    01/25/2016 8:17:07 AM PST · 51 of 97
    Finny to rootin tootin
    What a great description -- "Thelma and Louise"!!

    {^)

    That's about it.

  • Why supporting Donald Trump is not a betrayal of "conservatism."

    01/25/2016 8:13:16 AM PST · 54 of 97
    Finny to AndyJackson; All
    What's next? An article on "Why choosing to have an abortion is not murder"?

    "Why drinking salt water while adrift at sea in a drought is not suicide"?

    It all depends -- on how you define murder, suicide, and conservatism.

    Some of us have already tried this approach, of telling ourselves why voting for a liberal wasn't voting for a liberal, and we've finally figured out that all it does is to continue to put leftists in office, as surprising and illogical as that outcome is! *rolls eyes*

    Keep kidding yourselves that you aren't accountable for what you vote for. That kind of thinking on the part of conservatives and Republicans for the past 40 years is how we got to this point -- why change tack now, it's working so well????

  • Consistent Conservatives - - A gathering place for believers in true conservative principles

    01/25/2016 1:20:54 AM PST · 355 of 750
    Finny to ri4dc
    That noise had become nearly impossible to cut through. I suspect that situation will dramatically improve. Bravo.

    Except you will only hear a limited discussion and "civil discourse on the pressing matters of the day." The perception you come away with will be biased and slanted because many people here have been bullied and hounded and zotted for simply, civilly stating a political opinion that veers outside of a small but aggressive-attack groupthink.

    Bravo?? Really? To me, it just makes FR that much less reflective of my fellow American conservatives and that much more reflective of an angry minority that insists it's a majority. I expect that by Nov 2012 the only folks here were Romney supporters, and when Romney lost, it came as a shock even though hundreds of your fellow FReepers here tried to clue you in and when they were treated with hostility, they left, leaving a balance who presented a one-side and distorted picture of where actual conservatives stood. Where the real balance stood on election day, unlike at FR because they'd been shooed away, was "Screw Romney and the donkey he rode in on -- I'm not wasting my vote on electing something I despise."

    So all of FR's attempts to force the issue, failed. People's opinions remained the same -- they just stopped expressing them here.

    It's only January, and it's beginning to happen again. And you're saying "Bravo."

    Keep kidding yourself, right into slavery.

  • [July 31, 2014] Homeowner who fought off Trump is moving on

    01/25/2016 12:41:53 AM PST · 201 of 237
    Finny to RegulatorCountry
    I knew well (a lifelong family friend) an old rancher whose family had ranched some property for five generations in a pretty part of California, near the coast. In the 1980s, rich man from the city offered him a cool $1 million for about a 1.5-acre pasture, a pretty little spot but nothing spectacular, though zoning (it was near a very small town) would have allowed conversion from ag to town use. My friend, a very middle-class pick-up-truck and horse trailer unpretentious kinda guy, politely declined the offer. When he told the story to us, he sort of chuckled describing the guy's disbelief.

    When I related this to an east coast city guy I knew who understood ZIP about squat except that country people are "backwards," he smiled wisely and said:

    "Not enough money."

    Like I said, he didn't understand zip about squat. The pasture, ordinary as it was, was a favorite of my friend's old ma, in her 90s at the time. There's no way on God's green earth he'd have sold it while she lived and not even after she died, not for $10 million. The pasture is still there.

    HIS PRIORITIES WERE RIGHT with regard to the importance of money.

  • [July 31, 2014] Homeowner who fought off Trump is moving on

    01/25/2016 12:26:09 AM PST · 199 of 237
    Finny to The Iceman Cometh; Admin Moderator
    Just like a Trump supporter. Change the subject to berating the poster with whom you disagree by posting a nasty derisive PERSONAL attack on that poster so you can divert attention from the issue at hand -- Donald TRUMP tried to use eminent domain to get an old lady's house she didn't want to sell, and probably LIES today about how much he offered her for it -- $5 million? From a guy who claims worth $10 billion while the leading chronicle of America's businessmen, Forbes, says he's worth at most $4.1 billion.

    But Iceman won't ever address that -- he'll just post personal insults against me, or anyone else who disagrees with his political opinion.

    What the hell is Iceman still doing here? He's got NUTHIN' but nastiness.

  • Consistent Conservatives - - A gathering place for believers in true conservative principles

    01/24/2016 11:33:23 PM PST · 323 of 750
    Finny to refreshed
    It is almost as if someone is intentionally dividing Free Republic.

    Indeed it does. A whole lot of someones, who want this to be a place where conservatives can discuss and express their political opinions freely, but ONLY if those opinions are agreeable to those someones. Conservatives here who have opinions they don't like, cannot express them freely.

    That is intentionally divisive.

  • As President: I WILL HAVE YOUR BACK

    01/24/2016 11:28:40 PM PST · 161 of 184
    Finny to terycarl
    If the opinions of the posters had to comply with Jim's opinions, it would turn into a private conversation with the boss.

    Bump.

  • Ted Cruz's Plan To "Bring Jobs Back From China" Is Better Than Trump's

    01/24/2016 11:19:38 PM PST · 77 of 80
    Finny to caww
    That's why the caucus vote is worthless as far as accurately gaging the mood of all but a tiny number of FReepers, in context.

    Thanks, caww.

  • Ted Cruz's Plan To "Bring Jobs Back From China" Is Better Than Trump's

    01/24/2016 2:38:47 PM PST · 73 of 80
    Finny to CatherineofAragon; Windflier
    "Well Finny, there is a nightly FR Caucus thread running now, and since it began five days ago, Trump's been in the lead, with Cruz a close second."

    There's a reason for that ...

    Yep, there sure is, and it DISTORTS the real picture drastically. That is why I keep the tally I do. A distorted picture can only deceive, including those who want to be deceived. I want a true picture and the only way to get it is to get it myself. In doing it, I realized just how far OFF the "daily caucuses" really are.

  • JRandomFreeper (Johnny) died at 4:33 pm, January 22, 2016.

    01/24/2016 1:19:44 PM PST · 481 of 548
    Finny to Marcella; Jim Robinson
    {^(

    Just now seeing this.

    I am weeping. Thank you God for sharing Johnny with us for so long through this great place that Jim has created -- JRF was one of the FReepers I can count on one hand who, over the past almost 14 years I've been here, had a profound influence on straightening me out in wrong thinking, making it right.

    Dear God, keep him and hold him and give his family comfort, and THANK YOU so much for letting me share him on this place You helped Jim create, even if only for a little while.

  • Ted Cruz's Plan To "Bring Jobs Back From China" Is Better Than Trump's

    01/24/2016 1:03:43 PM PST · 69 of 80
    Finny to Norm Lenhart

    Ping to posts 62 - 68.

  • Ted Cruz's Plan To "Bring Jobs Back From China" Is Better Than Trump's

    01/24/2016 12:58:33 PM PST · 68 of 80
    Finny to don-o; Windflier
    Here's my methodology, and I first put it to use in 2010. I have one list of individuals who have either clearly stated or VERY consistently implied one opinion, and another list of the same for the opposite opinion. As I read the threads, when I come across a name that is new or that I think might not have been tallied, I add it to the respective list, and at the end of the day or three days or whatever, I alphabetize it and look for duplicates to remove names written twice, and then make a count. The lists grow longer with every passing week.

    MOST of the time, I add a name to a list when an opinion is CLEARLY stated; if it is implied, I will go in-forum and back-read posts until I can find a post confirming one position or the other; if I cannot confirm it to my satisfaction, the name stays OFF either list.

    WINDFLIER, because I am so aware of my own bias, I require LESS evidence to put someone on the Trump list than on the non-Trump list, so if anything, the Trump 1st numbers are the inflated ones.

    INTERESTINGLY, three FReepers who, in forum, come across consistently, day after day, as very much Trump First -- actually prefer Cruz, so those three names were on the Trump list for awhile (and would still be there if I hadn't decided to take them at their word that they are for Cruz first).

    Likewise, there have been a few instances where I had to take a name off the other list (not really pro Cruz as much as Trump 2nd, although the vast majority on that list name Cruz as their first pick) because while the tone and frequency of their posts implied preference for Cruz, in fact when asked they stated their first choice as Trump.

    That's my methodology and it is the ONLY way that I can satisfy my goal of knowing where most people ACTUALLY stand, as opposed to where fewer people who post more frequently and aggressively, stand.

    People can believe me or not as they choose. They have no way of knowing how truthful I am being, but I DO. It is why I post my tally results with confidence.

  • Ted Cruz's Plan To "Bring Jobs Back From China" Is Better Than Trump's

    01/24/2016 12:37:46 PM PST · 66 of 80
    Finny to don-o; Windflier
    Thank you, don-o.

    HARD NUMBERS tell the truth, Windy, not the few hundred FReepers who happen to catch that day's caucus (I have participated in at most three, more probably two, out of ... how many, Windy????), but the kind of FReepers who represent the more common conservative, folks who read more and blab only every once in awhile.

    THEY are the ones you RARELY see on the Daily Caucuses; the ones you do see are mostly hard-core FReepers whose opinions I have already tallied.

    I do NOT make this tally for the purpose of confirming my own opinion. I make this tally in order to discern as big and as true a picture as I can.

  • If Trump and Hillary Are Our Final Options, We Deserve Some Pain

    01/24/2016 12:22:12 PM PST · 213 of 224
    Finny to Bob Ireland
    they were Democrap socialists all along!

    Just like Trump promises to be.

  • If Trump and Hillary Are Our Final Options, We Deserve Some Pain

    01/24/2016 12:21:18 PM PST · 212 of 224
    Finny to CAluvdubya; Norm Lenhart; All
    I admit I have some nerve criticizing the Republican party for being so leftist, for left-moderates like Boehner, McConnell, McCain, Schwarzenegger -- because I FAITHFULLY voted to elect them (when they were on my ballot).

    Calluvdubya, I WALKED your walk from 1975 until 2012 -- that's 37 years of applying the same strategy that you STILL apply, of voting for liberal Republicans in order to "stop" liberal Democrats.

    {^) And I had the gall to criticize the Republican party for being such a leftist mess! What the hell -- I VOTED FOR IT!!!

    I love Mark Levin but turn him off the instant I hear him say, "I'll vote for Trump in the general." It means he is willing to continue voting to turn the Republican party left, and then Levin will be the FIRST to complain about getting what he voted for!!!!! It boggles the mind.

    In 2012, I decided to STOP voting for what I want to lose and to START voting for what I want to win.

    Your "brilliant plan" would have us four years into a Republican administration whose leader would advance leftism on all fronts. And I bet you would be one of the folks complaining the loudest about getting what you voted for. Just like I used to do.

    Wake the hell up.

  • Ted Cruz's Plan To "Bring Jobs Back From China" Is Better Than Trump's

    01/24/2016 12:02:21 PM PST · 63 of 80
    Finny to Windflier
    The FR Caucus ONLY reflects a limited number of individuals who happen to respond in a limited window of time.

    My count is cumulative - not hundreds, but more than 1,000 individuals -- over time and represents a lot more individuals than one of those caucuses. In truth, any daily caucus on FR is liable to misrepresent the prevailing long-term opinion on FR. Regarding Trump, THAT prevailing opinion is that Trump is at best a second choice, if any choice at all; in the past week, I have come across several individuals who say, "Well, Trump WAS my second choice, but not any more; now Cruz is my ONLY choice."

  • Ted Cruz's Plan To "Bring Jobs Back From China" Is Better Than Trump's

    01/24/2016 9:40:08 AM PST · 58 of 80
    Finny to Jim Robinson; Windflier; b9; Norm Lenhart; Marcella; sitetest; Colonel_Flagg; C. Edmund Wright; ...
    Looks to me like it's going both ways.

    Really! It is pretty obvious to me that it is going a lot more powerfully ONE way than the other, Jim.

    Trump-first folks are THE MINORITY here, I know it for a fact and anyone who doesn't believe me, oh well. I did the work to determine the reality here (again). And the truth is that 573 FReepers over the past few months have said that Trump is their SECOND choice or no choice at all, compared to 477 FReepers who say or consistently indicate that Trump is their first choice.

    So Jim, how is it that a minority of voices here have so many convinced that they aren't the minority?

    How is it that a minority manages to dole out EQUAL "both ways" junk compared to the majority? Also, I am sorry Jim, but proportionately MORE Trump supporters are A LOT more ugly and aggressive than a much smaller proportionate number of Cruz supporters, who use terms I hate like "Trumpanzees," "Trumpbots," and other insulting names for people I love but with whom I disagree. So your "argument" that it's going both ways, leaks like a sieve, from my informed observations here.

    I am at this point. I will joyfully donate $100 to the FReepathon WHEN I am assured that neither I nor any other FReeper will be zotted for ANY opinion, and will ONLY be zotted for using profanities or for repeatedly resorting to personal attacks on individuals.

    I want to be assured that NO FReeper will be zotted for civilly (or even angrily, but as long as it's not a personal attack on another FReeper) expressing the conservative opinion that they refuse to vote for Trump if he's the nominee BECAUSE etc., etc.

    I will happily continue to donate if I am assured that NO FReeper will be zotted for challenging fellow conservatives' justifications for voting for leftists like Romney, no more than they should be zotted for challenging conservatives like me, who have finally woken up to the fact that WE have some nerve to complain about where the GOP is today because we VOTED FOR the candidates that made it that way.

    I really love FR and I really love you and all you've done, JR; you and your family have been in my prayers for years, and are still there.

    However, I love liberty and the Constitution more; in fact, my love for those two things are why I have been with FR for I think 12 or 13 years (I forget).

  • Against Trump [National Review's Manifesto]

    01/23/2016 7:25:19 PM PST · 202 of 202
    Finny to Jim Robinson
    Trump's famous for appealing to anger against an entrenched political class, and a heart-felt burning desire to "stick it to the GOPe", political correctness, the MSM, liberals and so forth.

    No matter how great if feels, you know that anger and vengeance are bad things to follow. It's what any good parent would teach a child. Rather follow someone whose appeal is optimism and workable solutions.

    Cruz appeals to my desire to see Constitutional limited government principles restored to America, the Republican party, and conservatism.

    I'll leave the guy who appeals to anger and vengeance behind.

  • Against Trump [National Review's Manifesto]

    01/23/2016 7:10:25 PM PST · 201 of 202
    Finny to Jim Robinson
    Jim, your choice of Trump would be one designed to frustrate those who would fight the good fight against a communist take-over. LOOK AT HIM, all of him, his past, too. LISTEN to him.

    It isn't that Cruz is just as good -- it's that Trump exhibits every evidence of being a life-long left-leaning moderate. He's self-absorbed, even ridiculous. A lot of people here sucked it up and voted for Romney last time, and went home sick at heart.

    Fewer are going to suck up this time to accepting that the Republican party is entitled to a conservative's vote (which is essentially the stand being taken) if Trump pans out the disaster that he's looking like, and the conversation on FR is reflecting it now. Romney Redux.