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  • Rosetta Discovery of Surprise Molecular Breakup Mechanism in Comet Coma Alters Perceptions

    06/06/2015 5:55:35 PM PDT · 17 of 17
    ForGod'sSake to Swordmaker
    Assumptions that are proving to be not true.

    Gotta wonder if at some point during the planning stage someone didn't ask the question, "What if our assumptions about the makeup of a comet are wrong?". These are presumably some of the best and brightest in the aerospace field and nobody challenged the conventional wisdom? Or, if someone did, were they ridiculed into silence? Just speculating...

    All of which is academic at this point and we will probably never know why they almost blew an opportunity of a lifetime.

  • Rosetta Discovery of Surprise Molecular Breakup Mechanism in Comet Coma Alters Perceptions

    06/05/2015 8:41:50 PM PDT · 13 of 17
    ForGod'sSake to BenLurkin

    Well, color me confused. I think I recall reading an article a few months back that stated water was being FORMED by some mechanism I don’t understand, in this same general area. This article seems to contradict that mechanism by stating the water is being discharged from the comet itself. Which seems odd since the best I recall, there has been very little water detected in/on the comet. Have I missed something?

  • MAVEN uncovers Two Mysteries in Martian Atmosphere

    03/23/2015 11:08:59 AM PDT · 11 of 12
    ForGod'sSake to Swordmaker

    Curious. This particular article didn’t point out what several other articles did; that is, the “aurora” is apparently only “visible” in the ultraviolet. Maybe it’s more like a UV rainbow???

  • Progressive Journalism and the History of Narratives in the News

    02/02/2015 8:14:16 PM PST · 29 of 31
    ForGod'sSake to abb
    Answer: Citizen journalism. We have the tools, all we need is the will.

    If there is an answer to be had, that might be part of it. Fact is, given the degraded condition of our culture, I'm not convinced any of us could move the needle enough to make much of a difference. I wonder if the Koch brothers for example, with their enormous resources could even turn the ship around. Or would they even want to???

  • Progressive Journalism and the History of Narratives in the News

    02/02/2015 10:01:56 AM PST · 27 of 31
    ForGod'sSake to ProgressingAmerica; bert; abb

    Seen this???

  • Progressive Journalism and the History of Narratives in the News

    01/31/2015 11:26:19 PM PST · 26 of 31
    ForGod'sSake to ProgressingAmerica

    Well done! In doing your research were you able to come to any conclusion about what happened to conservative media? As you know, they actually existed once upon a time. Why were they unable to compete?

  • Mega wave hit Oman's coast 4,500 years ago

    01/17/2015 8:22:43 PM PST · 74 of 74
    ForGod'sSake to Fred Nerks
    Remember the calendar revisions described by Velikovsky? Remember the Emperor whose name was pronounced Yahoo?

    I have a vague recollection of that. Seems that the world had turned upside down and their calendars didn't work any more???

    I don't hang around FR nearly as much as I used to. The place ain't what it used to be. Anybody that thinks this place isn't crawling with trolls, including sleeper trolls, needs to recalibrate their antenna. Anyhow, it gets tiresome after a while...

  • Jet! Rosetta’s Comet Is Feeling The Heat As Gas and Dust Erupts From Surface

    11/26/2014 5:11:54 PM PST · 19 of 29
    ForGod'sSake to Swordmaker

    Latest thread...

  • Jet! Rosetta’s Comet Is Feeling The Heat As Gas and Dust Erupts From Surface

    11/26/2014 5:09:39 PM PST · 18 of 29
    ForGod'sSake to Straight Vermonter

    That’s odd; it doesn’t LOOK like a snowball. :-)

  • Philae Lander Early Science Results: Ice, Organic Molecules and Half a Foot of Dust

    11/25/2014 10:05:17 PM PST · 59 of 59
    ForGod'sSake to Swordmaker

    I watched the comet video and was duly impressed. Very compelling presentation. Now I’m off to watch the Mars video before my eyelids start to slam shut. I have marvelled over the various plasma/electromagnetic stuff for some time but never seem to be able to follow through because other interests invariably intrude.

  • Philae Lander Early Science Results: Ice, Organic Molecules and Half a Foot of Dust

    11/24/2014 11:29:57 PM PST · 49 of 59
    ForGod'sSake to Swordmaker
    Thanks for the links. I'm already familiar with much of what the Thunderbolts people have done. I haven't seen the comet video so I'll take a look at that one tomorrow sometime.

    A side note on the dust/ice business. It's fairly apparent there is at least SOME ice on the surface of SOME comets so I was offering up an uneducated explanation for how it got there. As highly charged as comets appear to be, they will inevitably gather opposite charged particles as they tour the cosmos, no? And if, as the article stated, there is in fact dust/ice present in space, this COULD account for it being present on comets?

    Anyhow, it's late and this is truly interesting stuff but the comet video will have to wait til tomorrow.

  • Philae Lander Early Science Results: Ice, Organic Molecules and Half a Foot of Dust

    11/24/2014 8:27:18 PM PST · 46 of 59
    ForGod'sSake to Swordmaker
    The only way that would work would be to again accept an electric nature with a charge that would attract the water.

    To this layman that certainly seems possible. I don't know enough about the density of these dust/ice clouds to know if a charge could build up as a comet passes through them. Or if they would be opposite charges. It seems likely a comet would build up a charge as it moves through any medium. It also seems likely a greater and greater charge would develop as the medium becomes denser. Like when a comet approaches the sun. But that's just a back of the napkin guess, or WAG.

  • Philae Lander Early Science Results: Ice, Organic Molecules and Half a Foot of Dust

    11/24/2014 6:10:54 PM PST · 44 of 59
    ForGod'sSake to Swordmaker
    Thanks for your efforts. The fog is beginning to lift a little.

    Shifting gears slightly: I've read several comments that water in its various forms could not exist in deep space. This OLDER ARTICLE says yes, in frozen and vapor form. In its frozen form it has attached itself to dust particles which accounts for ~99% of the water. The remaining ~1% in vapor form. What if comets, because of the nature of their travels, gather up this dust/ice along the way? Maybe on each circuit even, renewing its supply???

  • Philae Lander Early Science Results: Ice, Organic Molecules and Half a Foot of Dust

    11/23/2014 8:28:22 PM PST · 41 of 59
    ForGod'sSake to Swordmaker
    Try this on for size. The water is FORMED by the high-energy plasma-discharge interacting with the solar wind, which is made up of stripped protons.

    Interestingly enough, that thought occurred to me but having ZERO background in science; in particular chemistry, I didn't even know where or how to begin a search to see if it was even possible. Gratifying to know that my thought processes still function properly -- more or less.

    I did some scouting around to see what I could find out generally about Tempel1. Ran across several articles stating water ice or water ice patches were discovered on the comet. Conflicting and contradictory information is everywhere apparently. I discovered one article in my wandering in particular that gave me severe indigestion. If you have time, see what you can make of this item from HERE:

    How hot is it on Tempel 1? Researchers made a temperature map of the sunlit side and found the hottest point nearly directly under the sun. It's 329 degrees Kelvin under the sun and 260 in the shade.

    The coldest temperature is important because the temperature at which ices such as water, carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide turn directly into gas is below 200 degrees Kelvin.
    The problem I have is reconciling the fact that from this same article it states 72°F is roughly 295°K. Nowhere near hot enough to cook off anything. Confusing for the layman.
  • Philae Lander Early Science Results: Ice, Organic Molecules and Half a Foot of Dust

    11/23/2014 11:18:16 AM PST · 36 of 59
    ForGod'sSake to Swordmaker
    After making what I thought was a fairly astute observation re a comet's characteristics and not getting a reply it occurs to me my first sentence in my previous reply MAY have had something to do with it...maybe not. You may have thought my comment "What a mess!!!" referred to your post. It did NOT. It was my opinion on the state of affairs generally about the inconsistent application of the scientific method concerning this issue...and others. I apologize for any confusion my lack of clarity may have caused. That critique from a non scientist BTW. I'm an old retired salesman with an interest in the, well, natural world, FWIW.

    Moving along. I have spent a good deal of time trying to find additional information regarding alternative research on comets. As you're no doubt aware, there's not much out there. Maybe the same people are too busy banging the drum for algore warming or other "conventional wisdom", I dunno.

    Although their instruments detected no water ice on(or in?) the comet; what to make of the water vapor their instruments detect escaping from the comet. Anywhere from a teacup full to over a gallon per SECOND.Might it be trapped in a highly vesicular chunk of rock. The rock itself appears to have been formed under "extreme" conditions.

  • Philae Lander Early Science Results: Ice, Organic Molecules and Half a Foot of Dust

    11/19/2014 9:12:48 PM PST · 30 of 59
    ForGod'sSake to Swordmaker
    What a mess!!! In any case, and coincidentally, I just finished watching a PBS show on the Rosetta's trip to the comet. Some conflicting information on the show but I suppose that's to be expected. In one of their demos they combined a mixture of "snow" and sand(I believe). Placed in a chamber, reduced temp to -195(F?), pulled a vacuum and nothing happened until they applied what they called the sun; something resembling a heat lamp. Things began to cook off in fairly dramatic fashion.

    In a later portion of the show they determined the comet was NOT made of ice and furthermore, the density of the comet was much lighter than water; that is to say, this comet, or rock(?), would ride high in the water. Interesting that. It also brought to mind another type of rock that coincidentally fits what we actually observe. This thing actually LOOKS like lava rock and more specifically pumice. What are the odds...

  • Listen to Rosetta's comet 'sing': Scientists baffled by mysterious sounds recorded near 67P ...

    11/12/2014 12:12:36 AM PST · 53 of 70
    ForGod'sSake to Swordmaker
    So the dirty snowball notion is another one of those WAG's by the "experts" that, while looking more and more improbable, just won't go away. Seems to happen a lot...

    I haven't been to the Thunderbolts site in a while but I'd bet a couple of bucks their considerable brain power will yield more accurate predictions than the space "experts".

  • Listen to Rosetta's comet 'sing': Scientists baffled by mysterious sounds recorded near 67P ...

    11/11/2014 10:30:20 PM PST · 51 of 70
    ForGod'sSake to Swordmaker
    Thanks for the ping. A question for anybody that might know. From most accounts a comet is described as a dirty snowball; with no atmosphere or magnetosphere to speak of. So why doesn't the solar wind blow a comet to smithereens in short order and long before they ever approach the inner solar system?
  • Mega wave hit Oman's coast 4,500 years ago

    11/10/2014 8:35:15 AM PST · 68 of 74
    ForGod'sSake to BroJoeK
    Sadly, your naïveté is stunning. I have the time but no longer have the inclination to educate those that appear to be willfully ignorant of the co-opting of selected areas of the scientific establishment by political hacks. Sorry, but you're on your own.
  • Mega wave hit Oman's coast 4,500 years ago

    11/09/2014 7:27:55 PM PST · 65 of 74
    ForGod'sSake to blam
    Not very loving, eh?

    A personal shortcoming I'm afraid that I have to frequently atone for, but it just chaps my cheeks when someone I've never seen on these threads helicopters in and takes a drive-by cheap shot.

    I think you've driven more away from your cause than attracted with your ranting on this thread.

    The cause is probably not what you think. "The flood" is just one example of catastrophism I choose to champion. The source of the account of the flood could have been any one of numerous accounts from around the world. The Bible is but one of them. To deny that "a" flood(or floods) happened is tantamount to saying these ancient people were liars and frauds, no? Or in the opinion of the scientific establishment, these people just weren't as smart as we are and couldn't tell the difference between a flood and a crawfish hole.

    My advice to you, stay off the GGG threads if you can't conduct yourself in a mannered fashion.

    Sound advice for the most part but you've maybe noticed I don't spend nearly as much time replying on these threads as I once did. I still read most of them and pretty much hold my peace until something truly strikes a nerve. The frustration level with the scientific establishment and the parroting of their talking points gives me heartburn.

  • Mega wave hit Oman's coast 4,500 years ago

    11/09/2014 7:12:42 AM PST · 61 of 74
    ForGod'sSake to BroJoeK
    If you're suggesting the scientific establishment is as pure as the driven snow you're either a fool or a liar. After puking such drivel on this thread, it's my considered opinion the rest of your screed is suspect and not to be taken seriously.

    Get back to me when you can offer a plausible explanation for hundreds of accounts; not myths or legends the scientific establishment would have you believe, but ACCOUNTS of deluges from around the world. While you're at it and in your spare time, explain the carcasses of millions of Mega fauna along with other detritus found in the arctic, as well as numerous other sites and regions around the world.

    If you're new to this subject, take your time and avoid most of the "prestigious" journals and academic effluent. They've all gotten severe cases of whiplash turning away from the obvious. Shame on them.

    Anyhow, this being Sunday, I have places to go, like church for example so I'll leave you to your studies until later. Enjoy.

  • Mega wave hit Oman's coast 4,500 years ago

    11/08/2014 10:38:49 PM PST · 59 of 74
    ForGod'sSake to SunkenCiv

    The only hostility I harbor is towards the propagandist in you. A practicing atheist I presume, intent on surreptitiously spreading your “religion”. Just another lost soul it seems that has become a minor disappointment to me. But take heart, God loves you.

  • Mega wave hit Oman's coast 4,500 years ago

    11/08/2014 9:05:04 PM PST · 57 of 74
    ForGod'sSake to samtheman

    Oh boy; another commodian.

  • Mega wave hit Oman's coast 4,500 years ago

    11/08/2014 8:36:56 PM PST · 55 of 74
    ForGod'sSake to SunkenCiv
    For starters, I have no idea when "The Flood" occurred and IMHO, given the scientific establishment's practice of ignoring even the most obvious evidence, it's not likely a "consensus" will be reached any time soon. The remainder of the discussion devolves into pi$$ing contests that produce a lot of noise but little else.

    You can cite all the "evidence" you like supporting your opinion and ignore the rest but all that does is create suspicion regarding your motives. So, just what evidence did Velikovsky, and many others for that matter, find supporting flood/massive waves across the landscape? Surely you remember...

  • Mega wave hit Oman's coast 4,500 years ago

    11/07/2014 8:31:25 PM PST · 48 of 74
    ForGod'sSake to SunkenCiv
    The oft-cited date of the OT Great Flood is 2200 BC. There remains zero evidence that it ever took place.

    Are you stark raving mad??? Are you suggesting there is ZERO evidence of massive flooding or huge waves traversing large portions of continents to be found anywhere on the planet??? I know you're a student of Velikovsky and as such you should at least be familiar with his presentation of such evidence. OR, do you choose to cite his work only when it suits your, what, agenda??? I don't get it Civ. I had always thought you to be a fairly bright guy but of late, I've begun to wonder...

  • Big Bang Fizzles under Lithium Test

    09/22/2014 9:47:29 PM PDT · 46 of 63
    ForGod'sSake to SunkenCiv
    The ICR isn’t about science or creation, it’s about ideology, and it isn’t a source of actual information or facts.

    Spoken like a true believer; a person of no small faith in the "tornado through the junk yard creating a 747" ignorance. Your faith is based on at best, junk science. But you probably know that. Your smug reply offered NOTHING by way of rebuttal, just tiresome ad hominem.

    The author served up a list of several problems with the big bang. Why don't you take them one by one and with your vast knowledge in this field tear them apart for the unwashed???

  • Americas Sovereignty Meltdown (VANITY)

    09/09/2014 11:43:05 PM PDT · 7 of 33
    ForGod'sSake to SunkenCiv; Windflier

    Civ, I know you’ve got a general purpose ping list you might consider using if you consider this credible. Windflier, maybe for the Texas bunch???

  • Americas Sovereignty Meltdown (VANITY)

    09/09/2014 11:37:49 PM PDT · 6 of 33
    ForGod'sSake to TigerClaws
    Incredible! If the videos are yours, what did the letter from the SSA say? All I could make out was where it was from and "IMPORTANT INFORMATION". Based on the second video it looks like most of the people waiting outside we're holding the same letter and a newly minted passport. At the very least they've been well coached in what to do.

    The lawlessness that has expanded under this illegitimate administration boggles the mind. I also wonder what it's going to take for Americans to put a stop to the madness. Since it hasn't happened already, I wonder if it ever will...

  • The Corruption of Peer Review Is Harming Scientific Credibility

    07/27/2014 10:18:09 PM PDT · 17 of 18
    ForGod'sSake to SeekAndFind

    I’m like, almost totally shocked. I suspect somewhere in the process is a single enabling point but it’s just a hunch. Gotta wonder just who the gatekeepers are for dog and pony science. </conspiracy>

  • Mysterious Earthen Rings Predate Amazon Rainforest

    07/13/2014 9:54:09 PM PDT · 44 of 45
    ForGod'sSake to Gary Gilligan
    Thank you for your response and good luck on your writing efforts.

    Turns out, sand formation may be more complex than one might originally suspect. And, after doing some more looking around I discovered there are actually several different types of sand that make up the Sahara itself. It's not uniform at all. Never thought about it but I suppose it makes sense.

    I gather you're also a follower of many of Velikovsky's ideas and his interpretations of Biblical an other ancient scripts. Have you looked at the 9th plague, the plague of darkness in Egypt? Utter darkness, a darkness that could be felt??? A cloud of sand cold be felt. Not to mention it had to have been exceedingly thick. Lasted either three days or nine days depending on the source.

  • Mysterious Earthen Rings Predate Amazon Rainforest

    07/12/2014 7:34:26 PM PDT · 36 of 45
    ForGod'sSake to Gary Gilligan
    Interesting links. Thanks for adding them to the thread.

    I notice you're a writer but of course I don't know what your background is. Something occurred to me and as a matter of curiosity I wonder if you've ever looked into the possibility of massive sand blows contributing to the creation of the Sahara? I read a foreign published work within the last day or two that made some compelling arguments re volcanism, massive volcanism, being the culprit responsible for the "green glass" and the abrupt changes to North Africa. Could it be part of the answer?

  • Mysterious Earthen Rings Predate Amazon Rainforest

    07/11/2014 8:22:00 PM PDT · 31 of 45
    ForGod'sSake to Free Vulcan

    There is no shortage of theories and they all have their adherents and furnish evidence, such as it is, to support them. I seem to recall the Bible describes an event, obviously during historical times, when the earth wobbled like a drunk! Eyewitness accounts??? Generally considered fairly reliable evidence. You make the call...

  • Mysterious Earthen Rings Predate Amazon Rainforest

    07/11/2014 9:06:52 AM PDT · 25 of 45
    ForGod'sSake to Free Vulcan
    I was watching on PBS within the last month, the reason the rainforests in the Amazon exist is due to the dust kicked up in the Sahara desert in Africa that travels around the world, creates rainclouds and drops.

    I watched that same documentary with interest but became frustrated at the end because they never tried to make a connection re what the "rain forest" would have looked like when the Sahara was largely covered with shallow seas. Scouring the web revealed several efforts to make a connection that never made it into "prestigious journals". Not sure what to make of that. Maybe if they blamed humans for draining the Sahara they could have gotten published???

    In any case, and just like this guy found, most conclusions were the South American rain forest was savanna type landscape when the Sahara was wetter. It becomes even more interesting when investigating a cause for this "climate change". This of course happened well past the end of the last glaciation??? Whatever. The theories run the gamut from pole shifts to alien terra formers. From most accounts the change was relatively swift, in geologic time.

    The scientific community™ is nothing if not frustrating. They apparently go as far as the money and no farther. Maybe journal publishers can share the blame since they are the ones who select studies and research that make the cut? In a publish or perish environment whaddaya gonna do, but I digress...

  • Rep. Steve Stockman, Texas: Common Core – A Big Government Assault on K-12 Education

    07/02/2014 10:07:39 PM PDT · 4 of 5
    ForGod'sSake to tbw2
    Common Core was rejected by the state of Texas as a whole, but over half of the public school districts adopted it anyway.

    Over half??? Doubtful, but those that did will be sucking wind before long. Not only is it ILLEGAL to implement common core in Texas schools; those that persist will lose their state funding to boot. Brief article:

    AG Abbott: Texas schools cannot use Common Core standards

    Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott confirmed Tuesday in a ruling that the state’s public school districts cannot adopt controversial national curriculum standards called common core.

    State lawmakers passed a law prohibiting the use of the standards, but state Sen. Dan Patrick, the bill’s sponsor and chairman of the Senate Education Committee, asked Abbott for a ruling to eliminate any confusion over the meaning. Some had expressed concerns that the state’s own curriculum requirements (known as the Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills) overlap with the common core standards — adopted by nearly all states besides Texas, though some have since dropped their support or delayed the rollout.

    “That concern is baseless,” wrote Abbott, the Republican gubernatorial nominee. “To use a simple example, if TEKS requires teaching that 2+2=4, the bill plainly does not prevent this instruction simply because Common Core also teaches that 2+2=4. The Legislature was aware of the frequent overlap between the TEKS and the Common Core Standards, as evidenced by the bill author’s explanation that it was not his intent ‘to prevent the use of materials where the two standards may overlap.’”

    The common core standards, which had bipartisan support nationwide, have since spawned a revolt from some Republicans over concerns that the federal government has too much sway over local education policy.


    AG ruling on common core

  • Why did evolution stall during the 'boring billion'?

    06/23/2014 10:32:20 PM PDT · 84 of 84
    ForGod'sSake to Ultra Sonic 007
    I just noticed that varmintman’s account has been banned. What happened?

    SHEESH, I haven't a clue. Seems odd though. AFAIK, the first exchange I ever had with him was on this thread so I can't offer any personal insights on his proclivities. His posting history didn't reveal anything particularly heinous...unless some doozies were removed. Right, wrong or otherwise, I certainly liked much of what he posted on this thread.

    Maybe I'll make some inquiries...

  • The Making of Public Opinion, by William Kittle

    06/16/2014 8:33:16 PM PDT · 12 of 13
    ForGod'sSake to conservatism_IS_compassion

    Quite a screed. I suppose interested parties back then had the time and/or the inclination to tackle a piece such as this. I made it most of the way through before realizing much of the verbiage was bibliographic in nature. Still, necessary in pieces like this to establish creds. Would that more of the electorate was aware of the propensity of “the media” to promote various narratives favorable to them and their pet causes.

  • Why did evolution stall during the 'boring billion'?

    06/13/2014 10:34:31 AM PDT · 68 of 84
    ForGod'sSake to OldNavyVet
    Why is is that men have nipples?

    You're asking me to explain part of God's plan and offer you some insights into His designs? Tall order and probably a fool's errand to boot. If you knew Him you would realize what a ridiculous question it is but since you apparently don't know Him, it appears reasonable to you. In any case, I'm not nearly as smart as He is so I don't have an answer for you right off the top of my head. Tell you what I'll do though. Next time I have a few minutes to spare I'll check in with Him to see if He would be willing to enlighten us. Or, you could ask Him yourself...

  • Why did evolution stall during the 'boring billion'?

    06/13/2014 9:15:04 AM PDT · 64 of 84
    ForGod'sSake to varmintman
    Glad I checked back on this thread. Tip of my cowboy hat to you varmitman! Your posts on this thread are like a fresh breeze off the ocean. IMO you have presented the most clear, concise, cohesive and damning rebuttal to evoreligionists I've run across on FR. You have probably spent a lot of time assimilating, cataloging and organizing the material in your efforts to present your arguments. I for one, am grateful.

    I took a look at your FR home page and noticed it was blank. If you wouldn't mind a suggestion; do us all a favor and use your home page to create a resource of your material for the rest of us.

    Thanks again.

  • Why did evolution stall during the 'boring billion'?

    06/12/2014 9:15:54 PM PDT · 50 of 84
    ForGod'sSake to varmintman
  • Silenced watchdog highlights power behind rampant science fraud

    06/01/2014 8:21:42 AM PDT · 14 of 16
    ForGod'sSake to SunkenCiv; Tolerance Sucks Rocks


  • Comet theory false; doesn't explain Ice Age cold snap, Clovis changes, animal extinction

    05/28/2014 5:31:23 PM PDT · 45 of 45
    ForGod'sSake to SunkenCiv
    I’ve been away a lot, real life stuff.

    Been off more than on the last few months myself but more a matter of frustration with FR than any real life stuff.

  • Comet theory false; doesn't explain Ice Age cold snap, Clovis changes, animal extinction

    05/28/2014 5:27:11 PM PDT · 44 of 45
    ForGod'sSake to Sherman Logan
    No offense intended...

    No offense taken of course. My expressed sensitivity was more tongue in cheek than anything else, but you probably know that.

    ...just didn’t see how either of us would profit by continued conversation on the subject.

    Interesting. You can not or will not be swayed by arguments presenting evidence contrary to your, er, faith??? And you have to admit your opinions on the subject are what you choose to believe as much as anything else. Scientific POV? I dunno. Regardless, I like a good debate and I CAN be swayed with compelling evidence.

    Up until about fifteen years ago or so I was what I would classify an agnostic. I probably leaned towards catastrophism but didn't know what to believe and honestly didn't care much one way or the other. Furthermore I couldn't see that it really made much difference. Until I discovered malfeasance by many in the scientific community™.

    I can't even begin to guess how many hundreds of hours I have spent digging, searching, studying and scratching my head in an effort to find out what was and is going on. Much of that done here on FR with the able assistance of other Freepers or spun off from FR. I even discovered that Darwin himself didn't know what to make of the obvious devastation that apparently occurred during historical times(pick an arbitrary date of, say, less than 20K years ago). It was everywhere he looked, particularly in the Americas. It seems his work was co-opted by his benefactor and mentor Charles Lyell who turned it into the uniformitarian/gradual evolutionary nonsense we see til this day. To what purpose I haven't a clue, but there it is.

    Have a good day.

  • Comet theory false; doesn't explain Ice Age cold snap, Clovis changes, animal extinction

    05/27/2014 9:56:54 PM PDT · 41 of 45
    ForGod'sSake to Sherman Logan; SunkenCiv
    Did you go away mad or did you just go away??? You'll pardon an observation but being the sensitive type I was utterly and grossly offended(more or less) at your complete silence when I offered you links to some alternative views on the destruction at the end Pleistocene; more particularly the demise of the megafauna.

    I haven't looked at your posting history so I don't know if you're a hit and run type or not. It is a curiosity to me that some people, when offered compelling data opposing their views, fall off a cliff, or something. You are still around, aren't you???

    No matter. SunkenCiv probably spent a good deal of time compiling a somewhat dated(now) but exhaustive FR list on the subject that you might find interesting; or not, HERE.

    Let me know if you would like to see additional stuff or if you would just as soon discontinue the conversation.

  • Comet theory false; doesn't explain Ice Age cold snap, Clovis changes, animal extinction

    05/23/2014 2:32:37 PM PDT · 39 of 45
    ForGod'sSake to gleeaikin
    I could imagine giant tsunamis causing such bone piles.

    Truth be told, it's the only thing that comes to mind that COULD explain it. Depositing the bones of millions of disarticulated animals along with splintered trees, volcanic ash, large rocks and sand over hundreds, maybe thousands of miles is tough to overlook but the scientific community™ has done a yeoman's job of it so far. Gives me a case of the RED A$$!

    Parenthetically, and re your other post: From many accounts the Smithsonian has been complicit it hiding and/or losing evidence that doesn't fit the uniformitarian or other "consensus" narrative. Such and august institution guilty of fudging the facts??? Say it ain't so...

  • Comet theory false; doesn't explain Ice Age cold snap, Clovis changes, animal extinction

    05/23/2014 2:11:06 PM PDT · 38 of 45
    ForGod'sSake to gleeaikin
    There are still significant killings and species depletion occurring...

    No doubt some of it at the hands of Man but when accompanied by evidence of catastrophe??? ONLY if one ignores the catastrophe I suppose. Anyhow, here in East Texas we have something similar occurring, after a fashion. Fire ants! Yep, fire ants have been credited with creating havoc amongst critters that nest on, near or under the ground. Larger young critters are even at risk if mama drops her newborn on or near a fire ant hill. Ground nesting birds like quail are nothing but a memory. I miss the night calls of Bobwhites and Whippoorwills.

  • Comet theory false; doesn't explain Ice Age cold snap, Clovis changes, animal extinction

    05/22/2014 4:14:46 PM PDT · 34 of 45
    ForGod'sSake to gleeaikin; Sherman Logan

    gleeakin, I think what we’ve got here is a “hunted to extinction” crusader. I sent him/her to some links that are pretty compelling re a catastrophic end to the Pleistocene and I’m guessing he/she got a painful whiplash turning away from it. Not only that but evidence of simultaneous megafauna extinctions in other parts of the world besides the Americas which he/she also ignored. I’m also wondering if he/she has read there has been few, if any, human artifacts found dating to within a thousand years or so AFTER the events that took out the megafauna. Indicating of course that whatever snuffed the megafauna likely also snuffed most of the peoples of at least North America. Don’t know about the rest of the world.

  • Comet theory false; doesn't explain Ice Age cold snap, Clovis changes, animal extinction

    05/18/2014 7:19:05 PM PDT · 30 of 45
    ForGod'sSake to Sherman Logan
    What is your explanation for this suppression?

    You've been around here long enough that you should have at least become suspicious of the motives of many in the scientific community™. Uniformitarianism/gradualism is the name; lying is their game. Goes back to at least the early Catholic Church. The PTB don't like to be discovered in their ignorance/malfeasance and they will apparently do whatever is necessary to protect their turf, egos, government grants, whatever. JMO of course...

  • Comet theory false; doesn't explain Ice Age cold snap, Clovis changes, animal extinction

    05/18/2014 7:07:27 PM PDT · 29 of 45
    ForGod'sSake to Sherman Logan
    Then why was much of the mega-fauna extinction limited to the Americas?

    You might point me to where I can study the remaining megafauna in Europe and Asia, excepting the Asian subcontinent where elephants still roam. As far as I can tell, Australia, with the exception of some overly large marsupials, never had much else in the way of megafauna to start with. A quick search indicates there were mammoths/mastodons on the African continent at one time. I didn't look any further to determine when they went missing. NZ and Madagascar???

    There are so many anamolies associated with this time period that trying to put the blame on humans seems a PC endeavor at best and unmitigated propoganda at worst. There are indications of potential cosmic origin, along with pole wanderings, massive volcanism, flooding and enormous waves traversing entire continents; you get the idea...

    From this SEARCH check out the first ARTICLE re boneyards in Alaska and almost complete islands composed of mammoth/mastodon remains in and north of Siberia.

  • Comet theory false; doesn't explain Ice Age cold snap, Clovis changes, animal extinction

    05/18/2014 10:27:20 AM PDT · 21 of 45
    ForGod'sSake to Sherman Logan

    Interesting observations but you forgot to address my first point which was actually the main point. The evidence of catastrophe near the end of the last glaciation is global but studiously ignored/suppressed by the scientific community. I daresay you won’t find much in “prestigious” scientific journals. Why is that?

  • Comet theory false; doesn't explain Ice Age cold snap, Clovis changes, animal extinction

    05/17/2014 9:44:13 PM PDT · 16 of 45
    ForGod'sSake to Sherman Logan
    In the Americas, Oz and elsewhere the animals weren’t adapted to this uniquely effective predator and were wiped out by us.

    Just curious, but how much have you actually looked into the distribution of massive accumulations of megafauna remains and other detritus deposited at or near the end of the last glaciation in North America and elsewhere?

    In any case, for me, the "hunted to extinction" narrative has a "man made global warming" ring to it.