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Posts by imardmd1

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    09/04/2015 7:46:19 PM PDT · 62 of 73
    imardmd1 to ladyjane
    Just what I was thinking!

    "I only did what I was ordered to do. Nicht schuldig!"

  • At a Berlin church, Muslim refugees converting in droves

    09/04/2015 6:18:01 PM PDT · 19 of 19
    imardmd1 to Berlin_Freeper

    “Ye must be born again.” This is not merely “conversion” from one religion to another. Do the refugees know this?

  • The Balanced Approach to Spiritual Victory (from "Drawing Near")(Protestant/Evangelical Caucus)

    09/04/2015 6:03:08 PM PDT · 3 of 4
    imardmd1 to metmom
    What this passage in Ephesians diesn't say is, "Go out and look for a fight."

    What it does say is, ". . . be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore . . ."

    So, stand!

  • Trump's Favorability Soars With Republicans

    09/04/2015 1:08:43 PM PDT · 6 of 12
    imardmd1 to Helicondelta
    >> Trump's Favorability Soars With Some Republicans << (Fixed that.)
  • I'm Back

    09/04/2015 1:03:58 PM PDT · 15 of 105
    imardmd1 to 68 grunt
    American warriors aren't needed until diplomacy fails, and then only as an arm of it. IIRC. Hope this doesn't offend more than extend a welcome.

    Best regards.

  • DOD Sec. Says Gitmo Terrorists Need Indefinite Lockup as Obama Tries Closing Prison

    09/04/2015 11:54:32 AM PDT · 6 of 14
    imardmd1 to jazusamo

    Execute the terrorists that are there, and any more wherever they are found, and close Guantanamo as a country club, worship center, and school for exchanging effective strategies amongst themselves. But keep it as a communications base and toehold on Cuba should we ever desire to extend it.

  • Hating Catholics–America’s ONLY Accepted Prejudice

    09/04/2015 11:42:12 AM PDT · 494 of 494
    imardmd1 to af_vet_1981; metmom; Springfield Reformer; MHGinTN; Mark17
    I cannot tell whether you worship the Bible (Bibliolatry) as the Word of God, . . .

    I'm working on a little longer answer, but to call you to account regarding the pejorative "Bibliolatry," it's more than sensible for me to worship the Bible than it is for you to worship a glass of grape juice, isn't it?

  • Congressional Democrats PAID BY IRANIAN LOBBY to support Obama’s nuke deal

    09/04/2015 5:47:19 AM PDT · 20 of 29
    imardmd1 to HomerBohn
    Delaware Sen. Chris Coons within the past few days has finally plunked down for the Obama line on the Iran deal. Considering that he is a deciding vote, I wonder how much IAPAC money has flown into his coffers to get that suddenly more valuable nod from Coons.


    I wonder how many actual Persians we have in Delaware, as compared to, say, Chicago or LA (where there are a lot.

  • Hating Catholics–America’s ONLY Accepted Prejudice

    09/02/2015 10:41:37 PM PDT · 492 of 494
    imardmd1 to af_vet_1981
    It is truth to me, and since you are unable, or unwilling, to clarify what you meant, I cannot tell whether you worship the Bible (Bibliolatry) as the Word of God, or venerate the Scriptures as does the one holy catholic apostolic church.

    You dance around the topic you chose, answering everything but the question I asked you, for I will not undertake to answer your query until you do. A simple "yea" or "no" to the question will be ample. There is no "maybe."

    Your statement:

    You wrote that the Bible is the Word of God, and that Jesus is the Word of God.

    Yet a third I write, is this truth to you?

    Immediate Reply Please.

    Regarding your Catechism, it is the fallible, uninspired construction of errant men, and has no authority whatsoever over the revealed Word of The God, and is not even in the same class of literature as The Word of God. So please don't bring it up again.

  • Kentucky Clerk Didn’t Follow Christianity Before Converting To It

    09/02/2015 9:07:29 PM PDT · 25 of 39
    imardmd1 to Jedidah
    There was no beggar in the parable.

    Yeah, the story left out the thief-robbers, the priest, the Bible teacher, and the innkeeper, too.

  • Kentucky Clerk Didn’t Follow Christianity Before Converting To It

    09/02/2015 8:50:31 PM PDT · 22 of 39
    imardmd1 to Sasparilla
    Before Damascus, Saul knew a lot about the extant Holy Scriptuers--it's just that his theological seminary had skewed his interpretation way off base, and had added a lot of things to it that were simply not there. Like hundreds of years of traditions of fallible religionists, for instance. And hypocrisy in criticizing others, not following the rulebook themselves.

    Just sayin' --

  • Hating Catholics–America’s ONLY Accepted Prejudice

    09/02/2015 2:32:40 PM PDT · 490 of 494
    imardmd1 to af_vet_1981
    You wrote that the Bible is the Word of God, and that Jesus is the Word of God.

    I write again, is this truth to you? IRP.

  • New Jersey Man Digs Up Live Cannonball in Backyard: Police

    09/02/2015 2:18:21 PM PDT · 38 of 38
    imardmd1 to the OlLine Rebel
  • New Jersey Man Digs Up Live Cannonball in Backyard: Police

    09/02/2015 2:11:57 PM PDT · 37 of 38
    imardmd1 to the OlLine Rebel
    OK, but the point is in the eras of balls, metric would not have been the system used in America.

    Thank you for your observation on this point. I had figured that out, but it became obvious to me that 85mm didn't refer to a five inch object, eh? More like a concussion grenade without a spoon over the tit and as yet unexploded, hmmmm?

  • New Jersey Man Digs Up Live Cannonball in Backyard: Police

    09/02/2015 12:31:42 AM PDT · 28 of 38
    imardmd1 to the OlLine Rebel

    85mm is more like three and a half inches, not five inches, which would be about 125mm (25.4mm - 1.0 inch)

  • Hating Catholics–America’s ONLY Accepted Prejudice

    09/01/2015 9:04:46 PM PDT · 488 of 494
    imardmd1 to af_vet_1981
    You wrote that the Bible is the Word of God, and that Jesus is the Word of God.

    Is this truth to you?

  • Hating Catholics–America’s ONLY Accepted Prejudice

    09/01/2015 6:06:41 PM PDT · 486 of 494
    imardmd1 to af_vet_1981
    And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

    And where did you get that from, your Catechism? Some Papal bull?

    No, you got it from your Bible, and it is my mainstay, of course. So upon what does the foundation of the apostles and prophets stand on? thin air?

    The B-I-B-L-E, yes that's the Book for me --
    I stand alone on the Word of God, the B-I-B-L-E!

    Yes, it stands on the Rock of my salvation, the Son of the Living God, the Word of God personified!

  • Do Christians Who Divorce Have the Biblical Right to Marry Other People?

    09/01/2015 1:23:40 PM PDT · 50 of 54
    imardmd1 to Mom MD

    Bingo, Mom!

  • Do Christians Who Divorce Have the Biblical Right to Marry Other People?

    09/01/2015 1:22:23 PM PDT · 49 of 54
    imardmd1 to Psalm 144

    Think what you want, but in this context, the text is addressing physical treatment, not emotional or spiritual fidelity. There is no figurative sense to this. A Hindu woman turning from idols to God has no excuse for leaving her Hindu husband, to whom she still owes allegiance (for instance).

  • Hating Catholics–America’s ONLY Accepted Prejudice

    09/01/2015 9:39:27 AM PDT · 484 of 494
    imardmd1 to af_vet_1981
    Nope even the language prevents Simon from being the rock upon which His local church and the churches it plants are to be built. Where the Romanists leve is abandoning the Scriptural foundation of Christ and His Word, and placing themselves in authority over it. I don't know how many thousand times we've been over this, but the Romanists simply are beyond recognizing the truth of the Gospel, and insist on their predominance, rather than Jesus' Preeminence in the lives of His regenerated believer-disciple-priests and saints.

    Come back another day. With the right doctrine, the keys of the Gospel given not only to Peter, but all the disciples to come, you will be able to enter. So far, no, and you-all don't even seem to recognize it. But now, the Savior is calling me to His work of making more disciples.

    Bye for now --

  • Do Christians Who Divorce Have the Biblical Right to Marry Other People?

    09/01/2015 4:23:59 AM PDT · 36 of 54
    imardmd1 to Tax-chick
    There is no Biblical grounds for divorce, except for violation of the espousal period in the Jewish model under the Law. The "exception clause" does not apply to a Gentile marriage. Jesus did not say it was allowed, He specifically forbade it in Matthew, Mark, and Luke.

    Separation from sin and abuse, yes; divorce, no.

  • Real Spiritual: Decline

    09/01/2015 2:15:41 AM PDT · 10 of 10
    imardmd1 to TBP
    Not our fault. It's part of God's timeline.

    To Laodicea:

    Rev. 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

    To the "religious" plurality:

    Mt. 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of (the) many shall wax cold.

  • Do Christians Who Divorce Have the Biblical Right to Marry Other People?

    09/01/2015 1:58:09 AM PDT · 35 of 54
    imardmd1 to Psalm 144
    Abuse, desertion, failure to support. Are these perhaps encompassed in infidelity or adultery?

    No. failure to support definitely not a cause in either case. Abuse may demand separation, but divorce for that is not in God's repertoire. If the mate is heathen and wants divorce, let them go without complaint--don't abase yourself by clinging to the other. But remain unattached. Remarriage is not God's plan if you want to stay close to Him and get His support; and for sure, one-night stands are not a part of it either. Or for your children.

    All this has sound, clear instructions on marriage from the NT pastoral letters.

  • Do Christians Who Divorce Have the Biblical Right to Marry Other People?

    09/01/2015 1:48:09 AM PDT · 34 of 54
    imardmd1 to Dilbert San Diego; xzins; Legatus
    I’m not a Bible scholar by any means.

    It's good that you mentioned this, because the suppositions you make are worldly, of the mindset of the children of Satan, and not of the Biblical culture of mature Christ-followers. In fact, the essence is missed by the author of this article as well.

    The keys to this are that:

    (1) The context is that Gospel of Matthew/Levi is primarily addressed to the Jewish culture at the time of Jesus' earthly ministry, and only secondarily to the general Christian population in later history.

    (2) The audiences for his teaching in Matthew 5 were His disciples with multitudes overhearing; and in chapter 19, Pharisees with disciples looking on.

    (3) The "escape clause" found in 5:32 and 19:9 apply only to the Jewish marriage contract which under the Law was composed of a trial period of espousal of the husband and wife, during which the couple (most particularly the wife) remained celibate to avoid any taint of their first-born child being a product of an illicit relationship.

    (4) Even during the espousal period, the couple were fully and contractually husband and wife, a quite different scheme than today's "engagement" followed by instituting the legal husband-wife bond only finally at the moment of the civil or religious rite of solemnization of the vows.

    (5) The "exception clause" did not then, nor does it now in Gentile society, apply to the couple whose marriage consummation occurred on the wedding night, with cohabitation continuing thereafter.

    (6) The last chance to exercise the "exception clause" in a Jewish marriage on the morning following the bridal night of consummation, and then only if the husband finds that she cannot prove her virginity. Going on living as man and wife, even for one night, erases any justification for "putting away" ones marital partner.

    (7) The consequence of adultery under the Mosaic Covenant is not the separation and divorce as practiced by Gentiles: the penalty is death for the adulterers; and freedom to remarry by the "innocent" party.

    (8) Otherwise, under the New Covenant, if the couple desire and are permitted to divorce, either of the couple joining to another in a marital bond, even as common-law cohabitation without solemnization, is remarriage adultery.

    (9) For a remarried couple in which either or both are committed to following Jesus, the only solution is for them to cease to cohabit, to remain celibate, with both carrying our their responsibilities to any issue of the union, as well as to support each other in other material ways that do not compromise their standing before the Christian community as obedient servants of the Lord.

    (10) Please recall, this is exactly the situation Joseph found himself in when his espoused wife Mary was found with child before they came together. Under the Law, he could have asked for her death by stoning. but his gentle heart caused him to contempate "putting her away privily" so as to avoid an unwelcome fuss; but the Angel of the Lord appealed to him to go on, giving the reasons why. And Joseph complied.

    These are the facts.


    Of the author of this article, Shane Idleman is claimed to be a Bible-preaching pastor, of whom it is said (on his web site):

    "But when truth is sacrificed for the sake of relating to the culture, as we see today, the very foundation is destroyed. Truth, the foundational beliefs clearly outlined in Scripture, must remain unmoved and unchanged. Times change, but truth does not!"

    Now, that is a nice thought, but in this article he is not quite willing to step up to the plate, grit his teeth, and preach what the Bible says, without fear of the smoking replies that would result.

    Instead, he backs water and preaches a watered-down gospel that gives permission for the popular (but not with his recommendation) solution for the perplexed believers who yearn for another companion when the separation has become very real. Though a popular preacher, he is apparently not yet spiritually mature enough to stand up for Jesus and against the crowd of naive chapel adherents which really needs this admonition.

    To balance this comment, please know that it is coming from a man who was divorced by his wife in 1972, and has determined not to be remarried, according to Scripture. I cannot tell you how many compensating rewards the Lord has provided to offset this unwanted event, but He has more than supplied everything needed to gain s knowledge of His Comforting Presence that would never have been available had I not followed His Will regarding marriage.

    Be thus instructed, eh?

  • Hating Catholics–America’s ONLY Accepted Prejudice

    08/31/2015 8:38:00 PM PDT · 470 of 494
    imardmd1 to verga
    And that is precisely why Sola Scriptura is wrong. Once You eliminate the 2000 years of Sacred Tradition, all you have left is personal interpretation of the scripture in light of personal experience.

    I see a tiny flaw in the logic of your argument here.

    On the one hand we have the inspired, inerrant, Holy Scriptures progressively revealed from the mouth of God to the mouth of the prophets by The Holy Spirit, and written down word by word in the language in which it was given, appearing from the time of Moses and Job until the death of the not-pope Beloved Apostle John The Theologian, at which time the Books of The Bible were closed with no further entries about 100 AD. That comprises about maybe 1,600 years of Divine Revelation.

    On the other hand, we have about 1,900 years of uninspired, errant, fallible humans of limited intellect, knowledge, and vision of the future, baldly contradicting the Word of God as well as its faithful copiers, translators, and interpreters, to rewrite it and confuse the readers of its plain sense and common sense, assassinating its preachers and believers.

    And all this is based on the cumulative effect of personal interpretations by influential people forcing their views on a credulous group of sycophants, calling their Romanist dominance "Sacred Tradition," denying the authority The God has fixed on His Word, and doing their say damndest to silence their opposition, condemning them all as "heretics."

    I think you know what I'm going to tell you what to do with your twisted view as to who is doing all the inconsistent personal interpretation, whilst wagging their fingers at the reader adequately educated to make his/her own judgment on the reliability of the Bible as the sufficient rule of both faith and and practice.

  • Hating Catholics–America’s ONLY Accepted Prejudice

    08/31/2015 12:11:12 PM PDT · 446 of 494
    imardmd1 to MHGinTN
    Yes, Jesus gave the Olivet Discourse TO believers, but it was not an ekklesia building discourse, it was to answer the insistence as to what shall be the SIGNS of the arrival of the end of the age

    One needs to take the Law of Double Reference into account. As Antiochus Epiphanes foreshadowed the Anti-christ, so perhaps the occasion of 70 AD (Tisha b'Av) (as a judgment on the Jewish nation) has foreshadowed the 70th week of completion of God's judgment on the rest of the world's nations (Mt. 25:31-33) after the 7-year final Tribulation, when He pens up Satan and comes with His saints to institute His Earthly Kingdom.

    Just a suggestion --

  • Beautiful Christian music link for new traditional God honoring music

    08/30/2015 9:18:49 PM PDT · 40 of 45
    imardmd1 to RaceBannon
    Checked a few. Nice melodies, arrangements, avd instrumentation employment. Clearly not carnal approach, as most modern attemts have been. Need the lyrics to evaluate doctrinal approach.

    You are to be commended for seeking these spiritual songs out, and bringing them to the attention of this site.

    Real Christian verse composers and arrangers are sorely needed in our age. We have too many musicians who become "Christian" and somehow think they are Christian musicians. It takes many years of spiritual maturation to even think verse stories and melodies really glorify God rather than the composer.

  • Dover police officer shoots armed man; injury not serious

    08/30/2015 8:54:21 PM PDT · 11 of 16
    imardmd1 to keving

    It’s an open carry state, theoretically, but no one does. Anyone feeling threatened by the presence of a holstered gun just calls 911, and the State Police sees that it doesn’t happen again.

  • Donald Trump's Newest Campaign Ad [satire]

    08/30/2015 11:48:16 AM PDT · 35 of 218
    imardmd1 to Laissez-faire capitalist

    No itemized program, just a crystal ball.

  • Chris Christie: Track Illegals Like FedEx Packages

    08/30/2015 4:29:16 AM PDT · 34 of 75
    imardmd1 to conservative98

    So what would be done with the accumulating data? Just keep in letting the aliens wander around like the rest of normal born citizens we track? Per HRC, “What difference does it make?”

  • Sciatica

    08/29/2015 10:50:03 PM PDT · 118 of 145
    imardmd1 to JohnBrowdie
    my advice to you is to quit asking medical questions on a political forum, and go see a doctor.

    I think that's an approach to be very careful of. Some of the worst advice on back pain comes from the medical doctors, as I found out to my chagrin. Their advice of muscle relaxants, hot packs, and initiating exercises while in pain was absolutely worse than just resting.

    When I went to a wise (not a foolish) chiropractor (and there are quite a few fools in that business, IMO), I barely crawled in, but walked out. And save a couple of instances needing brief care, I kept on alking without pain.

    The best people for muscle/joint injuries are experienced trainers of athletes who deal with this all the time, if disease or surgical procedures are not in the picture.

  • Sciatica

    08/29/2015 10:32:36 PM PDT · 117 of 145
    imardmd1 to Maine Mariner
    Been thru it. This is what I found:

    (1)Do a walletectomy. That is, if you carry your billfold on the hip, it twists your lower back Keep your billfold in a side jacket or pant pocket.

    (2) Ibuprofen only, not principally as a "pain" medicine, bu as an anti-inflammatory.

    (3) NO HOT PACKS! These only aggravate inflammation. Cold packs only, helps together with ibuprofen to diminish inflammation so healing can start to take place.

    (4) NO straining exercises! This undoes the reattachment and healing! No exercises until healing is complete. The back muscles can get relief by lying on your stomach and resting your elevated trunk by leaning in your forearms to arch your back. This completely removes streaa from the muscles in the small of your back.

    (5) The problems causing low back painmay be aggravated by tense neck muscles and strained vertebrae. Nod your head three times from erect down to the right, then three times to the left, then three times forward, then three times to the rear. Do this ecery three or four hours to free up your neck vertebrae.

    (6) Sleep on your side, but place a fat pillow between your knes to relieve the back muscles.

    (7) Athletes have racks where they can hang from their heels, thus the hung body weight relieves pressure on your joints long enough to help heal ligaments. (8) Do not let pain pills or muscle relaxants or anti-inflammatory medicines give you the idea that now you can now increase body activity . . . until more pain sets in due to more damage that the medicines can no longer relieve. That is contraindicated. Take the pills and just rest, avoiding stress. It is after the healing has taken place that exercise can strengthen the muscle and ligaments when the Wlliams Low Back Exercises are not so vigorous as to reintroduce painful damage.

    (9) NEVER do full situps. Only take them to the point of raising the shoulders off the floor, not the whole trunk.

    (10) When enough healing tahes place, you can do pushups on the stairs with your feet on the ;anging and your hand on the steps.


    (Incorporating advice from a wise chiropractor and a very experienced professor of treatment of athletes at the local university, as applied to myself. When you begin to feel fit again, go to the local karate instructor and get the illustrated sheet of their warmup exercises, whic will be bvery helpful in keeping muscle tone.)

  • Texas Deputy Executed Days After Black Radical Group Calls for Killing Cops

    08/29/2015 3:23:00 PM PDT · 56 of 58
    imardmd1 to DaveA37
    . . . Marshal Law . . .

    Martial law puts the government and policing into the hands of state and/or federal troops. "Martial" is derived from Mars, the god of War.

    Just a small--but very significant--correction of the English.

  • Questions on Acts 3

    08/28/2015 6:03:32 PM PDT · 17 of 17
    imardmd1 to LearsFool
    7. Is it possible to just "sit on the fence" and not make a decision either way about Jesus?

    "Sitting on the fence" IS a decision -- to go to Hell.

  • Did God Send A Prophet to Rebuke John MacArthur?

    08/28/2015 3:24:33 AM PDT · 154 of 158
    imardmd1 to Elsie; Greetings_Puny_Humans
    Let's cut to the chase...

    Go on to Chapter 13 of this letter primarily intended for the Corinthians, and see what happens to a lot of these 1st Century temporary grace-gifts when the complete Bible was finally finished and completed, after the ~2,500+ years of progressive revelation that ceased by 100 AD.

  • Did God Send A Prophet to Rebuke John MacArthur?

    08/28/2015 3:07:53 AM PDT · 152 of 158
    imardmd1 to Elsie

    He’s got a skinfull, obviously. ust’ve been chewin’ on the mash . . .

  • Did God Send A Prophet to Rebuke John MacArthur?

    08/28/2015 3:05:41 AM PDT · 151 of 158
    imardmd1 to Elsie

    That, too . . .

  • Did God Send A Prophet to Rebuke John MacArthur?

    08/28/2015 3:03:40 AM PDT · 150 of 158
    imardmd1 to Elsie
    Which translation expert supplied the text found therein?

    St. John, speaking in tongues

  • Did God Send A Prophet to Rebuke John MacArthur?

    08/27/2015 11:17:30 PM PDT · 141 of 158
    imardmd1 to AppyPappy
    Luk 5:39 And you don’t want new wine after drinking old wine. ‘The old is better,’ you say.”

    Don't get confused here. The "new wine" of verses 37, 38, and 39 is οινον νεον (oinon=wine, neon=new), and is the fluid made in the fall, by crushing grapes picked in the fall, and put in learher bags (translated "bottles") right away in the fall while it is still fresh before the sugar content incompletely ferments to ethanol in the absence of air, rather than turning to vinegar, acetic acid, as it would by completely fermenting in open containers exposed to air.

    The "new wine" spoken of in Acts 2:13, at the time of Pentecost, which is early summer, is not the same thing at all. The Greek word for it is γλευκους (gleukous, from which we get the word for the sugar form 'glucose') and it is not at all the freshly mde wine/juice of the fall. Here is what the commentator Adam Clarke says about it:

    "Acts 2:13
    These men are full of new wine
    - Rather sweet wine, for γλευκους, cannot mean the mustum, or new wine, as there could be none in Judea so early as pentecost. The Γλευκος, gleucus, seems to have been a peculiar kind of wine, and is thus described by Hesychius and Suidas: Γλευκος, το αποσταγμα της σταφυλης, πριν πατηθῃ. Gleucus is that which distils from the grape before it is pressed. This must be at once both the strongest and sweetest wine. Calmet observes that the ancients had the secret of preserving wine sweet through the whole year, and were fond of taking morning draughts of it: to this Horace appears to refer, Sat. l. ii. s. iv. ver. 24."

    So please set this Acts reference aside for a moment. I am trying to get you to step up to the plate and answer the questions I asked you in Post #135, which were about the "new wine," the freshly-pressed wine made in the fall, and its first condition immediately as it is put in the goatskins. Do you agree that the Fall New wine is not yet intoxicating?

    Yes or No will do.

  • Did God Send A Prophet to Rebuke John MacArthur?

    08/27/2015 6:03:01 PM PDT · 135 of 158
    imardmd1 to AppyPappy
    Show me any of those verses that say the wine does not contain alcohol.

    First, let meask you a couple of questions:

    "So shall thy barns be filled with plenty, and thy presses shall burst out with new wine" (Prov. 3:10 AV).

    This new wine is just coming out of the presses and caught in open containers. This new wine has no alcohol in it as it comes from the presses. Are you good with that?

    "Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved" (Mt,9:17 AV; cf Mk. 2:22, Lk. 5:37-38).

    The new wine is poured from the storage containers into sewn-up watertight new leather goatskins. The filled goatskins are sealed tight to exclude any exposure to air. This sealed-up new wine has no alcohol in it yet. Are you good with this, too?

    If not, please tell me why.

    Thank you.

  • Did God Send A Prophet to Rebuke John MacArthur?

    08/27/2015 3:52:04 PM PDT · 133 of 158
    imardmd1 to AppyPappy
    Mat_26:29 But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.

    Mar_14:25 Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God.

    Pro_3:10 So shall thy barns be filled with plenty, and thy presses shall burst out with new wine. Luk_5:38 But new wine must be put into new bottles; and both are preserved.

    Isa_65:8 Thus saith the LORD, As the new wine is found in the cluster, and one saith, Destroy it not; for a blessing is in it: so will I do for my servants' sakes, that I may not destroy them all.

    All the above talk about unfermented wine. When Jesus sets up His kingdom, the wine will be grape juice, not Chianti. Pro_23:31 Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright.

    Fermentation changes the absorption spectrum of anthocyanins, thus absorbing in the blue and transmitting red. Thus purple grape juice, which is new wine, turns from purple to red when it ferments. God's Word commands "Don't even look at red (alcoholic) wine, when it sparkles (changes refractive index) in the cup, when it stands aright (shows preferential evaporation at the interface between the fluid and the cup surface). Why would the Cana wine be red when He says not to drink it? Did he not come to fulfil The Law, not undermine it?

    Mat_5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

    You don't have an argument. Wine can be either alcoholic or not, depending on the context, Old Testament or New Testament, whether you like it, or believe it, or not.

    When Jesus comes to set up His Kingdom, the refreshing wine will be non-alcoholic.

  • Did God Send A Prophet to Rebuke John MacArthur?

    08/27/2015 3:16:47 PM PDT · 132 of 158
    imardmd1 to roamer_1
    I guess you answered questions I didn't ask.

    Paraphrasing W. C. Fields, " A man that hates scribes and Pharseesa can't be all wrong . . ."

  • Did God Send A Prophet to Rebuke John MacArthur?

    08/27/2015 3:04:58 PM PDT · 131 of 158
    imardmd1 to Elsie

    You’re probably right. Sometimes I get excited and go off half cocked. One has to be nimble here to follow what’s going on.

  • Did God Send A Prophet to Rebuke John MacArthur?

    08/27/2015 3:00:27 PM PDT · 130 of 158
    imardmd1 to roamer_1

    Thanks for your insights, but I see you haven’t studied Bible wines, wine-making, or preservation of grape syrup as practiced in Bible days. The Scriptures have a lot of things to say about wine consumption and abstinence from it. Maybe doing some study in that area would give a little depth to your understanding of those topics.

    And how would you be able to judge whether the interpretation I gave was bent or not? Perhaps you liked the translation another poster gave that mine addressed?

  • Did God Send A Prophet to Rebuke John MacArthur?

    08/27/2015 2:46:30 PM PDT · 127 of 158
    imardmd1 to Elsie

    Not to all the kids there — ?

  • Did God Send A Prophet to Rebuke John MacArthur?

    08/27/2015 2:45:00 PM PDT · 126 of 158
    imardmd1 to Elsie

    Yeah. Is that Dopey?

  • Did God Send A Prophet to Rebuke John MacArthur?

    08/27/2015 2:42:58 PM PDT · 124 of 158
    imardmd1 to Elsie

    Yeah. Think of that, 2,000 drunks?

  • Did God Send A Prophet to Rebuke John MacArthur?

    08/27/2015 2:38:10 PM PDT · 123 of 158
    imardmd1 to Boogieman
    Why would he mention it if he wasn’t making a point relevant to THAT particular event?

    He mentions it, and the context says so, is precisely because what he is experiencing at this event is something he is not at all used to dealing with.

    Why do you think that God would give up so much space to describe this event in a volume in which space is a premium, Does He not have something to teach here?

    The purpose for this, at the inauguration of Jesus' public ministry, was to manifest His glory through miracles. Do you think that serving gallons and gallons of more booze to drunks would glorify Him then or today? The conclusions you draw from your POV do not glorify Him. The just make Him a party magic entertainer. Where is the spiritual benefit in it for you?

    And why would just making more Thunderbird cause his disciples to commit their trust in Him such that theywould abandon their livelihoods to chase after Him?

    To me, your ideas are the ones that don't make sense.

    And neither do they tell the lesson That God wants us to get here. Did He come to save sinners? or to enable alcoholics? Which?

  • Did God Send A Prophet to Rebuke John MacArthur?

    08/27/2015 1:51:32 PM PDT · 121 of 158
    imardmd1 to daniel1212
    I've got Martin's book, too; and also have in hand my summary of Dr. Martin's discussion with Dr. Julius Mantey, Greek grammarian, in which Mantey excoriates the Watchtower Society for their gross misquote of his work in order to claim that he supports their New World (mis)Translation.

    I put it in my door to give to JWs who pass by.

  • Did God Send A Prophet to Rebuke John MacArthur?

    08/27/2015 1:40:32 PM PDT · 118 of 158
    imardmd1 to Elsie
    Then WHERE did the 'cheaper' stuff come from?

    Excellent! You've finally got the point that the text says there wasn't any "cheaper" forerunner, and that the caterer never said there was. The text says that it (the wedding banquet) lacked wine, and that Jesus' mother said, "They are not having wine."

    (By the way, I've run this translation past a highly qualified expert in the Greek and Hebrew languages, and he agreed that my interpretation of this passage is correct.)

    This is consistent with the feast-master not complaining about having to serve crappy refreshments before the best was brought out.

    BTW, I have a PhD in solid state chemistry, and used to pick grapes in the vineyard of a Swiss-born wine-maker and brewmaster-consultant to a company making beverage storage vessels. Appeal to authority, heh? Truth.