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  • GOP (Leadership) forms strategy to OK guest workers (Sneak In Amnesty???)

    12/07/2005 2:00:09 PM PST · 152 of 175
    judgeandjury to Owen
    No, there is not. You need to study the nation's demographics. There are not enough American working age people. Period. Full stop. There is no way around this. The population of the US does not have enough working age people to fund SS. The way to address that is very precisely what you suggest, and what I suggest. We're in agreement. Have the job done by legal immigrant workers -- which is what an illegal becomes after enduring his punishment and parole.

    Only in this way can the SS tax base keep your parents from starving and allow you to retain your conservative credentials by opposing tax increases.

    No, we are not in agreement. You want to reward illegal alien lawbbreakers and I don't. There are currently millions of able-bodied Americans on welfare. We need to kick these Americans off of welfare and put them to work, or let them starve. In addition, we need to increase the number of legal immigrants that we let into the United States. There are currently tens of millions of foreigners around the world who have already filed their paperwork and who are waiting patiently for their turn to legally immigrate to the United States. These are the people who I want to reward with jobs, not the illegal aliens who have no respect for our laws.

    By deporting the illegal aliens and letting in more legal immigrants (along with kicking Americans off of welfare), Social Security will continue to get funded and we won't need to increase taxes.

  • GOP (Leadership) forms strategy to OK guest workers (Sneak In Amnesty???)

    12/07/2005 12:07:04 PM PST · 145 of 175
    judgeandjury to Owen
    But this is not how the world would work if illegals are punished and paroled. As fully documented workers, they would insist on jobs where SS is witheld from their paychecks for the very obvious reason that this is how they would qualify for their own pensions someday.

    There you go again, advocating rewarding lawbreakers for violating our immigration laws. We don't need illegal aliens in the United States for any reason. Any job currently being done by an illegal alien can be done by an American worker or a legal immigrant worker.

    If you advocate deportation rather than punishment through fine, documenting and expanding the SS tax base, then you are advocating tax increases. There Is No Mathematical Way Around This. Demographics define this.

    Make your choice. Do you advocate extra government spending on escorted busrides to the border and sharp, painful increases in SS taxes or do you want to punish illegals, parole them and make them contributing members of society. There are no other choices.

    Yes there is another choice. Deport all illegal alien lawbreakers and replace them with American workers and legal immigrant workers. By doing this, we will be expanding the SS tax base and we won't need to increase SS taxes.

  • GOP (Leadership) forms strategy to OK guest workers (Sneak In Amnesty???)

    12/06/2005 10:07:37 PM PST · 135 of 175
    judgeandjury to Owen
    Why is this called amnesty? Clearly it is, rather, punishment and parole. They are punished for their crime, they pay their debt to society and they then are documented and fund your parents' Social Security. What can possibly be bad about this?

    Legal immigrants can also fund Social Security. If we need more foreign workers, we can let in more legal immigrants. We don't need illegal aliens in the United States for any reason.

    This proposal I'm making is a punishment and parole program. They violated the law. They are punished properly as is any other lawbreaker. They then toe the line and fund Social Security. Get It Through Your Heads. There is No Other Source Of Working Age Adults Available. Period and Full Stop. If you advocate deportation of working age people, you are an advocate of Social Security tax increases.

    I want to replace illegal alien lawbreakers with legal immigrants who haven't violated our immigration laws. By doing this, Social Security will continue to be funded and Social Security taxes will not need to be increased.

    This proposal is about funding Social Security and it is about the men, or single non mother women. It is they who it makes no sense economically to deport.

    If we deport illegal aliens and replace them with legal immigrants, we will keep the American economy going strong.

  • GOP (Leadership) forms strategy to OK guest workers (Sneak In Amnesty???)

    12/06/2005 8:29:34 PM PST · 131 of 175
    judgeandjury to Owen
    One who pays a fine and executes the process for becoming a proper legal immigrant can't really be called amnetized, can they? Would not amnesty presume no fine, i.e., no debt to society was paid?

    If an amnesty is given to the millions of illegal aliens currently in the United States, our federal government will have forgiven the fact that these illegal aliens entered the country illegally by not enforcing the laws against them that mandate that they should be deported for having violated our immigration laws. Just because these illegal aliens might be required to pay a fee (or a fine, if you please) doesn't mean that these illegal aliens didn't receive an amnesty for having violated our laws.

  • Impact of Illegal Immigration on You

    12/06/2005 8:00:53 PM PST · 14 of 17
    judgeandjury to mexicansrule
    well i just wanted to say that this may be a lie. it has been proven that immigration actually helps the economy

    Legal immigration is good for the economy. Illegal immigration is lawbreaking, pure and simple. We don't need illegal aliens in the United States for any reason. Any illegal alien currently working in the United States can be replaced by an American worker or a legal immigrant worker without any harmful effect to the economy.

    because i don't think any one alse is willing to go work out in a field in a 102 degree day. they help bring those wonderful fruit to the table everyday. and plus, almost everyone buys the stuff that the immigrants make.

    Millions of Americans work in the fields every day, planting, raising, and picking our fruits and vegetables, and bringing them to our tables. These Americans, who work in all kinds of weather, including 102 degree days, are the people who I buy my fruits and vegetables from.

    in my opinion i don't think you should judge the "illegal immigrants" as much as you do.

    Illegal aliens should be judged for what they are, lawbreakers.

  • Immigrant family in Lowell fears years of making a life in U.S. will end in deportation

    12/06/2005 11:27:26 AM PST · 67 of 71
    judgeandjury to rlmorel
    They seem like nice people, hard working, polite

    Many American lawbreakers are nice people, hard working, and polite. But they're still lawbreakers.

  • Immigrant family in Lowell fears years of making a life in U.S. will end in deportation

    12/06/2005 11:21:09 AM PST · 65 of 71
    judgeandjury to dennisw

    Deport the lawbreakers!

  • GOP (Leadership) forms strategy to OK guest workers (Sneak In Amnesty???)

    12/06/2005 11:18:02 AM PST · 90 of 175
    judgeandjury to Owen
    To save Social Security, there must be a procedure put into place to convert these people into tax paying residents.

    Or we could simply replace him with a legal immigrant worker, and then the legal immigrant worker would be paying into Social Security.

  • Eagles pursuing part of T.O.'s signing bonus

    12/05/2005 10:00:08 PM PST · 36 of 36
    judgeandjury to right right
    Until they rein in the egos of these loons, they will continue acting like children. Have almost completely gone to college ball because the players behavior in the pros makes me want to turn the set off.

    I feel the same way. There seems to be at least one player engaging in WWF-type theatrics after just about every play in the NFL nowadays, making it very difficult to watch. Thank goodness for college football!

  • Let 'Tookie' live for the good he's doing

    12/05/2005 7:36:52 PM PST · 136 of 146
    judgeandjury to NathanR
    Capital punishment does not deter murder. States with the death penalty have a higher rate of murder than those without it.

    It seems to me that the states with the highest murder rates would naturally have more of a need and desire to have the death penalty available to use against the many convicted murderers in those states.

  • How is immigration reform none of Mexico's business?

    12/05/2005 1:34:59 PM PST · 17 of 36
    judgeandjury to DumpsterDiver
    As a flood of xenophobia-tinged border security and immigrant-crackdown bills work their way through both houses of the U.S. Congress

    Meanwhile, the Mexican government has military troops stationed on its southern border to prevent foreigners from Central America and South America from illegally entering Mexico. It looks as if the xenophobic Mexican government is cracking down on immigrants who want to enter Mexico.

  • Dean: GOP Will Use Immigration to Divide

    12/03/2005 7:56:50 PM PST · 78 of 82
    judgeandjury to Jorge
    It's the degree of hostility and anger of those opposing it that I take exception to.
    Especially in a nation of immigrants.

    Yes, a nation of legal immigrants that resents the fact that millions of foreigners are violating our country's immigration laws by being in the United States illegally.

  • Dean: GOP Will Use Immigration to Divide

    12/03/2005 7:52:48 PM PST · 77 of 82
    judgeandjury to Jorge
    They are among the most divisive issues I have EVER read here on FR.

    Divisive between FReepers who are pro-illegal immigration and FReepers who are anti-illegal immigration.

  • Dean: GOP Will Use Immigration to Divide

    12/03/2005 1:27:25 PM PST · 18 of 82
    judgeandjury to Sub-Driver
    Dean said the government should have an "earned legalization" amnesty program in which immigrants illegal aliens who contribute to society and pay taxes should be able to earn the right to become citizens.
  • Atheists File Suit Against UHP Memorial Crosses

    12/02/2005 4:44:37 PM PST · 191 of 200
    judgeandjury to mc6809e
    The state has no right to the free exercise of religion. That would be the same as establishing religion which is prohibited by the first amendment.

    Only if it's done by way of a law being passed. "Congress shall make no law....."

  • Atheists File Suit Against UHP Memorial Crosses

    12/02/2005 4:37:09 PM PST · 189 of 200
    judgeandjury to Andyman
    Atheists File Suit Against UHP Memorial Crosses

    Atheists have no shame.

  • LANDS END NEUTERS CHRISTMAS (and asking for your feedback!)

    12/02/2005 4:23:34 PM PST · 93 of 164
    judgeandjury to whattajoke
    can we please start worrying about important things rather than this pap?

    How about if we start worrying about important things in addition to this "pap"? Or can't you worry about more than one thing at a time like other people can?

  • America's illegal immigrants

    12/02/2005 12:18:56 PM PST · 51 of 55
    judgeandjury to Ben Ficklin
    Let me suggest that you follow Plutarch's link in #45 and read study the article there. It has a high degree of credibility and contradicts you.

    There is nothing in any article that contradicts the fact that we don't need illegal alien lawbreakers in the United States. If we do need more foreign workers, Congress can increase the number of foreigners who will be allowed to legally immigrate to the United States, even under a guest worker program if necessary.

  • 31 seeking day labor arrested in Home Depot lot

    12/02/2005 11:58:49 AM PST · 127 of 215
    judgeandjury to moonshine mike
    great workers too. i would hire them if they were in my town. I can't get a white appalachian worker to put in more than 5 hours before he "is tooooo tired".

    You would knowingly hire illegal aliens? If you do, I hope you get arrested for doing so and end up doing time behind bars.

  • America's illegal immigrants

    12/01/2005 11:15:14 PM PST · 46 of 55
    judgeandjury to Ben Ficklin

    The bottom line is that we don't need illegal aliens in the United States for any reason. Any job that needs to be filled can be filled by either American workers or legal immigrant workers. If we need additional workers, Congress can increase the number of legal immigrants that we let in, either by way of a guest worker program or other visa programs. We can also kick able-bodied Americans off of welfare to increase the number of available workers.