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  • Fresh Gaza hostilities likely Wednesday. IDF to expand counteraction for Hamas rockets

    08/26/2014 1:44:46 PM PDT · 12 of 14
    Longbow1969 to BeauBo
    Or maybe Debka was just blowing it out their butt...

    This.

    DEBKA is rarely right. It's been posted here and elsewhere for years as a source and has almost become something of a joke. I'd say DEBKA is a few people sitting around making educated guesses - and mostly bad ones.

    It's been very obvious that Bibi did not want to send troops into Gaza for any longer than he had too. The tunnels was all he felt he could do without major casualties. As of today another cease fire deal has been inked and Bibi's poll numbers have tanked.

    People on this forum and generally in the US have this idea that Netanyahu is this war hawk tough guy, but in reality he is very cautious and tends to be more of a "speak loudly and look for the easiest way out" camp. Many in Israel consider this fight against Hamas as having been a loss. Netanyahu may pay a steep price for letting things end this way since Hamas can legitimately claim some small achievements as far as border crossings, fishing rights, etc.

  • Ferguson fallout: Obama opens door to ‘reexamining’ military gear program for local police

    08/18/2014 5:30:50 PM PDT · 42 of 60
    Longbow1969 to BunnySlippers
    we have some people here on FR who do not like the militarization of the police. It’s necessary.

    At least in urban and heavily minority areas it is. These zones of government dependency are powder kegs caused by the misery and soul/family destroying handout mentality.

    Conservatives have different opinions on this "militarization" issue, but this Ferguson situation has nothing to do with it. These blacks are not rioting, looting and burning down their own neighborhoods because of some "militarization" problem. If anything, these thugs and criminals have proven that police, at least in certain areas, needs as much firepower as possible.

  • Palin backs Tea Party favorite Joe Miller for Alaska GOP Senate nod

    08/15/2014 3:00:47 PM PDT · 12 of 36
    Longbow1969 to Syncro

    No thanks. Miller ran a terrible campaign last time and I see no reason to think he is anyway prepared to defeat Begich in what could be a tough general election. At least he has now said he will support the eventual nominee.

  • Fresh Gaza hostilities likely Wednesday. IDF to expand counteraction for Hamas rockets

    08/13/2014 4:07:58 PM PDT · 10 of 14
    Longbow1969 to GeronL
    Destroy Hamas and ISIS could be running Gaza

    Yup, I think that is one concern. My guess is Israel will do what it normally does under such situations - find out all it can about the ISIS types (or anyone more radical than Hamas) and passes the information on to Egyptian intelligence with the intention that they in turn will give it to Hamas. Hamas is pretty brutal about killing any actual rivals, so they are just as likely to use every shred of information they can get to kill ISIS flag wavers.

    As said, nothing is what it appears in the Middle East.

  • Fresh Gaza hostilities likely Wednesday. IDF to expand counteraction for Hamas rockets

    08/13/2014 4:00:01 PM PDT · 8 of 14
    Longbow1969 to BeauBo
    Let’s see if Debka is right, calling a near term ramp up of aggressiveness against Hamas after this cease fire.

    While there is some tit for tat right now as the previous ceasefire expired, it looks to me like the gist of the DEBKA article was dead wrong. It appears that Israel is generally looking to agree to a new 5 day ceasefire. Situation is still fluid as I type this.

    So far, I have been disappointed by the lack of a strategic victory against Hamas.

    Perhaps you are assuming incorrectly that Israel actually wants to destroy Hamas. I would suggest that Israel is far more interested, at this time anyway, at just degrading them and leaving them to govern and provide services in Gaza. I think the outcome they'd like is to continue squeezing them along with Egypt and let Hamas flame out on their own and have the PA return triumphantly.

    In my opinion, Debka will sometimes indulge in this, or be used for this purpose, perhaps by some political or intelligence organizations.

    I think they just make stuff up. Over the years they have proven to be not only wrong, but spectacularly wrong over and over again. You and I know nothing is as it seems in the Middle East, and it seems to be that DEBKA often simply fabricates nonsense out of thin air - and when they sometimes get something right it is no more than the same educated guesses we could make.

    We'll all watch and see how things develop.

  • Fresh Gaza hostilities likely Wednesday. IDF to expand counteraction for Hamas rockets

    08/12/2014 4:10:02 PM PDT · 5 of 14
    Longbow1969 to BeauBo

    Why does anybody link to or bother with DEBKA. They just make stuff up out of thin air. This may or may not be true, flip a coin. At the moment it looks much more like Israel wants to do a deal to end the Gaza conflict.

  • In Ukraine, Separatist Commander 'Strelkov' Seems To Be Getting Frustrated

    08/09/2014 2:11:16 PM PDT · 4 of 28
    Longbow1969 to Tailgunner Joe

    Uh-oh, our resident Putinista’s aren’t going to like this.

    Looks like their darling “separatists” are falling apart - even with Russian weapons (including heavy anti aircraft batteries)crossing the border into their hands.

    If this “separatist” movement were so popular with Ukrainian ethnic Russians, you’d think they’d do more. Perhaps they see plainly that this insurgency isn’t home grown at all - just a Russian intelligence/military creation to keep the Ukraine destabilized.

    I wonder if our Putinista crowd is actively rooting for a Russian invasion of Eastern Ukraine?

  • Worse may yet lie ahead [Israel and Hamas]

    07/22/2014 4:45:14 PM PDT · 19 of 38
    Longbow1969 to alloysteel
    Until the Hamas irregulars have received enough punishment so they actually feel the effects, there shall be no cease-fire.

    The problem for Hamas is that they simply weren't and still aren't very popular. They have been in a position of weakness due to a total lack of support due to their inability to govern. Gazans have been so disillusioned with Hamas that they were forced to accept a very junior role in a unity government with the PA they despise.

    So sure, they will get an immediate bump in public opinion for fighting the common enemy, but once that passes they will have not only lost long term public support without some major Israeli concessions, they will also have been seriously degraded and weaker than ever.

    Combine this with the fact that their neighbor Egypt is no longer friendly to them (infact the new Egyptian government hates Hamas) which prevents their easy resupply and from their point of view it is now or never, do or die. This attitude basically suits Israel fine for the moment, as well as Egypt, the PA (who would like to see them further neutered), and a few others.

    Hamas, at this point, can only hope world opinion turns enough against Israel enough to force them to call off their offensive while Hamas can still fire rockets. If Hamas can and does still fire some rockets after Israel backs off, they can at least claim some kind of moral victory.

  • Why Russia buys Putin’s lies

    07/21/2014 8:20:30 PM PDT · 12 of 70
    Longbow1969 to Tailgunner Joe

    Well, we have some people right here on FR who buy Putin’s propaganda. Not surprising that many Russians do as well.

  • Benjamin Netanyahu Had to Tell John Kerry "This is Not Vietnam"

    07/21/2014 5:06:16 PM PDT · 61 of 67
    Longbow1969 to tcrlaf
    You will note how quiet Official Russia has been about the Palestinians, this time around? Other than a few statements calling for “Peace”, nothing major at all, no UN resolutions, etc...

    We fundamentally disagree on this Ukraine/Russia issue along with the downing of the Malaysian jet, but I do believe you are correct about this point (and it is a very important one with long term ramifications). As I recall Israel didn't really back the US position (at least not strongly) in the Ukraine, and Russia seems to have gone very quiet on the Gaza conflict instead of typically demanding Israel accept pretty much any cease fire on the table.

    Now I am not 100% sure about this, and it's also possible Russia is a little busy at the moment - but my sense is your assessment may be correct here. I do think Russia is trying to pick off some of our allies - at a minimum so they can break our monopoly at selling these countries weapons.

  • Russian Media on Downed Airliner: The CIA Did It

    07/21/2014 4:53:57 PM PDT · 48 of 80
    Longbow1969 to lodi90
    As you can see, our local Putinists keep good company.

    And they'll want to talk about anything but Putin's, completely irresponsibly, giving these heavy anti air weapons to a bunch of goons - that is if Russian operators themselves aren't responsible for this.

    If you listen to the Putinista's here you'd believe the Ukraine is over run with Right Sector neo-con fascists secretly backed by some NATO/banker conspiracy. It's an odd combination they are pushing. Jewish fascists? Really? And never mind that Right Sector got a whopping 2% of the vote in the most recent election.

  • Russian Media on Downed Airliner: The CIA Did It

    07/21/2014 4:28:39 PM PDT · 44 of 80
    Longbow1969 to Cvengr
    They are what they appear. Fraudulent, criminal rebellious thugs.

    There would be little to no civil strife in the Ukraine at this point if Putin wasn't busy arming the "separatists", providing them training, heavy weapons, etc. Those that say differently were probably the same people that claimed Russia didn't have its forces in Crimea. I remember Putinista's buying into that nonsense, or at least pretending they believed it. The lie became clear to all when Russia annexed it.

    This is not some home grown insurgency, it is Russian backed and financed thugs who have zero legitimacy. I am pretty sure many of the so called leaders aren't even from the Ukraine at all.

    This civilian plane was almost certainly brought down by mistake as this does not help the "separatists" or Putin. Either Putin/Russian trained "separatists" or Russian operators themselves made a careless, stupid mistake believing this was a Ukrainian transport. This weapon should never have been handed to "separatists" and Putin has blood on his hands for this one. No way around it.

  • Russia dismisses accusations Ukrainian separatists shot down Flight MH17 [it's not their fault]

    07/21/2014 1:43:16 PM PDT · 179 of 249
    Longbow1969 to caww
    Well with that kind of thinking then all the deaths and bombardment, destruction and deaths of citizens in East Ukraine is the fault of the US/EU for supplying Ukraine/Kiev with tanks, missles etc.

    I'm pretty sure we aren't sending the Ukraine tanks and missiles. I know they want lethal aid, but I do believe our feckless leader Obama chose to give the Ukraine MRE's and non lethal aid instead.

    Seems to me there’s plenty of blame to go all around for every party in this theater of war...and it is a war.

    Yes, that will be the excuse Putin uses. When your hands are all over the shootdown of a civilian airliner, the "well there is plenty of blame to go around" argument is the first fall back position.

  • Russia dismisses accusations Ukrainian separatists shot down Flight MH17 [it's not their fault]

    07/21/2014 1:15:49 PM PDT · 158 of 249
    Longbow1969 to tcrlaf
    In Ukraine, in the middle of an active area of fighting

    There is ONLY an active area of fighting because Russia is funding, training and sending weapons (some heavy) to the "separatists". What remained of the conflict would be over and this passenger jet would never have been shot down were it not for Russia's interference in the Ukraine. It appears to me that at least some of these "separatist" leaders aren't even Ukrainian at all.

    Try to live in the here and now instead of crying about the overthrow of a government months ago that you seem to still want to support. It's pretty clear that a majority of Ukrainians have long been ready to move on, they had an election, the Right Sector boogeyman you Putinista types kept flailing around about got 2% of the vote and are insignificant, the civil strife would have passed weeks/months ago were it not for Russia's interference. I remember all this Putinista excuse making from you and others when the Russian defense ministry was claiming they had no troops in the Crimea, which was not believable at the time and later became absolutely clear it was a lie.

    Here is what Russia can/should do today. Go away. Get out of the Ukraine. Stop inciting, funding, providing weapons, etc, to dubious/thuggish forces that are prolonging the fighting in, thankfully, increasingly small parts of the Ukraine.

  • Russia dismisses accusations Ukrainian separatists shot down Flight MH17 [it's not their fault]

    07/21/2014 12:54:47 PM PDT · 151 of 249
    Longbow1969 to tcrlaf
    Agencie France Press are “Putinistas”?

    France 24 is simply reporting what the Russian defense ministry says in the same way they reported what the Russian defense ministry said about it having no troops in the Crimea (a complete lie which was exposed to the entire world). Just because some mainstream media outlet reported what the Iraqi Information Minister (ie, Baghdad Bob) said during the Iraq war doesn't mean it there is any credence to it or that the propaganda makes things "interesting" as you suggest.

    Dude, every thinking person in the entire world knows Russia's fingerprints are all over this shootdown. Either Russia simply recklessly gave such weapons to a bunch of goons they fund and call "separatists", or Russian operators were on the scene and screwed up just as bad.

  • Russia dismisses accusations Ukrainian separatists shot down Flight MH17 [it's not their fault]

    07/21/2014 9:48:52 AM PDT · 77 of 249
    Longbow1969 to tcrlaf

    Ah, comrade tcrlaf is back!

    Man, the only people that believe these Russian conspiracies about what “really” happened are some assorted Putinistas, people who spend too much time on sites like InfoWars, Russians who get all their news from their nations nearly all encompassing media propaganda, and the odd collection of “truther” types who believe everything is about fiat currency and some bankster neo-con (aka Jew) conspiracy.

    There is really no question about what happened here. Russian separatists using Russian supplied weapons (and possibly Russian operators) accidentally shot down a civilian airliner. It’s a PR disaster for them so they almost certainly didn’t intend to do it, but they did just the same. In the meantime, despite what they say, they are trying to hide evidence and otherwise contaminate the crash site. Putin is indirectly responsible and has blood on his hands for this. Hopefully the US and Europe get their act together this time and sanction the hell out of Russia in retaliation. The good news is this may, just may, force Russia to reconsider it’s arming, training and financing Ukrainian separatists and get out of the Ukraine and let that country work out it’s issues and get on with life.

    If you actually believe Putin’s propaganda here, you were probably one of the folks wearing blinders when Putin was busy telling the world his forces weren’t in Crimea - which turned out to be a laughable lie.

  • Israeli soldier captured, 70 Palestinians reported dead in worst day of conflict

    07/20/2014 7:17:46 PM PDT · 22 of 23
    Longbow1969 to montag813
    Why? They focus WAY too much on captured soldiers.

    They shouldn't, but they do.

    Israel brings this on themselves. They give away so much for the return of a POW that they make their soldiers a primary target for kidnapping.

    Furthermore, by spending days warning Gazan's to leave Shejaiy they gave Hamas days to prepare IED fields, booby traps, ambush sites, murder holes, etc. Sad to say, but the Israeli military brought this bad day on themselves by trying to appease world opinion makers whom will never be on their side.

    This crop of Hamas fighters, by the Israeli military's own admission, are much better and more sophisticated fighters than they've encountered in the past. If Israel agrees to a cease fire now, they will turn what was a fairly decisive military victory into a moral and long term strategic defeat.

  • Russians Oblivious To Growing Anger Over MH17

    07/20/2014 5:33:44 PM PDT · 99 of 102
    Longbow1969 to justa-hairyape
    We will talk about this again when Obama is removed from office. Until then you have no clue and no chance.

    At this point you are just posting gibberish.

  • Russians Oblivious To Growing Anger Over MH17

    07/20/2014 3:38:42 PM PDT · 90 of 102
    Longbow1969 to ansel12
    There are a few that just fall all over themselves when they meet a strong man type, almost like a cult reaction

    Yup, it seems so. I can maybe see why that might be popular in Russia since they have no real history of democratic governance and have gravitated to the "strong man" type in the past. Perhaps it is all they really know and feels reassuring to them - a macho man type to restore their national pride. It is kinda amusing that Putin has this publicly strong stance against the homo agenda, yet is featured in endless photos that look like he's trying to appeal to the Village People.

    For educated American conservatives to fall for this sort of thing is just bizarre.

  • Russians Oblivious To Growing Anger Over MH17

    07/20/2014 3:26:33 PM PDT · 88 of 102
    Longbow1969 to justa-hairyape
    What you want right now is suicidal.

    What on earth are you talking about?

    What is it you think I want that is suicidal? Putin to be held responsible by the world for his part is shooting down a civilian airliner? That is not going to cause WW3, not by a long shot. But it may result in the kind of international sanctions that force Putin to stop supporting "separatists" with heavy weapons, training, intelligence, etc, who are attempting to destabilize the Ukraine (because without his boot on the Ukraine, Putin's dream of reassembling some part of the Soviet empire is impossible).

  • Russians Oblivious To Growing Anger Over MH17

    07/20/2014 2:59:33 PM PDT · 79 of 102
    Longbow1969 to BobL
    We’ll see how things play out. I think a lot of the admiration for him is based on who our leader is and how much we despise him. Put in a Ted Cruz (or Sarah) type and I suspect most of the glowing assessments would probably go away.

    That doesn't even make sense. We have a crappy leader, so till we get a good one we're supposed to admire some other countries tyrannical, crappy leader?

    I mean, what your saying is just......well, weird. It's like you desperately want to support someone that comes off as a tough guy or strong man till we get someone sufficiently tough of our own.

    So if we elected Ted Cruz suddenly you'd stop admiring Putin? Are you really thinking about the stuff you are saying here. Putin is bad news no matter who we elect, in fact, the public's opposition to him is even MORE important right now when we don't have the kind of leader that can stand up to him by him/herself.

  • Russians Oblivious To Growing Anger Over MH17

    07/20/2014 2:44:19 PM PDT · 76 of 102
    Longbow1969 to BobL
    My point is that Putin had (has) a good number of admirers here, and trying to isolate me as the only one (or one of a very small number of people) is not accurate.

    There are two kinds of people in regards to this. Those who look at specific positions and with an non biased approach can agree with something a foe actually does right. And then there are the Putinista's who, for whatever reason, have chosen to firmly align themselves with a former KGB agent who thinks the loss of the USSR was a great tragedy. The former are being intellectual honest on a case by case basis but haven't lost sight of the big picture, the latter have somehow lost all perspective and in many cases are buying into a bunch of nutty conspiracy theories.

    I am well aware there is a small contingent of Putinista's here, of which you are one. Most have just lost the plot. Perhaps the fact that their hero, Putin, is now ultimately responsible for the murder of 298 innocent passengers of a civilian airliner may change a few of their minds.

  • Russians Oblivious To Growing Anger Over MH17

    07/20/2014 2:27:14 PM PDT · 66 of 102
    Longbow1969 to BobL
    I feel like I’m on a different website than a year ago. There were 47 comments posted to the article I linked (and no, they were not my fake names), not one of them attacked Putin, and half wanted him to be running this country.

    Why the 180 here?

    Do you realize that once in awhile even, for example, a Democrat gets something right? You may get a thread of people supporting something that Democrat specifically said, but that doesn't mean folks are suddenly allied with him/her. The Democrat is still the ideologically foe even if they get 1 thing right. What's the old saying, "even a broken clock is right twice a day".

    The same thing goes for some of the more strident Islamist countries. They tend to vocally oppose the homo agenda more than anyone else, and you'll get a thread or two of people that may support that particular position - that does NOT mean conservatives are suddenly allying themselves with radical Islamists.

  • Russians Oblivious To Growing Anger Over MH17

    07/20/2014 2:12:03 PM PDT · 61 of 102
    Longbow1969 to BobL
    I don’t see a lot of people here having problems with Putin a year ago, or others trying to silence them..

    Yes BobL, Putin opposes the homosexual agenda. He gets one thing right. So does Iran. Do you support them too? So do most Islamic countries and terrorist groups, do you also support them?

    In any case, like I say, I’m done, I’ve made my points.

    You've made nonsensical points in support of Putin, a former KGB agent, who considers the implosion of communist USSR the greatest tragedy of modern history. Joseph Stalin criminalized homosexuality in the USSR, do you also have a soft spot for him because of that position?

  • Russians Oblivious To Growing Anger Over MH17

    07/20/2014 1:48:05 PM PDT · 57 of 102
    Longbow1969 to ansel12
    Russia is a true paper tiger when faced with the military might of the United States and the free world.

    Correct. This is the truth that Putin attempts to paper over with propaganda that people like BobL seem to believe.

  • Russians Oblivious To Growing Anger Over MH17

    07/20/2014 1:41:42 PM PDT · 55 of 102
    Longbow1969 to BobL
    Actually their social issues are getting much better under Putin, which is one of reasons he’s so popular there.

    Just to be very clear, you are supporting Putin, a former KGB agent, who thinks the single greatest disaster of modern history is the collapse of the communist USSR. A USSR that is not only responsible for the death and enslavement of millions of people, but that conservative hero's like Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher expended enormous treasure and blood to destroy.

    This is your hero, the guy your are supporting? Honestly, it is hard for me to comprehend what you're even doing on a conservative site with views like this.

    I see comrade tcrlaf was finally banned, are you sure you wouldn't be happier posting on RT or perhaps communist Cuba's Granma?

  • Russians Oblivious To Growing Anger Over MH17

    07/20/2014 1:16:51 PM PDT · 43 of 102
    Longbow1969 to BobL
    They’ll be fine. They’ll wait out the little temper tantrum from the West and things will return to normal.

    Little temper tantrum? Good grief BobL, is their no depths you will sink to in your support of Putin?

    You underestimate how much the media loves these kinds of stories, heck they just barely stopped endless reporting on the other missing Malaysian jet. This is not going to be some "temper tantrum". Putin has blood all over his hands for this and the pressure will continue ratcheting up to finally get Europeans to agree to actual serious sanctions against Putin's Russia.

    Russia is basically self-sufficient in resources and can blow any country (including ours) off the map if they need to.

    Do you even know what your talking about here? Russia is largely a basketcase with declining populations, rampant alcoholism, sky high abortion rates, etc. They are not self sufficient and if real sanctions are imposed they'd do serious damage to Putin's economy.

    As to their military prowess. Russia has lots of nukes, so sure, they could blow up any country just like we can - but that isn't a serious option no matter what the consequences of their role in killing 298 innocent people on a civilian airliner. There is going to be hell to pay for this in the end that will amount to much more than a "temper tantrum". Russian media and people like yourself may not realize the ground will shift around your hero's feet, but it will happen.

  • Russian Media Blame Ukraine For Plane Disaster

    07/19/2014 10:33:31 PM PDT · 57 of 57
    Longbow1969 to free_life

    Lol, this guy tclaf was obviously a Putin shill. He was making quite a fool of himself, and I have to wonder if this is really the best the Putinista’s can do. The true believers are more quiet this point, but most of the cult of Putin types have been laying low now that it is clear they are responsible for killing 298 innocent civilians on a commercial jet liner.

  • Russian Media Blame Ukraine For Plane Disaster

    07/19/2014 11:14:29 AM PDT · 46 of 57
    Longbow1969 to tcrlaf
    Well before that, there would be no civil war if the elected government hadn’t fallen in a violent coup

    "Well before that" is OVER. We are talking about the here and now you and seem to want to avoid discussing that. There would be NO "civil war" in Ukraine NOW if the nation of Russia under the leadership of Putin were not actively supporting, with weapons and training, these separatists. Period. Heck, some of the leaders of these "separatists" probably aren't even from the Ukraine at all. It looks pretty clear many of them are Russian military/intelligence personnel from Russia itself.

    The Russian backed separatists you seem to support just shot down and killed 298 innocent civilians in a commercial airliner. Stop living in the past. This happened NOW. This happened because Putin's Russia has been giving, and possibly helping operate, sophisticated anti-air weapons to these separatists.

    Whatever happened in the past, however angry you are about it, there is no doubt the "civil war" would long be over if Russia would stay out of the Ukraine and let them move forward.

  • Russian Media Blame Ukraine For Plane Disaster

    07/19/2014 10:46:14 AM PDT · 42 of 57
    Longbow1969 to tcrlaf
    This civil war is BECAUSE of that coup

    There would be NO "civil war" were Russia not supporting the separatists with weapons and training. And even with that support the separatists have been largely pushed to the Russian border where the core of them remain with the most Russian backing. The anti-air and heavy weapons Putin is providing is the very thing that prevents this "civil war" from ending - and what led to the shooting down of this civilian airliner.

    And weren't you one of the people complaining endlessly about Right Sector fascists? This group got next to nothing in terms of votes in the last election. They are minor, insignificant force that got a whopping 2% of the vote.

  • Russian Media Blame Ukraine For Plane Disaster

    07/19/2014 10:36:25 AM PDT · 38 of 57
    Longbow1969 to tcrlaf
    ” don’t get you Putinista’s? Is it the gay thing? Is that it”

    What is with the insults? Can’t defend your position without Jr. High-level name calling? Since when was that allowed on FR?

    What insult? That is the real reason why some people use to justify supporting Putin. Because Putin opposes the homosexual agenda he has won some limited support in traditional/social conservative quarters. My point was simply because he gets one thing right, doesn't make him worthy of support. Remember that Iran and most Islamic countries also actively oppose the homosexual agenda, that does not make them countries we should support either.

  • Russian Media Blame Ukraine For Plane Disaster

    07/19/2014 10:32:04 AM PDT · 33 of 57
    Longbow1969 to rwoodward
    Sorry but the fact still remains that Russia has nothing to gain and everything to lose for taking down a civilian airliner. Until somebody can come with a clear motive for why Putin would blast a civilian airliner out if the sky, I am going to ignore all the talking heads for now.

    Few people are really suggesting they knowingly shot down the civilian airliner. What almost certainly happened is Russian supported separatists or Russia supported separatists with direct Russian operational support shot down the plane by mistake. Several Ukrainian planes including transports had been shot down by Russian supported forces within just days of this, it is almost certain they thought they were shooting down another Ukrainian military transport plane and simply used terrible targeting judgment.

    BTW, Putin just signed an agreement with 3 other countries the other day to start a new reserve currency. That is usually grounds for either politcal or physical assassination.

    This is crazy conspiracy stuff. There is no threat to the US or West because Russia is attempting to create some new reserve currency. No one cares and despite endless claims, the US dollar will continue being the worlds reserve currency. It sounds like you may be a regular on InfoWars, RT or believing too much of what you read on ZeroHedge (which while interesting tends to be the ultimate bear doom and gloomer financial page out there).

  • Russian Media Blame Ukraine For Plane Disaster

    07/19/2014 10:19:57 AM PDT · 28 of 57
    Longbow1969 to BobL
    You have a point regarding Iran, but we’re not any better there, refusing to take action and tying Israel’s hands. So, yes, he could be better.

    Well Israel, who has the most to lose here, begs to differ. The US is at least making some attempts to slow or stop Iran's nuclear development effort, Russia is actively supporting it. Big difference. Israel may not think the US is doing near enough, but they certainly prefer our position over the Putin one since he is actively helping them.

    As far as the other despots go, I don’t see much different in our hemisphere than when Bush was president...same dictators...no effort to get rid of them.

    Despots come and go, yes. There is a huge difference between doing too little and actively supporting them. The US does too little these days for sure, Russia actively assists them. It is hard for me to believe you can't see the difference.

    The airliner - that system has been deployed since 1979. Ukraine DEFINITELY had it when the Soviet Union broke up. It’s VERY POSSIBLE that the rebels (who are former soldiers) had their own when they broke away. I’m just not jumping to conclusions yet on this one.

    Are you spending your time reading RT or something? Come on man, denying that Russian supported thugs (ie, separatists), at a very minimum, shot this civilian airliner down is to be wearing multiple sets of blinders. It isn't hard to see where this shot came from and it was pretty obviously terrorist controlled territory. These are Russia's allies, whom they support with heavy weapons and training. The man ultimately responsible is Putin as he is determined to continue destabilizing a country that wants to look to the West and get OUT of Russia's orbit (and before you shout "fascists!", Right Sector only got 2% of the vote in Ukraine - they are not a significant bloc). Or are you one of these people that believed Putin when he said his forces weren't in Crimea? Seriously now, no one believed that and the end result proved he was lying all along.

    By the way, the Middle East would be a MUCH BETTER place right now for Christians, if Putin’s, rather than Hillary’s, policies had been followed.

    Yes, because a nuclear Iran - and the Islamic arms race that would follow - would be great for Christians. Putin is not some defender of Christianity in the Middle East, despite what he and his propaganda organs may claim from time to time. Putin supports whoever will buy weapons from him and support Russian foreign policy (which is mostly about opposing the US/West and creating a "multipolar" world). That is why they will support both a religious fanatic state like Iran AND a more secular run government like Assad's (not to mention Russia's only foreign navy base is in Syria).

  • Russian Media Blame Ukraine For Plane Disaster

    07/19/2014 9:51:37 AM PDT · 20 of 57
    Longbow1969 to BobL
    and haven’t seen any threats from him either.

    Sure, if you don't count Putin's support of pretty much every world enemy we have - whom he either funds, protects at the UN, etc.

    Putin's Russia is a pretty big fan and supporter of socialist Venezuela, communist Cuba, Islamist Iran's effort to become a nuclear state, and the list just goes on and on.

    Also he just had a hand in shooting down a civilian airliner by at minimum providing the heavy anti-air weapons and/or training necessary to accomplish this. And before you defend him with cries of "no proof", this follows Putin's seizing the Crimea from the Ukraine while all the way claiming its forces weren't in that territory at all (which was a laughable lie).

    I don't get you Putinista's? Is it the gay thing? Is that it? He opposes the homosexual agenda and you think that is enough to warrant your support? You know who else opposes the homosexual agenda? Countries like Iran and pretty much every other backward Islamist hellhole from Africa through the Middle East. So they get one thing right, even the worst countries in the world do a few things that a person could point to and say "well, at least that is right", or "at least that works".

    You are lending support to Putin, a guy who thinks the greatest tragedy of modern times it he collapse of the communist Soviet Union. I wonder what Reagan would think of your support of Putin, considering all the blood and treasure he spent destroying the very thing Putin bemoans was lost.

  • Experts: America's gold is gone

    07/18/2014 7:23:04 PM PDT · 35 of 92
    Longbow1969 to Zeneta
    I contend that Gold has very little economic value. It is certainly not a measure of economic growth, activity or anything other than some arbitrary measure of wealth.

    Probably so. Gold would probably return to being worth backing currency with if most of civilization collapsed and we had to start all over. In such a situation the full faith and credit of pretty much no nation would be worth much, so currency would need to be backed up by something other than promises again.

    But in this day in age, the goldbugs just don't get that we are not ever going to go back to the gold standard short of a total collapse, prepper wonderland type situation.

    If you believed these goldbugs (many of whom are conspiracy theorists) then gold rich countries like South Africa, China and Australia should be mining like crazy because he who has the most gold wins the game. Unfortunately, the global economy simply doesn't work that way. Not at all.

    Some gold is a good commodity to have in one's portfolio, but I think most treat it as a short term bet against paper currencies.

  • Experts: America's gold is gone

    07/18/2014 6:59:29 PM PDT · 18 of 92
    Longbow1969 to Ken522
    Sounds reasonable - but look at the price of gold: If what he says was true, the price of gold would skyrocket to $3000 almost immediately and it would keep going up. I also remember the esteemed Dr. Paul C. Roberts bubbling forth about what a great leader obozo would be if he were elected (way back in 2008) .. I would be skeptical of what Roberts says

    As well one should be because he's been off his rocker for awhile now. Roberts is a truther who blames the United States and Israel for virtually all the worlds "aggression" for the past 70 years. He's also a regular on RT, InfoWars, PressTV, Counterpunch, and all the other kook sites.

    As to the gold stuff, the idea that he who has the most gold wins is silly. First, he has no idea if we have that gold or not. Second, goldbugs who sit around tracking which country is buying and which are selling are typically kind of crazy paulbot types. These are the people who are convinced fiat currency is a neo-con (aka Jew) conspiracy and most of our conflicts are about preventing countries from going to the gold standard.

    Because Roberts served in the Reagan administration early on he has something on his resume the left and conspiracy types can point to and claim he's legit. Perhaps at one time he was, but it's clear Paul Craig Roberts has been off his meds for a very long time now.

  • Russia Today reporter resigns in protest at MH17 coverage

    07/18/2014 4:26:47 PM PDT · 4 of 5
    Longbow1969 to pallis

    This is like the 3rd reporter that resigned from RT recently because it’s nothing but Putin/Russian propaganda. Yet I still see our resident Putinista’s posting RT stuff here as if were real news.

  • Ukrainian rebel leader gives bizarre account of plane crash, suggesting victims dead for days

    07/18/2014 1:59:22 PM PDT · 2 of 16
    Longbow1969 to elhombrelibre
    Putin dupes will be repeating this balderdash soon.

    I think most are over at paulbot forums and InfoWars till this blows over.

  • Ukrainian rebel leader gives bizarre account of plane crash, suggesting victims dead for days

    07/18/2014 1:16:24 PM PDT · 40 of 45
    Longbow1969 to free from tyranny
    Powerful imagination you have Troll! We will never know the truth on what happened but wouldn't it be interesting to know if all of the families of the those who perished on that flight will be told the same thing. Sorry here are the remains of your loved one(s). They were only id’d with dna...cause the body was so badly mangled. BTW..I am no Russian lover. as far as I am concerned the US gov’t and the Russkies have a deal to tank the global banking system and start over, They have a deal until the double dealing starts. Both are guilty as sin!!!! Love your gov’t much....troll?

    Are you nuts? What conspiracy are you pushing here? I don't quite get what loopy thing you are babbling about regarding the families of those who died on the plane. Many of the bodies are visible identifiable, so whatever crazy nonsense you are spewing is just silly dribble.

    You sound like a paulbot truther who has spent too long listening to Alex Jones. Do yourself a favor, turn off InfoWars and back away from the computer.

  • Ukrainian rebel leader gives bizarre account of plane crash, suggesting victims dead for days

    07/18/2014 11:53:36 AM PDT · 27 of 45
    Longbow1969 to Tailgunner Joe

    Oh I am sure some Putinista’s, the nuts over at InfoWars and a few assorted Paulbots will run with this. It’s just crazy enough for them to believe it - ofcourse the NATO neo-con banksters trying to prop up fiat currency and depress the price of gold will be the likely culprits.

  • Bodies rained down on Ukraine village after plane disaster

    07/18/2014 8:17:28 AM PDT · 59 of 99
    Longbow1969 to Romulus
    There are lots of good reasons to like Putin

    What are these good reasons to like Putin?

    He's basically retarded any chance that any sort of real representative, democratically minded government can take hold in Russia. He is acting, at best, as a strategic adversary towards us throughout much of the world. He seems to believe it was a great tragedy that the USSR collapsed, which doesn't bode well for what he thinks Russia ought to look like in the future - and whether it should attempt to re-assemble it's empire of the unwilling. Putin is investing lots of money to make a larger fraction of his military 1st world quality, which rightly terrifies the USSR's former occupied satellite states such as Poland, Latvia, etc. He uses his veto (along with China) to block us on the UN Security Council at every turn - whether we are dealing with some North Korea provocation or just about anything else.

    I'm just not seeing all that many good reasons to like Putin. I think he's smart, we have been able to cooperate with him on more things than many people may think, he seems to be positioning himself as some kind of defender of traditionalist values (though it's hard to tell whether this is anything more than an act), etc.

    Overall, Putin is probably going to wind up having been a net negative for the Russian people and the rest of the world.

    You can be sure today Putin is studying the US response to the Iran Air shootdown by USS Vincennes.

    Well, I guess the reminder that we've done it too is fair game. Actually, to be really fair, Russia is likely once removed from this Malaysian shoot-down and we weren't with the Iranian Airbus. Additionally, the hyperbole of this being a terrorist attack is silly, nobody meant to shoot this down as it severely damages the separatists and Putin's cause. Still, they did it and ultimately the blame does rest with Putin for choosing to fund and arm this bunch of goons as you correctly put it.

  • Ukrainian Buk battery radar was operational when Malaysian plane downed - Moscow

    07/18/2014 7:30:36 AM PDT · 12 of 33
    Longbow1969 to 1rudeboy
    RT throwing a bone to the Paultards.

    Yup, the loons are eating this up on ZeroHedge. Nevermind another RT reporter resigned in protest this morning after explaining that RT was nothing but Russian propaganda and the official policy on all things is "blame Ukraine".

  • Bodies rained down on Ukraine village after plane disaster

    07/18/2014 7:14:41 AM PDT · 12 of 99
    Longbow1969 to Oldeconomybuyer

    In before Putinista’s blame NATO/Jew conspiracy to protect fiat currency and undermine gold.

    Also, only a matter of time before the same group tries to blame Right Sector - whom only got 2% of the vote in the most recent Ukrainian elections.

    These Putinista types are probably still smarting over losing another RT reporter who resigned this morning after explaining that RT is nothing but Russian propaganda who’s policy is to always “blame Ukraine”.

  • Putin Says Ukraine 'Bears Responsibility' for Malaysia Flight Jet Crash

    07/17/2014 8:45:55 PM PDT · 16 of 82
    Longbow1969 to 1rudeboy

    Expect Putinista’s to show up (though they’ve been quiet lately) blaming Right Sector for this everything - even though Right Sector got a whopping 2% in the latest elections.

  • (Australian) Carbon tax repeal to clear the Senate (it's done... finally)

    07/16/2014 7:18:41 PM PDT · 8 of 13
    Longbow1969 to naturalman1975
    Yes, over two years left of the three year term.

    I don't know the situation in Australia too well. I remember the days when Howard won like 4 times in a row, much to the chagrin of my lefty Australian friends over in Thailand.

    Right leaning governments are usually vehemently opposed by the media and entertainment establishments, so often they get off to a rocky start. I think the same is true throughout most of the West. If the Abbot government has 2 years left before having to call another election, it seems like he has time to recover. One thing is for sure, if people feel the economy is improving it tends to be a big boost for the incumbent. Perhaps dumping the carbon tax will help in this regard.

  • Russia's Centuries-Long Modernization Project Has Come to an End

    07/16/2014 7:12:37 PM PDT · 2 of 4
    Longbow1969 to wetphoenix

    Interesting article, thanks for posting.

  • (Australian) Carbon tax repeal to clear the Senate (it's done... finally)

    07/16/2014 7:05:02 PM PDT · 4 of 13
    Longbow1969 to naturalman1975
    Thanks for the run down. At least they got rid of the carbon tax.

    and the way opinion polls are going, if the Prime Minister decided to go back to the people, there's a good chance, the socialists would get back in.

    Yeah, I've read the Abbot government isn't popular right now. Hopefully over time this will turn this around. I assume he has a fair amount of space before he has to call for the next election?

  • Israel Accepts UN Request for Six-Hour 'Humanitarian Ceasefire'

    07/16/2014 12:42:35 PM PDT · 13 of 17
    Longbow1969 to Safetgiver
    Take the six hours and invade them 60 miles.

    LOL, it's Gaza - there isn't 60 miles to go. The Israeli tanks would be out in the ocean. Gaza is only 25 miles long and about 5 or 6 miles wide. It's really a tiny strip of land and it contains around 1.5 million people. When you realize how densely populated it is you understand why Israel is loath to launch a full scale, boots on the ground, invasion.

  • Löfven: Israel Has the Right to Defend Itself

    07/15/2014 6:32:30 PM PDT · 6 of 14
    Longbow1969 to West Texas Chuck
    Personally, if the Jews decided to eliminate all the Arabs inside their borders, men-women-chilluns-granny, I would shed not a tear. I’d probably toast them for being expedient.

    There are approximately 1.5 million Arab Israeli's. You are supportive of a methodical genocide to kill them all? Do you realize that if Israel did that it would not make the Jewish state stronger, it would destroy it.

    Comments like this are not helpful to the Israeli cause.

  • Digging in, Hamas believes time is on its side

    07/15/2014 6:04:57 PM PDT · 17 of 20
    Longbow1969 to rbg81
    I agree things are often not what they seem—especially in the Middle East.

    Indeed. As you say, especially in the Middle East. Israel is in a precarious position, but so are many of the governments and movements there. Israel also works, behind the scenes, with many of the regional governments far more than people realize. The new government in Egypt that overthrew the Obama supported Muslim Brotherhood has been a godsend. It is very likely that Egypt and Israel are coordinating very closely at this moment since they both share the goal of weakening Hamas. Jordan's very survival is at stake and they have increased cooperation with the US and quietly Israel too. The Gulf states are duplicitous in the extreme, but probably work with Israel in efforts to slow the Iranian nuclear program.

    Many people don't realize that the roughly 500 million dollars a year we send to prop up the Palestinian Authority is something Israel doesn't want to see cut off. That's why it surprised many when AIPAC opposed Rand Paul's effort to end that support (even after Hamas was brought in as a junior partner in the unity government). That US Aid effectively keeps the Palestinian governed areas from falling apart, trains their police, etc. Why is that good for Israel? Because Israel doesn't want a power vacuum in either Gaza or the West Bank. And they don't want to pay for that themselves. The devil they know may well be better than the one that follows. Further, when we bankroll the PA, their corrupt government relies on us for money to fund a cushy life for their leaders.

    Again, nothing is as it seems in that region of the world.