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  • SSPX Bishop Fellay on Rosary Crusade

    05/11/2010 1:08:54 PM PDT · 4 of 5
    Mershon to Pyro7480

    for your pinging others if deemed worthy

  • SSPX Bishop Fellay on Rosary Crusade

    05/11/2010 12:21:36 PM PDT · 1 of 5
    Mershon
  • Bishop Fellay of SSPX: Curial Cardinals attribute Media Outbursts to "The Devil"

    02/19/2009 12:39:00 PM PST · 1 of 5
    Mershon
  • SSPX Bishop Fellay: Doctrinal talks to begin shortly

    02/19/2009 7:01:11 AM PST · 3 of 4
    Mershon to marshmallow

    ping

  • SSPX Bishop Fellay: Doctrinal talks to begin shortly

    02/19/2009 6:17:58 AM PST · 2 of 4
    Mershon to Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; NYer; Salvation; american colleen; Desdemona; StAthanasiustheGreat; ..

    ping

  • SSPX Bishop Fellay: Doctrinal talks to begin shortly

    02/19/2009 6:14:52 AM PST · 1 of 4
    Mershon
  • A Bad Year for the Neocons (Catholics) Who is More Catholic than the Pope?

    02/17/2009 11:35:49 AM PST · 19 of 28
    Mershon to nickcarraway

    ping

  • A Bad Year for the Neocons (Catholics) Who is More Catholic than the Pope?

    02/17/2009 7:07:58 AM PST · 3 of 28
    Mershon to Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; NYer; Salvation; american colleen; Desdemona; StAthanasiustheGreat; ..

    PING!

  • A Bad Year for the Neocons (Catholics) Who is More Catholic than the Pope?

    02/17/2009 7:00:23 AM PST · 1 of 28
    Mershon
  • Pro-life Christians arrested for handing out pro-life literature outside Baltimore's Basilica

    09/19/2008 11:19:57 AM PDT · 4 of 25
    Mershon to Jack Black

    Randall Terry is Catholic. Comment without reading?

    Thanks for your opinion. Voting for pro-life candidates is a natural law and moral issue. It is not political.

    Thanks for your opinion.

  • Pro-life Christians arrested for handing out pro-life literature outside Baltimore's Basilica

    09/19/2008 11:00:29 AM PDT · 1 of 25
    Mershon
  • SSPX in Schism? You can believe Fr. Newman or the Church!

    08/09/2007 6:04:57 AM PDT · 39 of 42
    Mershon to steadfastconservative

    500 priests serving Catholic faithful won’t “go away” any time soon.

    The theological formation of any Novus Ordo seminary, including the ones in Rome, pales in comparison to the semainary education and spiritual formation of the FSSP, the Institute of Christ the King, the Institute of Good Shepherd, and yes, the Society of St. Pius X.

    Maybe those of you predicting the demise of the SSPX haven’t been following this close enough. The SSPX requested that the Pope free the Traditional Latin Mass for the entire Church. This was one of their requests—for the good of the entire Church.

    The fact that some younger diocesan priests are going to be celebrating the Traditional Mass is a good thing. Who do you think is going to train them?

    Angelus Press sold 1,100 of their 1962 missals last month alone. They had requests from 250 priests for their Latin Mass training DVD. They have been training priests in offering the TLM for months now—diocesan priests who come to them.

    Nope. The SSPX “going away” is a pipe dream. Thankfully, Pope Benedict is intent in solving the canonical difficulties and then you guys can complain about them being in “full communion”.

  • SSPX in Schism? You can believe Fr. Newman or the Church!

    08/07/2007 9:07:29 AM PDT · 11 of 42
    Mershon to Tax-chick

    I guess it depends if your teenagers’ work can be published regularly in established media outlets—both online and print.

    By the way, Marsh, the Pope freed the Mass. I guess you’ll have to change your tune now. It will will really be interesting when the SSPX excommunications are lifted.

    You and Black Elk and other might have kiniption fits. At the most, you won’t have much to write about anymore...

  • SSPX in Schism? You can believe Fr. Newman or the Church!

    08/07/2007 8:14:24 AM PDT · 5 of 42
    Mershon to Tax-chick

    Do vanity posts normally take 10 hours to research and include copiuous footnotes?

    Just askin’...

  • SSPX in Schism? You can believe Fr. Newman or the Church!

    08/07/2007 7:08:19 AM PDT · 2 of 42
    Mershon to Pyro7480

    Please ping to those who might be interested.

  • SSPX in Schism? You can believe Fr. Newman or the Church!

    08/07/2007 6:42:39 AM PDT · 1 of 1
    Mershon
  • SSPX in Schism? You can believe Fr. Newman or the Church!

    08/07/2007 6:33:33 AM PDT · 1 of 42
    Mershon
  • Ave Maria University: Chaos Erupts after Fessio Firing Traditionalist Catholics Need Not Apply

    04/05/2007 1:25:05 PM PDT · 29 of 30
    Mershon to davidwendell

    People who love Latin more than the Church are trying to make this a Charismatic vs. Traditional battle, which it is not.

    LOL!!!!!! Quite funny. I guess this a caricature. I merely reported what was told me.

    More than a dozen other in depth interviews will get into more details, however, Traditionalist students are NOT welcome at AMU unless they conform to Nick Healy’s warped liturgical version of Catholicism.

    Whatever you do, use ad hominem attacks and don’t deal with the content. Much easier to do, I understand.

  • Ave Maria University: Chaos Erupts after Fessio Firing Traditionalist Catholics Need Not Apply

    04/05/2007 1:22:43 PM PDT · 28 of 30
    Mershon to rjp2005

    The USCCB has absolutely no authority whatsoever for Catholics.

    I follow my bishop, the Holy See and the Tradition of the Church, including all the General Councils, to the mind of the Church.

    Frankly, I could care less what the USCCCCCCCCCCB says about anything.

  • Ave Maria University: Chaos Erupts after Fessio Firing Traditionalist Catholics Need Not Apply

    04/05/2007 6:42:23 AM PDT · 25 of 30
    Mershon to rjp2005

    Condemned by Councils and St. Thomas Aquinas, doctor of the Church.

    We have this thing called Holy Thursday, the washing of the feet and the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

    I am not Jewish and therefore would refuse to participate in Jewish religious rituals and customs.

    Catholics have enough of their own to use that emphasize the sacrifice of the Cross.

    Again, General Councils and St. Thomas have both authoritatively condemned such practices.

  • Ave Maria University: Chaos Erupts after Fessio Firing Traditionalist Catholics Need Not Apply

    04/04/2007 12:31:40 PM PDT · 23 of 30
    Mershon to rjp2005

    Subject: Holy Thursday Seder Meal

    Dear Ave Maria Community,
    After the Holy Thursday Mass, April 5, at 8pm, there will be a Seder Meal in the Ark of the Covenant Cafeteria. The invitation is limited to Ave Maria Students, Faculty, Staff, and their families. This Seder Meal will be a Christianized celebration of the Passover meal Christ ate throughout his life and for the last time with the apostles in the upper room. This is NOT a Communion service, nor is it meant to be. We are remembering the Jewish tradition so that we can grow closer to the Jewish Carpenter who gives his life for our salvation.

    A full meal is incorporated into the celebration in addition to the ritual foods eaten. Students on the meal plan can eat the Seder meal as their Thursday night dinner. Faculty, Staff, & Families are asked for a free-will-offering of $5 per adult and $3 per child to help defer the cost.

    Please RSVP outside Student Life in the Ark BY WEDNESDAY, APRIL 4, 2007.

    Parents: When you sign up, please include the name of your youngest child that could read the “four questions” in the Seder Meal. A copy of what he/she would be reading is below. Traditionally, this part is given to the youngest attendee.

    Any questions/comments, please see Ruth Moses or Donna Rittereiser in the Chaplain’s office. Thank you.

    The Four Questions:

    Question #1
    Why is this night different from all other nights? On all other nights, we eat either leavened or unleavened bread. Why, on this night, do we eat only unleavened bread?

    Question #2
    On all other nights we eat all kinds of herbs. Why, on this night, do we eat especially bitter herbs?

    Question #3
    On all other nights we do not dip herbs in any condiment.
    Why, on this night, do we dip them in salt water and haroses?

    Question #4
    On all other nights, we eat without special festivities.
    Why, on this night, do we hold this Passover service?”

  • Ave Maria University: Chaos Erupts after Fessio Firing Traditionalist Catholics Need Not Apply

    04/04/2007 4:23:16 AM PDT · 22 of 30
    Mershon to rjp2005

    btt

  • Ave Maria University: Chaos Erupts after Fessio Firing Traditionalist Catholics Need Not Apply

    04/03/2007 7:14:42 AM PDT · 1 of 30
    Mershon
  • Msgr. Schmitz (Instiute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest) Visits DC (Catholic Caucus)

    03/05/2007 1:14:27 PM PST · 104 of 104
    Mershon to Pyro7480
  • SSPX to send spiritual bouquet and encouragement to Pope

    11/15/2006 11:03:29 AM PST · 127 of 128
    Mershon to mockingbyrd

    Black Elk and Bornacatholic's favorite tactic is to smear the wide brush of "anti-semitism" as widely as they can. Accuse as many people of this as possible, esp. when it comes to questioning Americanist NeoCon Zionist foreign policy, and then nobody bothers to look at the facts.

    And by the way, to label all those "radical traditionalists" with the broad brush is also called "rash judgment" in Catholic moral theology. But it does usually put an effective end to the debate.

  • Dancing on the end zone premature for Tridentine Mass Catholics

    11/14/2006 6:50:30 AM PST · 15 of 15
    Mershon to Teófilo

    "If Bp. Fellay were operating within the bounds of dogma and Tradition, he would be inside the Church, not outside, setting conditions and making demands to get back in, or else."

    http://www.30giorni.it/us/articolo_stampa.asp?id=9360

    Monsignor Lefebvre did not back off…
    CASTRILLÓN HOYOS: Unfortunately Monsignor Lefebvre went ahead with the consecration and hence the situation of separation came about, even if it was not a formal schism.

    In at least two other interviews after this one, Cardinal Hoyos reiterated that the SSPX is in the body of the Church, even if not in "perfect" communion canonically. This would NOT make them outside the Church. You are in error.

    You cannot have it both ways. Either use the post-Conciliar ecclesiology or the pre-Conciliar ecclesiology. Doesn't the sacrament of baptism put one in the body of the Church, at least to the age of reason.

    Whis is it? Outside or inside? Or perfect or imperfect communion?

  • Dancing on the end zone premature for Tridentine Mass Catholics

    11/14/2006 6:44:16 AM PST · 14 of 15
    Mershon to Teófilo

    Which specific dogmas did they define?

    Lumen Gentium No. 25 is a reiteration of Vatican I on the authority of the Pope.

    Just because something is called a "dogmatic constitution," does not make the entirety of its contents dogmatic.

    Where are the dogmas? Please point them out for me.

  • Dancing on the end zone premature for Tridentine Mass Catholics

    11/10/2006 2:56:28 PM PST · 11 of 15
    Mershon to bornacatholic

    Borna said: IOW, Michael Davies aint my Pope.

    BCM said: No one ever claimed him to be. That is called a "straw man argument" Mr. tautology. By the way, the definition I gave regarding any ecumenical Council is completely and accurately theologically accurate, your obfuscation aside, Mr. Logic.

    Let's see what our current Pope and others did have to say about Mr. Michael Davies, whose name you ridicule repeatedly, along with "Venerable" as our current Pope recently called him, Archbishop Lefebvre:

    I have been profoundly touched by the news of the death of Michael Davies. I had the good fortune to meet him several times and I found him as a man of deep faith and ready to embrace suffering. Ever since the Council he put all his energy into the service of the Faith and left us important publications especially about the Sacred Liturgy. Even though he suffered from the Church in many ways in his time, he always truly remained a man of the Church. He knew that the Lord founded His Church on the rock of St Peter and that the Faith can find its fullness and maturity only in union with the successor of St Peter. Therefore we can be confident that the Lord opened wide for him the gates of heaven. We commend his soul to the Lord’s mercy.

    Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger
    (Translated from the original German)
    9 November 2004



    Dear Mr Chadwick,

    I wish to acknowledge receipt of your letter of 29 October 2004 informing me of the Solemn Requiem for the repose of the soul of Mr Michael Davies to be celebrated according to the typical edition of the Roman Missal of 1962 at Saint James’ Church ,Spanish Place, London on Saturday 20 November. I regret that my duties here in Rome prevent my attendance at that Mass. Nor is it possible for me at this time to send a representative.

    Nonetheless I am pleased to associate myself and the officials of the Pontifical Commission ‘Ecclesia Dei’ with the members of the Latin Mass Society, Una Voce International and all of those present for this solemn liturgical celebration in suffrage for the soul of His servant Michael whose attachment to the classical Roman liturgy is well known. May he know the reward of his labours. May Our Merciful Lord grant him eternal rest and consolation to his family and all those who mourn his passing. Lux aeterna luceat ei, Domine, cum sanctis tuis in aeternum quia pius es. Requiescat in pace!

    With my blessing I remain
    Sincerely yours in Christ,
    Dario Cardinal Castrillón Hoyos
    17 November 2004

    Dear Mr Chadwick,
    I thank you for your letter of 29 October and wish to offer my condolences to you and to all members of the Latin Mass Society on the death of Mr Michael Davis. He visited me two years ago and I appreciated very much his commitment to our Catholic faith.
    In spiritual union with you and others who will be at the Solemn Requiem for him on 20 November, I pray that the Lord Jesus to whom Michael was so sincerely devoted may give him eternal rest.

    Sincerely Yours in Christ,


    Francis Cardinal Arinze
    13 November 2004

  • Dancing on the end zone premature for Tridentine Mass Catholics

    11/10/2006 8:33:04 AM PST · 6 of 15
    Mershon to rrstar96; bornacatholic

    You and bornacatholic have repeatedly shown over and over again that you have no idea whatsoever about what your are speaking.

    Cardinal Ricard can wish lots of things. The Pope is resolved. The Pope does not like "lobbying" and isn't influenced by media accounts depending upon which side of the fence they are coming from.

    The shift we are about to see will be dramatic. The Pope has already shown with the FSSP, the ICR and the Institute of Good Shepherd that Vatican II is not the course from which we guide our ships. It is Vatican II "in light of Tradition." The true meaning of this has not been defined.

    I have read lots of the more recent writings from Bishop Fellay, and nowhere do I see him denying that Vatican II is a legitimate Council. What he does deny is that it was dogmatic. He also denies that the documents themselves are clearly in line with tradition. I said "clearly."

    The Holy Ghost protected the Church from promulgating de fide documents that contained heresy. That is the protection of the Holy Ghost.

    The Institute of Good Shepherd has been assigned by the Holy See that task of doing theology on Vatican II "in light of Tradition."

    Let's talk about the other 20 Councils, shall we? What do any of you know about them?

  • SSPX to send spiritual bouquet and encouragement to Pope

    10/27/2006 1:10:35 PM PDT · 123 of 128
    Mershon to mockingbyrd; BlackElk; bornacatholic; sittnick

    whispers in the loggia, huh? Weird combinations here...

    Birds of a feather, and all that...

    By the way, why don't you announce to everyone how many of your administrators will return next year to your school?

    Sometimes people cannot identify where the true problem lies...

    I renege on my earlier insinuation. Won't be looking at moving there any time soon.

    Too many Catholics and Baptists and fundies to evangelize here in the Bible Belt. Ultimately, they end up making better Catholics and better and more chartitable and robust Catholic communities anyway!!!

    Rockford is a nice place to visit, but...

  • SSPX to send spiritual bouquet and encouragement to Pope

    10/27/2006 12:57:31 PM PDT · 122 of 128
    Mershon to technochick99

    I don't know which one. But he did say it in one of his opening speeches upon becoming pope and it is also in the current Catechism.

    Regards...

  • SSPX to send spiritual bouquet and encouragement to Pope

    10/24/2006 12:28:28 PM PDT · 108 of 128
    Mershon to BlackElk

    Agreed. This is for others who have insinuated as much. You claim "adherents," which of course is right.

    Pax Christi in Regno Christi!

  • Archdiocese says sometimes ‘Catholic’ isn’t Catholic

    10/24/2006 11:33:12 AM PDT · 37 of 56
    Mershon to Kolokotronis

    It is true that a Catholic may fulfill his Sunday obligation at the Divine Liturgy of the Eastern Orthodox. Unless in danger of death, he should not receive communion, but he can strictly fulfill his Sunday obligation.

  • SSPX to send spiritual bouquet and encouragement to Pope

    10/24/2006 11:06:56 AM PDT · 106 of 128
    Mershon to BlackElk

    I have read it numerous times. I have read the one he sent me numerous times. They say one may fulfill one's Sunday obligation at an SSPX chapel. This is similar to doing the same at an Eastern Orthodox Divine Liturgy if one has a good reason or in the event of "an emergency." Some dioceses are in permanent "emergencies."

    One does not incur sin nor excommunication nor any censure for simply attending SSPX chapels out of devotion to the Traditional Latin Mass.

  • SSPX to send spiritual bouquet and encouragement to Pope

    10/24/2006 11:04:37 AM PDT · 105 of 128
    Mershon to BlackElk

    I know Rochelle well and Fr. Peck. I was married in that "gorgeous" church building, which will be gone sooner rather than later...

    As for the school in Rockford you mention. I have a couple of questions. Why has there been such a HIGH TURNOVER rate among the faculty and teachers? If it is such high quality, why does it only have 40 or so students, and has climbed beyond that for several years?

    If it is so wonderful, why do the board members continuously change the rules over and over and over again to suit their own personal preferences, and treat the teachers and administration like their hired servant boys and girls?

    And how come the vast majority of the homeschoolers who participate in the homeschool co-op (I hear this is very well organized and run) which numbers maybe 150, not want to have anything to do with the school?

    Just a couple of questions on that. I know Fr. Bovey. I also know that Musicam Sacram asked for the laity to learn how to sing their parts of the Mass and that low Mass is an exception, not the norm. Why in the world would ANYONE attend low Mass when they have the option to attend High Mass? Seems like you're missing parts of Sacrosanctum Concilium, Mediator Dei and Pius II's Musicam Sacram. What gives?

    You want to keep engaging in politics and sociology and history. I'm not qualified. I'm actually not too interested either, to tell you the truth...

    Politics is the province of the laity, however, as you very well know, this weekend, we celebrate the Feast of Christ the King. Christ should rule sovereign over not only individuals, families, states and nations as well--in actuality. He actually does, whether we recognize it or not, but our government, whatever form it takes, should reflect that. That is the true meaning of the Kingship of Christ. Other than that, I know what "conservative" policies and laws correspond more or less with Catholic doctrine and discipline, and which ones don't. So much for "conservatives," so-called. I'm really not interested in the little tiff you must have with "Euroweenies" as you call them. Is the current Pope one of them?

    Besides, Europe will become Muslim in my lifetime, so they are history anyway.

  • SSPX to send spiritual bouquet and encouragement to Pope

    10/24/2006 8:29:48 AM PDT · 97 of 128
    Mershon to bornacatholic

    Lots of people have called people lots of different things. I didn't know this has been officially proclaimed. Silly me...

    Do you have the document?

  • SSPX to send spiritual bouquet and encouragement to Pope

    10/24/2006 8:28:25 AM PDT · 96 of 128
    Mershon to bornacatholic

    *Are all dedisions, doctrines etc from Vatican Two binding upon you? Do you have a duty to accept the Council with a religious submission of will?

    Vatican II has not been incorporated into the Church "in light of Tradition" yet as Cardinal Ratzinger said. There is nothing to submit to regarding matters of Faith and morals. I accept that it was a valid ecumenical council, primarily pastoral in nature, and that history will prove that little of its decisions are binding on Catholics. Until then, I submit with a religious mind and will. But then again, what are my "theological errors" you claim to have spotted?

    Since I have not made any such proclamations, other than as a Catholic, I submit to the Credo of the Council of Trent, esp. regarding the proper interpretation of Sacred Scripture, (regarding the Jews and otherwise), I have made no other theological distinctions nor comments for you to comment upon. As usual, you are on a self made crusade and read into writings conclusions that do not follow.

    Because YOU, almighty "Bornacatholic" are the self appointed GRAND INQUISITOR...

    And no one appointed you as such. Quite amusing. What "errors" that you used to adhere to have I "made my own?" Name one.

  • SSPX to send spiritual bouquet and encouragement to Pope

    10/24/2006 8:19:48 AM PDT · 95 of 128
    Mershon to BlackElk

    I am well familiar with Bishop Doran and the diocese of Rockford and his policies with the TLM and Catholicism. It is a pearl. Just like Archbishop Burke and Bishop Bruskewitz, whom I have previously interviewed for Wanderer stories.

    Good for you and the people of Rockford. The SSPX goes to places where the laity ask them to come. This usually is because the bishop of the diocese has not been "wide and generous" with the indult. There would be little reason for the SSPX to situate itself in Rockford, Illinois.

    John Paul the Great... That is funny. I never said, by the way, that the Ecclesia Dei Commission letters "overturned" nor "contradicted" the ED letter, now did I? Nope. Certainly did not.

    My main point which you intentionally miss is that the path toward reconciliation has begun and we are getting close. This is obvious in Bishop Fellay's remarks as well as those of the Holy See. Again, Ecclesia Dei Adflicta is the primary papal document, but other than the bishops, it acknowledges the excommunications of no one else. Cardinal Hoyos has since repeatedly said that the SSPX is not a formal schism, and I'm quite certain he would not say that repeatedly in public interviews without the consent of the current Pope. He is using VAtican II ecclesiology and has said they lack a more perfect communion.

  • SSPX to send spiritual bouquet and encouragement to Pope

    10/24/2006 8:13:34 AM PDT · 92 of 128
    Mershon to BlackElk

    To date, the Church has never defined what it means to be "a formal adherent," and Msgr. Perl said that when the Ecclesia Dei Commission issues letters answering questions from laymen, while their contents of course are not infallible, they can be adhered to with moral certainty. That is good enough for me.

    Are some laymen SSPX "adherents"? I suppose if they reject the authority of the Pope and the Church and refuse to receive sacraments anywhere else, even indult or FSSP parishes and reject the validity of the Novus Ordo, per se, then they might be. But to date, again, the Church has never defined what an "adherent" is, therefore, the point is quite moot.

  • SSPX to send spiritual bouquet and encouragement to Pope

    10/24/2006 7:38:37 AM PDT · 90 of 128
    Mershon to BlackElk

    Leo XIII condemned Americanism as a heresy. It is alive and well. You want to keep referring to all these other writers and to social, political and historical issues for which I have written nothing. In fact, I have not truly revealed my true personal opinions on much in any of my writings. I have interviewed many people, including bishops and priests and have written what they have said. I am speaking of the Americanist heresy, which is alive and well with most of the NeoCons I have read and spoken with. "America is God's own ordained great nation! Hurrah!!"

    And by the way, I am quite certain that Cardinal Hoyos, Cardinal Medina and Archbishop Ranjith are all taking specific orders and messages from the current Pope himself. You might not like it, but I am quite certain that is what is happening.

    Why you want to posit this as them "disobeying" Pope John Paul II, I am not certain.

    And by the way, I didn't know he had been named "Great" yet. I must have missed that news.

    What I am attempting to do is to pick the pieces of the remnant of Catholic culture that is available to me, be open to life, love my wife and children, and provide them with an education and formation that is not available in the United States today that puts the Faith first. That is what I am attempting to do--as well as show the Pope's plan for restoration of the liturgy and bringing estranged traditionalists into the heart of the Church like has already happened in Campos and in Bordeaux, France, most recently.

    Perhaps if my family eventually moves to Rockford, we will meet one day...

    Perhaps...

    BTW, from Rochelle, Illinois...

  • SSPX to send spiritual bouquet and encouragement to Pope

    10/24/2006 7:24:16 AM PDT · 89 of 128
    Mershon to bornacatholic

    For the Jews, it is not a matter of Faith and Morals in either case. And you are not my trial judge, so why do you care? You are no theologian, just a hack who has lots of quotes you post, as if that makes an argument.

    I side with the Fathers of Church's interpretation of Sacred Scripture just like the Credo of the Council of Trent calls for.

    What level of authority do you believe Nostra Aetate to be? Is every since of the same theological level of authority?

  • SSPX to send spiritual bouquet and encouragement to Pope

    10/24/2006 7:20:37 AM PDT · 88 of 128
    Mershon to BlackElk

    Were the SSPX laity who "adhere" to the SSPX not declared schismatic and excommunicated by John Paul the Great in Ecclesia Dei Afflicta? I was not aware that John Paul the Great distinguished between clerical and lay adherents to the schism. Have you a source for that? [Not a bureaucrat's opinion but a papal opinion of John Paul the Great or of Benedict XVI].

    No they are not. All you have to do is go to the www.unavoce.org website and browse the documents section. The Ecclesia Dei Commission has written numerous letters on this topic, one of which I have at home.

    If someone publicly refuses to accept the authority of the Church and renounces Catholicism, as a laymen, they he is excommunicated. There was a recent posting on the Sacra Music blog that had a more updated letter also.

  • SSPX to send spiritual bouquet and encouragement to Pope

    10/23/2006 3:24:04 PM PDT · 71 of 128
    Mershon to bornacatholic

    "However, in what does that curse consist. Surely it cannot be that there is a collective guilt of the Jewish race for the sin of deicide. For only those individuals are responsible for the sin who knowingly and willingly brought it about. Jews of today are manifestly not responsible for that sin. The curse is of a different nature, and corresponds to the greatness of the vocation of the Jewish people as a preparation for the Messias, to the superiority of their election, which makes them first in the order of grace."

    From the post you gave. Nothing can be interpreted here as being "heretical." In fact, the Credo of the Council of Trent says we must interpret Sacred Scripture ONLY in full accord with the Fathers of the Church. I suggest you read what they said about the responsibility of the Jews in Christ's crucifixion.

    I am no theologian. You made no theological argument. You posted something as saying something you have mistakenly attributed falsely.

    If there is something theologically wrong with it, prove it. The burden of proof is on you.

    It appears to me, in my cursory reading, to be more or less in accord with Tradition, to which we are all bound. Don't make the Vatican II documents say more than they do.

  • SSPX to send spiritual bouquet and encouragement to Pope

    10/23/2006 2:26:46 PM PDT · 68 of 128
    Mershon to BlackElk

    Thanks for your opinion. Nice blending of personal preferences, history and politics with your own particular worldview.

    You and others are stuck in 1988. At no time have I ever defended deliberately disobeying the Pope and ordaining bishops against his express will.

    However, since Cardinal Castrillon Hoyos, Cardinal Medina Estevez, and more recently, Archbishop Ranjith all seem to disagree with your assessment of things traditional and SSPX, I defer to understanding their recent corrections that "the SSPX is NOT a formal schism."

    Of course, there interviews are not official Church discipline nor policy, and for that, I respectfully await some official action of Pope Benedict XVI, gloriously reigning.

    The fact that many of the Americanist variety do not like Sobran (who is phenomenal in my opinion!) and Buchanan and yet praise the likes of Richard John Neuhaus and others, reveals more than many of us care to know.

    Throwing the "anti-Semitic" label out there and seeing how many people it slanders is not very effective for those who would prefer people deal with issues.

    Of course, the SSPX story I penned has nothing whatsoever to do with the issues that many of you here enjoy ranting about. You are all so much older and wiser than I am (obviously, our world views are different), but suffice to say that the generation before mine did not "hand on the Faith of our Fathers" in tact to us, as you received it from your Fathers; neither did you do much to stop the disintegration of the Church militant and the transformation of it into the "pilgrim Church"--or perhaps the Gypsy Church or the Church of the warm fuzzy pet doggie.

  • SSPX to send spiritual bouquet and encouragement to Pope

    10/23/2006 12:54:20 PM PDT · 48 of 128
    Mershon to BlackElk

    "Aren't those who are excommunicated unable to obtain spiritual benefits for others???? At least so long as they are excommunicated?"

    No laymen who attend SSPX chapels have been declared to be excommunicated nor schismatic, at least by the Church. The Ecclesia Dei Commission has confirmed on numerous occasions that a Catholic can fulfill his Sunday obligation at SSPX chapels. The vast majority of those 1 million rosaries are from the traditionalist laymen.

  • SSPX to send spiritual bouquet and encouragement to Pope

    10/23/2006 12:51:37 PM PDT · 47 of 128
    Mershon to bornacatholic

    "For many, no longer does Roma Locuta est, Causa finita est exist."

    Nice snappy phrases you have. However, Rome has not spoken FINALLY on this issue obviously--nor on many issues actually. Otherwise, there would NEVER be a new need to issue new documents.

    And BlackElk, regarding the "excommunicated," the "excommumications" within Ecclesia Dei Adflicta were supposed self imposed. They could be "material" and not "formal" and therefore, NOT valid. COULD be, I said. The new Code of Canon law (Ask Canon lawyers, NOT me!!!) with its emphasis on the subject rather than the object, makes it very difficult to declare anyone "excommunicated" except for the variety declared in Ecclesia Dei Adflicta.

    Yes, in 1988, they were disobedient to the request of Pope John Paul II. No, no other documents have been issued AUTHORITATIVELY yet to replace it. However, both Campos and the Institute of Good Shepherd priests were required to recant NONE of their doctrinal views in order to reconcile canonically. NONE. As far as I know, the SSPX's official position on doctrine contains no errors nor heresy. I would be interested for Bornacatholic to point me toward specific words Bishop Felly used that were allegedly "anti-Semitic" as he claims.

  • SSPX to send spiritual bouquet and encouragement to Pope

    10/23/2006 12:19:04 PM PDT · 44 of 128
    Mershon to bornacatholic

    Spoken like a true Americanist. But thanks for the compliment. To be mentioned in the same breath as these two bastions of true Catholic thought in the midst of the Americanist "Catholic" madness is quite a tribute, but undeserved.

    Apparently, you do not keep up with the the writings of Pope Benedict XVI, NOR the previous head of the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith. All of your ruminations and private exegesis and picking and choosing of select sources does not an argument make.

    The pope himself has said never before in the history of Catholicism has a rite of Mass (especially the Roman rite of 1600 years!!!) been suppressed. Never. He said the Pope is the SERVANT of Tradition, NOT its master.

    Americanists everywhere we go. Don't let your jingoism interfere with your private interpretation of Catholicism.

  • SSPX to send spiritual bouquet and encouragement to Pope

    10/23/2006 8:22:00 AM PDT · 40 of 128
    Mershon to bornacatholic

    Borna,

    I have documented evidence of at least three cardinals very close to our current Pope (Castrillon Hoyos, Medina Estevez and now REPEATEDLY, Archbishop Ranjith). The fact that you obviously do not keep up with the current goings-on of things traditional in the Church and continue to present your biased and skewed views, purportedly representing Catholicism (rather than your own personal biases) is a shame for all those here with eyes to see and hear.

    The priests and bishop of Campos, Brazil in 2001 reconciled with the Church without recanting or correction one single doctrinal view. This is the case with the FSSP and ICR as well. They view Vatican II "in light of Tradition." Same for our current Pope. See his 1988 Address to the bishops of Chile.

    Pope Paul VI, nor any other Pope, has the right to suppress a rite of Mass that was the primary rite used (Roman) for 1,600 years in the Church. If Pope Paul VI thought he had the power to do so, this Pope, and immemorial custom, are showing differently.

    You are mistaken. The SSPX will eventually reconcile once their excommunications are declared null and void, and YOU will become the Catholic dissenter.

    And I thought that true ecumenism was your big soapbox issue. Here it is in spades.

    Embrace ecumenism with traditionalists "borna"!

  • Someone is Lying: Fr. Maciel or his 100 Alleged Victims?

    08/08/2006 7:37:23 AM PDT · 6 of 46
    Mershon to Mershon

    btt

  • Someone is Lying: Fr. Maciel or his 100 Alleged Victims?

    08/08/2006 6:28:54 AM PDT · 1 of 46
    Mershon