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Posts by middie

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  • Vandy Prof: Split up the 9th Circuit, Cut Down the Wackiness

    08/01/2007 1:26:47 PM PDT · 14 of 14
    middie to Natty Bumppo@frontier.net

    I’ve been in a lengthy trial away from FL in a distant state and 100% consumed with that endeavor. To answer your question: the 9th Cir has some brillant judges and have often been out front of the remainder of the judiciary and the Supremes. Is their performance acceptable? Of course it is, that’s why we have a Supreme Court that is not last because they’re correct, but correct because they’re last. The circuit courts are there to apply their best interpretation of either the statute or common law principle at issue. It’s a collective wisdom at work and the panel —or even the en banc court— is bound to apply the precedents from the 9th and the Supreme, however wrong or erroneous they may be. I do not agree that courts, even the newly constituted Supreme Court, engages in a result oriented approach to the cases they consider. There’s no doubt that the 9th, just as the new Supreme Court, is comprised of jurists whose view of the law follows a more-or-less consistent interpretive methodology. But I will never believe that any appellate judge approaches a case and record with a predisposition; not even the equally different judges of the 5th circuit who are just as predicable at the end of the spectrum opposite from the 9th. None of them are corrupt or evil in their orientation that arises from their background and experiences in the practice or on an inferior court when dealing with the broad array of cases and legal doctrines that come before the courts. The same is true of the Supreme court at any time in its history. A study of the Supreme in several subject, the antitrust statue comes to mind, illustrates precisely what I said here. The same is true with respect to labor law, consumers and the entire cross-section of legal disciplines.

  • House Democrats Denounce Cheney's National Security Exemption

    06/22/2007 9:42:29 AM PDT · 4 of 18
    middie to gov_bean_ counter

    Cheney is a national disgrace. Respect for the law? Follow the exec. order of the pres.? Only if convenient.

  • Federalist Approach to Malpractice Abuse [THE FRED THOMPSON REPORT]

    06/21/2007 1:56:42 PM PDT · 6 of 56
    middie to griswold3
    This truism will probably not resonate here to a group predisposed to believe the myth promulgated by the insurance industry but here is the truth; like it or not. Lawyers and law suits do not have any measurable effect on the insurance premiums chosen to be charged by insurance companies. Doctors are not driven from any place because of what lawyers do. Both of those declaratory statements describe mythical devices created and disseminated to cause precisely the furor at evidence on this site.

    Insurance companies have learned the fine art of laying off their mortgage losses, poor corporate management performances and generally finding a rational sounding, but false ploy to raise rates. The crisis is a self-catalytic device that is roughly analogous to the old party game of telephone where each person whispers a given tale in the next person's ear only to have it emerge at the end of the line divorced from the beginning reality.

    It has obviously been effective and has exceeded the desired propaganda success that even Herr What's-his-Name had back in the 30s and 40s in you know where on another subject. So, knowing that there is no dissuasion of folks here who dearly love to hate the legal profession (until they need a lawyer to save their arse or protect their rights), I'll simply leave it at that if only to get the truth into the rancid air of insurance industry deceit.

  • McCain's Obsession

    06/20/2007 1:52:08 PM PDT · 11 of 32
    middie to Patrick1

    John McCain has been a friend ever since the academy. But, I could not further support him, as I have done since his first political race, because of his irrational, dogged stance on the terrible amnesty alien bill. He refuses to revisit the issue taking into account the overwhelming objections of the American people, not to the concept, but to the horrible specifics of a bill drafted in secret and thrust upon the public upon the assumption of rote acceptance and meek acquiesence. He’s normally a reasonable fellow, at least with his friends, and I hope to not lose his friendship after all these years. I doubt that I will.

  • Pedophiles would be banned from living in 90 percent of Fort Lauderdale under proposal

    06/20/2007 12:29:43 PM PDT · 7 of 15
    middie to Baladas

    Such an ordinance would carry a lot of political “atta boy” “nice try” stuff but it would without doubt be unconsitutional.

  • Universal Health Care the 'Ultimate Prize' for Liberals

    06/19/2007 1:36:22 PM PDT · 18 of 45
    middie to Brilliant

    The truth is that it is self-destructive to continue with the present dysfunctional system as driven by HMOs, healthcare insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies whose interests are not oriented to either public health or a healthy society at all levels. Their continuation as the force behind the delivery of healthcare will ultimately result in becoming a leading component in the evolution of our society losing its middle class characteristic and taking on the nature of a Third World African or Central American division of the very wealthy and everyone else.

  • Judge suspends Nifong, proceeds with request to remove him

    06/19/2007 1:22:56 PM PDT · 38 of 39
    middie to RacerF150

    The governor exacted a promise from him for the interim appointment that he wouldn’t run in the general election. He deceived the governor who could nothing about it. Revenge is much sweeter cold....Now the governor can take solace in the self-governing bar cleaning its own house and the judicial system crushing the lout and tyrant.

  • Judge suspends Nifong, proceeds with request to remove him

    06/19/2007 1:18:14 PM PDT · 37 of 39
    middie to surely_you_jest

    So long as the immune amount is definitive or, in legal terms, liquidated, its protected characteristic remains even though, money being fungible, it is intermixed with non-immune funds. Again, the homestead amount in cash rather than property. The protected fund can even be dissipated and be treated as an immune credit if new cash replaces it.

  • Judge suspends Nifong, proceeds with request to remove him

    06/19/2007 11:53:04 AM PDT · 35 of 39
    middie to surely_you_jest

    Nope. The proceeds of a fund of money that is immune from attachment at the initial point along its line of receipt is free from attachment at all points. Eg: the proceeds from the sale of a home that was homestead does not lose its protected status of being free from execution in those states, like Florida, where a person’ homestead is immune. The fund of money merely substitutes for the property.

  • Judge suspends Nifong, proceeds with request to remove him

    06/19/2007 11:49:22 AM PDT · 34 of 39
    middie to DemEater

    Hey, I thought lawyers are unremittingly hated by everyone but me and Clarity on FR. Now there seems to an ironic phrase here for some of us.

  • Judge suspends Nifong, proceeds with request to remove him

    06/19/2007 11:46:18 AM PDT · 33 of 39
    middie to mware

    There can be no crime unless and until there is a charge, either and indictment of a prosecutorial information (a discretionary charge), followed by a trial or plea to a crime and the adjudication of guilt and the affirmation of such by an appellate court. That’s is how our criminal justice system, and that of all civilized western, common law countries operates. Sure there’s evidence that a prosecutor could assemble to make out a criminal offense. But unless and unless that’s done there’s-no-there,-there.

  • Judge suspends Nifong, proceeds with request to remove him

    06/19/2007 10:01:32 AM PDT · 18 of 39
    middie to mware

    A crime is an offense that’s either statutory or prohibited under common law and recognized. Nifong’s conduct, as reprehensible as it was, is not a crime. He can be sued if he doesn’t have prosecutorial immunity, which I think he probably does but there is no crime in the facts I’ve seen and I’ve followed this closely from a professional interest. Whether one can profit from a ‘’crime’’ is not even in the picture here nor is it on the horizon.

  • Judiciary Chairman Says Court Nominee Will Not Get Out of Committee

    06/17/2007 8:24:46 PM PDT · 24 of 26
    middie to livius

    Don’t make a big thing of the fact that I’ve been around a long time in government service and the bar and have friends with whom I exchange stuff daily. From time to time someone has a bit of information to share. There’s no condidential sources and no intrigue. If there were I sure a hell wouldn’t post anything here of that nature.

  • Sellersburg man arrested for alleged spanking

    06/17/2007 9:19:07 AM PDT · 47 of 121
    middie to montag813

    In raising our boys, a good part of which I was in places far away, she chose a system whereby the miscreant had to go outside and selct a ‘’switch’’ (a southern term for a narrow tree or schrub branch) for his own disciplinary whack. I mom wasn’t satisfied, the number increased until he chose one of appropriate length and thickness to enable her to adjust the punishment to fit the crime.

  • Judiciary Chairman Says Court Nominee Will Not Get Out of Committee

    06/17/2007 9:10:57 AM PDT · 7 of 26
    middie to MinuteGal

    One serious problem with Bush’s second term district and appellate court nominations is that somehow he manages a way to put up mediocre lawyers who are academically undisdinguished, manifestly partisan and, in several instances, committed to a predisposed outcome in specific type cases. While admittedly hearsay, but from sources I would trust, comes a report that his selection committee exacts a personal promise from potential nominees that in certain types of cases yet to come before the court, the nominee will favor the administration’s perspective of the preferred outcome. Like the polititization of U.S. attornies, who are supposed to be the voice of a fair and impartial justice system, such a practice contains the foundation for destroying the public trust in the objectivity and impartiality of the judicial process. If true, that is a very disturbing concept and should be exposed and strongly opposed.

  • The incredible shrinking Haditha case

    06/16/2007 10:24:38 PM PDT · 44 of 47
    middie to xzins

    I believe the convening authority can reject the Article 32 investigating officer’s recommendation and have it done again. Since I wasn’t a JAG on active duty I’m not sure of that but as deputy to a convening authority I recall something like that. If he has the authority to do so I’d bet it’s rarely used, so a negative Art. 32 report will probably end that case.

  • T.O. (Toronto) announces campaign to attract gay tourists (in an obscene way)

    06/16/2007 10:15:38 PM PDT · 32 of 44
    middie to cripplecreek

    My house on Long Point/Port Rowan in Southern Ontario is about 2 hours by expressway to Toronto. Ballgames there are fun and the reataurants excellent and the Canadian Forces guest house on the lake a pleasant place to stay. It’s s damn shame to litter the town with this sort of promotion and its consequences.

  • Antioch announces it will close in July 2008

    06/16/2007 10:08:57 PM PDT · 11 of 20
    middie to vox humana

    I think that’s too bad. The school provided an outlet for some admittedly differently oriented political literature and spokespersons, but morre dissenting speech, not less, it good for the dialogue and keeps the debate intellectuall focused, albeit oftentime heated. Never been there but I have met some of the school’s graduates and enjoyed listening to their views. And, not their grads are coo-coo nutcases, some articulate their positions well. It may be a misguided position to be sure, like some of the total disarmament discussion of the 1920 & 30s as the European and Asia threat grew, but a well argued erroneous position can be countered with equally well argued sense.

  • Man who fed puppy to boa gets 90 days in jail

    06/16/2007 9:58:33 PM PDT · 55 of 105
    middie to Viking2002

    He did that stupid trick knowing he’s end up in Joe Arpio’s jail? His time should have included a sentence for abject stupidity. That crazy-ass sheriff has the right idea of incarceration as a deterrent for repeating a crime in Maricopa County. He violates every jail standard enacted by the national council for that sort of stuff according to a young criminal lawyer in our building; to which I say: bravo.

  • Iraq Contractors Face Growing Parallel War

    06/16/2007 9:50:31 PM PDT · 7 of 11
    middie to Americanexpat

    What in the wild, wild world of crap happened? Sorry, A guest spouse of someone from my wife’s office, I found out, got to my computer that was left on in my library while I was down at the waterway fixing a tiedown. I just saw what was posted and the other one too just a few minutes ago after everyone left our little shindig. I know the guy and will shake him up next week when I see him. He’s nut case with no discernable affiliation but does enjoy making dust like this. Hell, I’ve got a nephew working for some black ops contractor. Again, my apologies.....

  • Bush Warns He'll Veto Runaway Spending

    06/16/2007 2:47:13 PM PDT · 39 of 68
    middie to Lurker

    Well said, hear, hear——!

  • Iraq Contractors Face Growing Parallel War

    06/16/2007 2:46:12 PM PDT · 2 of 11
    middie to MinorityRepublican

    Good. The bastards shouldn’t be there in the first instance. Their presence does nothing to advance our mission and has been a gigantic payback by the Bush guys to their largest campaign money contributors. The various rationale’ and feigned justifications are exactly that.

  • Hospital ship sails toward Latin America (Unbelievable)

    06/15/2007 1:59:06 PM PDT · 44 of 197
    middie to massgopguy

    It goes beyond the fact of being tied up at the pier of a nation. There are instances where a U.S. flagged naval vessel is a tub of sovereign U.S. territory; example, a warship. Even though the hospital ship is crewed and otherwise belongs to the Navy, it generally is considered as participating in the international law of the sea for all but a very few purposes. The aid to foreign nationals is not one of those purposes.

  • Hospital ship sails toward Latin America (Unbelievable)

    06/15/2007 1:48:48 PM PDT · 26 of 197
    middie to stevio

    No! There are maritime cases on the subject.

  • Bork v. Bork

    06/15/2007 1:45:52 PM PDT · 20 of 21
    middie to Alberta's Child
    Hey, don't misunderstand me. I have a personal and professional dislike of Robert Bork. His distortion of antitrust theory and the protection of competitive practices is anathema to me. On the bench as well as in his writings and speeches he is merely a shill for the massive machinery of anticonsumer piracy and the Chamber of Commerce; an institution not known for its protection of the American consumer. Yet, he's articulate, persuasive and, similar to any other type of tyrant, political, economic or judicial, bathes in a pool of self-justification through mistatements and universalization of his conclusions from anecdotal examples.

    There are very few people with whom I disagree intellectually that I wouldn't share a beer and ballgame with; fortunately for me, I don't have to exercise that prerogative with Judge Bork because it's certain to not arise.

  • Bork v. Bork

    06/15/2007 12:57:16 PM PDT · 15 of 21
    middie to SierraWasp

    My English text approves of that tense with multiple modifiers....

  • Bork v. Bork

    06/15/2007 12:34:06 PM PDT · 10 of 21
    middie to California Patriot
    I, and members of my firm, as well as most trial lawyers with whom I associate, are all proud to be a part of the 450 year common law tradition of protecting the rights of individuals from the harm of others and the impression or oppressions of government. We, and are ancestors in the law, are the last line between the citizen and agencies of government who hope to gain its own way even if the rights, privileges and immunities of person due constitutional protection are breached.

    Similarly, none of us respect those few of our misguided brethren who have abused the law in their attemps to transform it from a helping profession into a craven business that places the generation of revenue above the welfare of those whom we have sworn our oaths to represent before the courts.

    Like us, don't like us, no matter; many people share that disdain until they need one of us to protect their rights. Don't forget, a few years ago FR was in a world of copyright hurt and it was a fine lawyer in LA who protected this forum.

  • Why Did C-SPAN Blacklist Savage?

    06/15/2007 8:04:37 AM PDT · 328 of 349
    middie to montag813

    I comforted that you’re not in charge of foreign policy. When foreign policy decisions are made in pique or upon emotion it ceases to serve the national interests. That precise attitude was a leading cause of the Russian mobilization and the Kaiser’s ultimatum that set the match to WW I; both were insulted and felt their honor impaired. If a nation is going to engage in a beer hall brawl it should be because there is a vital national interest at stake that adversely affects that nation’s position of power or influence in the conduct of its own and international affairs.

  • Why Did C-SPAN Blacklist Savage?

    06/14/2007 11:46:46 AM PDT · 318 of 349
    middie to raccoonradio

    You mean that clown didn’t even attend the event? And he’s complaining that his DVD wasn’t taped? How callous and irrational. You’re right on with your analysis of his character and tactics. Well said....

  • Why Did C-SPAN Blacklist Savage?

    06/14/2007 11:44:15 AM PDT · 317 of 349
    middie to montag813
    Kosovo is not even a pimple on the rump of the geopolitical dynamics at work in the region. I counsel a dispassionate step back form the rhetoric enflamed by the Pan-Slavic Russians and the interest lobbies. Kosovo should be viewed in the larger context of U.S. vital national interests not who did what to whom in a century long since past.

    Our president wouldn't understand the concept of a nation having neither eternal friends nor enemies only eternal interests if it bit him on the ankle. That was obvious by his irrational cheerleading episode in Trirana earlier this week. Getting all worked up because Serbia rescued downed America airmen in WW II is a non sequitur, neither does it impact on U.S. interests if Albania swallows Kosovo unless we want to placate Mr. Putin and his new found interest in the Pan-Salvic movement that Russia has advanced since Tsar Nicholas II sought to protect his geographic ''six'' from an encompassing Austro-Hungarian Empire urged on by The Kaiser and Bismarck before 1871 and even after by Bismarck's replacement from 1871- to the start of WW I.

    The subject, if one wishes to make it so, is exceedingly complex and not properly susceptible to bumber sticker argument or Savage-like sound bites that begin with a conclusion without the benefit of any historic or contemporary international power relationship analysis. Outbursts like those posted here are easy, simplistic, sound macho and--are equally wrong. I'm out--das ende !!!!

  • Why Did C-SPAN Blacklist Savage?

    06/12/2007 12:57:21 PM PDT · 26 of 349
    middie to TBP
    Yesterday, Savage carried on about Kosovo and the Balkan states without the slightest historic knowledge or understanding of the dynamics of that region and its storied past. Serbia will acquiese in the separatist act because it, and only it is their ticket to EU admission. I think GWB was ill-advised to lead the cheer he did yesterday, but it's only another in a long line of dumb acts by him. Whether Kosovo is under Albanian influence or not simply doesn't matter; the world situation with Islam and the West will not be altered either way. Kosovo is 90% -95% Muslim anyway and has been a constant thorn in the Serbian eye. It's not a religious or even an ideological issue, it’s an historic quest dating back to 1815 and, while not the underlying cause, was the match that lit the fire of WW I in 1914. Poor Mr. Savage, he hasn’t a clue other than some cockamamie knee-jerk reaction to some wayward piece of propaganda issuing from some web site with an agenda.
  • Why Did C-SPAN Blacklist Savage?

    06/12/2007 12:44:08 PM PDT · 2 of 349
    middie to TBP

    Because he’s as crazy—I mean pathologically, as a loon

  • How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico

    06/10/2007 3:00:35 PM PDT · 21 of 76
    middie to Wonder Warthog

    Just an innocent but curious question: Is your view that Ike was too liberal based on empirical experiences or on something you read? Were you an observer of the Ike presidency and the times in which it took place? Ike was a lts of things, some excellent and some not. He was exactly the president needed during that period of post-war stress, Korea and the anticommunist scare tactics. Have you read the Ambrose authorized biography of Ike and his life and presidency? I ask these questions because I can’t recall a single historian, and I read a lot of histories, who would conclude that Ike was too liberal (of course, the above excludes the faux histories of the John Birch crazies and their kin).

  • Judge puts retrial idea to bed { Sleepy Lawyer }

    06/07/2007 11:54:56 AM PDT · 4 of 5
    middie to SmithL

    the trial judge is a first class jerk. A fair trial does not include an endurance march or marathon to get to the end. He’ll get reversed; properly so.

  • GOP Debaters Belittle Bush's Worth as Ex-President

    06/06/2007 2:16:06 PM PDT · 9 of 90
    middie to Sleeping Beauty

    Tacky? How about accurate?

  • Spain may send navy to search U.S. treasure boats-(can our Navy sink their navy)

    06/06/2007 1:55:48 PM PDT · 66 of 67
    middie to Strategerist

    Ooopps, wrong country, sorry. I should have lokked at the U.S. Naval Institute data..

  • Spain may send navy to search U.S. treasure boats-(can our Navy sink their navy)

    06/05/2007 3:16:54 PM PDT · 56 of 67
    middie to Sax

    Spain’s Navy consists largely of pbsolete U.S. ships sold at scrap value to Spain. They operate a good ship at sea and are an important component of NATO in the area of Cental Atlantic.

  • Survival school will allow water bottles after man's death

    06/05/2007 3:11:37 PM PDT · 7 of 14
    middie to kinoxi

    Even in the USAF survival school in Nevada mountains in the midst of the very hot, extremely dry summer the school made sure that we had sufficient H20 and there were streams pointed out to us on a map as a capture-free zone.


    06/03/2007 10:55:39 AM PDT · 14 of 21
    middie to zeaal

    I’m embarrassed that he is a brother USAF 0-6. We were taught to apply better analytical skills to complex issues than he’s demonstrated in this matter. His scatter gun insult to those who differ based on independent intellectual analysis is contrary to both a colonel’s role of listening before making a knee-jerk reaction as well as a lawyer’s understanding that every controverted issue has at least two sides with supporting rationale’. I had always thought much better of him and cannot express the depth of my personal disappointment in his conduct and remarks or his tunnel vision.

  • ReEnlistment Ceremony - SFC David C. Osborne

    06/03/2007 10:47:45 AM PDT · 5 of 23
    middie to davidosborne

    ‘Way to go David. There’s not a better career than one serving for many years in uniform. It is the most rewarding of experiences to reflect on as age and retirement takes over. The great feeling of leading and leaving an institution better than when you joined it is a source of self-esteem and comfort that exceeds all other forms; especially with regards to military service. Carry on...Well Done!

  • Profile In Incompetence, A 10-part Series On The Worst President in American History (con't)

    06/03/2007 10:37:00 AM PDT · 17 of 19
    middie to John Jorsett

    Sorry for the misinterpretation, I thought it was defense of GWB and the consensus of his disaster as president.

  • Invasion of Normandy coast re-created on XM Track 4, June 6, 2007

    06/02/2007 8:00:17 PM PDT · 16 of 18
    middie to Excellence

    Hey, cool! Thanks for the heads-up. XM is great in the car for the morning drive and cross state trips to Tampa with channels 70 & 71 jazz.

  • British Iraq pull-out plan

    06/02/2007 7:43:42 PM PDT · 3 of 3
    middie to samtheman

    When the Brits go the tactical situation in the south of the country will be in even more chaos than it is now. We don’t have the forces to spread across that region to keep the rail line and Port of Basra viable. We cannot rely on Iraqi troops to be self sustaining or operationally effective. The terribly bad situation that exists now will be exacerbated by quantum leaps.

  • Invasion of Normandy coast re-created on XM Track 4, June 6, 2007

    06/02/2007 7:30:10 PM PDT · 12 of 18
    middie to Excellence
    My dad was a P-47 (the Jug) pilot flying close air support for the landing. While I was at USNA and knew that I was bound for flight school, he told me the entire story, a comprehensive oral history of D-Day preparation and execution. For many week his group and squadron had been engaged daily in target of opportunity interdiction behind the Pas d' Calis area, German rail yards, re-supply depots, road tunnel (block them with debris), fuel depots and what little remained of Lufwaffe airdromes and aerial control and radar intercept facilities in western France. The P-51 Mustangs had taken over CAP (high cover) with air superiority and escort for the masses of B-25s and B-26s for low level visual bombing on the same targets. the ''Jugs'' kept suppressed and not resupplied.

    Fighter aircrews were issued little dexadrine pills to keep them alert as they flew repeated sorties from the English south coast. But he said none of his squadron mates needed them since their level of enthusiasism was over the top (his phrase) and they enjoyed their work. If the Germans had any air defenses left, they didn't use them. Perhaps they were afraid of being pounced on after the first gun flash or their radar systems were so totally destroyed that any firing of AAA would have been essentially bore sight and useless. One thing they later discovered from intelligence learned from POWs, most of the antiaircraft batteries were manned by conscripted Polish soldiers who had little motivation to fire on allied aircraft. The same was true of about 60% of the ground defenses on the beaches other than what turned out to be Omaha and Utah.

    Just before his death in 1995, he read the Ambrose Invasion books based on oral history (he appreciated Stephen Ambrose since he, too, was a history educator, obtaining his degrees on the GI Bill and returning to active duty as a flight instructor in jets after Korea and eventually as a professor at the new Air Force Academy for two years before his retirement - - ironic, he thought, that I chose USNA. His comment was that Ambrose got D-Day precisely correct even though my dad saw his D-Day from the cockpit of his Jug, ''Miss Rosie.''

    When, at last, some of the Wehrmacht panzers left their well hidden encampment to confront the invasions forces (Hitler refused to release them until late in the afternoon of June 6th, and then only three companies of tanks), the Jugs were tasked to run the roads, find and destroy them, the classic interdiction mission. He had a photo albumn of his Jug with many miniature tanks painted just below the bomb mission indications.

    I have XM in my car and guess I'll be sitting in the garage listening to the radio documentary.

  • Profile In Incompetence, A 10-part Series On The Worst President in American History (con't)

    06/02/2007 6:07:08 PM PDT · 10 of 19
    middie to Ronaldus Magnus Reagan

    I doubt that, but it’s a moot question and boast in any event.

  • Bum's Bill of Rights

    06/02/2007 5:00:20 PM PDT · 23 of 23
    middie to Chode

    Is the subjective belief that someone has ‘invaded your space’ (whatever that is) the same as a unilateral determination that the speaker does not have the freedom to speak? Curious, and irrational, unreasonable and untentable, but curious. But, since you have the reciprocal freedom to both speak and believe what you choose, speak back at the space-invader and tell him, with your speech freedom, to get away from you and leave you alone. But, that right doesn’t rise to the level of having the availablity of law enforcement to silence the space invader.

  • Profile In Incompetence, A 10-part Series On The Worst President in American History (con't)

    06/02/2007 4:54:29 PM PDT · 8 of 19
    middie to John Jorsett

    OK, Carter is worse than Bush. So, let’s say GWB is not actually the worst, maybe even better than James Buchanan, Clavin Collidge or even Chester Arthur. Where does that leave us? OK, so GWB is the 39th best president of the U.S. Whoopie, I guess that makes everything constituting the contemporary FUBAR just fine. Is that what you’re saying? Is that the end result of this debate of who is the worst? One last question, rhetorical though it may be: Is this what we’ve sunk to?


    06/02/2007 4:45:58 PM PDT · 29 of 44
    middie to Jeff Head

    This bill is DOA and so will be the senators who support it.

  • Fred Thompson: Hugo Opportunity

    06/02/2007 4:13:47 PM PDT · 19 of 43
    middie to word_warrior_bob

    Watts is inarticulate for a good reason, he’s not very bright and knows only what the RNC tells him.

  • Christian doc says 'Dr. Death' violated all ethics

    06/02/2007 4:10:04 PM PDT · 9 of 10
    middie to cripplecreek

    Like the sign over a urinal at Friday’s in a major city - - to remain nameless lest the franchisor come down hard on the manager. It read: ‘’ We aim to please, your aim will help.’’