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Posts by msnpatriot

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  • CrunchBang Linux - Best Linux for an old laptop?

    01/02/2010 9:00:23 PM PST · 27 of 58
    msnpatriot to JoeProBono
    The CrunchBang distro sounds interesting, will check it out.

    Also ran across another useful one called Super Ubuntu. Which is Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic with all the extra audio, dvd, and video codecs preinstalled including many extra programs. Saves alot of post installation time setting up. Install is over 1gb in size, real quick with USB drive.

    http://news.softpedia.com/news/Super-OS-9-10-Karmic-Koala-with-Muscles-130795.shtml

  • JFK Theories; Oswald and Hasan

    11/22/2009 8:56:55 PM PST · 97 of 100
    msnpatriot to All
    Have enjoyed the JFK FR discussions throughout the years, learned alot.

    It's a joy to watch the ‘Lonenutters’ gradually disappear spouting the official line, which BTW seems to me the the farthest out conspiracy of all, about JFK!

    Also a long time student on the assassination here.

    Should be a good panel on JFK tonight, C2C with George Knappe and Jim Marrs.

  • Eva's Useful Guide to Ubuntu 9.10

    11/16/2009 8:38:45 AM PST · 30 of 60
    msnpatriot to Ernest_at_the_Beach

    Thats a very informative guide, thanks.

    Have been using Ubuntu since 8.04 LTS.

    Just installed Karmic 9.10 on a dell D600 dual boot with XP, and Karmic Ubuntu Netbook Remix on Acer Aspire One.

    Karmic is my favorite version by far, very fast and smooth.

  • Arnold the fool ask's: Who is running the state?

    04/27/2009 10:23:45 PM PDT · 8 of 8
    msnpatriot

    Vote in the poll John & Ken had today. It was running about 95% to 5% that they should run the state instead of Arnold. :>)

  • OK I'll (vanity) it: The Mexican flu is total Bull. Must be a distraction.

    04/25/2009 7:31:09 PM PDT · 63 of 77
    msnpatriot

    Bull or Not.......Just another important reason to secure the border!

    And if it secures the border I don’t care if it’s true or not. It’s amazing more things like this haven’t happened in the past.

  • Passed my EXTRA CLASS Ham Radio exam tonight (vanity)

    04/09/2009 6:04:12 AM PDT · 40 of 118
    msnpatriot
    Congrats! And Enjoy! In a time when hams can enjoy the hobby with computer technology. They do a good job incorporating them together.

    Passed Extra in 98, the nature of CW caught my interest and have stayed with that mostly. Like the fact that there's still lots of CW activity, and contests. Did alot of Fists operations, SKCC for manual keys.

    Good Luck

  • Obama To Push Immigration Bill Despite The Risks [12 Millions Illegals Get To Stay]

    04/08/2009 10:23:09 PM PDT · 7 of 20
    msnpatriot

    I’m sure the govt will try to push something else through when the nation’s attn is on Amnesty.

    But, I’m shocked that any President would legalize people from another country when so many Americans are out of work!

    It seems as though there are forces from within our own govt trying to destroy us.

  • Obama to Push Immigration Bill as One Priority

    04/08/2009 9:49:17 PM PDT · 43 of 49
    msnpatriot
    This is a lie, there have been a wide variety of opponents from all parties.

    All the way back to the 2006 election where many Democrats won seats based on their promise to oppose Amnesty!

    A BS article from the NYT’s, as usual, meant to create a perception rather than report accurately. Also, Real Americans that are out of work aren't from one party.

    ***Opponents, mainly Republicans, say they will seek to mobilize popular outrage against any effort to legalize unauthorized immigrant workers while so many Americans are out of jobs.***

  • The GNU/Linux Desktop: Nine Myths

    03/17/2009 7:49:34 AM PDT · 12 of 141
    msnpatriot
    The debate about Microsoft and Linux reminds me alot of how people look at the govt’s and citizen's role.

    With Microsoft more is done for you, less input is required, that's what you pay for. No matter your input/interaction with MS, there is a limit to what you control.

    Linux is free natured and spirited, you become involved and interact with a system that puts the user first. The user sets the precedent, and gets out of it what they put into it. A few months of studying a Linux O/S from a book covering the installation, and use of say Hardy Heron 8.04 for example, would liberate many computer users in a refreshing way. :-)

  • Conservative talk radio on the wane in California

    03/15/2009 10:31:25 AM PDT · 43 of 63
    msnpatriot
    This article is a classic example of the Mainstream Media creating a ‘perception’ rather than reporting responsibly and accurately.

    I know the Calif Talk Radio scene well and for years. Some of the names mentioned not on radio anymore left over a year ago. This is mixing old news into a story fabricated for now. For example John Ziegler left long long ago, was involved in a station power struggle. John & Ken hit home more on the Calif budget problems than Ziegler did and they are still on the air.

    Larry Elder might have been involved in a power struggle too, at KABC. He was replaced by someone more conservative than him, Mark Levine.

    If anything there is more variety in conservative talk radio shows in Calif, and in the LA/Orange County area, there are new conservative talk show hosts being tried almost monthly. Check out KGIL 1260 stream.

    This article is an example of how hard talk radio has hit California's state policies, ppl are being informed, tax revolts are developing, and the truth is on the air waves just like it's supposed to be!

  • The Little Ol' FR 2009 NHRA Drag Racing Thread

    03/14/2009 8:56:49 PM PDT · 52 of 327
    msnpatriot
    Really like racing cars in general, used to do it, SCCA racing mostly Riverside and Willow Springs. Formula Vee...The yearly racing schedules at Riverside held a variety of different cars Nascar, Sports Cars, Open Wheel, Indy, Bikes, I think there was some Drag Racing at one time.

    BTW, there is one racing series that includes drag racing and road racing together, :-)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZft7lP15Y0

  • Netbook Buying Guide

    03/05/2009 2:51:45 PM PST · 8 of 12
    msnpatriot

    Netbooks are great, easy to haul around when your busy.

    Like the Acer Aspire One, and the Asus, nice working netbooks.

  • Senate Rejects Fairness Doctrine, But Dems ‘Open Back Door to Censorship’

    02/27/2009 6:55:55 PM PST · 12 of 14
    msnpatriot
    So the Fairness Doctrine has been killed. That applies to radio waves.

    Wouldn't the ‘Backdoor Censorship’ through the FCC require that all broadcast be balanced like CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS, NPR, CNN, MSNBC, Foxnews, Newspapers, etc?

    If so that might kill the deal right there.

  • California Porkulus Tea Party?

    02/21/2009 3:45:03 PM PST · 70 of 102
    msnpatriot
    For those around Orange County or San Bernardino keep an eye on the KFI 640 John & Ken site. They will be holding a Tax Revolt Rally as soon as they secure a location. I look forward to going.

    I was disappointed that the Republicans didn't leave the Lockdown in a Civil Disobedient way to make a point on no new taxes. Could have been a start to an anti tax revolution. Of course all they were doing was posturing and acting, nothing else.

  • Republicans Oust Budget-Talks Leader...

    02/18/2009 5:18:02 PM PST · 20 of 23
    msnpatriot to dirtymac
    Been on here for years, and was a big supporter of Fred Thompson on FR. Big FR fan here.

    The Media won't have a choice, they can cover the Republican defiance anyway they want.

    It's the attention it will bring that will count. The Republicans already have support from the John & Ken show on KFI 640 and many others, stream the show now. And support the Fatwah to establish a new anti-tax Assembly leader.

    It's time to resist, the moment is right. And another suggestion, I would recommend those who have not read the book ‘John Adams’ by McCullough order it now and read it a couple of times for added direction.

    ***Are you out of your mind? Republican obstructionist treated sympathetically by the media? You must be new here, I mean to this world, to even consider for a moment even fair treatment by the media.

    The Republicans will be vilified as beasts from hell. The media will use pictures of starving babies from Africa, photo layouts Hurricane Katrina, and the tidal wave disaster from SE Asia. All will be attributed to the devastation that is being caused by the Republicans.***

  • Republicans Oust Budget-Talks Leader...

    02/18/2009 4:48:25 PM PST · 10 of 23
    msnpatriot
    The Lawmakers are confined in the ‘Lockdown’.

    The ‘anti-tax’ Republicans need to DEFY the lockdown. (Just Leave)

    Then, as they're being arrested and interviewed they can create a sympathy situation in the Media, and establish a rallying point for supporters.

    They already have Rush's support and others, doing this could be the start of a Conservative/Republican revolution!

  • Schwarzenegger says he will not reopen budget talks

    02/18/2009 4:01:18 PM PST · 20 of 31
    msnpatriot to passionfruit
    He doesn't know what to do? Why not do what he campaigned for during the recall? He's not supposed to be supporting tax or other increases!

    As for the Republicans, they need to organize now around Hollister, and establish an anti tax Assembly leader. They have ultra big support in the KFI 640 John & Ken show and their listeners who would promote them and they should have some of these anti tax Republicans go out and promote their new agenda over the airwaves and media.

    Call these people and lawmakers, let them know. All the info is on the KFI 640 John & Ken website including a tax calculator to tell you what your tax increase would be. Tax payers are horrified at what our state is trying to do!

    ***I just called Schwartzeneggers office and the lady there said that as of last night there were three votes needed to pass the budget, and that the Governator doesn’t know what he is going to do. She said he doesn’t want to start from scratch on the budget, but doesn’t know what will happen now that there is a new minority leader.***

  • G.O.P. Shakeup Could Derail Budget Deal in California

    02/18/2009 8:14:43 AM PST · 18 of 28
    msnpatriot
    John & Ken on KFI yesterday proposed a budget plan without increased taxes. And came up with more than enough money (in the millions) with just spending cuts!

    BTW, excellent daily coverage on the budget via their radio show at 3pm pacific.

    http://www.kfiam640.com/pages/johnandkenshow/

  • Calif. lawmakers resume marathon budget session

    02/17/2009 7:41:43 AM PST · 12 of 16
    msnpatriot to Amerigomag
    I have been a McClintock supporter from day one and living the California topic.

    Arnold should be questioned and criticized on his support of the increased taxes in the Mainstream Media, and campaign promises. He is conveniently being lumped in with Democrat support for the budget by them.

    Arnold is included in the KFI 640 John & Ken Tax Revolt.

    ***why Arnold and the Republicans against this aren't out there complaining publicly

    The msnpatriot account is apparently new to the California topic.

    Dear patriot: The Austrian is for the tax hike.***

  • Fairness Doctrine slammed by registered dems – too bad, bring it on!

    02/16/2009 3:40:04 PM PST · 8 of 13
    msnpatriot

    Yes, start where the balance is at it’s worst. Public TV & Radio etc.

    Market driven broadcasts would be the last to look at because of their nature.

  • Calif. lawmakers resume marathon budget session

    02/16/2009 3:02:07 PM PST · 4 of 16
    msnpatriot
    I would like to know why Arnold and the Republicans against this aren't out there complaining publicly in the news about these ridiculous tax hikes?

    Going to listen now to the KFI 640 John & Ken show, they might have some inside info what's going on.

  • California's GOP lawmakers should do the budget math

    02/16/2009 10:07:07 AM PST · 11 of 39
    msnpatriot to NormsRevenge

    True, why can’t the state reduce spending? 12 Billion a year to illegal aliens, etc. All the taxes are at the national max already. Something fundamentally wrong here that increased taxes won’t fix!

    ***Based on their performance the last 10 years and especially the last 2 or 3.. that might not be a bad thing at all. ***

  • Senate Republicans Standing Tall! (California Senate)

    02/15/2009 7:13:29 PM PST · 16 of 27
    msnpatriot

    This is good news but how long can they hold out?

  • Conyers seeks DoJ probe into controversial sheriff

    02/15/2009 4:38:23 PM PST · 46 of 67
    msnpatriot to dandiegirl

    Yes they are, and that will be their ‘undoing’.

    I would love to see a showdown on this and the Fairness Doctrine, then move down the road...

    ***The dems in congress are absolutely drunk with power. I’d love to see that sherrif answer a few of these clowns questions.***

  • Conyers seeks DoJ probe into controversial sheriff

    02/15/2009 4:16:07 PM PST · 37 of 67
    msnpatriot

    My reaction to this is the DEMS are sticking their heads into the mouth of a lion. lol

    It’s too difficult to find good public servants like Arpaio, and he has very high local support.

    Arpaio for 2012!!

  • CALIFORNIA: Budget package stalls one vote shy

    02/15/2009 10:02:00 AM PST · 46 of 110
    msnpatriot

    For Californians and those interested in what’s going on in Sacramento join the ‘Head On A Stick’ Tax Revolt here:

    http://www.kfiam640.com/pages/johnandkenshow/

    Listen, or stream the show, live coverage of the Budget mess monday through friday this coming week at 3pm pacific.

    If it passes with the tax increases, the campaign will be continued!

  • CALIFORNIA: Budget package stalls one vote shy

    02/15/2009 9:55:02 AM PST · 43 of 110
    msnpatriot

    California is an experiment replacing legal citizens with illegal ones.

  • Worst Economic Collapse Ever [New American Revolution Predicted]

    02/14/2009 8:09:56 PM PST · 15 of 34
    msnpatriot to ArmedSkeptic
    I agree, sure it could happen, and right about the American Revolution's beginnings.

    BTW, for anyone who wants detail and a good feel of the first 50 years of the the United States Of America buy the John Adams Book and DVD Set off Amazon.

    Watch the series first one time with English subtitles, then thoroughly read the book. You will discover that our govt basically is going against our Founding Principles, and we the citizens are suffering ‘injury’ because of it's actions. This book and miniseries are keepers and should be revisited every year on the Fourth of July.

    IMO there should be an organization established similar to the NRA or Heritage Foundation that monitors govt actions in relation to the Founding Principles, and a Legit ‘Tax Revolt’ organized.

    Remember, the govt can't do evil things without your taxpayer money. And if millions revolt by withholding taxes maybe it can stay peaceful.
    Sure, they can put you in Fema Detention camps with Illegal Aliens they accept from Mexico when it collapses to feed, cloth them and use them for govt labor, but if millions of Americans are in those camps they won't be paying taxes, the govt’s lifeblood!

    ***Contrary to the thoughts of others, it may happen. The American Revolution did not begin with widespread public support or large numbers of people. All it takes to begin is a group of men who believe in and fight for their principles. After it has started, it is easier for others to join. The other possiblity is that desperation may cause some to join as those who have nothing left to lose will see an advantage in fighting for a cause. If we do not have enough men of character, then it will only happen if people become desperate enough.***

  • Beck: Blow-up coming by 2010

    02/10/2009 9:25:40 PM PST · 200 of 332
    msnpatriot to gtsamson
    Are you sure?

    People like Adams and Jefferson amongst others were very reluctant for revolution for a long time. It took many repeated ‘Injuries’ of many kinds to get them to move forward. They too often spoke of the unbeatable power of England as a sobering reason to do nothing.

    Americans now are suffering repeated ‘Injuries’ by our govt like never before in history.

    Though it doesn't look like we will do anything, rebellion is in our blood and heritage, and we've sat at the dinner table too many nights angered by what our govt is doing to us!

    May I suggest watching the DVD John Adams Miniseries, and reading the book. The only account I know of the first 50 years of our history in proper context for a true understanding of our countries birth. Many people then were no more motivated to do anything about King George than we are now with our govt.

    What I see as appropriate for now in the 21st century is a Nationwide Tax revolt. Perhaps an organization like Human Events, or the Heritage Foundation would start a National Tax Revolt movement, maybe build it up like the NRA, as tax ‘Injuries’ are Federal and Statewide. There are multiple tax revolts occurring in California right now. Search the KFI 640 John & Ken page for a look at the ‘Head On A stick Campaign’.

    ***There will be no revolution. Americans simply do not have the stomach for it anymore, and the federal government is simply too powerful to defeat in a military confrontation.

  • HP UK pulls Linux from all new netbooks

    02/09/2009 8:46:46 AM PST · 56 of 60
    msnpatriot to dayglored
    Wasn't it Acer who reported the high rate of Linux netbook returns with their particular version of Linux? I read that the Linux version on the eee pc’s is popular, and that their returns are close to the number of XP one’s.

    Have been running an eeepc 900 since last summer with Xandros using Celeron processor and 1gb ram. People who have used it comment that it's pretty fast, never complain. This OS & netbook have performed flawlessly, I'm impressed.

    BTW, I used this netbook as a ‘test pc’ for Windows 7 Ultimate. It runs pretty smooth with the minimal processor. I think W7 is faster than vista and uses less resources. It seems to work well. I read that one of the 6 versions of W7 will be used for netbooks.

    ***The Beta of Win7 is indeed faster and may be more stable than Vista. It has many features removed and/or relocated to Microsoft's cloud service (Windows Live), to reduce its footprint. Most people who panned Vista seem to like Win7 so far. ***

  • Live CSPAN2: PORKULUS Bill Debate Day 2 [Defeat Porkulus!!]

    02/07/2009 9:41:48 AM PST · 11 of 64
    msnpatriot to Protect the Bill of Rights

    Same here exactly. And, I was outraged when Hannity tried to contact Spector yesterday, and he wouldn’t come on!

    ***Might have to watch today even though it is sending me over the edge...***

  • Snowe, Collins and Specter To Side Against Taxpayers on Socialist Spending Spree (ACTION ALERT)

    02/07/2009 8:57:31 AM PST · 31 of 38
    msnpatriot
    Is it still possible to get Snowe, Collins and Specter (Mr Magic Bullet) to change their votes for monday.

    Why would they go against the will of the people? Don't they check their mail & messages?

    I wish Sessions or someone knowledgeable would have a talk with them.

  • Who Killed JFK?

    02/05/2009 6:29:03 PM PST · 290 of 294
    msnpatriot to mlo
    Reference to Flechter Prouty, another person who is not creditable yet had a distinguished military career from WWII. (He published a picture of the order). And explained how JFK's Vietnam order was reversed by LBJ shortly after the assassination!

    “Kennedy had issued an Executive order for the cease of Viet Nam and the immediate pull out.”

    ***This is not true. There is no such order.***

  • Who Killed JFK?

    02/05/2009 6:24:02 PM PST · 289 of 294
    msnpatriot to mlo
    From day one to this day 2/6/09 I have not run across one person challenging the Official Story who was considered legitimate, creditable, non crazy, media worthy, etc. by the Mainstream Media or Govt.

    How can this be? And anyone who supports the official line is truthful and so believable they don't even need to be checked out.

    Reading the book Regicide stands on it's own, just by the way it's written and what's in it. There is much more info in it than just the conference record, and there are always names attached to that info. This makes the book worth at least checking out and researching a little. There are people who sware by it too, especially ppl in that community.

    “The book Regicide has photocopies of an intel ‘conference record’ listing the 20 or so people involved in the plot.”

    ***Here's a good example of the garbage that has been published about this case. The author of Regicide, “Gregory Douglas”, is a fraud and a forger.***

    http://www.fpp.co.uk/docs/Irving/RadDi/2002/100602

  • Who Killed JFK?

    02/05/2009 5:01:18 PM PST · 286 of 294
    msnpatriot to Pistolshot
    There were countless people involved, military, mob, intel, and civilian especially in New Orleans. Working on the street towards undermining Castro amongst other things.

    Anyone who relies on the Mainstream Media wouldn't know about this. As they don't report on it. There is a wealth of information these people wrote about what they did.

    There is a wealth of information of people who tried to tell the govt about the JFK assassination. It was discovered that they weren't accepting information. That's right!

    Research about the Revele (not sure if that's exactly right) investigation about the Marseilles assassins hired through the mob for our intel (They would fit in good and looked more like Americans and could be disposed of. I believe there is an Men who Killed Kennedy segment on this where when the investigation was completed he tried to turn it over to the govt to verify and make official. They were not interested! Why?

    There was a deaf mute who went to the authorities about activity on the Grassy Knoll, they weren't interested.

    Look what happened to the mob leaders testifying at the House Committee on assassinations about it.

    The book Regicide has photocopies of an intel ‘conference record’ listing the 20 or so people involved in the plot.

    There were witnesses who complained to Garrison that the authorities would not accept their accounts.

    The authorities took Jean Hill into custody that day and told her not to say a thing to anybody about the shot she saw from the Knoll.

    Why weren't all the many Knoll witnesses not included in the official investigation?

    This is the tip of the iceburg, there really needs to be an in-depth book listing all these accounts together.

    ***To accept the government, et al, had anything to do with the murder of Kennedy would require an untold number of people to, be involved, be knowledgable, and be able to keep a secret.***

  • Who Killed JFK?

    02/05/2009 4:34:58 PM PST · 283 of 294
    msnpatriot to mlo
    Bugliosi: Perhaps a little over exuberant? Has anyone read his book about prosecuting Bush for crimes?

    Does anyone believe his book about the JFK assassination and disbelieve his book about Bush?

    ***Bugliosi is an experienced criminal lawyer. He knows how to evaluate evidence. ***

  • Who Killed JFK?

    02/05/2009 4:29:40 PM PST · 282 of 294
    msnpatriot to Deb

    Ah, Yes, the Grassy Knoll, the term probably started by the SS agents interviewed in the early UPI article stating they thought rapid gunfire came from there. Of course they changed their stories as I’m sure they were pressured to do. Though I think one of the closest to the president witnesses Jean Hill said she used the term that day too.

    I’ve seen and read this early UPI article in a 11/22/63 Michigan newspaper that exists today!

    ***Ah, yes, the dreaded “GRASSY KNOLL”***

  • Who Killed JFK?

    02/05/2009 12:55:53 PM PST · 275 of 294
    msnpatriot to Pistolshot
    Generally for these type of assassinations some lowly person is singled out to be the fallguy or patsy, and a fancy cover story concocted.

    It's much more difficult to accept your govt doing it than a lone nut.

    It was disappointing to see the look of shock and fear in Garrison's staff when their research led them directly to the govt and they realized it.

    Garrison's book is an informative read, or at least watch the movie JFK. There's a scene where his staff are at a restaurant and the realization hits home. I think they realized then there was no going back after that, and they were also shocked when the govt opposed them rather than help them find the truth.

    ***There will always be those that will never accept that the erratic, angry, lonely Oswald could murder Kennedy.***

  • Who Killed JFK?

    02/05/2009 12:45:36 PM PST · 274 of 294
    msnpatriot to mlo
    All the info you cite here is after the fact, govt reaction to fill holes in their official story. The assassination was well orchestrated, the cover up was one of the worst in history, full of holes.

    NO PROPER CHAIN OF EVIDENCE to prove anything, unless you want to blindly believe the govt, much like ppl who believed the bailout stories the first week.

    You may recall the running battle right after the assassination between the Govt, Mainstream Media, and the citizens.

    The govt story never made sense from the beginning. This is why the public got involved, and to this day the majority believe there was a conspiracy in addition to our own ‘House’ opinion.

    ***His rifle, with his prints on it, was found on the sixth floor.

    His prints were found on boxes making up the sniper's nest.

    A homemade paper bag the right size to conceal the rifle was found on the sixth floor with his prints on it.

    He was seen in the window during the shooting by witnesses on the ground***

  • Who Killed JFK?

    02/05/2009 12:35:56 PM PST · 272 of 294
    msnpatriot to nufsed
    It may have been Discovery, could have been the ‘Men Who Killed Kennedy’ series too, on History.

    Trouble is channels like these have been compromised by threats of lawsuits, and the govt. If they air information negative to the govt they get pressured to retract it, usually someone can be found to sue as a cover story for the real reason.

    In 2003 History debut’d 3 new additional ‘Men Who Killed Kennedy’ 1 hour segments. They basically solved the JFK case, no more mystery. The were forced to halt DVD sales and the segments and apologize.

    These 3 segments covered the Limo deathbed story from a key Detroit employee, the search for a cosmetic specialist right after the assassination, info on LBJ involvement, and a one hour story about Oswald's mistress who was privy to what he was really doing in NO’s in 63.

    ***History or Discovery ran tests of Oswald’s steps during and after the assassination. Including walking across the floor and down to the break room. It all worked out. I don’t believe the lone gunman,. But I believe that Oswald could have done what was alledged or at least he had time to.***

  • Who Killed JFK?

    02/04/2009 7:46:37 PM PST · 224 of 294
    msnpatriot to Oztrich Boy

    Ha...I think your right about that...From what I recall wasn’t Lovelady a dead end?

  • Who Killed JFK?

    02/04/2009 7:19:58 PM PST · 220 of 294
    msnpatriot to mlo
    Can you cite creditable evidence that Oswald was in the 6th floor and went to the break room?

    ***He could have, and did, easily made it to the break room.***

    IMO, In the order of ‘garbage’ written on the JFK case here's how I rate them from worst first.

    1.Warren Commission

    2.Mainstream Media

    3.Websites repeating the ‘official Story’, some being govt disinformation

    4. Of the 2000+ books written there are a few garbage books like Posner & Bugliosi, and others, but the majority are objective (one can tell by how they are written). Most honestly written books on the JFK case usually cover a micro investigation of some facet of the event, or post info. Rarely do they disagree on the basic established facts of the research community which BTW includes liberals & conservatives mutually working towards an answer.

    And I do understand that our ‘House’ concluded there was probably a conspiracy in the JFK case, with extreme pressure being put on them to obstruct evidence.

    ***You need to understand that there's been a lot of garbage written about this case. Just because you can read some stuff in a book doesn't mean it is true. All those conspiracy books make crap up, or repeat old crap that someone else made up. The actual evidence is often completely different than what the conspiracy books tell you it is.***

  • Who Killed JFK?

    02/04/2009 7:04:11 PM PST · 217 of 294
    msnpatriot to IYAS9YAS
    Good story :-) I'm sure if you could have submitted it to the Warren Commission they would have entered it as evidence against Oswald!

    We still don't have a witness that saw Oswald use the elevator or stairs. Excuse my Perry Mason approach to evidence.

    BTW, did anyone listen to the radio show in the original posted link? It was an informative.

    ***When I was a young lad of about 10, I would race my Aunt's elevator by using the stairs. She was on the third floor. I could beat her going down, but up, the elevator beat me about half the time. This was a matter of 15 seconds, or less, for a 10-year-old to go three flights. For Oswald to go 4 flights down, would likely be no different. Also, going down, I was rarely out of breath or sweating. Going up? Different story.***

  • Who Killed JFK?

    02/04/2009 5:39:12 PM PST · 207 of 294
    msnpatriot to mlo

    Would not stand up in court, and very unlikely he did use the stairs as it was a short period of time he had to use them. And the people using them didn’t see anyone.

    ***Witnesses not seeing him doesn’t mean he didn’t use the stairway.***

    After the officials visited Oswald in the morgue he had ink on his body, not disputed. The Official story would not hold up in court.

    ***There is no evidence fingerprints were added later.***

    Your behind on your research, there is plenty. There is more known about Oswald in the year 2009 than JFK or anyone else involved. More has come out on Oswald recently, one example being the 700+ page book written by his mistress who spent most of her time with him in New Orleans in 63. She was privy to his ‘Intel’ assignments in detail. People just don’t realize what info is out there, suggest search keywords on Amazon. There is weeks worth of reading available to anyone interested.

    ***There’s no evidence he had any “Intel orders” to do anything.***

  • Who Killed JFK?

    02/04/2009 4:15:03 PM PST · 185 of 294
    msnpatriot to mlo

    ***Myth. He was able to get to the break room from the sixth floor in time. This has been demonstrated by recreations.***

    How? The Elevator was disabled and witnesses didn’t see him use the stairway. What did he do? Jump on the floor and fall magically through a hole? Recreations can show anything you desire! I suppose if you believe the ‘Magic Bullet’ theory, you could believe the ‘Magic Hole’ theory too.

    ***He was working on that floor. There finger and palm prints on the rifle and the boxes that place him there.***

    The finger prints were added later, false evidence reported by a witness in the morgue. Of course he was working there, that was his ‘Intel’ orders to stay put until his next assignment.

    ***The policeman didn’t change his story in any way that would make a material difference.”***

    The change in the story made it more believable that Oswald could have rushed to where he was found.

  • Who Killed JFK?

    02/04/2009 3:51:27 PM PST · 179 of 294
    msnpatriot to mlo
    Oswald was never seen in the 6th floor by anyone, he wasn't there. He was seen by witnesses in the building where he would not have been able to move from the 6th floor down to where he was found moments after.

    In fact, the motorcylce policeman was urged to change his testimony for the WC (probably intimidated with a threat), I believe his first account, not the 2nd.

    ***Who says Oswald can't be placed in the crime scene? Oswald worked there. He was seen there. He admitted being there.***

    “Taque’s book was interesting, not to mention that Oswald can not ‘physically’ be placed in the crime scene, some of the earliest basic evidence provided by people in the depository and the motorcycle policeman show that.”

  • Who Killed JFK?

    02/04/2009 3:16:48 PM PST · 164 of 294
    msnpatriot to se_ohio_young_conservative
    Taque’s book was interesting, not to mention that Oswald can not ‘physically’ be placed in the crime scene, some of the earliest basic evidence provided by people in the depository and the motorcycle policeman show that.

    There are a number of books from witnesses, Jean Hill (The Last Dissenting Witness) who ran to the knoll looking for a shooter (She was interviewed live on NBC that day reporting a shot from there.

    The Parkland doctor wrote a book I think called ‘Conspiracy of Silence’.

    And many more...

    ***Reading Jim Tague’s book convinced me that there was more than one gunman.***

  • Who Killed JFK?

    02/04/2009 12:43:34 PM PST · 102 of 294
    msnpatriot
    Where Posner & Bugliosi leave off is when it gets interesting.

    Intel conference record lists the 20 or so conspirators by name and researchable. From the book Regicide.

    Amazon excerpt:

    OPERATION ZIPPER” was the code name of the assassination plot of John F. Kennedy, President of the United States of America.

    The 98 pages long paper entitled “OPERATION ZIPPER Conference Record” is a long list of decisions and activities of various U.S. authorities in a CIA-conducted project. All major facts behind the Kennedy assassination are found in the “Zipper” Document. For the first time, the motives of those who organized and instigated the act are clearly and decisively exposed, as are the names and official positions of those who directed the killers. This document was probably produced by the five CIA top officials mentioned in the distribution list (McCone, Angleton, Carter, Crowley, Harvey) in order to cover themselves, since this document clearly proves that the assassination of J. F. Kennedy was anything else but a private plot by a few CIA senior officers going rampant.

    http://www.amazon.com/Regicide-Official-Assassination-John-Kennedy/dp/1591482976/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233778959&sr=1-1

  • India unveils $10 laptop!

    02/03/2009 9:01:52 AM PST · 23 of 45
    msnpatriot to kingu
    Yes, very happy with Asus netbooks. Netbooks + Linux = JOY :-)

    Amazon and Tigerdirect have good deals on Asus netbooks right now with 160gb hard drives and xp home in the $300-330 range. Also Acer Aspire with 160gb and better keyboard in this price range

    ***Asus EeePC laptops can be purchased for under $300 (though better to buy the ones online vs Target’s really stripped down model.)

    Very happy with them.***

  • Republican senators vow to resist Obama stimulus plan

    01/29/2009 5:12:53 PM PST · 24 of 56
    msnpatriot

    The Obama Pelosi stimulus is not ethical, logical, American, realistic, constructive, or helpful.

    $500 to a illegal alien worker and $1000 to a illegal married couple is just one example.