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Before addressing your concerns I referred to the soil maps and the geologic reports, and maps, showing not just mineable limestone BUT ALSO the vast fields of limestone that underlie virtually every part of the state.

What you are doing is defining a type of sedimentary rock as 'sandstone' even where the grains of sand/silica are glued together with calcium carbonate.

Sandstone glued together with silica is a tad different ~ if you've ever been to Wausau Wisconsin you'd see a ginormous outcropping of the stuff ~ a glacial movement during the last peak period transported much of that mountain to Northern Indiana and Ohio ~ we had a bunch of it in the backyard of the home where i grew up. That was not glued together with calcium carbonate. BTW, disturbingly, I've found some of the same rock here in Northern Virginia so that'd be a glacial period BEFORE the Appalachians rose ~ probably the Snowball Earth period ~ just thinking of the size of an 800 mile long glacial flow.

Back to OK, the three areas you identified as having limestone are simply areas where there is currently active mining, mostly for crushed rock. Over in Indiana that quality of stone is usually turned into portland cement. However, in commercial grades of building limestone, you are going to find that some fine grained early ~ pre-life ~ limestones look to have sand in them.

Looking over the OK soils maps ~ of interest to agriculturalists if not geologists ~ there doesn't seem to be a lot of wind blown loess like you find further North, but there are 'sand hills' ~ in places.

When I look at this map ~ http://tapestry.usgs.gov/ages/carboniferous.html - I see Pennsylvanian limestone, and then coal, in NAWTHAN OKLAHOMA! There are other limestones to the Souf!

Between Waco and Chicago there are currently MORE THAN 50 STORMS ~ one of them is a tornado North of St. Louis!

Even if every gay in America voted for him Obama would have still won.

It’s all ocean bottom. http://digital.library.okstate.edu/encyclopedia/entries/L/LI004.html says it’s all over the state. Remember, when you dig down through the thin soils (and anything less than 35 feet of glacial till topped by 25 feet of topsoil is ‘thin’) there’s limestone all over the place. OK doesn’t have the glacial till, but it does have plenty of ancient lakebeds and even a salt flat or two ~ but underneath it’s limestone ~

Tri State back in 1925 had 700 deaths.

Depends on how you measure these things ~ bodies, dollars, square miles of devastation, what?

Remembering that storm, friends from Marion IN lost all their automobiles, trucks, trailers, windows in homes, windows in offices, etc. because of the incredible hail storms that accompanied the tornados.

The question was windspeed, not force. That’s going to depend on the size of the storm and how much debris it picked up as well as wind speed.

When the Teneriffe tsunami wipes out Rhode Island we can smugly rejoice I suppose. The Senator should get busy writing a law to prohibit tsunamies.

Done regularly with radar

http://www.psmag.com/science/a-survivor-of-the-worst-tornado-in-history-tells-her-tale-58178/ my mother survived this series of storms ~ she was very young at the time ~ she’s now in her 90s. Her mom and dad lost all but one small photo of a sister who died in a whooping cough epidemic ~ that’s out of 10 kids. There were 700 dead ~

Oklahoma and Texas sit atop a vast plain of limestone on which there is a relatively thin layer of soils of different sorts. Sewers are blasted into the limestone ~ making them remarkably expensive.

Still, you can shelter in a drainage ditch and I have done so in Indiana ~ another karstland with somewhat different topography.

There's simply no audit trail ~ electronic or paper ~ that tracks backwards from the point where the ballots are counted to the citizen who voted.

It does not exist!

As anyone who has ever studied the Chicago method can tell you witnesses lie, officials can be bribed, boxes can be swapped,.......

Paper ballots offered no more of an audit trail than any other method!

Used to be the cheaters held tight to the paper ballot systems on the grounds that there was a PAPER TRAIL ~ as if that even meant something. Nobody's signature is on the ballot so you don't know where it came from.

Electronic systems are as reliable and useful as any other although I rather admire the Greek system where you held your hand in the air. That was replaced by the easily defrauded 'light or dark piece of tile in a bucket' system.

You'd had to have been asleep for a couple of decades to have missed out on Mitt Romney single handedly inventing GAY MARRIAGE!

His first policy hire for his campaign was a GAY GUY.

He beat Obama to the punch!

You were never a chil’?

Chillun’ are well known for lying about sex.

I just explained that the homosexuals pushed Romney's poll numbers up ~ showed the mechanism ~ and you believe that could happen but don't want to think of it as having happened.

It's not so much Democrats answering polls more frequently ~ it's about subgroups like the NEA, the abortion rights fanatics and the homosexuals answering polls every single time!

That's been happening all along. It's the reason why gay marriage polls show it's popular, but when put to a vote it generally loses.

The only way pollsters can deal with this is to get out of the polling business.

Plenty of ‘backwards migration’ in Africa.

On his grandfather’s and grandmother’s sides in America there will be every race and variety of mankind going all the way back to the first landing of Europeans in the Americas.

Only if you confound culture with ethnicity or race. The dude’s father was a typical East African African ~ not an Arab.

? So the older girl was simply stupid beyond belief. What’s not to get even with ~ there’s certainly no shortage of lesbians of legal age ~

I’m not at all concerned with the details of their molestations ~ just their mindset. They are perverts and law breakers.

Regarding the relationship of guns and suicide ARE THERE NO BRIDGES IN AMERICA?

Only to the aficionados

Ever since the Italian government began prosecuting the mob guys who owned all the windmills in Italy (it was a racket there ~ which it probably is here too) we've heard less and less from the usual crowd of LENR critics.

I think they are going to jail!

The left considers Jews who jump the geto walls to be the worst kind ~ so your guess is probably right on target.

Wonder to what degree donors to Santorum, Gingrich and Cain were intimidated by IRS harassment and threats?

That way the campaign would fall to Romney, who could be ~ and was ~ easily thrashed by the forces of evil.

Well, the Democrat voters do feel put upon by all those Republicans buying guns to protect themselves. Jus’ ain’t fair out on the streets anymore, and suburban home robberies are no longer fun!

Most people can’t afford to pay $1000 to the DC government just to save some kid’s life. Those who can are probably not interested in doing so anyway.

Maryland’s governor is a fascist pig.

Next time the kid dies.

DC is too progressive for words!

The Tierney thesis is the same old socialist fallacy that the pie is fixed and nothing ever changes.

By the time he'd get everything retrofitted my handy dandy pocket disintegrator ray would have taken out half of Massachusetts and all of Rhode Island, so don't P me Off Tierney!

The fact that only 9% of those polled actually end up providing an answer gives the edge to subpopulations who simply make it a practice for every member who gets a call from a pollster to answer it.

Example, if you have 1000 people and 10 are gay, the other 990 are not gay. Yet if the not gays answer normally ~ at 9% ~ they'll account for 90 responses. If the gays answer abnormally, that is all the time, the 10 gays will account for 10 responses.

Simple math. Let's add in unionized school teachers. Then, the abortion industry. You probably have a good 30% of the total responses accounted for by 3 small far leftwing or very special interest groups.

I don't think you can trust Romney's polls ~ the gays liked him eh!

Leonard Peltier is generally held to have been rather nutty to shoot a couple of FBI agents at the Pine Ridge reservation several decades back.

Just about all the relevant boards that cover the situation contain this line: "Aim members referred to this period as the "Reign of Terror" and claim that Indian traditionalists and activists were persecuted by tribal police and FBI officers."

Frankly, from this perspective, it does seem the FBI hasn't changed much. Killing them doesn't help either ~ they'll just create a new one.

So, short of doing a sit in for Mr. Peltier and his friends, anybody got some good ideas? Maybe what William Raspberry used to call "a white people's riot" ~ that's where you sue the pants off everybody!

Fur Shur Monica Crawley wasn’t running tricks with the Dean gal. Not even when she was much younger, if not thinner.

Dean’s to-be wife was still running tricks at Secret Service and State Department parties long after he’d begun ‘dating her’.

Benghazi, IRS and half a dozen other scandals and missteps reveal a very evil aspect of the Obama Regime and the people Obama hired.

The 'little people' don't count!

It's like I'm back at Arlington Towers when Leona Helmsley was the landlady ~ she actually shipped in cockroaches to detract us from the fact she had ceased all building maintenance.

FL was in the news on dropping or planning to drop hundreds of thousands from the rolls ~ but the real problem there wasn't so much organized cheating as it was an entitlement attitude on the part of the New Jersey and New York crowd that they were allowed to vote there and 'back home'.

For the election, though, they lost Charlie Crist's followers ~ only way to 'splain the results. Guess we drove him off as well as the margin of victory. All of that has to be made up for with massive Republican voter registration.

BTW, we don't want to expand the ideological base ~ just the number of Republican voters. They're out there. Somewhere.

They cleaned up the voter rolls in Florida so well we lost.

Look, if you just willy nilly clean the rolls and fail to add new Republican voters to replace those who've died, or who might vote Democrat just because we dumped Charlie Crist, the cleaning didn't help us.

It is quite believable that Romney got no votes at all in some districts.

He really wasn't the sort of candidate we could respect so why would Democrats respect him?

If you were talking about someone who was a strong candidate, or had some core values, maybe your argument might make some sense. Frankly, the Democrats didn't have to cheat to beat this guy into the ground.

WE have something on the order of 210,000,000 people eligible to vote in this country.

Obama's max was just short of 70,000,000 ~ about 1/3! At the time Democrat party sources said they'd pretty much ran out of people who wanted to vote Democrat. Potentially there are 140,000,000 who are available to vote the Democrats out of office!

I lived through a 1 mile wide tornado that came through Indianapolis back in the 1950s. It skipped over our neighborhood, but not others.

Santa Fe has seasonal rainfall and that made a big difference. Even with a major drought underway in most of the rest of what is now the United States, they had monsoonal flows.

I think the Spanish got pretty despondent over the situation. How ever would they have realized the 80 year drought cycle would be over by the 1620s.

You mean he doesn't know yet?

Well, darn!

Obama is, of course, a very stupid man.

The Germans made sure to kill plenty of others without benefit of gas chambers and ovens. They have their heirs in the supporters of ObamaKKKare.

All great famines that’ve been studied to any length turn out to be induced by governments.

At the time of the partitioning of the continent it was near the time of an end to the Great Drought that'd been ravaging everything for the last 50 to 60 years. Virginia had actually had 17 years without rain.

The Indians lived up stream everywhere they could find fresh water. Apparently the Spanish had an exceptionally hard time settling except on a fringe of the Gulf Coast and as far west as Santa Fe ~

This was a parched desolate land with no hope. Spain gave the land between New York and North Carolina to the Protestants to see if any of them wanted anything to do with it.

The survey teams out marking the territory with benchmark stones laid in an enormous IHS ~ which had been a somewhat popular monogram for Jesus ~

More like 66.6 hours ~ Obama Time

My first response to this same story today is still good.

"Yeah, I'm sorry I didn't ask earlier if Susan Rice was actually a mindless twit who had no business in an important government job. See what I mean about Obama being unable to attract talent. "