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The problem with these types of scenarios is they make BHO something he is not. He does not have the guts it would take to undertake such an action (even if it were justified).

Obama operates by obfuscation and treachery. The article would call for a bold plan of commitment and determination. He doesn't have the capacity for that sort of action.

Obama has Hitler's ambition with Chamberlain's courage.

>>>I don’t think it’s his downfall necessarily either, but the AGENDA has taken a serious hit, and will more so.

Now that I agree with. I was just saying the same thing today to a buddy of mine.

He won't go down for any of this...but for all intenets and purposes...his agenda is stalled...and he's got a lot less street cred with the dems come 2014 after Obamacare cleans their clock.

This is why he never knows ANYTHING. Plausible deniability. It’s by design.

And I should also add...the AP story is only a big deal to the Media as far as I am concerned because frankly...I am sick and tired of congress and their staffers leaking classified info. I have a security clearance and take it very seriously. I feel no sympathy if they are being investigated....AS LONG AS IT IS FAIR and snags leaky Leahy as well as any GOP loud mouths.

If the proper warrants were obtained and the records were obtained according to the law...I have no tears for the meadia. A security leak undermines our country.

I hate to say it but the compost is right (for the wrong reasons).

I have heard numerous talking heads and talk show hosts talking about how this could bring Obama down....and even some Freepers. Bull-o-knee. Ain't heppening.

Evil, corrupt dictators at this stage of their reign are usually very good at hiding their tracks. There will be NOTHING that leads back to the White House. NOTHING. It may be plain as day that it does...it may be obvious the POTUS is lying. But there will be no proof and just like always he will simply say: "I know nothing...we had nothing to do with it...I just found out watching the news..." and you won't be able to prove a thing. He has NO honor so he will not be shamed into stepping down.

If any here think this is his down-fall...I'm willing to make a little wager with ya...

BFL

We had a funeral for my aunt up in the Madisonville area last weekend and it took everything just to find a hotel. My cousin said it was all the oil business in the area. The place is booming.

I knew... Just KNEW... Someone would post a negative comment ( and an obvious DUH one ) about the distance. And there you are.

You probably would have told the Wright Brothers the same thing. "Sorry Orville, I know this has never been done before but a couple hundred yards just ain't gonna cut it if you want to get to Wilmington. "

First they came for the Rich...and I didn't Speak out...because I wasn't a Rich...

Then they came for Big Oil...and I didn't Speak out...because I wasn't Big Oil...

Then they came for Gun Owners...and I didn't Speak out...because I didn't own a gun...

Then they came for the Tea Party...and I didn't Speak out...because I wasn't part of the Tea Party...

But now that they are coming for me...you better believe I'm going to craft a finely worded editorial!

Since when is Maxine Waters a Senator?

I think you are thinking of one of the other FINE....OUTSTANDING women of Cali...

I have been so frustrated that this man has been getting away with so much.

But perhaps that was God's plan. The more he got away with...the bolder he got. Who knows what all he has done that will come out...and he did it because he got away with so much and got arrogant.

God will not be mocked...and that is why HE is in charge.

>>>He sure as Hell didn’t tell me to vote for her. That’s on you, fool.

I know one thing Jesus did say. He said don't call your brother a fool. (Matthew 5:22)

Maybe you should worry a little more about yourself...

>>>He’s got me; best I ever did was 115 in my 1972 Mustang Mach I on I 465 in the wee hours of the morning. It had more to give but the Ford steering was so bad, I was starting to drift between lanes. That was enough for me.

Did 155 in my GTO on Business 288 (Brazoria County Tx) for a brief moment and then 150 on 288. 135-140 too many times to count.

Now...I can barely make myself go over the speed limit. We are making a trip across TX later this month and I have no idea how I'm going to drive 85...

I think it is strategic idiocy to telegraph the end game before you have these rounds of hearings. It allows the enemy to set up the charge of partiality and unfairness.

Coming out and saying all of this beforehand is not smart politics and lets the enemy know you are gunning for them...but then again...look who is talking.

I agree. One of my duties in church revitalization was to work a lot with inner city churches. Fortunately I have worked with a lot of great men of God...but came across a lot of Cults of Personality.

And discernment is the key. Most churches, regardless of size, are not truly a New Testament church in one way or the other. I come across mega-churches which do a great job in missions (Sagemont for example) and evangelism....but STINK at discipleship and real fellowship. And then on the flip size I have small churches that will criticize those mega churches for that...and I simply ask: How many people...outside of your own children...did you lead to faith in Christ last year ('cause after all...if you can't win your own kids then you are pretty awful)? None? So not even the PASTOR won a soul to Christ? So you bash the mega-church because it's impersonal and they don't disciple...but you don't fulfill the Great Commission.

Over 50% of all congregations (evangelical) will not see one person baptized this year...and yet every one of those 50% will say they are the best church around. LOL.

I was actually at Sagemont for 15 years. I am at another church now. But yes...Sagemont is about as conservative and orthodox as you can get.

I have problems with mega-churches...but it is the same problem I have with protestant churches and other evangelical churches: Their great commission; discipleship model. Mega-churches are just a bigger model of the smaller church of 50 or 100.

Having worked as a church consultant and been the director of the church revitalization ministry...I can honestly say it doesn't matter what size the church is. Small churches have their issues just like large ones do....they are just different. You can get lost and feel lonely in a mega-church (or you can get placed and fit into a small group)....and you can get on the wrong side of the power in a small church and get hammered.

People love to pick on mega-churches cause they are easy targets but given the chance...the discerning eye would be able to spot the cockroaches lurking in the darkness behind the fridge of those doing the criticizing. The power struggles that can go on are epic...and nasty...

You have to admit...It takes some big ones to go to Mexico...and blame their violence on our guns when you yourself sent many of the guns which caused the violence and killed a lot of innocent people.

Talk about hubris....he's got it.

And he also knows NO ONE in the media will bring up the hypocrisy. Not even Johnson had that kind of arrogance.

I think this administration has bitten off more than it can chew...and the dominoes are starting to fall. Once Obamacare is fully implemented...we may be in full blown rebellion.

And I want a law like this in Texas.

>>>Hmmm, so this is how you grow a mega-church.

I know plenty of mega-church pastors who teach orthodox Christianity and beleive this guy is a heretic.

And the list is getting longer of mainline protestant pastors and Catholics Clergy who are straying into this error. ALL aspects of Christianity are seeing this error creep in.

Ha. I’m a victim advocate as part of the Air Force’s SAPR program. Gotta send this to my boss...

When you choke off the front end of the supply chain (the raw materials) with regulations, etc...which is what many manufacturers have said...and then eat up the back end...then you successively dry up the chain.

The ammo producers can only produce so much when the federal government has restricted their access to raw goods.

They are manipulating the market just like Wall Street execs do...creating shortages so demand goes up.

Duh...said this when I saw the first order of a couple hundred million rounds. It was pretty obvious that was what they were doing...putting most of us normal people out of the market.

Maybe I should be a congressman.

Anything that weakens Federal Power...I support. Even if it is a State choosing to have legal Marijuana. I would vote against it in my state...even though I feel fairly certain alcohol is far more dangerous and leads to many more deaths...but a poke in the federal eye is a poke in the federal eye.

>>>When I see most movie trailers, I can say to myself: "Well, there is the whole movie right there."

Especially in really bad comedies. Chances are every funny scene is in the trailer.

There is a such thing as going too far...which is what the enviro-whackos have done.

Look...anyone who thinks we did not need to stop and clean up our act is just as crazy as the loons on the left. I remember how dirty things used to be in the city as a kid...and how rivers were getting polluted.

Corporations REALLY don't care...and if we didn't pass laws to make them behave....they would dump stuff that would kill us into the lakes and creeks just to save a dime. We used to live by the largest Phillips Petroleum 66 plant (Sweeny Complex) and my Aunt was a night guard before she became an operator at one of the refractors. She watched the trucks leave full (this was back in the 70's) every night at about 3 am and come back empty. They were emptying that stuff into the water table that we drank out of.

And in the early 80s' (maybe '84?) we lost water pressure on a new well we had just dug 5 years earlier. So my dad pulled the well and at 60' feet he saw the problem: The solid BRASS foot valve had a hole eaten through it about the size of a dime and was the consistency of chalk thanks to the chemicals in the water table.

So...yeah...not all environmental regs are bad...

Marijuana is obviously legal where the author wrote this piece if he thinks Obama will be impeached.

We tried that before...and had legitimate reasons back when the country was actually paying attention...and it came back to bite us in the rear. What do you think will happen now when a president who should be at 15% is at 50%...and the country is clueless.

>>>Nikki is a classy lady and she’ll probably let it slide.

To heck with that. Make them play by the same rules they created!

If I were the GOP...I would call everything racist and intolerant....EVERYTHING.

BFL...that was good.

>>>Rules are rules

Yep...and if we keep it up...all of us will violate one of these idiotic PC rules eventually...including you.

Some day you are going to get busted with a weapon (when they've been outlawed)...but you should have known better 'cause "rules are rules."

I always find these music threads amusing. People are the same...and it doesn't matter whether they are conservatives or liberals: If they don't like something they thing the whole world is crazy if they do...as if their particular taste in music is normal and everyone else is abnormal.

Meanwhile they're still spinning 33's in the basement listening to their stack of Feron Young records.

But I will say this: I do not think the music of today compares to the music of the 60's, 70's and 80's as far as talent goes. First...you never know if what you are hearing is real or mixed. Second...the shear complexity of music today is much les than 20 or 30 years ago. Listen to the complexity of a modern top 40 and compare it to something from Rush or LZ or Pink Floyd. Doesn't compare...but tastes are tastes. But I think this is why a lot of younger kids like older music. My kids (teen and younger) like older rock rather than the new stuff...they like to hear a little guitar getting beat.

>>>Who listens to this crap?

There's probably millions of people saying the same stuff about the music you listen to.

Me? I've got everything on my iPhone from Yanni to George Strait...to Dr. Dre...to the Les Miz soundtrack...from Garth Brooks to Pink Floyd...from Andrea Bocelli to Petra to the P-Furs. I've got the Gaither Vocal band and I've got Led Zeppelin. I've even got Gregorian Chants and the Andrews Sisters and Artie Shaw.

Music is the spice of life. Some folks are bland eaters...and some...not so much.

>>>The problem isn't in the White House. Its out here. Its the folk who don't recognize corruption and evil when its telling them what they want to hear.

I agree. The problem is that most normal people are clueless. I have a lot of family and friends on facebook...most of them very conservative...but they haven't the first clue about anything news related...and if they do...it's the news snippet they heard at the top of the hour on the local pop/country station. They have cluttered their lives with so much stuff they do not pay attention...and therefore...nothing outrages them...and they don't make their voices heard.

Now tell them about something and then ask their opinion? And they will be in agreement with you...but by and large they don't want to hear it. Monkey see, hear, say no evil. Tell them the specifics of the Gosnell trial and they would be appalled. Ask them and they would not have a clue. They are too busy running kids to and fro...texting with friends...sharing cute puppy pics on facebook and watching The Voice.

America has become desensitized and dumbed down...and it ain't just the hood rats.

>>>I have a problem with then 20-year-old Desiree Hawkins being referred to as a mother.

I was scanning the thread to make sure someone didn't say what I was going to.

But you already did...so I won't say it. ;-)

MOTHER?

Bread and circuses. Too little care for what really matters.

>>>So, NO a shotgun is not better than a full auto machine gun, shot from a distance the shotgun cannot reach.

To be fair, he said: "If you live in a city and you think you need protection of your home..."

And that is true. If you live next to me...I would rather you protect your home with a 12 gauge than with an AK....and I am sure anyone in the next room would prefer it too.

You kinda got to think about other innocent people when you are protecting your castle. Now...on the other hand...an "assault weapon" is useful for protecting your home from another kind of threat...but we aren't there yet.

>>>>Actually, no. The workplace is for work. Somebody is paying for your time to do their work, not God’s work.

Nobody is suggesting you not work...but share your faith while you work.

If you can't talk about anything other than work (according to your definition) because someone is paying you to work...and if that is wrong...then you can probably courts martial every man and woman in the military...starting at the top. I've been in 26 years. I laid 5 clicks of C-Wire in Iraq. You telling me I should have just talked about C-Wire cause "I am being paid to work?"

Someone in this conversation has obviously never sat guard duty or mid night watch. The work place is for work...and chit-chat is everywhere in the military...and if we are going to say a work place is for work only...then you gotta lock up the entire military.

And what I said is true...we all know why this is being put forth...and it ain't to stop Muslims from sharing their faith.

>>>my guess is part of the load broke loose and shifted aft probably right at rotation or slightly after takeoff, causing the Center of Gravity to rapidly shift aft beyond aircraft control limits.

That's my guess having been a cargo increment monitor in a past life and having worked with numerous load masters.

>>>Doesn’t look like a load shift, looks like a total loss of engine thrust. It just stalled and fell like a rock.

I loss of engine thrust doesn't drag your butt down like that. You compensate by dropping your nose and gaining speed. That is a load shift.

You and I both know that is not where this is headed.

And yes, the work place, the mall, everywhere is the place to tell people that Jesus saves.

That aside, there are some people who do not follow the scripture on sharing their faith...namely the guidelines laid down in Luke 10 and Matthew 10.

But the bottom line here is: This administration doesn't want Christians to share their faith. I will wage a dollar to a penny that Christians will be singled out rather than Muslims. Doubt it?

Formattingisyourfriend...

When are they going to run the story on the millions who are leaving to go evangelical across the world?

Oh...wait...it's kinda like propoganda....shhhhhh

I said this back then. There were F-18's available and even usually all they have to do is show of force missions and the muzzies scatter. We did it in Iraq...so much so that it became the biggest mission for the fighters.

They were less than an hour away. You launch the alert fighters....they fly low and fast...pop flares...and it buys you time.

Yep...I'm blocked here too.

"Access through the AF Gateway to websites are blocked or allowed by category in accordance with:AFNetOps MTO 2007-311-003A, MTO 2010-161-003A, and NTO 2009-087-001"

To be honest...I'm shocked I actually still have access to FR.

BMFL

Too many people...even here at FR...are Pro-Constitution and Pro-Law when it’s conventient. I see it far too often. It makes me think I have stumbled onto DU.

Listened to Levin talk about this. He nailed it (as usual). Dude is a citizen. We may not like the laws...but them's the laws of the land. Don't like them? CHANGE THEM!

I get so amused at people who get onto the left because they don't follow the letter of the law and then don't want to follow the letter of the law when it doesn't suit them.

We call that HYPOCRISY boys and girls.

Their "fans"?????

I think someone is a little optimistic.

I thought it was pretty clear...and is a good policy.

Terrorism is one of those areas. It IS the government's constitutional job to provide a defense for the homeland. If people don't think that includes modern technology...then they need to get rid of their AR's...and stop all helo's with FLIR capability...among NUMEROUS other things.

People are funny. They want all their modern conveniences...but want law enforcement to act like the Amish...anything higher than that is an assualt on their civil rights. It's easier for the left to maginalize people when they give them reason after reason tht defies common sense.

Uh...No...she doesn't have to "ASK" her boss. She has to inform her boss. That is the law. It is then up to her BOSS to rearrange the work schedule.

I have actually had this issue happen to me. Before I was active duty, I was a DSG (drill status guardsman...part-timer). I worked at a company that decided it wasn't going to be very friendly to my training. they told me I either had to take vacation or arrange a "swap" for the days I would miss for UTA weekends. And so I did...for 2 years...and missed a LOT of UTA's because I was working and couldn't get a swap or didn't have the vacation.

THEN...I got the USERRA briefing at work one weekend. I went into my boss's office the next Monday and informed him that what they were asking me to do was against the law. They (him and the next in line) told me that was the policy...but that they would check with their company attorneys.

SHOCKER: I was called BACK into the office 4 days later...and it was determined that "I had misunderstod them" and that SURE I don't have to take off for UTA's...and NO WAY do you have to arrange a swap (even though I had been doing it for 2 years...and even missing drill because of it). They were glad they could clear up my misunderstanding.

After "discussing" the issue for about 30 seconds...and realizing their attorney had told them to not admit guilt...I just smiled and said "yeah...right." and left.

So...she has tell her boss...and it's curteous to let them know ahead of time...but she doesn't have to. She doesn't have to ask...and she can be gone for up to 4 years for training and her job has to be there when she returns (or an equal position). Get smart about the law before you comment.