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  • Air Force apologizes to family after armed traffic stop (Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio)

    04/11/2014 6:23:23 AM PDT · 64 of 109
    par4 to The Working Man
    Happened to me once too with much less excitement; entered the "booth" - swipe, PIN and Argus. Heard the mag locks slam shut. Banged on the glass to get someone to let me out.

    Since the guards saw me every day and knew that I didn't have a weapon (the metal detector would have gone crazy if you even had on a belt), they let me back out onto the unsecure side and said "what did you do?

    Database error, couple of hours waiting for it to get straightened out. Had to wait until the next day to get back in, took a pretty good hazing when i got there.

    But the guards were very professional and did not overreact in the least.

  • 36% of Workers Have Less Than $1,000 in Savings

    03/18/2014 6:41:06 AM PDT · 20 of 37
    par4 to Resolute Conservative
    Good choice, I put all mine in gold coins buried under a tree in California.

    Wait a minute.....

  • Sarah Palin vs. Mitch McConnell (Senate Conservatives Fund email)

    03/14/2014 12:33:08 PM PDT · 35 of 43
    par4 to cotton1706
    I wrote the below about Scott Brown in July 2011:

    About 6 months ago, on the coffee table in his office in the Russell Building he had two books. One was Teddy Kennedy’s and one was Harry Reid’s. That, in and of itself, should help with your questions.

    Now really, would even a mildly conservative politician have those 2 books on the coffee table in his Senate Office? He's an opportunist, nothing more.

  • Search for lost jet expands amid signs it flew on

    03/14/2014 11:00:27 AM PDT · 52 of 82
    par4 to Jack Hydrazine

    Transponder codes are issues by Air Traffic Control before each flight, they are not specific to an aircraft.

    In order to get a transponder code, you have to file a flight plan and one will be issued.

    Or fly VFR (1200).

  • Theories Behind Missing Flight MH370 (Passenger Cell Phones Ring,Then Hang Up)

    03/11/2014 4:54:39 PM PDT · 49 of 66
    par4 to lbryce
    Last year I was on the lovely tropical island of Kwajalein. No, repeat no cell phone service on US systems (there is a local system but it is pretty much Marshall Island only). Land line or internet protocol only if you have access, which is pretty much limited to a couple of areas.

    People calling me left voice mail messages even though my outgoing message said that I was not able to receive any phone calls until I got back to the states. You could tell who didn't listed to the message by what their message was; they didn't notice that I wasn't in cell range, in fact my phone was off.

  • Who’s the Villain Here? (vomit alert)

    03/06/2014 9:54:54 AM PST · 9 of 11
    par4 to laweeks
    “We have a weak and indecisive president that invites aggression,” scolded Senator Lindsey Graham (revealing his own weakness: grammar).

    Having taught grammar for quite a few years, I'm wondering where there's a grammar weakness . . . maybe "that" for "who"?

    How about the Times didn't get the punctuation correct:

    “We have a weak and indecisive president; that invites aggression."

    I can't believe that I am supporting Lindsey. How embarrassing.

  • Chevrolet Sells 1,210 Volts In February, Off 26% From 2013

    03/04/2014 2:11:25 PM PST · 18 of 18
    par4 to Sacajaweau
    This quote is also in the report: "After all, Level 2 charging or not, everyone's got a 110-Volt socket somewhere."

    Sounds great until you really spend a few minutes thinking about it. First, you will need the outlet to be GFCI, that's a given for outdoor outlets today but to be certain you should probably carry a GFCI adapter. After all, you cannot be certain that the outlet has the protection and OSHA is pretty adamant on having ground fault protection.

    Second, the cord has to be protected from foot traffic as well as vehicular. Foot traffic is the main hazard, no one would ever think about running an extension cord across a driveway without properly rated covers, would they? So, if the cord runs across the ground far enough for a person to walk between the car and the outlet a cone would be necessary. Trip hazards, you know.

    Third, if there is no outside outlet, the OSHA regulations really kick in, cord protection against pinching, no running through holes without bushings etc.

    That doesn't even take into consideration that the cords have to be inspected for cuts or abrasions, tested to ensure that the ground wire is intact etc.

    It all seems laughable when you can just run an extension cord, and it's no big deal at home. At a business however there's a big liability factor. If I'm walking down the sidewalk and trip on an extension cord and get shocked, the business if going to have a long visit from the OSHA people and their EMR is going to go up considerably. Fines are a real possibility too.

  • Couple That Found $10 Million in Gold Coins Will Have to Hand Over HOW MUCH in Taxes?

    03/01/2014 6:43:47 AM PST · 30 of 54
    par4 to rktman
    I would disagree with the Governmen't position. The value of the coins once sold is different from the value of the coins originally assigned them by the government.

    In other words, since these coins are, and technically remain, legal tender of the United States, then they are redeemable for their face value. A $20 gold piece is, as currency, worth 20 dollars, just like a 1979 penny is worth a penny even though the copper content is worth more.

    You could make a case that if they are sold for more than the value assigned that is a captial gain, but until sold they are only "worth" face value.

  • Speedy Glaciers Trample Multiple Ice-Age Theories (article)

    02/19/2014 1:32:13 PM PST · 16 of 16
    par4 to afsnco
    The Mt. St Helens canyon was one-fortieth the depth of the grand canyon, not one-fourth.

    Even the ICR uses this number and also says: "In Spirit lake, north of the volcano, an enormous water wave, initiated by one-eighth cubic mile of rockslide debris, stripped trees from slopes as high as 850 feet above the pre-eruption water level. The total energy output, on May 18, was equivalent to 400 million tons of TNT - approximately 20,000 Hiroshima-size atomic bombs."

    Impressive. Let's compare to the Grand Canyon. The Colorado River travels over 1400 miles to the Gulf of California. The amount of rock that would need to be moved would be orders of magnitude greater, there would be hundreds of cubic miles of rock which would eventually end up in the Pacific Ocean. The amount of water required to move that much rock and disperse it into the ocean would be thousands of cubic miles of water. With that much force behind it there is no possible way that the Colorado River would make multiple "U" turns on its journey to the sea. That much force would cut a straight path with very shallow sloped sides, not deep canyons with vertical walls made of limestone, shale and sandstone.

  • NJ to Wyoming: Butt Out of Our Gun Laws

    02/19/2014 1:01:41 PM PST · 37 of 49
    par4 to Tenacious 1
    States "have broad powers to set gun policy, and in ours, a strong majority supports strict laws,"

    Let's try this revision: States "have broad powers to set marriage policy, and in ours, a strong majority does not support gay marriage and the state does not recognize same sex marriages from other states".

    Want to bet on whether a court will overturn that law?

  • Vanity: Seeking advice on buying silver

    02/14/2014 8:41:26 PM PST · 58 of 68
    par4 to gitmo

    Because the Chinese are faking bullion like 1 ounce bars while pre-64 silver US coins are not faked (except rare ones like proofs). So if you have a mercury dime you can easily determine its value, with a bullion coin or bar you really need to get an assay to be sure.

  • 20 percent of Obamacare enrollees failed to pay their premium

    02/14/2014 10:04:18 AM PST · 10 of 11
    par4 to yoe
    In addition, some people must have changed their minds about whether they wanted coverage,

    Kind of gives a whole new meaning to the idea that health insurance is mandatory, doesn't it?

  • Man who shot cop during raid thought he was defending pregnant girlfriend from robbers

    02/10/2014 1:36:25 PM PST · 28 of 47
    par4 to Ol' Dan Tucker
    In any event, just how does one destroy five pounds of marijuana during a police raid?

    If Bob Marley were alive, he'd know how. (/s)

  • Pastafarian Town Council Member Sworn in While Wearing a Colander on His Head

    01/09/2014 1:59:52 PM PST · 44 of 77
    par4 to tcrlaf
    My nephew was married in a semi-pastafarian ceremony, guests were dressed as pirates or ninjas. It was a nice ceremony with almost all attendees joining in the celebration.

    Since I am known as the strange uncle, I dressed as the Spanish Inquisition (no one expects the Spanish Inquisition).

  • Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee: Change the Word 'Welfare' to 'Transitional Living Fund'

    01/08/2014 8:46:46 AM PST · 39 of 83
    par4 to Sub-Driver
    What a great idea - we should also change the Preamble from "Promote the General Welfare" to "Provide for Transitional Living".

    Or not.....

  • Is global warming behind polar vortex?

    01/07/2014 5:44:11 AM PST · 39 of 82
    par4 to SMGFan
    It's just as likely that one of the turtles that support the world had a bad case of gas.

    After all, it's turtles all the way down.

  • Bill Nye “The Science Guy” will debate founder of Creation Museum in Kentucky

    01/03/2014 8:35:45 AM PST · 37 of 110
    par4 to Conservaliberty
    This is a false statement. Ham does not believe that the earth was made “in a couple of days.” He believes it was exactly six days.

    This misrepresentation is to purposely make Ham look like an idiot.

    It wasn't exactly 6 days, wasn't the first day separating light and dark?

    How many days to make the Earth is the question, the answer does not appear to be six.

  • Huckabee Promotes GOP-E, Demeans Conservatives

    12/29/2013 7:02:41 AM PST · 23 of 42
    par4 to Diogenesis
    I will repeat what I said in 2011 when I was in Scott Brown's office in the Russell Building. He had two books on his coffee table, Harry Reid's and Ted Kennedy's.
  • Crystal Ball: 2014

    12/28/2013 5:25:14 PM PST · 36 of 39
    par4 to SeekAndFind
    The Super Bowl is often the most watched show of the year, but this year’s edition provides an unprecedented novelty act—a chance to see a championship decided in a winter wonderland in New York in February.

    The Super Bowl is being held in New Jersey, not New York.

    Nice try, Carnac,,,,,,

  • The man who saved the lightbulb

    12/18/2013 6:39:35 PM PST · 19 of 30
    par4 to kitchen
    "Daylight" fluorescents are 5000K, what was previously referred to as cool white is 4100K and warm white was 3000K. 3500K is a middle value used more in offices to cut back on the bluer tinge of the 4100K lamps without the yellow appearance of the 3000K lamps,

    The manufacturers are marketing compact fluorescent lamps at 2700K as similar to incandescents since they are closer to the red end of the spectrum like an incandescent.

    6500K are available, but not commonly available and the cost is much more than 4100K. The metal halides you see at warehouse stores run around 5000K.

  • Best Creation News of 2013: Astronomy

    12/18/2013 1:56:40 PM PST · 67 of 73
    par4 to Fuzz; kimtom
    “also note Fuzz (y) had no hair , nor brains and “Parfore” is Slavonian for toothless, I equate with lack of brushing or hygiene.” What’s that all about?

    It's the equivalent of taking one's ball and going home because you can't change the rules to your advantage.

    Or, in this case, the correct response, in keeping with the moon theme would be:

    Yeah, your mama's so fat she has little women orbiting her

  • Best Creation News of 2013: Astronomy

    12/18/2013 1:27:20 PM PST · 63 of 73
    par4 to BrandtMichaels; freedumb2003; Fuzz
    From a mathematician viewpoint the long ages evolution answers are so far from anything reasonable

    Evolution? And here I thought we were (or at least I was) discussing the age of the rocks brought back from the moon.

    What does evolution have to do with the discussion? Did microteslas evolve differently on the moon? Let's keep the insults somewhat close to the discussion.

    vain godless attempts at scientific reasoning.

    Reason me this, where is the scientific proof that "any magnetism somehow produced by an impact would persist no longer than about 10,000 years" as stated by Humphries. One peer reviewed study will suffice, two is, of course better.

  • Best Creation News of 2013: Astronomy

    12/18/2013 12:24:31 PM PST · 54 of 73
    par4 to freedumb2003
    Curses, foiled again.....

    It does frustrate me no end when a scientist's work is carefully mined to find tiny nuggets that can be used to promote an opposite conclusion that sounds good to those who want to believe in that other outcome. Frankly, I do not usually get involved in these discussions, I just read them for amusement. Sometimes, though, you have to see where the rabbit hole leads. And when the articles date rocks at billions of years old, it's hard to figure out how you can then conclude that this is proof that they are really only 6,000 years old.

  • Best Creation News of 2013: Astronomy

    12/18/2013 11:12:32 AM PST · 50 of 73
    par4 to BrandtMichaels; freedumb2003
    Citing Humphreys is another circular trail leading back to a creation "science" article. However, with a little digging into his footnotes we find a small problem:

    Proceedings of the Sixth Lunar Science Conference, Pergamon Press, New York pp. 3049–3062, 1975. For example, accurate tests on sample number 62235, a basalt taken by Apollo 15 astronauts near the Descartes highlands, showed it had cooled down in a 1.2 Gauss magnetic field, twice as strong as the 0.6 Gauss field at the Earth’s magnetic poles today.

    So, the ejected basalt (ejected by a collision that formed a large crater) cooled down in a magnetic field that was twice as strong as the magnetic field is on Earth at the poles today. And, that basalt was ejected 3.6 billion years ago, although the AR /AR dating may be off by 170 million years, give or take a couple million. The temperature that was when ejected was something like 650C which caused the minor discrepancy (about 5%) in the dating.

    What the moon's former magnetic field strength was 3 plus billion years ago has to do with the Earth's today is apparently there for informational purposes.

    I am in agreement with the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster that global temperatures have been rising as a result of the decline of pirates. However, with the resurgence of the Somalis, temps are going down again. Maybe I should submit a paper for peer review?

    Time to play chess with my parrot.

  • Best Creation News of 2013: Astronomy

    12/18/2013 10:20:08 AM PST · 38 of 73
    par4 to freedumb2003
    The footnote about the magnetic field of the moon does - eventually - lead back to an actual scientific publication. Unfortunately for the ICR, that publication dates the basalt rocks studied as being almost 4 billion years old and indicate that the dynamo that caused the magnetic field to form lasted 160 million years longer than previously thought.

    Abstract from the Nat'l Academy of Sciences:

    "The lifetime of the ancient lunar core dynamo has implications for its power source and the mechanism of field generation. Here, we report analyses of two 3.56-Gy-old mare basalts demonstrating that they were magnetized in a stable and surprisingly intense dynamo magnetic field of at least ∼13 μT. These data extend the known lifetime of the lunar dynamo by ∼160 My and indicate that the field was likely continuously active until well after the final large basin-forming impact. This likely excludes impact-driven changes in rotation rate as the source of the dynamo at this time in lunar history. Rather, our results require a persistent power source like precession of the lunar mantle or a compositional convection dynamo".

    How the ICR then determined from this paper that "But granting this model for the sake of argument, it still fails because any magnetism somehow produced by an impact would persist no longer than about 10,000 years. That's not nearly long enough to fit their long-age ideas." Where the 10,000 year maximum life comes from is not cited.

    Taking real science and spinning the results is only making the author look foolish, citing one's own papers is just plain dishonest.

  • Breaking: Microsoft exec to take over Healthcare.gov rescue

    12/17/2013 1:46:11 PM PST · 59 of 85
    par4 to Bookwoman
    As long as it's as user friendly as Project, all will be well.

    Do I really need the /S?

  • Noah's Ark 'Was a Massive Double-Decker Coracle'

    12/16/2013 1:39:17 PM PST · 122 of 181
    par4 to sportutegrl
    The could have been carried by African swallows

    But African swallows are non-migratory, sorry

  • Populist blowhard Ed Schultz secretly flies on his own fleet of private jets

    12/14/2013 4:21:23 PM PST · 37 of 55
    par4 to diogenes ghost

    The first generation Citations (single pilot rated) were also known as Munson Burners by the really cynical,

  • What do insurance companies think about health care 'fix'? [Video]

    11/15/2013 11:04:50 AM PST · 10 of 14
    par4 to Maceman; All
    The guest is Wendell Potter, "Former CIGNA executive-turned-whistleblower"

    From the Center for Public Integrity (CPI) website: "Wendell Potter is writing about the health care industry and the ongoing battle for health reform. His columns are published every Monday".

    He has two identical columns published on November 12th, one in the Huffington Post titled "Obamacare Scare Stories Obscuring Fact That Many, Like Bob, Are Finding Better Coverage" and the other on the CPI site titled: "Separating myth from reality on Obamacare"

    The columns describe how his friend "Bob" is getting better coverage and saving $1,400 next year.

    Another column of his from Nov. 4th is titled: "What Congress didn't say: Obamacare outlaws policies that are essentially worthless".

    Hardly a spokesman for the insurance companies, especially since he isn't even working for one now.

  • STOP THE MADNESS: Third person reports being anally violated by police

    11/11/2013 8:07:56 AM PST · 31 of 119
    par4 to mandaladon; All
    Just a note - she is from New Mexico, but this happened in El Paso, Texas.

    Yes, El Paso is on the NM border, but this happened in Texas.

  • Judge Denies Irwindale’s Request To Halt Sriracha Production Over Alleged Odor

    10/31/2013 1:19:22 PM PDT · 34 of 37
    par4 to Mears
    At least you all grew up
  • DUmmie FUnnies 10-25-13 (KOmmies Pray to Blue Fairy to Fix ObamaCare Website)

    10/25/2013 1:50:34 PM PDT · 40 of 54
    par4 to CivilWarBrewing; PJ-Comix
    Just imagine how the Republicans will feel when millions of Americans are signing up on the Obamacare exchanges.

    Ummm, maybe I am confused here, but wasn't that supposed to be happening on October 1st? Three weeks after startup and the dummies are hoping to gloat if this monstrosity gets functioning 2 months late?

  • 'Living Gears' Might Have Evolutionists Hopping Mad (article)

    09/24/2013 12:37:29 PM PDT · 67 of 188
    par4 to BrandtMichaels
    For instance, when Mary Schwitzer found soft tissue in a T-Rex the evolution followers simply said there must be something we don’t understand about the decay rates.

    From Smithsonian:

    Meanwhile, Schweitzer’s research has been hijacked by “young earth” creationists, who insist that dinosaur soft tissue couldn’t possibly survive millions of years. They claim her discoveries support their belief, based on their interpretation of Genesis, that the earth is only a few thousand years old. Of course, it’s not unusual for a paleontologist to differ with creationists. But when creationists misrepresent Schweitzer’s data, she takes it personally: she describes herself as “a complete and total Christian.” On a shelf in her office is a plaque bearing an Old Testament verse: “For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.”

    Please, even the scientist who made the discovery doesn't want her results to be so misused. She made her discovery when she dissolved bone in acid, something that isn't normally done due to the rarity of the specimens. What was left was some organic matter trapped inside the bone that may have once been soft tissue but had become fossilized along with the bone itself. In simple terms, the soft tissues also fossilized which was not thought to happen.

  • US plane in 1961 'nuclear bomb near-miss'

    09/21/2013 5:40:15 AM PDT · 37 of 62
    par4 to Conspiracy Guy
    Hell a feller could have a pretty good time in Vegas with this stuff

    Trivia - The actual line was "In Dallas", not Vegas. The movie was completed but not yet released when JFK was assassinated and Kubrik dubbed over "Vegas". If you watch Slim's mouth you can see it.

    I agree, that scene with the reading of the checklist is one of the great moments in movies. The looks on the crew's faces as they unpack and inventory is priceless.

  • David Frum Blasts Gun Rights Advocates During Navy Yard Shootings

    09/16/2013 12:56:35 PM PDT · 44 of 64
    par4 to concerned about politics
    Gate security is done by civilian guards, not military (contract employees). Entry is via 2 gates, one for those with proper ID only and another for those with ID and / or visitors. Visitors have to report to the visitor center for a pass.

    Bringing weapons on base is forbidden, cars can be searched without cause.

    And there is an NCIS facility there, I am sure they are armed, but they have nothing to do with site security (as far as I know, disclaimer).

  • Runner Runner -- opening September 27th will be a hit movie

    09/05/2013 2:53:59 PM PDT · 21 of 43
    par4 to massmike
    That is exactly what I first read too:

    I thought "Great a Road Runner Movie, that I WILL go to the theater for".

    Ben Afleck - nahhhh.

  • Warning: D.C. cops under orders to arrest tourists with empty bullet casings

    09/05/2013 11:07:57 AM PDT · 39 of 71
    par4 to fella

    The Hoover Building still does (at least as of 3 years ago), just not open to the public for tours anymore.

  • DUmmie FUnnies 08-08-13 (Pitt almost stumbles into some truth)

    08/08/2013 6:25:50 PM PDT · 11 of 17
    par4 to Charles Henrickson
    From Mr. Pitt, the author: the Reuters report that also broke on Monday. To wit: A secretive U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration unit

    And here I thought he was a great and famous writer, any wonder why his sales are a little low.

    To wit, the idiom for "that is to say" or "namely" is a preposition and one never starts a sentence with a preposition, do one?

  • Vanity - Bob Grant on WABC (NYC)

    06/18/2013 9:37:57 AM PDT · 15 of 23
    par4 to Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
    Italian slang for "low life"

    Actually a little more insulting, but that is the gist of the word.

  • Deadly giant snail found in Houston

    05/08/2013 6:57:00 AM PDT · 28 of 73
    par4 to Red Badger

    At least they didn’t advise everyone to run to higher ground if you see one....

  • Woods Penalized but Can Still Play

    04/14/2013 6:05:12 AM PDT · 131 of 148
    par4 to C. Edmund Wright
    In the long run, it is still just a game.

    Ces't la vie.....

  • Woods Penalized but Can Still Play

    04/14/2013 5:40:09 AM PDT · 126 of 148
    par4 to C. Edmund Wright

    Since the comment was directed towards Tiger, I thought it superfluous. I’d have thought that Tiger would have known better, but I’ve been wrong before and will be again.

  • Woods Penalized but Can Still Play

    04/13/2013 6:56:16 PM PDT · 114 of 148
    par4 to centurion316
    I was using the word penalty as the original poster was, not as you are assuming as in a stroke penalty, but as a hardship. Poor choice of word.

    And, sorry, but it is entirely possible that you land in your own divot not closer to the hole and the ball is in play. That was exactly the point of many of the commentators before the decision was rendered.

  • Woods Penalized but Can Still Play

    04/13/2013 6:40:29 PM PDT · 109 of 148
    par4 to C. Edmund Wright
    No need to get snarky. I also disagree with the Supreme Court on Obamacare and the "scientists" on global warming. I guess you recommend going with the experts (Snarky response).

    I do disagree with the rules makers and would bet real money that if an average player on the tour pulled this off at one of the Euro Tour events and bragged about it, he'd be DQ'd faster than you could possibly imagine. "Superstars" get special considerations, but if Tiger wins there will be many who will not acknowledge the victory. I will be one of those, not that he will either know or care.

  • Woods Penalized but Can Still Play

    04/13/2013 5:50:09 PM PDT · 97 of 148
    par4 to C. Edmund Wright
    In this case, it really is better to keep one's mouth shut and appear a fool than speak and prove it.

    As I said in my first post on this, when notified by a television spectator of what they thought was a rules violation, the rules committee would assume that Tiger and his caddy knew that he should drop as close as possible to the original spot and assume that was what he did, therefore no penalty. When he later said that he delibrately moved 2 yards (his words), then the games changes.

    Can one really expect the rules committee to admit that they made an assumption the player and his caddy knew and followed the rule to the best of their ability; they just misidentified the original location? In fact, were I there watching I would also assume that they made a good faith effort to drop is the same spot from which the original shot was made (which can be easily identified if you place a tee or other marker at the spot when you go to examine your options). When Tiger admitted that he moved back 2 yards to give himself the right distance, he admitted that he does not understand the intent of the rule, to take the penalty shot from the "same" location as the original shot; same distance, same slope angle, same grain and so on. If the drop lands in your divot, that is another penalty.

    The real issue is, when this decision was made before the start of play today, the odds that Tiger would be in contention on Sunday were pretty low. Now, should he pull off a win, there will be an asterisk next to this victory that makes Roger Maris's 61 hr's asterisk look like a flea on an elephant in comparison.

  • Woods Penalized but Can Still Play

    04/13/2013 5:08:23 PM PDT · 90 of 148
    par4 to C. Edmund Wright
    We can agree to disagree. I had a "similar" circumstance years ago when playing with 3 friends in North Carolina. One of the other team (the daily pair really, at a one dollar skins game), put his drive on the pine straw that the course put next to the small trees lining the fairway and then muffed his second to the green into the water because below the straw was more sand than grass.

    Anyway, he wanted to drop less than a foot from his original lie, further from the green and in a striaght line which would have puy him on the fairway 1st cut, not the pine straw and sand. His argument was that he could drop in a line with his last shot, no closer to the hole which I believe that Tiger also assumed. However, both he and Tiger were wrong.

    Again, I have no dog in the fight, but the problem is not knowing the rules and failing to consult an expert when needed.

    Or learning that sometimes it is better to not do the interview. After all, as I said before, had he just said, I dropped it next to where I thought I hit the first shot fom, the issue would be over.

  • Woods Penalized but Can Still Play

    04/13/2013 1:31:33 PM PDT · 68 of 148
    par4 to C. Edmund Wright
    Had to butt in on this. I see it as two separate issues:

    1: The drop, as seen by the rules commitee after the fact; one could easily imagine that the player, having hit his ball into the hazard, looked at the three options available and decided to return to the spot from which the original stroke was taken. Without the player having left a marker (tee etc.), the rules officials made the correct decision that the player made his best effort to drop his ball as close as possible to where the original stroke was taken; and the replay did not prove otherwise.

    After all, there may have been multiple divots in the approximate area and the rules committee would assume that a professional player would make the best effort to hit from the same spot. No infraction, no additional penalty

    2) The player, after having looked at the 3 options available, decided to drop from the same spot that the original shot was taken and then decided that he could move further back on the same line using the available remedy in what would be option 2(in a line where the ball last crossed the hazard no lcoser to the hole etc.); thereby confusing two options.

    Now let's examine option 2, what really happened, if we change one little fact. Put the original lie 2' - 3' down the edge of a downslope on the fairway. Moving back 3' puts replay on a flat area. For the average golfer, that 3' back is the difference between a low screamer and an easy lob. Not so much for a professional, but we all play under the same rules. Moving the ball in the imaginary case I have described is a reason for a DQ.

    Had Tiger kept his mouth shut and said he played from where he thought his shot was, then the committee's decision would seem prescient. However, moving the drop spot to improve your chance of making a good shot is a violation of the rules that any professional player or caddy should never allow.

    Frankly, when I got in last night and saw the interview, I was shocked that the number one player in the world thought he could improve his lie on a penalty shot, because that's exactly what he did, no question about it. The rules committee made an awful ruling after they knew about the violation. They sould have asked him to withdraw and if he declined, then DQ'd him (and sent him back to Q school to learn the rules)

  • Andrew Cuomo: That gun law I signed turned out to be utterly unworkable, huh?

    03/21/2013 10:02:38 AM PDT · 23 of 37
    par4 to SeekAndFind
    And, by the way, will criminals be deterred from loading rounds 8, 9, and 10 into the magazine?

    What it should read:

    And, by the way, will criminals be created by loading rounds 8, 9, and 10 into the magazine?

  • Sixty miles - Three days...

    03/07/2013 12:25:53 PM PST · 17 of 27
    par4 to djf
    Succinct and to the point, well said sir.

    What, wha??

  • CNN Presents the Low-Information Take on Lauren Silberman's NFL Tryout

    03/05/2013 1:52:21 PM PST · 10 of 21
    par4 to kidd
    Two Words:

    Annika Sorenstam

    Dominant female golfer, not able to make the men's cut.