Posts by Partisan Gunslinger

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  • Tucker Carlson: Al Sharpton Helped Kill NYPD Cops By 'Whipping Up Race Hatred'

    12/22/2014 3:46:47 PM PST · 62 of 67
    Partisan Gunslinger to Laissez-faire capitalist

    The bible doesn’t blame the Romans so much for the execution of Jesus, but moreso the chief priests who lied and whipped up the crowd.

  • Pope Francis greets Curia for Christmas, and rips them to shreds

    12/22/2014 3:23:47 PM PST · 22 of 67
    Partisan Gunslinger to NYer

    Not bad until the last three.

  • For Advent: Why Don’t Catholics Read the Bible? (They Do!)

    12/20/2014 7:19:27 AM PST · 187 of 212
    Partisan Gunslinger to tioga
    I have been to protestant funeral services that barely mentioned God, let alone scripture. Yet, they criticize Catholics like this? Laughable.

    I don't think a funeral is a time to go into a full-blown religious sermon. People are paying their respects to the deceased and a lot of those people will be of a different religion or atheist. You don't fish for souls by throwing an anchor at them.

  • For Advent: Why Don’t Catholics Read the Bible? (They Do!)

    12/20/2014 7:12:32 AM PST · 186 of 212
    Partisan Gunslinger to allendale
    However with the exception of a few Protestant sects and almost no Evangelicals, most detractict Protestants do not think Catholics can be saved.

    The bible says for Catholics to "come out of her, my people".

    Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

    The Catholic laity are some of God's people. I think if the Catholic Church didn't allow certain lay Catholics to learn the truth then God's elect will have the time of their testimony and then the Millennium to bring these lay Catholics to salvation, and many, if not most, of these current Catholics will be saved.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/04/2014 12:29:51 PM PST · 1,044 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to Elsie
    There are no atheists in foxholes.

    The problem is for those fooled in the tribulation of antiChrist, they won't think they're in any foxholes:

    Dan 8:23 ¶ And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

    Dan 8:24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.

    Dan 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

    The antiChrist shall come in peacefully and prosperously.

    1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

    The antiChrist will bring peace and safety, all you have to do is worship him.

    Mat 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

    When the antiChrist comes there will seem to be an end to wars and rumours of wars. That's why it will be so easy to arrest some of the 7000, it will seem to the world that the 7000 will want to go back to the times of wars and rumours of wars. They will be arrested to be "de-programmed", as was said earlier on this thread.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/03/2014 11:44:33 AM PST · 1,040 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to Elsie
    I'll assume you didn't skip over the point on purpose, because you copied it here.Let me REpost it: There will be PLENTY of folks who know the Way, yet had not made the decision left behind.

    So the left behind quasi-Christians are skilled enough in the Word they can get up and convert those who aren't even Christian, even though no one had been able to convert them up until then, yet they haven't made their mind up about whether or not to believe in Jesus before the tribulation starts?

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/03/2014 11:22:57 AM PST · 1,037 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to Elsie
    You are a teacher of Israel...

    I'm not a teacher, I'm a discusser. Even the 7000 aren't necessarily teachers, the Holy Spirit will speak through them, the ones that are delivered up anyway, they won't premeditate what they will say.

    ...and yet do not know these things? There will be PLENTY of folks who know the Way, yet had not made the decision left behind. One in the field, one in the bed... Surely you've read these things?

    So the rapture has two classes of Christians, those that are too good for the tribulation and lifted into the clouds, and those that know but will be left behind to testify?

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/03/2014 11:16:59 AM PST · 1,036 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to Just mythoughts
    Good thing God changed Paul's name. Look what uproar Stephen caused by preaching the gospel. Acts 7 and then we read Acts 8:3 As for Saul, he made havock of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed them to prison. 4 Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word. That rapture doctrine brings out the best in people now does it not?

    It's really amazing, the licentiousness of people that you know have sat in a church for decades. Of course the problem is that most churches don't teach all of the bible, they have their favorites verses they go over and over. I never studied until my early thirties and I thought I was a good guy. Studying verse by verse showed me that the bible isn't only John 3:16, it teaches you when to confront and when not to confront, and by what rules to play by, and then I knew, all that time I thought I was a good guy I was actually a jerk. People who go to church but don't study verse by verse remind me of me in my twenties with their arrogance. And then add on quoting out of context, citing false sources, namecalling on no evidence, falling endlessly over a stumblingblock when an understanding of God's Word would remove the stumblingblock, laughing at the death of fellow Christians, obessession over PC and the rules of the Godless left, and trying to nail fellow Christians on the rules the left has laid down!

    As far as the rapture doctrine, you're right, and we haven't seen the worst yet, the arrests are coming, and the ones delivering God's men and women to death (Satan) I'm sure will be more arrogant than ever. But that's part of the plan. :^)

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/03/2014 10:38:15 AM PST · 1,035 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to redleghunter
    Dude, what you are weaving here makes no sense within the context of Israel defined in Romans 9-11. Also on the church “caught up” Paul tells us we are changed immediately:

    Yes, changed immediately at the seventh trump, no dead wave, no living wave.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/02/2014 3:30:13 PM PST · 1,024 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to Elsie

    So who are the ones arrested and who’s testimony brings many to the truth if all Christians are gone?

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/02/2014 3:16:37 PM PST · 1,019 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to Elsie
    Which was FIRST revealed... where?

    God knew the rapture doctrine would be a tool of Satan.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/02/2014 3:15:29 PM PST · 1,017 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to Elsie
    Is objectivity ONLY something that AGREES with you?

    When it's filled with terms to activate the PC police, no it's not objective.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/02/2014 3:14:21 PM PST · 1,015 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to Elsie
    How do you make the claim they are FALSE??

    They all start off that the Trinity is denied. Listen for an hour and you'll hear the Trinity.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/02/2014 3:12:51 PM PST · 1,013 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to redleghunter
    And you denied Paul was actually talking about unbelieving Israel.

    ?

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/02/2014 3:10:13 PM PST · 1,008 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to redleghunter
    But you denied the catching away (rapture) of the church. So now there is one?

    I think rapturists think only Christians are going to meet Jesus in the spirit. Nope all of us are going at the seventh trump, good, bad, ugly.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/02/2014 3:08:08 PM PST · 1,006 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to boatbums
    LOL! Oh, honey, I have plenty of other things to occupy my time than your incoherent theology regarding the end-times remnant. You may have mentioned a "relative to population" rationalization earlier, but then you went right back to your assertion of ONLY 7000 and even expressed hope you would be among them! I could go back over this thread and quote the number of times you insisted a finite number of 7000 - even when others said it would be far MORE than that - then admitted it could be more only to go right back to stating it was 7000 again, but I DO have a life! I'm sure you'd like nothing more than for me to just drop it, but you shouldn't expect to state something and not have to defend yourself against a challenge. This IS the Religion Forum after all. Here's a hint...if you misspeak, simply admit it. Don't double down. It only looks like desperation.

    The 7000 is an identifier. I don't know what else to tell you.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/02/2014 3:06:01 PM PST · 1,004 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to redleghunter
    This is getting quite bizarre. Romans 9-11 makes a clear distinction between spiritual and physical Israel and the Promises.

    And?

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/02/2014 3:04:34 PM PST · 1,002 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to boatbums

    Like I said, even Wikipedia won’t allow that unsubstantiated stuff on their website.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/02/2014 3:02:12 PM PST · 999 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to redleghunter
    Holy cow, Paul wrote those verses to disprove the rapture doctrine! The dead rise first because they're already there. Why would Jesus take the dead first, then the living if we're all going at the same time? He did say in the twinkling of an eye, no first wave, second wave. No, the dead are already there, then we the living that remain will go at the seventh trump, after the tribulation of antiChrist so that the test results will be in, so to speak.

    Mat 20:16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.

    God saved most of the best souls and most of the worst souls for this generation to go through Satan's tribulation, the best to stand for God, the worst to seal their fate.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/02/2014 2:48:34 PM PST · 996 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to boatbums
    How is it a stumbling block to me? The only one doing any "stumbling" here is, apparently, YOU. Reading through this thread someone would think you aren't sure about your claim WRT the 7000 elect your teacher Arnold Murray has you convinced you are a part of - though, because he has died, he no longer even is (ironic?). You have vacillated between "7000" being a literal number to it NOT being literal. All I'm trying to do is pin you down on what you REALLY believe - is there going to be ONLY 7000 that do not succumb to the lies of the antichrist or will it be many, many more of the remnant than 7000 - which IS what Scripture says. Can you finally come to a decision on this? That's all I have been seeking.

    Wow, I do believe you could hang on this the rest of your life. lol I first mentioned that it could be relative to population about 250 posts ago. I guess you missed it.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/02/2014 2:17:43 PM PST · 989 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to boatbums

    BTW, that’s the page Wikipedia deemed unsubstantiated and had it removed. That’s pretty bad when even liberal Wikipedia knows it’s BS. lol

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/02/2014 2:03:47 PM PST · 988 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to boatbums

    Well that was a whole lot of nothing. Nothing about Biola in there, and not objective either.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/02/2014 12:38:41 PM PST · 986 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to Elsie
    How do you make the claim they are FALSE??

    You make a habit out of quoting out of context.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/02/2014 12:36:51 PM PST · 985 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to boatbums
    Yeah, I know that, just like I know God's set apart remnant is not a mere 7000. So, it's literal when it says "7000" but not when it says "men"??? That's the point being made here in case you missed it.

    Boy, when you find a stumblingblock, you make it as big as a railcar. lol

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/02/2014 10:17:31 AM PST · 974 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to CatherineofAragon
    It looks like someone put the story on wikipedia and even wikipedia, as liberal as they are, removed it for being unsubstantiated.

    The best I can tell it's all from the same source, a guy from something called "coutercult" (slightly biased, I would say) claims he got it all from a receptionist at the chapel. Wow, receptionists are that informed, huh? lol

    I would think that this would have sparked investigations from the big players, 60 minutes and the like, but looks like no one except the countercult guy has any information on it.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/02/2014 10:02:12 AM PST · 973 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to CatherineofAragon
    As has been pointed out, you have a habit of trying to substitute one word/concept for another and hoping it will be accepted as the same thing. Once again, it's not going to work. An honorary degree given by a university is one thing. A person falsely claiming to have a degree (whether honorary or earned) is quite another. Murray claimed to have a degree from an accredited university after writing a dissertation on the book of Daniel. He said the degree came from Biola University in California. Biola University denies ever having a student named Arnold Murray, and, in fact, did not have a doctorate program during the timeframe in question. How can you continue to excuse this lie?

    I went ahead and did a search. I can't find anything about this other than from false websites that also say Shepherd's Chapel denies the Trinity, so no credible website has any information on this the best I can tell. What objective source are you getting this from?

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/02/2014 5:27:20 AM PST · 971 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to Elsie
    they were both righteous before God,

    So "perfect in his generations" means "righteous"?

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/02/2014 5:23:15 AM PST · 970 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to Elsie
    Then we which are alive and remain...

    Christians, heathen, atheists, everyone. This is the seventh trump.

    ...shall be caught up together with them in the clouds,...

    Clouds of people, not the weather clouds...

    ...to meet the Lord in the air:...

    Look at the word "air" in the Strong's, it's spirit. We will be in the spirit.

    ...and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

    No more flesh.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/02/2014 4:48:46 AM PST · 964 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to boatbums
    If, as a few are saying here, Romans 11:4 is a prophecy of the 7000 that will not fall for the lie of the antichrist and that number “7000” is literal, then I guess the part about it being “men” is literal, too? So, we women won't have a chance???

    Women are always included.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/02/2014 4:46:41 AM PST · 963 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to Elsie
    Have you ever seen these verses? What do they mean to you? Luke 1 5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth. 6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

    What has that got to do with being perfect in generations?

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/02/2014 4:44:00 AM PST · 962 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to redleghunter
    Oh the “great deceiver” is at work today. I’m looking at some of the “fruit” of such with Murray’s heretical theories.

    The great deceiver has been at work in this earth age since the garden of Eden at least. Soon you will be able to actually see him and hear him. He will fool everyone but the 7000.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/02/2014 4:41:40 AM PST · 961 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to redleghunter
    Murray made a prediction after the Mt St Helens eruption. It did not come true. Prophets make predictions and his did not come about.

    Prophets don't make predictions, they make prophecies.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/02/2014 4:39:52 AM PST · 960 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to redleghunter
    So Murray has no transcripts of his sermons for me to examine? Sorry no Dish. But I can read transcripts somewhere?

    I'm sure he does. I've always had him on my local station so there has never been a reason for me to look for them on the internet. I'm sure he's on in your area on one of the local stations in the morning.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/02/2014 4:36:35 AM PST · 959 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to redleghunter
    Ok so the Israelis are not “Kenites” as Murray asserted in your view.

    Of course Arnold does not say Israelis are Kenites. Now when you look at the two baskets of figs, the bad figs were prophesied to inhabit many nations, so there is some in many nations. Jesus got most of His disciples from around the Sea of Galilee. Those were very good figs and those people never left the area, even when the Romans sacked Jerusalem.

    By your answer, then Romans 11 applies to real Jews and Israelites. So then to be in the 7000 you would hail from one of the 12 tribes of Israel. Why didn’t you state you were of Hebrew origin? Or were you approaching Romans 9-11 metaphorically as opposed to literally?

    Where do you get the idea that the elect have to be Israelite? I have no doubt Baruch was of the elect, and he was a gentile. Regardless, since the crucifixion all that believe in Jesus are of Abraham.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/02/2014 4:20:35 AM PST · 958 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to redleghunter
    If the big secret no one knows but Murrayites is the antichrist is from Satan,...

    The antiChrist isSatan.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/02/2014 4:17:08 AM PST · 957 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to Elsie
    Says the fella who seems to have a hard time posting 'proof'.

    Proof of what?

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    12/02/2014 4:15:55 AM PST · 956 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to CatherineofAragon
    We see that. Your so-called man of God doesn't need to meet any standards. You even excuse lying. You should be ashamed of yourself.

    Universities give out honorary doctorates all the time.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    11/30/2014 4:38:16 PM PST · 907 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to boatbums
    Didn't think you could. And, no, racist and cultist are NOT the same difference.

    Same in the eyes of the moderators. The purpose was to silence disagreement.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    11/30/2014 4:36:59 PM PST · 906 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to boatbums
    All anyone needs to do is read over this thread and all the times you kept INSISTING Romans 11:4 specifically said only 7000 and your assertion that was what Murray taught.

    Romans 11:4 does say 7000. As I said way back on this thread, it could be in the hundreds of thousands. The 7000 number is just an identifier. It is a stumblingblock to you.

    Every time you were disputed by Scripture - and there were many - you kept going back to that number and how "what once was will be again". I don't think I'm the one tripping over anything here. It's no skin off my nose whether you believe me or not. All I've been trying to do is say what I believe and why I believe it. You are the one who seems to be unable to tolerate disagreement here and who imagines he is being persecuted.

    I've called no one a racist, cult member, a white supremacist, an incinerator of children, or a server of koolaid, yet all of those have been hurled or insinuated at me on no evidence. Yeah, I'd call that persecution. lol I'd say with all the name calling from your side it is you all that can't handle disagreement.

    You've more than amply set up stumbling blocks of your own and prove with every subsequent comment you don't really know how to avoid tripping over them.

    Name one.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    11/30/2014 4:27:52 PM PST · 905 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to CatherineofAragon
    No, you didn't. You said you'd never heard of it, and when I told you it was easily found online, said, "Okaaaay." So far you've dismissed everything folks have offered you about your leader. What reason do I have to think you'd respond differently this time? Google it if you want the truth.

    I don't really care. He's studied for 60 years, that's a doctor to me whether a university says so or not.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    11/30/2014 3:28:41 PM PST · 896 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to boatbums
    Now "it COULD be"? That has been our argument all along - that God ALWAYS has a remnant! It has been you, parroting Arnold Murray, who continues to assert it will only be 7000.

    Arnold has also said it doesn't have to be exactly 7000. The "7000" identifies the people we're talking about, the very elect. You let these little things become such stumblingblocks to you.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    11/30/2014 3:23:09 PM PST · 894 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to boatbums
    Now "it COULD be"? That has been our argument all along - that God ALWAYS has a remnant! It has been you, parroting Arnold Murray, who continues to assert it will only be 7000. Finally some clarity.

    If it's so important to you, why don't you remember me saying it on this thread? The point is that the whole world will fall for antiChrist, except the 7000.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    11/30/2014 3:20:38 PM PST · 893 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to boatbums
    Yes, I do. I also know WHY I believe it and can prove it by Scripture. What's one more rabbit trail on a thread 800+ posts long?

    Believe what you wish. I'd be careful throwing that "cult" name around though when the rapture doctrine didn't come around until the 1800s.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    11/30/2014 3:18:22 PM PST · 891 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to boatbums
    Actually, no, it doesn't say that. This has been explained to you already with numerous Bible verses to prove you are wrong to think it does. Ignore it if you wish. You can claim Arnold Murray doesn't "decide" who are among that 7000, but you yourself already claimed it WOULD be people who followed Murray, including yourself.

    No, I said in those 7000, there would be a lot of students who learned from him since he is the only one that teaches how to recognize the antiChrist.

    Show me where I did that, whiner.

    Racist, cult, same difference.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    11/30/2014 9:58:59 AM PST · 883 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to Cvengr
    Actually, the remnant of 7000 refers to 1Kings 19:18, which happened in the past. The Romans 11 context refers simply to a modern day remnant, exact number not specified in that passage.

    Yeah, it could be any number relative to the population today. I said earlier on this thread that even if it's in the hundreds of thousands, it's not much in a world of 7 billion.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    11/30/2014 9:56:44 AM PST · 882 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to redleghunter
    Using your own metric of "verse by verse, chapter by chapter, book by book" where else in the NT do we see clear evidence of a 7000 number of stand outs?

    I'd say Matthew chapter 10 is dealing with some of the 7000. Some of the 7000 will be arrested and brought up to testify. Many will be saved through their testimony. Maybe some of you who don't believe in the 7000 will hear the testimony and will remember this thread and come to your senses regarding the great deceiver.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    11/30/2014 9:34:42 AM PST · 880 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to Elsie
    So you EXCUSE false prophecy as 'every body does it' and then condemn PCness?

    A false prediction, not a false prophecy. We've all done it.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    11/30/2014 9:33:36 AM PST · 879 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to Elsie
    You've heard it now. The facts are laid out; so you can either 'accept them or reject them'.

    No proof was posted.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    11/30/2014 9:32:26 AM PST · 878 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to Elsie
    He'd have to get a new screenname. I think he likes the one he has.

    It's from Bob Novak.

  • Did Adam and Eve Really Exist?

    11/30/2014 9:30:46 AM PST · 877 of 1,046
    Partisan Gunslinger to Elsie
    ...and you did NOT reject them; but said they were PREFERED.

    quote out of context much? I said preferred over political correctness.