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Posts by Petrosius

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  • At the name of Jesus

    06/23/2018 12:43:29 PM PDT · 43 of 43
    Petrosius to aMorePerfectUnion
    Saving faith is entrusting oneself to Christ alone. His payment, His sacrifice. His fulfillment of the Law. His perfection.

    And never your own payment, works, worthiness, nor effort.

    Yes, by grace alone; how Catholic! I would like to point out a serious misunderstanding among Protestants about what Catholic believe is the relationship between faith and works. Catholics do not believe that we must add the merits of our own works to the saving work of Jesus Christ. How does a Catholic believe that he is saved? By asking for it. Salvation first comes through Baptism; no good works are required. After Baptism, if a person falls back into serious sin, then he restored to grace by repentance and and confession; he just asks for it! No good works are required. (For now let us hold off on the question of the nature and necessity of baptism and confession. This is a different question. The question at hand is the relationship between grace and works.) The good works that Catholics say are necessary for salvation are what is produced after being justified, the product of what you would call "saving faith," if I understand you correctly.

    All saving faith results in a new birth, and the new life of Christ within. It is the expression of His life that produces fruit. It is the Spirit that testifies to the soul of every true believer, that he belongs to Him.

    And this we Catholics call Sanctifying Grace.

    “For, as you know, there are many who claim faith in Jesus Christ who continue to live in the sins that Paul warns that will exclude us from the kingdom of God.”

    Ah, here I take it that you mean Roman Catholics, but of course it equally applies to Orthodox and all others.

    You are not saying that there are not also Protestants who claim faith in Jesus Christ and who continue in lives of sin, are you?

    We also know that not all who call on the name of Christ are His.

    The wheat grows with the tares. God separates them at harvest-time.

    So there can be no assurance that what the faith we proclaim is actually saving faith?

  • At the name of Jesus

    06/23/2018 10:54:17 AM PDT · 39 of 43
    Petrosius to aMorePerfectUnion
    Those who have saving faith go on to live fruitful lives.

    And what is "saving faith" compared to "faith alone?" Is faith that does not produce works saving faith? For, as you know, there are many who claim faith in Jesus Christ who continue to live in the sins that Paul warns that will exclude us from the kingdom of God. Are they saved?

  • At the name of Jesus

    06/23/2018 9:54:56 AM PDT · 32 of 43
    Petrosius to aMorePerfectUnion
    All these outward signs, instead of the clear message of the Gospel of Grace and assurance of salvation.

    Yes, assurance of salvation:

    For you were called for freedom, brothers. But do not use this freedom as an opportunity for the flesh; rather, serve one another through love. For the whole law is fulfilled in one statement, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” But if you go on biting and devouring one another, beware that you are not consumed by one another. I say, then: live by the Spirit and you will certainly not gratify the desire of the flesh. For the flesh has desires against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; these are opposed to each other, so that you may not do what you want. But if you are guided by the Spirit, you are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are obvious: immorality, impurity, licentiousness, idolatry, sorcery, hatreds, rivalry, jealousy, outbursts of fury, acts of selfishness, dissensions, factions, occasions of envy, drinking bouts, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. (Galatians 5:13-21)
    So much for the "assurance of salvation" for those who continue in sin. By grace alone, yes; but not without works.
    What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister has nothing to wear and has no food for the day, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, keep warm, and eat well,” but you do not give them the necessities of the body, what good is it? So also faith of itself, if it does not have works, is dead. Indeed someone may say, “You have faith and I have works.” Demonstrate your faith to me without works, and I will demonstrate my faith to you from my works. You believe that God is one. You do well. Even the demons believe that and tremble. Do you want proof, you ignoramus, that faith without works is useless? Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered his son Isaac upon the altar? You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by the works. Thus the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,” and he was called “the friend of God.” See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. And in the same way, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she welcomed the messengers and sent them out by a different route? For just as a body without a spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead. (James 2:14-26)
    And please, do not go quoting other scripture passages without addressing what both Paul and James state clearly here.
  • CNN, MSNBC cut away from Trump event with 'Angel Families'

    06/22/2018 2:35:35 PM PDT · 11 of 44
    Petrosius to E. Pluribus Unum

    Time to break up the networks and redistribute the broadcast licenses across the political spectrum.

  • Rolling Stone Sees End of Democracy at Trump's Duluth Rally

    06/22/2018 10:17:44 AM PDT · 13 of 54
    Petrosius to PJ-Comix

    I guess that to the Left it is the “End of Democracy” when the majority does not agree with the Left.

  • Let’s stop managing this (foreign) invasion and start blocking it

    06/22/2018 8:26:23 AM PDT · 8 of 22
    Petrosius to E. Pluribus Unum

    Only entertain pleas for asylum for those who enter legally at a regular port of entry. The pleas of those caught entering illegally should be summerly dismissed as invalid.

  • Immigration Advocates Say President Trump's Executive Order Creates Even More Problems(its illegal)

    06/21/2018 6:24:28 AM PDT · 13 of 43
    Petrosius to sickoflibs
    Simple fix: just say that the minors are not detained but are allowed to stay with their parents.
  • white-house-will-propose-merging-education-labor-departments

    06/20/2018 5:42:58 PM PDT · 23 of 56
    Petrosius to GotMojo

    A Department of Labor and Education still gives the federal government a role in education. Eliminate it! Better yet, get back to the proper role of the federal government and eliminate the departments of Agriculture, Commerce, Labor, Health and Human Services, Housing and Urban Development, Transportation, Energy, Education, and Veterans Affairs. Any agencies that need to be retained can be put under the Department of the Interior.

  • Nancy Pelosi: ‘Zero Tolerance’ for GOP-Backed Immigration Bills

    06/20/2018 6:16:47 AM PDT · 10 of 25
    Petrosius to ChicagoConservative27

    The President is required to enforce the law as is. If we were to grant the President the ability to change the law by mere stroke of the pen, then we have created a dictator and have lost our constitutional republic.

  • Professor required students to praise Allah, remove shoes before entering office

    06/18/2018 9:08:05 AM PDT · 18 of 34
    Petrosius to yoe

    “Bismillah,” that’s pronounced “Praised be Jesus Christ,” right?

  • Matteo Salvini, Italy’s Interior Minister refused two more migrant boats to dock in Italian ports.

    06/18/2018 9:04:25 AM PDT · 5 of 39
    Petrosius to caww

    Lifeline and Seefuchs are not “rescue” boats. They are a coordinated part of the scheme for illegal immigration and should be prosecuted.

  • Canadians are one in a million -- while waiting for medical treatment

    06/11/2018 11:17:50 AM PDT · 38 of 44
    Petrosius to Simon Green

    Per capita, that would be like 10 million in the U.S.

  • Law Enforcement Think Tank Gives 9 Key Recommendations On How To Prevent 'Gun Violence'

    06/11/2018 5:24:32 AM PDT · 32 of 75
    Petrosius to from occupied ga
    Law enforcement thinks a tank gives the keys recommendation on how to prevent gun violence? Cool:

  • The Barbary Pirates: Islamic Terrorism and America’s First Military Victory

    06/10/2018 11:11:48 AM PDT · 7 of 10
    Petrosius to rktman

    I thought that our first military victory was the Revolutionary War.

  • ...A Concern for the Protestant “Solos”: Sola Fide, Sola Scriptura, Sola Gratia

    06/10/2018 11:08:44 AM PDT · 518 of 779
    Petrosius to daniel1212
    Faith with works ≠ works.

    Unfortunately, I am leaving for a trip for one week and cannot get more involved in this at the moment.

  • Turkey condemns Austria's 'racist' move to close seven mosques

    06/10/2018 3:21:50 AM PDT · 40 of 47
    Petrosius to ebb tide

    And how free are Christians to open and operate churches in Turkey?

  • Coaches, Parents Question Policy For High School Transgender Athletes

    06/10/2018 3:02:23 AM PDT · 10 of 51
    Petrosius to Libloather

    Can we just admit what everyone knows but are afraid to say: these “transgender girls” are boys.

  • ...A Concern for the Protestant “Solos”: Sola Fide, Sola Scriptura, Sola Gratia

    06/08/2018 6:46:14 PM PDT · 189 of 779
    Petrosius to boatbums
    Let me get this it your contention that when Paul said we are saved by grace through faith and not by works, he was only talking about the works of obeying the Mosaic law?


  • ...A Concern for the Protestant “Solos”: Sola Fide, Sola Scriptura, Sola Gratia

    06/08/2018 10:45:34 AM PDT · 77 of 779
    Petrosius to Luircin
    Grace through faith, not of works. No way around that blatant proclamation. Romans 11 adds that if works are added to salvation, it is no longer by grace.

    The "works" addressed in Chapter 11 of Romans are the "works of the Law", i.e. circumcision and the Mosaic Law. Romans must be understood as an elaboration of what Paul says in Chapter 2:12-29:

    All who sin outside the law will also perish without reference to it, and all who sin under the law will be judged in accordance with it. For it is not those who hear the law who are just in the sight of God; rather, those who observe the law will be justified. For when the Gentiles who do not have the law by nature observe the prescriptions of the law, they are a law for themselves even though they do not have the law. They show that the demands of the law are written in their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even defend them on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge people’s hidden works through Christ Jesus.

    Now if you call yourself a Jew and rely on the law and boast of God and know his will and are able to discern what is important since you are instructed from the law, and if you are confident that you are a guide for the blind and a light for those in darkness, that you are a trainer of the foolish and teacher of the simple, because in the law you have the formulation of knowledge and truth—then you who teach another, are you failing to teach yourself? You who preach against stealing, do you steal? You who forbid adultery, do you commit adultery? You who detest idols, do you rob temples? You who boast of the law, do you dishonor God by breaking the law? For, as it is written, “Because of you the name of God is reviled among the Gentiles.” Circumcision, to be sure, has value if you observe the law; but if you break the law, your circumcision has become uncircumcision. Again, if an uncircumcised man keeps the precepts of the law, will he not be considered circumcised? Indeed, those who are physically uncircumcised but carry out the law will pass judgment on you, with your written law and circumcision, who break the law. One is not a Jew outwardly. True circumcision is not outward, in the flesh. Rather, one is a Jew inwardly, and circumcision is of the heart, in the spirit, not the letter; his praise is not from human beings but from God.

    Paul, in Romans, is addressing the demands of the Judaizers that the Gentiles must be circumcised and obey the Mosaic Law. He is not pitting works against faith. If you are to believe in the entirety of Scripture then believe what Paul says here. Everything that he writes in Romans after this is an explanation of this.
  • ...A Concern for the Protestant “Solos”: Sola Fide, Sola Scriptura, Sola Gratia

    06/08/2018 9:57:17 AM PDT · 48 of 779
    Petrosius to Manly Warrior
    With all due respect to the Monsignor, Jesus had words for the Hebrew scribes and Pharisees and Sadducees, the men who interpreted the scriptures in Jesus day.

    Then I take it that you, as well as all Protestant ministers, will refrain from interpreting Scripture for others and leave Catholics to interpret it for themselves in accord with what the Church has always taught. The truth is that Protestants are just as bound to their own traditions of interpretation as any Catholic.