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Posts by Quiet Man Jr.

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  • True Liberty and Justice for All Ages

    07/05/2008 9:20:06 AM PDT · 1 of 1
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  • (Virginans) Bob Marshall for U.S. Senate

    02/23/2008 7:56:22 PM PST · 6 of 8
    Quiet Man Jr. to JSDude1

    JSDude1: “This guy seems to be a genuine Conservative, unlike many who pass themselves out as such these days..

    I think I’ll donate to his campaign as I went to College in Virginia (Normal Virgina-AKA the mountainous midsection).”

    Yes, he’s good. REALLY pro-life. He also fought and continues fighting the abusive driver fines that got everyone so upset. Virginians can get fined thousands for mere traffic infringements. Even the liberal local press is looking forward to him against Gilmore because Marshall’s got personality. Please rally your friends in the commonwealth.

  • (Virginans) Bob Marshall for U.S. Senate

    02/23/2008 7:05:21 PM PST · 1 of 8
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  • How the Religious Right lost its ‘Religion’, lost its way and went wrong

    02/16/2008 11:48:07 AM PST · 29 of 38
    Quiet Man Jr. to JSDude1

    Amen, JSDude1.

    Deacon Fournier is longwinded, but he got the fundamental point right. I think he’s frustrated that so many public Catholics are endorsing ESCR candidates despite the fact that the Catholic Church has been unfailing in its defense of innocent persons.

    First, we had Paul Weyrich, Laura Ingraham and Sen. Rick Santorum endorsing Gov. Romney, Mr. Embryonic Stem Cell Research.

    Now we have “no exceptions” Sen. Brownback making exceptions for McCain. Gov. Frank Keating and Austin Ruse of C-FAM are also among the bogus group Catholics for McCain. There are others too, I just can’t recall the list this split second.

    However, in the U.S. Senate’s record on S. 5, the
    proposal to fund embryonic stem cell research with our tax dollars, McCain voted for it:

    We know that Congress will pass that evil bill again, but McCain would not veto it like President Bush did. Yet both Presidents Bush are telling us that McCain is a true conservative and pro-life.

    So, what the hell? Why are some public Catholics selling out? Church doctrine says that if we are offered 2 anti-life candidates, we may choose the better between them. But we are not allowed to endorse or campaign for McCain or any other ESCR, euthanasia or abortion candidate.

    I feel betrayed by Catholics for McCain. Paul Weyrich did come to his senses and he’s now endorsing Huckabee.

    In honor of JSDude1, a little Scripture:
    Then Jesus said to His disciples, “If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross and follow Me. For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it; but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it. For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul? For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds.”
    Matthew 16:24-27

  • How the Religious Right lost its ‘Religion’, lost its way and went wrong

    02/15/2008 4:53:00 PM PST · 1 of 38
    Quiet Man Jr.
  • [McCain warning] Republican Candidates Mike Huckabee and Ron Paul Lead Pro-Life Rallies:

    01/25/2008 6:33:07 PM PST · 1 of 44
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  • Abortion in Croatia is Down 90% Since 1989 Thanks to Strong Catholic Bishops

    12/19/2007 6:59:27 PM PST · 15 of 17
    Quiet Man Jr. to sr4402

    “Do not the Catholic Priest in America preach their faith? Then what is the difference?? I really want to know what they did that was different. 90% is a big change, so I think there is a lot more to the story and the story needs to come out to defeat abortion in other countries.

    General platitudes may be at the base of it, but the success must be propagated.”

    Hey sr4402, there is nothing platitudenous about supposing the priests live and preach their faith.

    God doesn’t ask much. He asks to obey the commandments and love one another as we love ourselves. There’s nothing shallow about that. If a priest is faithful and holy, he can change many lives. Most likely, they are teaching pro-life reality too.

    Like I said, O’Brien seems to get it. Read his part of the interview again.

  • Abortion Poll Finds Americans' Attitudes Moving in Pro-Life Direction

    12/18/2007 4:56:09 PM PST · 18 of 20
    Quiet Man Jr. to Quiet Man Jr.

    Oops, that’s principle of double effect ;-I

  • Abortion Poll Finds Americans' Attitudes Moving in Pro-Life Direction

    12/18/2007 3:49:11 PM PST · 17 of 20
    Quiet Man Jr. to Lucius Cornelius Sulla

    Lucius Cornelius Sulla says, “Clearly they also support it if the life of the mother is severely endangered, which is the Catholic Church position.”

    Lucius, you are mistaken. The Church supports abortion in no case. Here are some sections from the Cathechism:

    2271 Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion, that is to say, abortion willed either as an end or a means, is gravely contrary to the moral law:

    You shall not kill the embryo by abortion and shall not cause the newborn to perish.

    God, the Lord of life, has entrusted to men the noble mission of safeguarding life, and men must carry it out in a manner worthy of themselves. Life must be protected with the utmost care from the moment of conception: abortion and infanticide are abominable crimes.

    2272 Formal cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense. The Church attaches the canonical penalty of excommunication to this crime against human life. “A person who procures a completed abortion incurs excommunication latae sententiae,” “by the very commission of the offense,” and subject to the conditions provided by Canon Law. The Church does not thereby intend to restrict the scope of mercy. Rather, she makes clear the gravity of the crime committed, the irreparable harm done to the innocent who is put to death, as well as to the parents and the whole of society.

    2274 Since it must be treated from conception as a person, the embryo must be defended in its integrity, cared for, and healed, as far as possible, like any other human being.

    Prenatal diagnosis is morally licit, “if it respects the life and integrity of the embryo and the human fetus and is directed toward its safe guarding or healing as an individual. . . . It is gravely opposed to the moral law when this is done with the thought of possibly inducing an abortion, depending upon the results: a diagnosis must not be the equivalent of a death sentence.”

    2322 From its conception, the child has the right to life. Direct abortion, that is, abortion willed as an end or as a means, is a “criminal” practice (GS 27 § 3), gravely contrary to the moral law. The Church imposes the canonical penalty of excommunication for this crime against human life.

    In short, Catholic moral theology says that a physcian or healthcare worker should try to presevre both mother and child. However, if the child dies due to some uncontrollable circumstance, we understand this as the principal of double effect, so the attending physcian/healthcare worker isn’t guilty of murder.

  • Abortion in Croatia is Down 90% Since 1989 Thanks to Strong Catholic Bishops

    12/18/2007 3:28:34 PM PST · 11 of 17
    Quiet Man Jr. to sr4402

    sr4402 asks, “Please, what exactly did the Bishops say or do that turned the situation around?”

    Apparently, they and other priests lived and preached their faith. I like O’Brien’s analysis. It seems wherever Catholics are persecuted, the faith is considered precious and numerous men answer to religious vocations. Mother Teresa said that in the USA we suffer spiritual poverty. She was right. So, to Catholics and non-Catholics alike, let’s pray for all people to know truth and respond accordingly - all for the greater glory of God.

    Merry Christmas!

  • Abortion in Croatia is Down 90% Since 1989 Thanks to Strong Catholic Bishops

    12/17/2007 10:32:04 PM PST · 1 of 17
    Quiet Man Jr.
    Calling all bishops ... just imagine what would happen in America if ALL Catholic bishops led the pro-life cause!
  • Abortion foes take new course: 'personhood'

    12/10/2007 6:01:12 PM PST · 18 of 20
    Quiet Man Jr. to Mark was here

    Mark wrote: “What is “Personhood?” a politically corect non-gender specific way to avoid the “man” part of the word “human”? Folks who let the enemey define it’s terms have lost haff the battle.

    An individual human life begins at conception, as the flame of life is passed into him.”

    Snuffing out the flame as a lifestyle choice, is wrong.

    I support what they are trying to do, I just don’t like the term “Personhood””

    The term “personhood” or “person” is not PC. It comes from pagan and Christian metaphysics. A person is defined by the powers of reason and will. Three kinds of beings are persons: God, angels and humans. Furthermore, if a person has Down syndrome (which can and usually does limit his/her rational powers), he/she is still a person. The limitation of his/her powers is not essential, it is accidental, like race or hair color.

    The statement by someone else that “life is a continuum, but personhood is not” is false. Our nature is eternal. Eternity, whether it ends up being heaven or hell, is granted only to persons (God, angels, human beings). So the continuum of eternity is predicated on one’s nature, i.e., personhood.

  • Abortion foes take new course: 'personhood'

    12/09/2007 6:18:53 PM PST · 12 of 20
    Quiet Man Jr. to The_Reader_David

    “In Italy, IVF is carried out by fertilizing and implanting one egg, and repeating as necessary.”

    We’re not talking about chickens here. These are not fertilzed eggs, they are human embryos which are human persons.

  • Bing would balk at offkey Christmas "Noelle"

    12/07/2007 5:31:46 PM PST · 1 of 5
    Quiet Man Jr.
    I saw it. Bad writing and acting. If that's not enough, the story pissed me off because it seems anti-Christ and anti-Catholic.
  • Taking Exception: Standing in the Way of Stem Cell Research [pro-death]

    12/06/2007 12:41:51 PM PST · 1 of 6
    Quiet Man Jr.
    Thomson is one of the researchers who developed the new method in the opening praragraph, but he's an embryonic researcher too. He's pushing for our tax dollars to fund ESCR.
  • [National Right to Life] The Stephen Douglas of the 2008 race

    11/29/2007 8:44:34 PM PST · 42 of 46
    Quiet Man Jr. to dangus

    dangus says: “No, Jill doesn’t know what the hell she is talking about, and apparently has never read a single bloody thing about Abraham Lincoln or Steven Douglas.

    Lincoln absolutely took a State’s-Rights view on slavery; it’s only a bunch of confederate hicks trying to justify their ancestors’ treachery and abominations that say otherwise. But Lincoln and the Confederate slave-holders both knew that the plantation system would be doomed if decent, Christian Americans ever took a very deep look at the institution of slavery.

    Thompson’s answers are nearly Lincoln’s verbatim. And I suspect that’s by design.”

    Hmm. I’d like to see that Lincoln/Thompson parallel dialog. By Fred’s logic, Abe should’ve kept the Emancipation Proclamation to himself.

    It’s valid to fight on all fronts; the states, federal legislation and the courts. How about a presidential emancipation proclamation for the unborn? Robert George hinted at that:

  • [National Right to Life] The Stephen Douglas of the 2008 race

    11/29/2007 7:39:10 AM PST · 1 of 46
    Quiet Man Jr.
    Jill nailed it.
  • Huckabee Says Abortion Not for States

    11/19/2007 7:36:20 PM PST · 206 of 213
    Quiet Man Jr. to Gondring

    “Perhaps that’s why my Pro-Choice Liberal Democrat friend is so supportive of him. He doesn’t seem to care about the Constitution or Federalism.

    By his (il)logic, why isn’t all murder a Federal crime?

    Does he really not understand the American system, or does he just not care?”

    A human life amendment to the U.S. Constitution declaring personhood from fertilization until natural death doesn’t violate states’ rights since it would be in line with the 14th Amendment. Huckabee is right on this point; he upholds the RNC platform and goal too.

    He did, however, miss the problem with the SCOTUS decision on partial birth abortion. The court upheld the ban (which isn’t really a ban because it has exceptions) and Kennedy instructs abortionists how to get around the ban with other diabolical methods.

  • Terri Schiavo Was Not Brain Dead

    11/19/2007 6:55:22 PM PST · 47 of 77
    Quiet Man Jr. to BritExPatInFla

    BritExPatInFla wrote, “’Brain Dead’ was a stupid and inaccurate phrase to use. Persistent Vegitative State is a much better description of what this poor shell of a woman was at the time she was finally allowed to rest in peace.”

    Terri was neither brain dead nor PVS. It is metaphysically impossible for human beings to become vegetables. Like the rest of us, no matter what her abilities or disabilities, Terri was and is in a persistent human state, she is persistently a human being. Before she was killed, doctors diagnosed her mental powers as MCS, i.e., in a minimally conscious state.

  • Backing Thompson: Human Life and Political Reality

    11/16/2007 5:03:11 PM PST · 31 of 31
    Quiet Man Jr. to EternalVigilance

    “Except for the fact that you neglected Alan Keyes as the most solid pro-life choice of all.

    He was the only candidate standing with our friends in CO who are working for the Personhood Amendment. Did you notice?”

    Indeed I did, EV. Sorry, I forgot about that.

  • [Cardinal] O'Malley draws line with Democrats

    11/16/2007 4:45:11 PM PST · 28 of 108
    Quiet Man Jr. to Eagles2003

    C’mon now, Eagles2003. You’re making excuses in your own indiscernible code. Punishing God because some mortals may have disappointed you isn’t going to cut it on Judgment Day. Return to the sacraments and you will find indescribable happiness.

  • Backing Thompson: Human Life and Political Reality

    11/16/2007 4:27:56 PM PST · 26 of 31
    Quiet Man Jr. to Politicalmom

    “That’s a lie.
    He says he will support the platform. He thinks that overturning Roe V Wade is the best way to go, rather than
    trying for an unpassable amendment.
    Millions of us agree.”

    Sadly, it isn’t a lie. Hear for yourself from Fred’s own mouth:

    Of course no amendment will pass unless we try. Therefore, the good pro-lifers in Colorado are trying, despite the millions of naysayers you purportedly represent :-)

  • Backing Thompson: Human Life and Political Reality

    11/15/2007 5:09:52 PM PST · 24 of 31
    Quiet Man Jr. to Politicalmom

    Politcalmom wrote: “Voted with Helms, Thurmond, Santorum and Inhofe against allowing coverage of abortion under the Federal employees’ health insurance policies in cases where it is medically necessary -"; along with Thompson’s entire record, I guess. But, Politcalmom, what does that have to do with his latest campaign promises—or threats?

    He’s against the RNC’s pro-life platform. That says it all.

  • [Cardinal] O'Malley draws line with Democrats

    11/15/2007 4:41:56 PM PST · 1 of 108
    Quiet Man Jr.
  • Faith in a Winning Message

    11/14/2007 9:54:35 PM PST · 1 of 7
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  • Backing Thompson: Human Life and Political Reality

    11/14/2007 9:39:27 PM PST · 21 of 31
    Quiet Man Jr. to 2ndDivisionVet

    The right to life is not an either/or matter. Fred Thompson is not pro-life and judging from the National Right to Life Committee’s endorsement of him, neither are they.

    If the NRLC were pro-life, they would have endorsed Brownback (prior to his withdrawal) or Tancredo or Hunter.

    Who are these people that determine “electability”? Give me a break. For decades the National Right to Life Committee has been telling everyone that the country isn’t ready to outlaw abortion. Hmmmm, how would they know? They’ve never tried. Yet if they directed every single one of their state chapters to work for legal declaration of personhood from fertilization-natural death, that would trump Roe. So we have to do it without them in addition to demanding a real pro-life platform and candidate from the RNC. Tell the RNC your $$$ depends on it.

  • Bella Begins with a Bang

    11/08/2007 8:20:47 PM PST · 23 of 24
    Quiet Man Jr. to Fairview

    “Yes, I understand it’s not depressing, but it sounds unappealing. It has to be better explained and better publicized.”

    It’s not depressing—it’s uplifting. Try this from Celebrate Life:

    “In this film, Nina, a single waitress played by Tammy Blanchard, finds out right before going to work that she’s pregnant. At work, Nina gets another shock and it looks like her life is falling apart. Suddenly, however, the unassuming chef José, played by Eduardo Verastegui, comes to her rescue and the adventure begins. After having worked with him day after day, she finds out who this man really is.

    “The cast is outstanding. In addition to Blanchard and Verastegui, Bella features Manny Perez, Angelica Aragon, Jaime Tirelli, Ramon Rodriguez, Ali Landry, Sophie Nyweide and other fine actors.

    “Words cannot prepare us for the power of love, so I preface mine by saying that this film transcends all expectations. That’s why songwriters Alejandro Sanz and Jon Foreman, lead singer of Switchfoot, donated music to Metanoia Films.

    “See Bella. Your eyes will be captivated. Your heart will dance to the music and love the people. You might even smell the food cooking and you certainly will laugh. Bring some tissues though. Like it says on the Bella poster, ‘One day can change your life forever.’”

  • The Right to Life is an UNALIENABLE right granted to us by God

    11/02/2007 8:33:05 PM PDT · 310 of 311
    Quiet Man Jr. to olde north church

    olde north church wrote: “1. What response is your comment regarding my standing alone supposed to do? Join the wrong side of the debate? Hardly.

    2. Who has made money on the Pro-Life side of the debate? Should I start with the Catholic church, well let’s just say most churches know the abortion issue is worth another buck and a half in the basket. How many right to life organizations sending out envelopes? The money is there, what’s that old line about being shocked about the gambling?

    I may not agree with your position but I don’t doubt your honesty or your intellect.

    3. It’s not about incremental-ism, it’s about education. Don’t try to redefine my position. Your absolutism has saved fewer than education.”

    olde north, you are out of line. wagglebee nailed it, but you cite no facts. Public slander against the Catholic Church and true pro-lifers is the only persecution allowed in this country and virtually all others, except Vatican City. If you want to praise education, then it all started with the Catholic Church, to whom we all owe attribution.

  • The Right to Life is an UNALIENABLE right granted to us by God

    10/28/2007 7:03:25 PM PDT · 123 of 311
    Quiet Man Jr. to firebrand

    “Keep your eyes open for the National Right to Life endorsement, which will be coming shortly. And then we all have to stick together on their choice. That will prevent the pro-life vote from being split several ways.”

    Please be careful Freepers. One of my friends was a longtime lobbyist for National Right to Life. NRLC doesn’t represent the unborn or vulnerable. Their mantra is that America isn’t ready to outlaw abortion. All legislation they write and lobby for has exceptions.

    Look at what their state chapters do too. In Michigan, they crushed the human life amendment. That’s just one example.

  • Correction: Romney on stem cell

    10/24/2007 9:29:03 PM PDT · 11 of 12
    Quiet Man Jr. to Swordfished

    Swordfished wrote “Well I’ll be - a reasonable retraction. Thanks for correcting the record.”

    You’re welcome. It’s important to be fair.

    I should add that even if the embryonic persons weren’t engineered to die, they would die by the mere extraction of their stem cells. So either way, it’s murder.

  • Correction: Romney on stem cell

    10/24/2007 5:10:32 AM PDT · 1 of 12
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  • Dr. John Willke Endorses Mitt Romney [Deadly Compromise Alert]

    10/23/2007 7:38:17 PM PDT · 159 of 164
    Quiet Man Jr. to MHT

    MHT wrote “The Clinton camp must be dancing on tables. The bickering posts of this thread point to the real problem—we are so turned against ourselves that we are going to elect Hillary by default...”

    Attention: This is the pro-life thread.

    I posted this warning because pro-lifers respect persons at all stages of life and anyone who supports embryonic stem cell research is NOT pro-life. Romney supports ESCR, so he is NOT pro-life. Thus, Willke’s endorsement is terribly wrong because he made a deadly compromise and we should not support him in any way.

    Do you not realize that Congress has twice and overwhelmingly passed bills to federally fund ESCR? That’s right, most of Congress wants to use our tax dollars to clone and kill human beings.

    So the only reason the Clinton camp would dance at this info would be the pleasure of thinking that if Clinton loses to President Mitt Romney, he would sign a bill for federal funding of ESCR.

  • Dr. John Willke Endorses Mitt Romney [Deadly Compromise Alert]

    10/22/2007 7:30:17 PM PDT · 1 of 164
    Quiet Man Jr.
    Serious problem here. Romney wants to use "surplus" embryos for embryonic stem cell research. During the last Senate debate on ESCR, Romney's fellow Mormon Sen. Gordon Smith complimented Sen. Orrin Hatch for proper "theology"; namely, that human embryos aren't persons until their mothers want them implanted.
  • Kline files 107 counts against Planned Parenthood

    10/17/2007 9:05:02 PM PDT · 1 of 1
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  • Did Ann Coulter 'Really Go Too Far' This Time? Today Show Asks

    10/14/2007 6:40:16 PM PDT · 78 of 82
    Quiet Man Jr. to William Terrell

    Terrell wrote, “Are you going to enter the conversation at any place on the thread you posted?
    To not do so is the usual definition of a troll on FR.

    Got your panties in a wad? Speak up and justify the offense.”

    What are you talking about Terrell? What is the offense? Bringing the correct phrase to your attention? Having more important things to do than hanging out on FR all day, every day?

    Well Terrell, in case you haven’t noticed, Ann Coulter can and does speak for herself. Since she is talented, smart and outspoken, the burden is on her to speak accurately and be accountable for her own actions. She doesn’t represent me or other Christians. She doesn’t represent me and other conservatives. She does a lot of harm.

    While it can be a synonym to “completed,” “perfected” implies that Coulter thinks she and Christians are beyond reproach. Apparently that offends some people.

    On the other hand, “completed” refers to those who practice Christianity, specifically Catholicism, in good faith, rather than the presuming perfection.

    So there you have it, Terrell.

  • Did Ann Coulter 'Really Go Too Far' This Time? Today Show Asks

    10/12/2007 8:55:27 PM PDT · 1 of 82
    Quiet Man Jr.
    The phrase is "completed Jew," which refers to Jesus completing the Old Covenant. It is not "perfected Jew."
  • Abortion foes set back twice

    09/13/2007 10:05:07 PM PDT · 1 of 2
    Quiet Man Jr.
  • Medical experts never testified in Katrina hospital deaths

    08/27/2007 6:37:01 PM PDT · 221 of 235
    Quiet Man Jr. to Joann37

    “I agree with you, but think we’re in the minority here. I’m a pro-lifer as well, but from what I remember reading at the time, it was not possible to move these people and they would have drowned in the environment in which they were in. It sounds as if the doctors had to choose between letting them drown, or giving them the injection. And as horrible as what they did may be, it seems like a more humane death than drowning would have been.”

    Joann37, I have to say that’s pretty disturbing. As someone who has endured extended periods of intense pain, allow me to remind you that under no conditions do we have the right to kill innocent persons. To deprive someone of consciousness during danger of death is a terrible thing because you may be depriving someone his last chance to make peace with God. Furthermore, whatever a person suffers here in the state of grace gains him merit which he can unite with the Passion of Christ to help other souls. So please don’t rationalize euthanasia and call yourself a pro-lifer. Life and its pains are short, but eternity is forever.

  • Bandmate Sues Marilyn Manson over Nazi Purchases [DISTURBING]

    08/04/2007 8:47:23 PM PDT · 1 of 57
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  • Catholic teaching on pro-life priorities

    07/29/2007 7:10:39 PM PDT · 13 of 16
    Quiet Man Jr. to SteveMcKing

    “’Disagreements with the prudential judgment of the Holy Father on the application of capital punishment should always be made in a spirit of filial respect.’

    That’s kind of hard to do sometimes.... In fact it’s patently stupid.”

    Perhaps you misunderstand Father’s statement. Fr. Carr is saying that Archbishop Chaput should respect Justice Scalia’s prudential judgment. And judging by the picture you posted, you favor the death penalty in one case. This is not to say that Justice Scalia would agree with you, but now you have a chance to show some filial respect to Fr. Carr. Unless, of course, you prefer to appear “patently...”—well, you fill in the blank.

  • Catholic teaching on pro-life priorities

    07/29/2007 8:45:34 AM PDT · 1 of 16
    Quiet Man Jr.
    Important info to prepare Catholics (of all political persuasions) for elections.
  • Bella: a Powerful New Pro-Life Movie; But Will Christians Accept it?

    06/24/2007 8:10:25 PM PDT · 6 of 17
    Quiet Man Jr. to jocon307

    It’s very well made—it goes way beyond expectations, that’s why no one can adequately review it. See it once and you’ll want to see it again.

  • Bad Fruit

    06/24/2007 12:09:49 PM PDT · 1 of 4
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  • None dare call it a conspiracy [Gardasil, Planned Parenthood]

    06/24/2007 9:53:34 AM PDT · 1 of 9
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  • Harkin to tie stem cell research to spending bill

    06/17/2007 9:14:47 AM PDT · 1 of 28
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  • Fred Thompson, The Candidate

    06/14/2007 6:30:27 PM PDT · 1 of 3
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  • Open Letter to Dr. James Dobson

    05/30/2007 3:56:35 PM PDT · 27 of 31
    Quiet Man Jr. to Cicero

    Cicero wrote: “Another case where pursuit of the perfect overcomes the good... In an ideal world we would have reversed Roe v. Wade the minute it was passed...”

    First, as cited in the post, some impressive and knowledgeable people condemned the ruling.

    As for saying that Rohrbough should have gone to Dr. Dobson privately first, I understand that he did. Email CRTL and you’ll get an answer.

    It’s important to remember that Roe v. Wade was never “passed” by a legislature. It was a court decision and thus it is not a law—no matter who says so. Even so, many of us depend on the Court to overturn Roe, yet it seems unlikely unless some state legally defines personhood from fertilization through natural death. Then an abortion group would challenge the state law in SCOTUS. I suppose that unless some personhood law goes to SCOTUS, no trigger law will ever be enacted either.

    Another option is Congress passing the Right to Life Act and the president signing it. We should work for that, but President Bush is for rape/incest exceptions, so he probably might not sign it.

    Some of us are forgetting exactly what inJustice Kennedy did with his PBA decision. He knows people are at least squeamish about the original PBA method, so he helps abortionists by instructing them how to commit a PBA via a new method. I’m grateful that vacuuming out a baby’s brain remains outlawed, but there isn’t really a PBA ban and that’s a problem.

    Finally, here’s the Dobson reaction and it isn’t quite factual: “Today, the Supreme Court takes the scalpel out of the hands of abortionists who would brutally and fatally puncture the skulls of babies who are just inches and moments away from birth,” said Carrie Gordon Earll, senior analyst for bioethics for Focus on the Family Action.

    Dr. James C. Dobson, founder and chairman of Focus on the Family Action, said: “We thank God that the Supreme Court has affirmed the value of human life by banning the Nazi-esque barbarism that is partial-birth abortion.

  • Open Letter to Dr. James Dobson

    05/28/2007 8:39:53 AM PDT · 4 of 31
    Quiet Man Jr. to Joann37

    Dr. Dobson probably had good intentions, but it appears that he and numerous other pro-lifers didn’t read the decision. Unfortunately, even after the horrible flaws were pointed out, he and others continue to praise it.

  • Open Letter to Dr. James Dobson

    05/28/2007 8:24:03 AM PDT · 1 of 31
    Quiet Man Jr.
    This is posted because there seems to be confusion about the Court's ruling and the open letter.
  • Pro-Lifers and the Joe Shlabotnik Syndrome

    03/28/2007 8:47:24 PM PDT · 25 of 27
    Quiet Man Jr. to Hildy

    Let's not fret over a twit like this. The real problem is that pundits--even proclaimed conservative pundits--and mainstream media only cover the candidates that they want us to vote for. So I guess it's up to us to demand more coverage of Brownback and Hunter and Tancredo--and if I forgot some other legitimate contender, well, chime in patriots!