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  • Because Mary Said “Yes…” — A Reflection For The Solemnity of the Annunciation of Our Lord

    03/27/2015 4:58:39 AM PDT · 228 of 243
    RaceBannon to Steelfish

    Each time the word ROCK is used in the Bible in reference to any providing of the people, it is used as God being the one provided. Here is the first verse in the Bible in the KJV showing just that.

    (Exo 17:6 KJV) Behold, I will stand before thee there upon the rock in Horeb; and thou shalt smite the rock, and there shall come water out of it, that the people may drink. And Moses did so in the sight of the elders of Israel.

    Who pointed out where the ROCK was? God did. What came out of the ROCK? Water, water to drink. Who is referred to as LIVING WATER, water that must be drunk to live eternally? Jesus.

    (John 7:38 KJV) He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
    Each time the word ROCK is used, where God provides the ROCK, it is either a literal ROCK, like just above, where WATER came out of, water to allow the Isralites to live, it came from GOD, not a man.

    When it refers to a spiritual meaning, the word ROCK is used to describe God as creator or Saviour! IT IS NEVER USED TO DESCRIBE A MAN!

    (Deu 32:1 KJV) Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth.

    (Deu 32:2 KJV) My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass:
    (Deu 32:3 KJV) Because I will publish the name of the LORD: ascribe ye greatness unto our God.
    (Deu 32:4 KJV) He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.
    Who is the ROCK? God is, He is our support, our Saviour, our Creator.NOT A MAN.
    (Deu 32:18 KJV) Of the Rock that begat thee thou art unmindful, and hast forgotten God that formed thee.
    GOD is the ROCK, the Creator, not a man.
    (Deu 32:30 KJV) How should one chase a thousand, and two put ten thousand to flight, except their Rock had sold them, and the LORD had shut them up?
    (Deu 32:31 KJV) For their rock is not as our Rock, even our enemies themselves being judges.

    Who is the ROCK? It is GOD, not a man!

    (1 Sam 2:2 KJV) There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.
    Who is the ROCK? It is not a man, it is GOD!
    (2 Sam 22:2 KJV) And he said, The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer;
    (2 Sam 22:3 KJV) The God of my rock; in him will I trust: he is my shield, and the horn of my salvation, my high tower, and my refuge, my saviour; thou savest me from violence.

    Who is the ROCK? It is GOD. NOT a sinful man who denied his God, but GOD Himself.

    Peter is NO ONE’S shield.

    Peter is NO ONE’S high tower.

    Peter is NO ONE’S refuge.

    and Peter is NO ONE’S Saviour! To say anything like those statements are true of a sinful man is blasphemy.

    Most Catholics never read the section before or after this part:

    (Mat 16:18 KJV) And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

    That is one reason some people do not find it obvious.

    Here is what it says::

    (Mat 16:13 KJV) When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?

    (Mat 16:14 KJV) And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.

    (Mat 16:15 KJV) He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

    (Mat 16:16 KJV) And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

    (Mat 16:17 KJV) And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

    What was the original topic of discussion?

    (Mat 16:13 KJV) When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?

    Jesus asked,

    That was the topic of discussion.

    What was the response?

    (Mat 16:14 KJV) And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.

    They were all over the place, it seems that there was not many who were catching on to exactly who Jesus was.

    So, what was the next sentence?

    (Mat 16:15 KJV) He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

    (Mat 16:16 KJV) And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

    Jesus asked the disciples themselves what THEY thought, not just one disciple, but ALL of them.

    Peter gave the best answer, that Jesus IS the Christ, the Son of the living God.

    Right from there, many people ignore what was just said, and only concentrate on what comes next.

    However, that is where the error lies, in ignoring what was just said.

    It is like explaining to someone that people put sodas in the soda machine first, then act surprised when soda comes out of the machine when you put money into it. People forget what happened first: someone loaded the machine.

    In the same respect, Jesus set the tone for the conversation: WHO IS HE?

    Peter had it right: Jesus IS the Christ, the Son of the Living God.

    That was the point of what Jesus was saying. That He was the Christ.

    That was what He just said!

    We all know what comes next, and it is because people ignore what was just said, that they get this part wrong:The Context of the ongoing conversation is important:

    (Mat 16:17 KJV) And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

    (Mat 16:18 KJV) And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

    Jesus explains that Peter’s revelation did not come from His logic, it came from God the Father Himself. This type of instruction was done on a spiritual level, not fleshly, it was something that Peter would have never figured out for himself.

    What did Jesus say next? Peter is blessed because he was BLESSED with this information.

    What information?

    That Jesus IS the Christ, the Son of the Living God.

    That is the point.

    What Jesus said next is the most misused verse in the entire New Testament.

    (Mat 16:18 KJV) And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

    Peter and Rock. Is Peter the rock spoken of here, or is the IMPORTANT POINT THAT GOD REVEALED TO PETER the rock?

    17 And [ 2532] Jesus [2424] answered [ 611] (5679) and said [ 2036] (5627) unto him [846], Blessed [ 3107] art thou [ 1488] (5748), Simon [ 4613] Barjona [ 920]: for [ 3754] flesh [ 4561] and [ 2532] blood [ 129] hath [ 601] [0] not [3756] revealed [601] (5656) it unto thee [4671], but [ 235] my [ 3450] Father [ 3962] which [ 3588] is in [ 1722] heaven [ 3772].

    18 And [ 1161] I say [ 3004] (5719) also [ 2504] unto thee [ 4671], That [ 3754] thou [ 4771] art [ 1488] (5748) Peter [ 4074], and [ 2532] upon [ 1909] this [ 5026] rock [ 4073] I will build [ 3618] (5692) my [ 3450] church [ 1577]; and [ 2532] the gates [ 4439] of hell [ 86] shall [ 2729] [0] not [ 3756] prevail against [ 2729] (5692) it [ 846].

    18 kagw [ 2504] de [ 1161] soi [ 4671] legw [ 3004] (5719) oti [ 3754] su [ 4771] ei [ 1488] (5748) petroj [ 4074] kai [ 2532] epi [ 1909] tauth [ 3778] th [ 3588] petra [ 4073] oikodomhsw [ 3618] (5692) mou [ 3450] thn [ 3588] ekklhsian [ 1577] kai [ 2532] pulai [ 4439] adou [ 86] ou [ 3756] katiscusousin [ 2729] (5692) authj [ 846]

    Peter =
    4074 petroj Petros pet’-ros
    apparently a primary word; TDNT - 6:100,835; n pr m
    AV - Peter 161, stone 1; 162
    Peter = “a rock or a stone”
    1) one of the twelve disciples of Jesus

    rock =
    4073 petra petra pet’-ra
    from the same as 4074; TDNT - 6:95,834; n f
    AV - rock 16; 16
    1) a rock, cliff or ledge
    1a) a projecting rock, crag, rocky ground
    1b) a rock, a large stone
    1c) metaph. a man like a rock, by reason of his firmness and strength of soul

    Due to what Jesus was talking about, the ROCK had to be the truth Peter had revealed to him from God the Father, that JESUS IS THE CHRIST, THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD.

    There is no other sensible explanation of the verse unless it is twisted to make someone believe what is not there in the text.
    Because of all the previous uses of the word ROCK to describe the attributes of God as Creator, Deliverer, Saviour, to ascribe those attributes to a man, that is a total misunderstanding of Scripture.

    Too many people form what they believe around their doctrine, and then interpret the Bible in the light of that doctrine.

    That is wrong. Doctrine should come from what the Bible clearly says, and then base their doctrine on what it clearly says!

    The Bible nowhere grants Peter any authority that is not also given to the other disciples.

    Jesus is also called the ROCK or CORNER STONE in many other verses, but PETER IS NOT!

    Notice what is said in this passage::

    (Mat 7:24 KJV) Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

    (Mat 7:25 KJV) And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.

    (Mat 7:26 KJV) And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:

    (Mat 7:27 KJV) And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

    What is it that a person built their house upon and survived? A ROCK.

    If a person is foolish, what does a person build their house upon? SAND. What did Jesus say that those who rejected his words built upon? SAND.

    If the foolish reject Jesus and build upon SAND, then those who BELIEVE and RECEIVE what Jesus said, which of the two men is Jesus comparing them to, the SAND builder or the ROCK builder?

    It is CLEAR that Jesus is referring to those who BELIEVE on HIM and trust HIM as one who builds their house UPON A ROCK.

    That is JESUS own words several chapters before Peter’s declaration.

    This is repeated in more detail in Luke::
    (Luke 6:47 KJV) Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will show you to whom he is like:

    (Luke 6:48 KJV) He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.

    (Luke 6:49 KJV) But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.

    Note again, the PERSON who believes on the WORD OF GOD, is likened to someone building their house UPON A ROCK.

    So, what does the reference to A ROCK in ALL these cases refer to?

    Is it a MAN or is it the WORD OF GOD revealed?

    This is not difficult to read, but too many people have been taught to interpret the passage in Matthew in such a way to twist what is actually being said, and these alternate passages repeat the same basic message: THAT GOD is what matters, not men or a single man.

    Paul wrote in Romans 9::
    (Rom 9:33 KJV) As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

    Who is Paul speaking of when he SAYS A ROCK of offense? A Stumbling stone? It is Jesus, and refers to those who refuse to believe.

    (1 Cor 10:4 KJV) And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

    Who is the ROCK?
    It plainly says the ROCK WAS JESUS, not Peter.

    There is no other place where Peter is praised or given any authority, in fact Peter is rebuked for his actions by other persons.

    (Gal 2:11 KJV) But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.

    (Gal 2:12 KJV) For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.

    (Gal 2:13 KJV) And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.

    (Gal 2:14 KJV) But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?

    If PETER is the ROCK of the Church, then WHO IS PAUL to REBUKE PETER?

    Paul clearly rebuked Peter in this passage because PETER was WRONG and at FAULT!

    The ROCK of the Church CANNOT HAVE ANY FAULT, or else there is NO FOUNDATION to stand upon but error!!

    Paul was the Apostle to the Gentiles, not Peter, also. While the book of Acts clearly tells Peter to witness to a Gentile first, Peter is NOWHERE granted any position or title that PETER is the Apostle to the Gentiles, but PAUL clearly IS named as SUCH!

    (Rom 15:15 KJV) Nevertheless, brethren, I have written the more boldly unto you in some sort, as putting you in mind, because of the grace that is given to me of God,

    (Rom 15:16 KJV) That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.

    The Book of Galatians is the clearest refutation to many false doctrines concerning this::

    (Gal 2:1 KJV) Then fourteen years after I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and took Titus with me also.

    (Gal 2:2 KJV) And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain.

    Now, read the next passage carefully:: WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY??

    (Gal 2:7 KJV) But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;

    (Gal 2:8 KJV) (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:)

    THE GOSPEL OF THE UNCIRCUMCISION WAS GIVEN TO PAUL, NOT PETER.

    PETER WAS TO BE THE APOSTLE TO THE JEWS.

    (Eph 3:1 KJV) For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,

    WHO WAS? PAUL was, not Peter.

    (Eph 3:8 KJV) Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;

    WHO WAS?? Paul was!!

    (1 Tim 2:7 KJV) Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.

    WHO IS A TEACHER OF THE GENTILES?

    Paul is! NOT Peter, every time Peter is mentioned as to WHAT PEOPLE Peter is to be associated with it is the JEWS, WITH ONLY ONE EXCEPTION, and that is Acts chapter 10.

    Only ONCE, while PAUL is repeatedly and openly called or referred to as the Apostle of the Gentiles.

    In fact, there might even be more references to PAUL witnessing to Jews then there are references to PETER witnessing to Gentiles! And this from the man who is KNOWN as THE APOSTLE OF THE GENTILES!

    (Acts 9:19 KJV) And when he had received meat, he was strengthened. Then was Saul certain days with the disciples which were at Damascus.

    (Acts 9:20 KJV) And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.

    (Acts 9:21 KJV) But all that heard him were amazed, and said; Is not this he that destroyed them which called on this name in Jerusalem, and came hither for that intent, that he might bring them bound unto the chief priests?

    (Acts 9:22 KJV) But Saul increased the more in strength, and confounded the Jews which dwelt at Damascus, proving that this is very Christ.

    Acts 13:1 Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul. 2 As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them. 3 And when they had fasted and prayed, and laid their hands on them, they sent them away. 4 So they, being sent forth by the Holy Ghost, departed unto Seleucia; and from thence they sailed to Cyprus. 5 And when they were at Salamis, they preached the word of God in the synagogues of the Jews: and they had also John to their minister.

    Acts 14:1 And it came to pass in Iconium, that they went both together into the synagogue of the Jews, and so spake, that a great multitude both of the Jews and also of the Greeks believed. 2 But the unbelieving Jews stirred up the Gentiles, and made their minds evil affected against the brethren.

    Acts 17:1 Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where was a synagogue of the Jews: 2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,

    Acts 17:(Acts 17:10 KJV) And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.

    (Acts 18:4 KJV) And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.

    (Acts 18:5 KJV) And when Silas and Timotheus were come from Macedonia, Paul was pressed in the spirit, and testified to the Jews that Jesus was Christ.

    (Acts 20:21 KJV) Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

    (2 Tim 1:11 KJV) Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles.

    (2 Tim 4:17 KJV) Notwithstanding the Lord stood with me, and strengthened me; that by me the preaching might be fully known, and that all the Gentiles might hear: and I was delivered out of the mouth of the lion.

    Strengthened who? PETER?? NO!
    Paul!

    The doctrines of Peter being the ROCK are clearly not supported by Scripture.

    That cannot be denied by anyone who knows how to read for themselves.

    (Acts 17:10 KJV) And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.

    (Acts 17:11 KJV) These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

    (Acts 17:12 KJV) Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few.

    Neither did Jesus rename Peter, he clearly called Peter a stone. To believe otherwise means you believe Jesus changed the subject of His being the Messiah. Jesus entire passage was n the Church, His founding of it being the Messiah, and the fact that HIS church would have no end.

    It had NOTHING to do with a sinful man being any sort of a foundation. The only foundation for the Church was Jesus Christ Himself.

    Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

    47 Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will show you to whom he is like:

    48 He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.

    Jesus clearly says HE is the rock that the man built his house upon, not Peter.

    What did Paul say about building upon a MAN’S foundational work?

    (Rom 15:20 KJV) Yea, so have I strived to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named, lest I should build upon another man’s foundation:

    Paul said he would NOT go anywhere another man had alreayd preached. Since we KNOW Peter was in Rome after Paul, and they may have met there, Peter surely would have known this verse and this course of action and would NOT have built upon Paul’s work in Rome.

    (1 Cor 3:10 KJV) According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.

    3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

    Paul makes it clear: The FOUNDATION of the Church is JESUS CHRIST, not Peter.

    (Eph 2:20 KJV) And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

    In that last passage, ALL the Apostles are called foundations, NOT JUST PETER, and it is CLEAR:: Jesus Christ is the Chief Cornerstone, NOT PETER, and ALL the Apostles are given the same rank and status, and PETER is NOT NAMED ONCE.

    (Gal 2:7 KJV) But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;

    (Gal 2:8 KJV) (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:)

    (Gal 2:9 KJV) And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

    And Again, Paul clearly states PAUL is the Apostle to the Uncircumcision, and also noteworthy, in Gal 2:9, Look again what PAUL said::

    (Gal 2:9 KJV) And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

    Paul called 3 men, 3 Apostles the pillars of the Church, 3 men, not just Peter!!

    Like I said before: Doctrine needs to be based on the Bible and what it says. People who read the Bible and interpret the Bible in light of their doctrine are in error. The Bible should tell you what your doctrine is, instead of your doctrine telling you what the Bible clearly says.

    There are just too many ways to Biblically defeat the doctrine of Peter’s supremacy in the Church. He WAS an Apostle, and that is greater than I ever will be, but as far as the FOUNDER or LEADER ALONE of the Church, someone who is considered the foundation of the Christian Church in Europe or something, that is just not Biblical.

    You also just showed you do not know your Bible when you said this:

    Christ did NOT state to refer to or consult Scripture for disputes and correction. He said to go to the Church as It is the final authority in Christianity.

    Well, just what was Jesus doing here in this collection of verses then, if not using SCRIPTURE as the final authority on faith and morals?

    (Mat 12:3 KJV) But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him;

    (Mat 12:5 KJV) Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?

    (Mat 19:4 KJV) And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,

    (Mat 21:16 KJV) And said unto him, Hearest thou what these say? And Jesus saith unto them, Yea; have ye never read, Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings thou hast perfected praise?

    (Mat 21:42 KJV) Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord’s doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

    (Mat 22:31 KJV) But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,

    (Mark 2:25 KJV) And he said unto them, Have ye never read what David did, when he had need, and was an hungred, he, and they that were with him?

    (Mark 12:10 KJV) And have ye not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner:

    (Mark 12:26 KJV) And as touching the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spake unto him, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?

    (Luke 4:16 KJV) And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

    (Luke 6:3 KJV) And Jesus answering them said, Have ye not read so much as this, what David did, when himself was an hungered, and they which were with him;

    Jesus used Scriptue to defeat Satan, not the teachings of the Synagogue, nor the teachings of a future Church that we are disputing about:

    (Mat 4:4 KJV) But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

    (Mat 4:7 KJV) Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

    (Mat 4:10 KJV) Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
    Paul’s statement of the Church being the pillar and ground of the truth in 1 Timothy 3:15 is NOT the subject of what you claimed, either:

    (1 Tim 3:15 KJV) But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

    IT IS GOD that is the Pillar and ground of truth, and it is the SPIRITUAL Church that it is referring to, not any physical building, nor a any sinful man’s creation of a denomination.

  • Because Mary Said “Yes…” — A Reflection For The Solemnity of the Annunciation of Our Lord

    03/27/2015 4:55:56 AM PDT · 226 of 243
    RaceBannon to Steelfish

    not this again

    Catholics didnt invent the Bible

    Nor did any Catholic write it, nor did any Catholic compile it

    Faithful Jews wrote 65% of the Bible as Jews before Jesus, the rest of the books were written by Faithful Jews after Jesus.

    Every book was written by a faithful Jew in the New Testament, too

    Catholics had ZERO to do with what was in Scripture and what wasn’t

  • Glenn Beck and Grover Norquist Finally Meet for On-Air Battle Over Alleged Ties to Radical

    03/26/2015 4:56:51 PM PDT · 6 of 22
    RaceBannon to RaceBannon

    THE UNITED WEST-SEMINAR JULY 24, 2012 - THE FIRST, SECOND, and THIRD SESSION

    The American West, a group led by Tom Trento, held a seminar on the threat to the United States by Islamists, specifically, the Muslim Brotherhood, with a series of sessions led by Tom Trento and John Guandolo, former Marine and FBI Agent of 12 years.

    This is an excellent series. Each video is approximately 2 hours long. There are two more videos to follow. COPY these videos and distribute it to all your church members, friends and family.

    1st: http://youtu.be/qxP6dJL0G4A

    2nd : http://youtu.be/fCa5zm8i0Ks

    3rd: http://youtu.be/hNaqA_DmrM0

    Andrew McCarthy on the Muslim Brotherhood and huma Abadin and hillary
    1:30 minutes
    http://youtu.be/AjY9xKd0EGU

    Here is Robert Spencer discussion Brennan’s conversion with John Guandolo:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRZcI_Dk0Mk

    The sister in-law of Tony Blair, the former Prime Minister of England, Lauren Booth, is now a Muslim and here she is at a Mosque in California:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yNlOVQ4R2U

    The Muslim Brotherhood in America, 10 part series, exposing Islamist influence in the United States, including such persons as Grover Norquist.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul2hpEOngyo&list=SPF834C7965BEA6BCC&feature=plcp

    Frank Gaffney, the Center for Security policy
    https://www.facebook.com/#!/securefreedom

    Steve Coughlin, on Islam and the West, the Muslim Brotherhood
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhZe7eZK4dw&feature=bf_prev&list=SP4C29D87AA600650F

    Bill Warner on Islam
    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Bill+Warner+Islam%2C+long&lclk=long

    GLENN BECK
    The Project
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcPIaEVrS8U&list=UUfwzGhe9U4UnbYl60Tud9ww&index=3

    EGYPTIAN NEWSPAPER SAYS OBAMA ADMINSTRATION IS INFILTRATED BY MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD
    http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-perspective/010913-640022-infiltration-by-muslim-brotherhood-worse-than-thought.htm

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/09/shocking-report-egyptian-media-says-obama-is-a-muslim-brotherhood-member/
    Shocking Report! Egyptian Media Says Obama is a Muslim Brotherhood Member
    Posted by Gateway Guest Blogger on Monday, September 2, 2013, 1:46 PM

    Claire lopez, CIA agent and terrorism expert:
    HISBULLAH CELLS REFORMING
    http://lopez.pundicity.com/13262/iranian-hezbollah-terror-cells

    What is ISlam?
    What did Mohammed himself say it was?
    http://www.politicalislam.com/blog/mohammeds-litmus-test/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AU13D4ZPtQM
    Published on Jul 25, 2013
    Recently, The United West Savannah, GA operation sponsored a National Security Briefing featuring Clare Lopez, former CIA operations Officer and currently a Fellow with Center for Security Policy and the Clarion Fund. Clare, one of the world’s top experts on the Muslim Brotherhood hits this one out of the park as she systematically and comprehensively details the origin, growth and current influence capabilities of this cultural terrorist organization. Most shocking is the deep penetration and overwhelming influence the MB have with President Obama and his Administration. Tune in for a first class national security brief!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqtJrJ40Cio
    Watch these Navy SEAL Team VI families and other family members as they reveal the Obama Administrations culpability in death of their sons in the fatal helicopter crash in Afghanistan following the successful raid on bin Laden’s compound. This is a powerful and riveting briefing thatincluded some of America’s most significant military leaders.

    Grover Norquist says ending birthright citizenship equals a tax increase
    http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2012/03/anti-tax-activist-grover-norquist-says-ending-birthright-citizenship-equals-a-tax-increase/

    CPAC’s Grover Norquist Joins Obama Push For Illegal Alien Amnesty
    http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/02/25/cpacs-grover-norquist-joins-obama-push-for-illegal-alien-amnesty/

    A Troubling Influence (Grover Norquist’s Islamist Connections
    http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=15084

    Grover Norquist’s New Muslim Protégé
    http://frontpagemag.com/2011/09/26/grover-norquists-new-muslim-protege/

    Frank Gaffney on Grover Norquist and the Muslim Brotherhood
    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&ved=0CG4QtwIwCQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dfbyiz97lA78&ei=FrBmT6nsN-Pq0gGxxYy2CA&usg=AFQjCNF-gIk_XD1FHtk36G6So5pO44cXgQ&sig2=uD5sleJkQt6tdeJriqDZHQ

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/03/grover_norquists_jihad.html

    http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/25/cpac-shills-for-islamic-terrorists/

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/03/pamela-geller-american-thinker-grover-norquists-jihad.html

    http://1389blog.com/category/politics/clinton/

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/dhimmitude_north_american_style/

    Why We Should Fear Islam? Dr. Bill Warner
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y&feature=g-hist

    The whole administration is stocked with islamic sympatizers!!!

    Can It All Be Coincidence?
    http://www.themoralliberal.com/2012/10/03/can-it-all-be-coincidence/

    Soldier tries to warn of the dangers of Islam!
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3148562/posts

    Three Star General - Muslim Influence has penetrated Pentagon
    http://patdollard.com/2012/09/three-star-general-muslim-brotherhood-has-infiltrated-department-of-defense/

    CIA Hosting Muslim Terrorists!
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/10/23/CIA-Hosts-Training-By-Muslim-Brotherhood-Leader-and-Hamas-Supporter

    Muslim Brotherhood Infiltrates the White House!
    http://www.investigativeproject.org/3869/egyptian-magazine-muslim-brotherhood-infiltrates

    Who are the Palestinians REALLY?
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=19713

    Remember what Eric Nordstrom said in a Congressional hearing Oct 10, 2012 ….”The Taliban is on the inside of the building”

    Okay, in case you never hear this from Obama, here is what muslims say when we arent around, this is what they REALLY think, in their own words:
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e9b_1421092375

  • Glenn Beck and Grover Norquist Finally Meet for On-Air Battle Over Alleged Ties to Radical

    03/26/2015 4:45:51 PM PDT · 2 of 22
    RaceBannon to Nachum

    Grover Norquist’s Strange Alliance With Radical Islam
    The New Republic ^ | November 11, 2001 | Franklin Foer
    https://web.archive.org/web/20011106211911/http://www.thenewrepublic.com/111201/foer111201.html

    http://www.thenewrepublic.com/111201/foer111201.html

    GROVER NORQUIST’S STRANGE ALLIANCE WITH RADICAL ISLAM.
    Fevered Pitch
    by Franklin Foer

    Post date 11.01.01 | Issue date 11.12.01

    On the afternoon of September 26, George W. Bush gathered 15 prominent Muslim- and Arab-Americans at the White House. With cameras rolling, the president proclaimed that “the teachings of Islam are teachings of peace and good.” It was a critically important moment, a statement to the world that America’s Muslim leaders unambiguously reject the terror committed in Islam’s name.

    Unfortunately, many of the leaders present hadn’t unambiguously rejected it. To the president’s left sat Dr. Yahya Basha, president of the American Muslim Council, an organization whose leaders have repeatedly called Hamas “freedom fighters.” Also in attendance was Salam Al-Marayati, executive director of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, who on the afternoon of September 11 told a Los Angeles public radio audience that “we should put the State of Israel on the suspect list.” And sitting right next to President Bush was Muzammil Siddiqi, president of the Islamic Society of North America, who last fall told a Washington crowd chanting pro-Hezbollah slogans, “America has to learn if you remain on the side of injustice, the wrath of God will come.” Days later, after a conservative activist confronted Karl Rove with dossiers about some of Bush’s new friends, Rove replied, according to the activist, “I wish I had known before the event took place.”

    If the administration was caught unaware, it may be because they placed their trust in one of the right’s most influential activists: Grover Norquist. As president of Americans for Tax Reform, Norquist is best known for his tireless crusades against big government. But one of Norquist’s lesser-known projects over the last few years has been bringing American Muslims into the Republican Party. And, as he usually does, Norquist has succeeded. According to several sources, Norquist helped orchestrate various post-September 11 events that brought together Muslim leaders and administration officials. “He worked with Muslim leaders to engineer [Bush]’s prominent visit to the Mosque,” says the Arab-American pollster John Zogby, referring to the president’s September 17 trip to the Islamic Center of Washington. Says Zogby, who counts Norquist among his clients, “Absolutely, he’s central to the White House outreach.” Indeed, when Jewish activists and terrorism experts complained about the Muslim invitees to Adam Goldman, who works in the White House public liaison’s office, Goldman replied that Norquist had vouched for them. (Goldman denies this, but two separate sources say they heard him say it.) “Just like [administration officials] ask my advice on inviting religious figures to the White House,” says Paul Weyrich, another top conservative activist, “they rely on Grover’s help [with Muslims].”

    Norquist denies being involved in “micromanaging the specifics” of White House meetings, but admits “I have been a long time advocate of outreach to the Muslim community.” In fact, the record suggests that he has spent quite a lot of time promoting people openly sympathetic to Islamist terrorists. And it’s starting to cause him problems. Weyrich, echoing other movement conservatives, says he is “not pleased” with Norquist’s activity. According to one intelligence official who recently left the government, a number of counterterrorism agents at the FBI and CIA are “pissed as hell about the situation [in the White House] and pissed as hell about Grover.” They should be. While nobody suggests that Norquist himself is soft on terrorism, his lobbying has helped provide radical Islamic groups—and their causes—a degree of legitimacy and access they assuredly do not deserve.

    Norquist is one of the undisputed masters of Republican coalition building. And so it is no surprise that he has turned his attention to America’s fast-growing Muslim population, which by some accounts now stands at seven million strong. (Although two other recent reports suggest it is less than three million.) “He’s worked with [Rabbi Daniel] Lapin to bring Jews into the fold,” says one Norquist associate. “That was an uphill effort. So he figured that he could turn Muslims into the obvious counterweight to the relationship between the Jews and Dems.” In the last few years, Norquist has pursued a Republican-Muslim alliance with a two-track approach. With conservatives, he has emphasized that Muslims are a good demographic fit for the GOP: well-off and socially conservative. “American Muslims look like members of the Christian Coalition,” he wrote in The American Spectator this summer. To Muslims, he has promised a sympathetic hearing for their causes. He has pushed Republican leaders to support a prohibition on the government’s use of “secret evidence” in the deportation of suspected terrorists—an issue that jibes with Norquist’s own anti-government agenda. And he has intimated that Muslim support for Republicans could change U.S. policy toward the Middle East. Appearing on a panel at a 1999 meeting of the American Muslim Alliance, alongside activists who complained about the “Zionist lobby” and Jewish “monopolizing” of Jerusalem, Norquist announced that “[t]oo many American politicians have been able to take their shots at Muslims and at Muslims countries.”

    orquist has not undertaken this crusade alone. In the mid-1990s, he enlisted a partner, Khaled Saffuri, then working as a lobbyist and deputy director for the American Muslim Council (AMC). After receiving a master’s in management science, Saffuri came to Washington in 1987 and worked his way up through the city’s Arab-Muslim political apparatus, starting with a stint at the American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee. In 1998 he left the AMC to help Norquist found the Islamic Institute, an advocacy organization dedicated to promoting a conservative agenda that would appeal to Muslims. Saffuri served as executive director and Norquist as chairman of the board.

    The Institute operated out of the headquarters of Americans for Tax Reform, from which it borrowed not just a fax machine and conference room, but an agenda. Soon the Institute was shilling for all of Norquist’s pet issues—a moratorium on Internet taxation, fast-track trade negotiation authority, and personal savings accounts. It even published a paper on the Koran’s compatibility with capitalism. “People should remember that Mohammed and his wife were businessmen,” Norquist notes. With the help of Saffuri, who brought ties to a vast network of activists, the Islamic Institute became a nerve center for Muslim lobbying in Washington. As Norquist puts it, “They gather at the Islamic Institute to plan and debrief, when they have meetings [with administration officials].”

    Through the Islamic Institute, Norquist appears to have developed close relationships with a number of Muslim leaders. When I recently spoke to the Muslim Public Affairs Council’s Salam Al-Marayati, the man who fingered Israel as a potential sponsor of the World Trade Center attacks, he recited Norquist’s phone number from memory. When University of South Florida professor Sami Al-Arian e-mailed The Wall Street Journal in response to an op-ed that tied him to Islamic Jihad, he CC’d Norquist. Last year at its annual dinner, the AMC presented Norquist with an award for his service. As John Zogby told me, “[H]e’s played the role of interlocutor. With all respect, many of the leaders are immigrants and don’t have years and years of experience. Grover has filled that void.”

    And he has done so to their mutual political benefit. During the 2000 campaign, Norquist urged Karl Rove to focus on the Muslim vote—pointing to, among other things, the thousands of Muslims in the key state of Michigan. By all appearances, the Bush campaign heeded Norquist’s advice. In an admirable departure from the usual Republican script, Bush frequently integrated mosques into his platitudes about churches and synagogues. In the second presidential debate, Bush vowed to repeal the use of secret evidence, just as Norquist had promised. Bush even named Saffuri as the campaign’s National Advisor on Arab and Muslim Affairs.

    When Bush won, Norquist credited the Muslim strategy. “Bush’s talk about outreach and inclusion had extraordinary results—the Muslim community went 2-1 for Bill Clinton in 1996 and almost 8-1 for Bush in 2000,” he told The Washington Times. (That statistic is almost certainly untrue, and Bush actually lost Michigan, the state where Muslims are most heavily concentrated.) Or, as Norquist put it in the Spectator, “George W. Bush was elected President of the United States of America because of the Muslim vote.”

    Norquist quickly set about turning that supposed electoral influence into legislative influence. One day after Bush’s inauguration, he and Saffuri arranged for Muslim leaders to meet Newt Gingrich and Congressman Tom Davis, head of the National Republican Congressional Committee. Soon Saffuri began regularly appearing at the White House, accompanying imams and heads of Islamic organizations to discuss the faith-based initiative and concerns about law enforcement persecution of Muslims. Suhail Khan, an administration adviser who helps plan Muslim outreach, once served on the Islamic Institute’s board. And at one of his regular Wednesday meetings, according to two witnesses, Norquist announced that he had lobbied to get Khan his White House post. On the afternoon of September 11, a group of Muslim leaders happened to have plans to meet the president in the West Wing to discuss their grievances with racial profiling and secret evidence. When they couldn’t enter the building, along with almost everyone else, they headed a few blocks uptown and reconvened—in the conference room of Norquist’s office.

    ut the events of September 11 have cast some of Norquist’s relationships in a less flattering light. Consider first the history and recent statements of the American Muslim Council, the organization that presented Norquist with an achievement award, and whose officials attend Norquist-arranged meetings with the Republican hierarchy. In the 1990s it co-sponsored two conferences with the United Association for Studies and Research, which, according to The New York Times, a convicted Hamas operative named Mohammed Abdel-Hamid Salah in 1993 called “the political command” of Hamas in the United States. At a Washington rally last year, Abdurahman Alamoudi, Saffuri’s boss at the AMC, declared, “I have been labeled by the media in New York to be a supporter of Hamas. Anybody support Hamas here?...Hear that, Bill Clinton? We are all supporters of Hamas. I wished they added that I am also a supporter of Hezbollah.” In press releases and forums, the AMC has defended the terrorist-harboring Sudanese government against charges that it massively violates human rights and condones slavery. As late as June of this year, the AMC put out a press release entitled “SLAVERY IN SUDAN IS A SHAM..”

    The record of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)—which, like the AMC, sends members to meetings organized by Norquist and Saffuri—is no more encouraging. When interviewed by Salon’s Jake Tapper on September 26, CAIR Communication Director Ibrahim Hooper refused to condemn Osama bin Laden. CAIR founder Nihad Awad, who appeared with Bush at the Washington Islamic Center, has argued that “[t]here is ample evidence indicating that both the Mossad and the Egyptian Intelligence played a role in the [1993 World Trade Center] explosion.” And Siraj Wahaj, who has served as a CAIR board member, has been described by federal prosecutor Mary Jo White as a possible conspirator in the ‘93 bombing. As Harvard professor of Islamic studies Ali Asani has complained, “There is general concern among Muslim intellectuals about how not only CAIR but some of these other organizations are claiming to speak in the name of the Muslim community, and how they’re coming to be recognized by the government as spokespeople for the Muslim community in the U.S.”

    nd Norquist hasn’t only developed close ties to American groups that apologize for terror. He has also flacked for at least one Middle Eastern autocracy: Qatar. Eager to improve relations with the United States, Qatar worked with Norquist and Saffuri to help portray itself as a liberal outpost in the Islamic world. In April, Saffuri sponsored the “First Annual Conference on Free Trade and Democracy” in the Qatari capital of Doha, for which the Islamic Institute received over $150,000 in payments from the Qatar Embassy’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs Account. (Saffuri says these were reimbursements for the travel expenses of congressional delegates.) A lobbyist at Norquist’s firm, Janus-Merritt, has solicited pro-Qatari op-eds from at least one conservative pundit. When the emir of Qatar came to Washington, Saffuri hosted a Capitol Hill luncheon in his honor. And just three weeks after September 11, Norquist wrote an op-ed in The Washington Times in which he claimed that “Qatar has taken great strides to enshrine values of universal suffrage, a free press, and human rights.” He continued, “[S]he really means it on being a reliable ally.”

    Qatar may not be Iraq, but Norquist’s arguments are still laughable. Freedom House, which monitors religious liberty, rates Qatar “not free.” Among countries in the Middle East—a region hardly known for its liberalism—Qatar finished in the bottom half of a Heritage Foundation “Index of Economic Freedom.” Two days after Norquist’s op-ed, The Washington Post reported on Qatar’s refusal to support a widening of the war on terrorism to include Islamic Jihad, Hamas, or Hezbollah. And, just two weeks later, the foreign minister of Qatar—our “reliable ally”—announced that “[t]he attacks against Afghanistan are unacceptable and we have condemned them. It is our clear position.”

    orquist’s new associations—particularly his links to groups like CAIR and the AMC—have not gone unnoticed in conservative ranks. Paul Weyrich says, “I have on at least one occasion [confronted him] and he assured me that he knew what he was doing and that I shouldn’t have any concerns.” Another conservative says he told Norquist about the two organizations’ statements on terrorism, but it didn’t make an impression. “We can’t knock it off; we want them on our own team,” Norquist replied.

    Norquist’s relationships have even pitted him against the GOP leadership. After the Republican convention last year, he set up a lunch at the Capitol Hill Club for Republican Party chairman Jim Nicholson to plot strategy with Muslim leaders. But in the week before the event, angry Jewish groups provided the RNC with a set of damning quotes from representatives of CAIR, the AMC, and some of the other invited guests. When I asked Cliff May, who was the Republican National Committee’s communications director at the time, he confirmed the story. “I was approached and apprised of their backgrounds and told the chairman there’s reason to be concerned.” The event took place—Nicholson didn’t feel he could cancel it—but not as originally planned. As one RNC source explains it, Nicholson gave a “generic five-minute talk about lower taxes and less government and said thank you for your support and got the hell out.”

    Since September, not surprisingly, conservatives once willing to overlook Norquist’s alliances have more aggressively aired their grievances. Consider William Murray, head of the Religious Freedom Coalition. He had considered Norquist a comrade, but now makes no secret of his displeasure. “Grover has a very liberated view of Islamic nations,” says Murray, somewhat hyperbolically. “So they behead people in the public square. He thinks that’s their business. Hey, it’s no big deal to have people beheaded for religious crimes.” Weyrich, too, has made his unhappiness a matter of public record: “I’m afraid Grover’s woefully naive.” Even Norquist’s weekly confab has become the scene of internecine fighting. At a session earlier this month, Frank Gaffney questioned the presence of terrorist sympathizers at the White House. Norquist exploded, accusing Gaffney of smearing Muslims. Later he choked up as he addressed the meeting and asked Gaffney to stand up and join him in condemning anti-Muslim bigotry. One conservative who witnessed Norquist’s tirade says, “His response is powered in part by a sense that this whole edifice he’s created is in danger of coming unraveled because of [these groups’] stated and abiding positions.”

    When I visited Norquist, he was in a similarly embattled frame of mind. He asked me to turn off my tape recorder. Any quote I wanted to use, he told me, would require his approval. There were none of his usual passionate ideological perorations. He just sat in his chair, seething. “There are some people who spit on Muslims and wouldn’t like to see them have any role in American politics,” he told me in a near scream. Grover Norquist’s pursuit of the fabled Republican-Muslim alliance, it seems, will continue for a long time.

    FRANKLIN FOER is an associate editor at TNR.

    Grover Norquist says ending birthright citizenship equals a tax increase
    http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2012/03/anti-tax-activist-grover-norquist-says-ending-birthright-citizenship-equals-a-tax-increase/

    CPAC’s Grover Norquist Joins Obama Push For Illegal Alien Amnesty
    http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/02/25/cpacs-grover-norquist-joins-obama-push-for-illegal-alien-amnesty/

    A Troubling Influence (Grover Norquist’s Islamist Connections
    http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=15084

    Grover Norquist’s New Muslim Protégé
    http://frontpagemag.com/2011/09/26/grover-norquists-new-muslim-protege/

    Frank Gaffney on Grover Norquist and the Muslim Brotherhood
    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&ved=0CG4QtwIwCQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dfbyiz97lA78&ei=FrBmT6nsN-Pq0gGxxYy2CA&usg=AFQjCNF-gIk_XD1FHtk36G6So5pO44cXgQ&sig2=uD5sleJkQt6tdeJriqDZHQ

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/03/grover_norquists_jihad.html

    http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/25/cpac-shills-for-islamic-terrorists/

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/03/pamela-geller-american-thinker-grover-norquists-jihad.html

    http://1389blog.com/category/politics/clinton/

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/dhimmitude_north_american_style/

  • Because Mary Said “Yes…” — A Reflection For The Solemnity of the Annunciation of Our Lord

    03/26/2015 3:41:17 AM PDT · 17 of 243
    RaceBannon to Biggirl

    I see that this thread attracts those who refuse to admit the obvious, too.

  • Because Mary Said “Yes…” — A Reflection For The Solemnity of the Annunciation of Our Lord

    03/26/2015 3:40:23 AM PDT · 15 of 243
    RaceBannon to knarf

    The Babylon mystery religion is world wide :)

  • Because Mary Said “Yes…” — A Reflection For The Solemnity of the Annunciation of Our Lord

    03/26/2015 2:32:18 AM PDT · 3 of 243
    RaceBannon to Steelfish
    Examples of Maryolatry



    Also See the Article:
    Rome's Mary on the Cross and on God's Throne




    Mary crowned Queen of Heaven, Santa Maria Maggiore, Rome




    Mary sitting in the place of God on the Ark of the Covenant, St. Stanislaus Kostka, Chicago




    Mary, Queen of Peace, Santa Maria Maggiore, Rome




    Mary on the cross with Christ, Poland




    Mary on the cross with Christ, Santa Maria Maggiore, Rome




    Rome's Mary on the Cross and on God's Throne

    For photos of Mary on God’s throne, Mary the Queen of Peace, Mary hanging on the cross, Mary adored by the apostles, and Mary on the ark of the covenant see the following:
    www.wayoflife.org/database/maryolatry.html
    _____________________

    In spite of claims of contemporary Catholic propagandists, the Roman Catholic Church worships Mary. They use the term “venerate,” but it is the same thing.

    According to Rome, she was immaculately (sinlessly) conceived, participated in Christ’s suffering for mankind, ascended bodily to Heaven, was crowned Queen of the universe, and intercedes for sinners. 

    During a radio message concluding the Jubilee of the Redemption, April 28, 1935, Pope Pius XI gave the Catholic Mary the title Co-redemptrix. At least five times Pope Paul II referred to her by this title in his papal statements. In his general audience in 1997, he said that Mary “collaborated in obtaining the grace of salvation for all humanity” (Vatican Information Service, April 9, 1997). This pope dedicated himself and the whole world to Mary. 

    The influential book
    The Glories of Mary by Alphonsus Mary de Liguori, a Catholic saint, calls Mary our Life, our Help, our Advocate, our Guardian, our Mediatress, our Salvation, and the Hope of Sinners. Chapter 5 says “Mary’s intercession is necessary for our salvation.” This book was tested 20 times by the rules of Pope Urban VIII and Pope Benedict XIV and was said to contain not “one word worthy of censure.” It was pronounced to be without error by Pope Pius VII and by Pope Leo XII. Pope John Paul II acknowledged Liguori’s influence in his own idolatrous affection for Mary. Liguori’s book continues to be published today with the imprimatur [Latin meaning “let it be printed”] of various Catholic authorities. 

    MARY ON THE CROSS

    In the Church of the Mother of God of Polish Martyrs in Warsaw, Poland, Mary is depicted hanging on the cross holding the child Jesus. 

    Outside of the main Mary basilica in Rome (Santa Maria Maggiore) there is a large crucifix with Jesus hanging on one side and a crowned Mary hanging on the other. 

    This statue depicts Rome’s dogma that Mary is the co-redemptress with Christ and that she intercedes for men from Heaven and aids in their salvation. 

    Note the following quotations from the Vatican II Council: 

    “As St. Irenaeus says, she being obedient, became the cause of salvation for herself and for the whole human race. Hence not a few of the early Fathers gladly assert with him in their preaching ... ‘death through Eve, LIFE THROUGH MARY.’ This UNION OF THE MOTHER WITH THE SON IN THE WORK OF SALVATION is made manifest from the time of Christ’s virginal conception up to his death” (Dogmatic Constitution on the Church, chap. 8, II, 56, pp. 380- 381). 

    “Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but BY HER MANIFOLD INTERCESSION CONTINUES TO BRING US THE GIFTS OF ETERNAL SALVATION. By her maternal charity, she cares for the brethren of her Son, who still journey on earth surrounded by dangers and difficulties, until they are led into their blessed home. Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of ADVOCATE, HELPER, BENEFACTRESS, and MEDIATRIX” (Dogmatic Constitution on the Church, chap. 8, II, 62, pp. 382-383). 

    A plaque in the Chapel of the Virgin of the Grace at Saints Vincent and Anastasius Church in Rome says, “Cardinal Benedetto Odescalchi, who became the pope with the name of Innocent XI, initiated THE WORSHIP OF THE IMAGE, placed on the altar in 1677, and wanted his heart to be buried here, not in the main chapel.” 

    This is only one example of many that could be given of the term “worship” used in regard to Mary in Rome’s churches.

    MARY ADORED BY THE APOSTLES

    In the Church of the Mother of God of Polish Martyrs in Warsaw, Poland, Mary is also surrounded by the 12 apostles who are adoring her rather than Jesus Christ. 

    MARY ON THE ARK OF THE COVENANT

    The Saint Stanislaus Kostka Catholic church in Chicago features an image of Mary on the very Ark of God. She is sitting above the Ark in the place that was occupied by God’s presence in the Tabernacle, and she is surrounded by adoring cherubim. This blasphemous image occupies the central altar where Mass is performed. The church’s official literature says that the image depicts the Catholic doctrines that Mary was immaculately conceived and sinless, that she participated in Christ’s suffering for mankind, and that she was bodily assumed into glory and crowned Queen of Heaven. The icon depicting Mary as the Ark of Mercy was dedicated in May 2008. Since then the church has been open 24 hours a day as an invitation for “pilgrims from all around the world to immerse themselves in the spring of grace, mercy, and power” that is supposedly flowing from the image. 

    This is pure blasphemy. The Ark of the Covenant was located in the Holy of Holies in the Old Testament tabernacle and was the place where God’s presence dwelt (Exodus 25:22). Angels do not worship creatures (Acts 14:11-15; Rev. 19:10). 

    Roman Catholic churches are filled with idols. Mary is reverenced with far greater fervency than Jesus. Every “evangelical” or “Baptist” or “Protestant” who has said positive things about Rome and who has participated in ecumenical relations with Rome or who has failed even to lift his voice against Rome’s gross heresies will answer to God for the refusal to “earnestly contend for the faith once delivered to the saints” (Jude 3) and for keeping silence in the face of evil.

    MARY QUEEN OF THE UNIVERSE

    The Roman Catholic Basilica of Mary, Queen of the Universe is located in Orlando, Florida, near Disney World. The basilica’s official brochure says it “emphasizes devotion to the Mother of God as one of the God-given gifts enabling us to reach that salvation for which Christ gave us His life on the cross.” Thus, according to this Catholic document Mary plays a role in salvation, which is a blasphemous lie. That Rome’s Mary is worshipped as queen of heaven is clear evidence that she is a Christianized pagan idol, for the only queen of heaven mentioned in the Bible is a goddess that the Jews were worshipping at the time of the destruction of the First Temple (Jeremiah 7:18; 44:17-25). The ancient mother-goddess worship, which began at Babel and spread throughout the world, was baptized by the Roman Catholic Church as the Madonna-Child.

    ________________________

    For photos of Mary on God’s throne, Mary the Queen of Peace, Mary hanging on the cross, Mary surrounded by the apostles, and Mary on the ark of the covenant see the following:
    www.wayoflife.org/database/maryolatry.html



  • BREAKING: Germanwings Pilot Was Locked Out of Cockpit Before Crash in France

    03/25/2015 6:30:28 PM PDT · 241 of 340
    RaceBannon to gaijin

    my guess is they thought it would be hidden from view, weather would make it too hard to find, it would remain lost until evidence would fade away

  • Apologetics 101: Is "Once Saved, Always Saved" in the Bible?

    03/24/2015 5:44:08 PM PDT · 71 of 140
    RaceBannon to NYer

    Sign of Life #10—The True Believer Continues in the Faith to the End.

    1. ETERNAL SECURITY means that the true believer is safe and secure in Christ forever. Eternal security is clearly taught in the book of Hebrews. Find the verses in Hebrews that teach us these facts about our eternal security in Christ (the chapter is given; you must find the verse):

    Hebrews 5:_____ Salvation is forever (”eternal salvation”).

    Hebrews 7:_____ God is able to save completely (”to the uttermost”).

    Hebrews 7:_____ Christ never stops interceding for His own.

    Hebrews 9:_____ Our redemption is forever (”eternal redemption”).

    Hebrews 9:_____ Our inheritance is forever (”eternal inheritance”).

    Hebrews 9:_____ Christ appears in God’s presence for us (on behalf of His children).

    Hebrews 10:_____ Christ has perfected forever His saints.

    Hebrews 12:____ God chastens (not condemns) His children.

    Hebrews 13:____ Christ will never ever leave us and He will never ever forsake us!

    Does the writer of the book of Hebrews teach that the true believer is safe and secure in Christ forever? _______

    2. HEBREWS 3:6. What is Christ’s house today (compare 1 Tim. 3:15 and Matt. 16:18)? __________________________. Christ is the Builder and the Head of this house. Who is Christ’s house today (Heb. 3:6)? _________________________ If a person does not “hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end” then what does this prove? ___________________________________________________________ Think of scaffolding which is erected around a building during times of construction or repair. Scaffolding is merely a temporary attachment. It is not a real and genuine part of the building. Proof of this is in the fact that the scaffolding does not continue with the building but rather it is taken down and removed. If a person is truly a part of Christ’s house, then what will that person do according to Hebrews 3:6? _______________________________________________________________________________

    3. HEBREWS 3:14. The verb “are made” is in the perfect tense, meaning that we have become partakers of Christ with the result that we are (and continue to be) partakers of Christ. A “partaker” is a partner, one who shares in common, participates with. A true believer is a partaker of Christ. He shares in Christ’s LIFE. He is united to Christ in a unique way. How many believers are partakers of Christ (Heb. 3:14), that is, how many believers have Christ and share in His LIFE (see 1 John 5:12; John 6:47)? ________ When did you become a partaker of Christ? THE MOMENT I __________________________________________

    Will a true “partaker of Christ” ever stop being a partaker of Christ (compare Phil. 1:6; 1 Pet. 1:5; Rom. 8:38-39; etc.)? ______ If a person has truly become a partaker of Christ, then what will he do (Heb. 3:14)? _________________________________________________________________________ The word “hold” means “hold fast” (it is the same word as in Heb. 3:6). If a person does not “hold fast the beginning of his confidence stedfast unto the end” (see Heb. 3:14), then this indicates that this person never truly became a P___________________ of Christ. He was just a temporary attachment.

    4. 1 CORINTHIANS 15:2. The expression “keep in memory” means “hold fast” (the same word as in Hebrews 3:6 and 3:14). If a person does not HOLD FAST to the gospel which Paul preached, then this would show us that the person was never really S_____________. In other words, this person did not believe to the _________________ of his ____________ (see Heb. 10:39), but he believed _____ ___________ (see 1 Cor. 15:2). Is there a difference between genuine saving faith and a faith that is IN VAIN? _______ If a person really has saving faith, then he will HOLD FAST to the gospel that was ________________ unto him (1 Cor. 15:2). A person believes in Christ and is saved. Twenty or thirty years later, we should expect this person to say something like this: “I am still trusting my Lord Jesus Christ who died for me and rose again for me.” On his deathbed (assuming he still has his mental faculties) he will still echo this truth: “My hope is built on nothing less than Jesus’ blood and righteousness!” If he is trusting something or someone else, then something is drastically wrong.

    5. COLOSSIANS 1:22-23. True or False: _______________ God will present EVERY BELIEVER holy and unblameable and unreproveable in His sight (Col. 1:22; see Jude 24-25). If a person does not “continue in the faith” (see Col. 1:23), then what does this indicate (circle the correct answer):

    The believer will lose his salvation.
    God is not able to keep the believer from falling away (see Jude 24).
    The person was never a true believer in the first place (just a temporary attachment) and this is why he did not continue in the faith.
    The person will stop being a saint.
    Continuing in the faith is one of the marks of a true believer. There are certainly times when we fail and falter, when we waver and wander. Remember Peter who denied his Lord three times. But the Lord prayed for Peter that his faith would not F_________ (Luke 22:31-32). Peter’s faith certainly faltered, but he recovered, and ultimately his faith did not fail. He remained a faithful believer to the end of his life. This does not mean that believers need to keep themselves saved and only those believers with enough stamina and persistence will qualify for heaven. Even Peter knew that believers are “kept by the ______________ of ________” (1 Peter 1:5). The reason believers continue in the faith is because God keeps His believers faithful. Though we must hold fast to Him and cleave to Him always, yet it is not ultimately our hold upon Him, but His hold upon us that keeps us safe (see John 10:28-29).

    6. LUKE 8:6,13. What is the one thing that is SIMILAR between the seed that fell on the rocky ground and the seed that fell on the good ground (compare verse 6 and verse 8)? _________________________________________________________________

    Rocky Ground (verse 6)

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    Goof Ground (verse 8)

    If you were to walk by these two growing plants (the one on rocky ground and the other on good ground) would you notice any difference at first? _______ What one thing is needed before you would be able to tell the difference (circle the correct answer):

    Rain would be needed.
    Time would be needed.
    Fertilizer would be needed.
    So it is with those who claim to be believers. At first, how do they receive the Word (see verse 13)?______________________ Do they CONTINUE to receive God’s Word even unto the end? _____ For how long do they believe (v.13)? ____________________ Is this genuine saving faith or is it merely temporary faith? _________________________ When things get rough and tough what do these so-called believers do?______________________________ Do they continue in the faith grounded (having deep roots) and settled (compare Col. 1:23)? _____ Would you say that their faith is “in vain” (1 Cor. 15:2)? _______ They lack deep roots!

    Read Luke 8:15. Those on good soil not only hear the Word but they also _____________ it. This word “keep” (Greek-katecho) is the same word which we found in Hebrews 3:6 (HOLD FAST) and Hebrews 3:14 (HOLD) and 1 Corinthians 15:2 (KEEP IN MEMORY). The true believer hears God’s Word and KEEPS IT (holds fast to the Lord Jesus even to the end) even as the Corinthian believers HELD FAST to the gospel which Paul preached unto them (1 Cor. 15:2).

    In John 3:16 (and numerous other passages) the verb “BELIEVETH” is in the present tense indicating that the action of the verb is continuous: “whosoever believeth (keeps on believing, continues to believe) in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.” In light of this verse, circle the answers below that are true:

    If a true believer does not continue to believe, then he will lose his salvation (see John 10:28).
    A true believer will continue to believe. A true believer never stops being a believer. A true believer never becomes an unbeliever (although he may fail to trust God in many ways in his day by day walk). A true saint keeps on believing on Christ.
    A true believer takes hold of Christ, holds on to Christ and never lets go. He is anchored to the living God forever (Heb. 6:19).
    From the day he is saved to the day he breathes his last, the true believer must confess that Christ is his Saviour, God is his Father, the Holy Spirit is his Comforter and heaven is his home. There are times when he may not be spiritually healthy, indeed he may be quite carnal and fleshly, but he is able to tell you who his Saviour is. His hope is built on nothing less than Jesus’ blood and righteousness!
    Do the people described in Luke 8:13 continue to believe? _______ Are they true believers?______ Does a true believer draw back unto eternal destruction (Heb. 10:39)? _____ The writer of the book of Hebrews speaks for all true believers when he says, “We are ______ of them who _____________ ___________ unto _______________________” (Heb. 10:39), but on the contrary, the true saint is the person who believes to the “_________________ of his ____________.” In Luke 8:15 the word “PATIENCE” means “endurance” (abiding and remaining faithful under the pressures and hardships and trials of life). Only the seed that was on the _____________ ground HELD FAST to the Word and ENDURED to the end. This brings us to point seven found in the following paragraph.

    7. MATTHEW 24:13 (compare Matthew 10:22). Will the tribulation be a difficult time of testing and a severe time of trial for the true saints of God (Matthew 24:21-22)? ______ When the going gets rough, what happens to those who do not really have saving faith (Luke 8:13)? _________________________________________ If the church you attend were suddenly to come under the fires of persecution, do you think it would be more evident who the true believers really are? _____ Do you think you might notice a drop in attendance under conditions of persecution (if life and limb were threatened)? ______ If a person in the tribulation does not ENDURE (same word as in Luke 8:15–”patience”) to the end, what does this indicate (Matthew 24:13)? Circle the correct answer: a. His defection proved that he lost his salvation. b. His defection proved that he was never really saved in the first place. Those who are truly saints in the tribulation will do what (Matthew 24:13)? ______________________________________________________________________
    Answer the following True or False:

    ________ To be saved an unsaved person in the tribulation must endure to the end (see Acts 16:30-31).
    ________A saved tribulation saint will endure to the end. God will preserve him and carry him through.
    ________The reason a tribulation saint is able to endure to the end is because he is saved and kept by the power of God.
    ________ If a person claiming to be a believer does not endure to the end and decides instead to identify with the Antichrist and his system (by taking the mark, etc.), this proves that his profession was not a true possession.
    Remember, enduring to the end is not something that a person does not be saved; it is something that a saved person does. It is an evidence of salvation not a condition of salvation.

    8. THE SHIP OF FAITH illustration (ACTS 27:22-25,31,44).

    The Ship of Acts 27

    In Acts 27 we have the account of Paul and others in his ship being caught in a violent storm. From every indication it seemed that all the men would perish in the sea. But God had other plans. How many of the crewmen would be lost (Acts 27:22)? __________How many would be saved (Acts 27:24)? ______ Who said so (Acts 27:25)? ________ Although the safety of all on board was promised by God, in verse 31 Paul warns them to ______________ in the ship. This warning was necessary because in verse 30 we learn that the crewmen were about to abandon ship. If they had left the ship, would they have been saved (verse 31)? _____ Did they ALL remain in the ship as Paul told them to do in verse 31? ______ Were they ALL saved (verse 44)?_______ ship1.gif (8595 bytes)
    The Ship of Faith

    Every believer is on the ship of faith (John 6:47; Acts 16:31). Will any of these believers be lost (John 10:28-30)? _____ Who said so? __________Even though the safety of all true believers is promised by God, yet God still gives strong WARNINGS to believers and tells them to TAKE HEED lest they should __________________ from the living God and become APOSTATES (Hebrews 3:12). God encourages believers to STAY IN THE SHIP (see Col. 1:23”_____________________ in the faith”; Acts13:43”__________________ in the grace of God”; Acts 14:22”___________________in the faith”). ship2.gif (8595 bytes)
    Just as God used Paul’s warning as a MEANS of keeping the crewmen safe, so God uses many warnings (such as we find in Hebrews 3:6,12,14; 1 Cor. 15:2; Heb. 10:38; etc.) as a MEANS of keeping the believer safe and secure in Christ forever. In a similar way, a loving parent may gave a young child very strong warnings about the dangers of walking out into the street. The purpose of these warnings is to keep the child safe. The parent could reassure the child by saying, “You will not be hit by a car if you stay off the road and don’t even go near the road.” It would be foolish to say, “You will not be hit by a car so you can go anywhere you want to go.” Likewise God would never say, “Since you are saved and eternally secure, you can live any way you please and you can turn away from Christ and abandon the faith if you wish.”

    Think again of the illustration in Acts 27. Who was it that really kept the crewmen safe (circle the correct answer):

    The crewmen kept themselves safe because they remained in the ship (v.31).
    God kept the crewmen safe (v.24).
    Now apply this to the believer and circle the correct answer:

    The believer keeps himself safe and secure in Christ by continuing in the faith.
    God keeps the believer safe and secure in Christ (1 Pet. 1:5; John 17:12).
    Answer True or False:

    _______ The true believer is like a man on a ship. He may fall again and again on the deck, but he will never fall overboard.
    _______ Judas’ fall (betraying Christ) was fatal, thus proving that he was never a true believer.
    _______ Peter’s fall (denying Christ) was fatal, thus proving that he was never a true believer.
    Peter fell hard on the deck, as it were, but did he recover (Luke 22:31-32)? _______ Does God keep us apart from faith (whether we keep on believing in Him or not) or does God keep us through faith (1 Peter 1:5)? ___________________________________________________ God keeps us faithful!

    9. JOHN 10:27-30. Who are the only ones who can claim the promises given in verses 28-30 (see verse 27)? _________________________________________ A true SHEEP does two things according to verse 27: 1) __________________________________________ 2)___________________________________ If a person does not listen to God’s Word and does not follow Christ, what must we conclude? ________________________________________________

    10. PRACTICAL EXAMPLES.

    A. “I was once a member of a young people’s gospel team. We were all saved, and we had some success in preaching the Gospel. But one member of the team got into worldly company. He married a very worldly girl. He denied his Christian profession of faith, and he died a drunkard. Now you see, he was a Christian; he went to heaven; but he was a carnal Christian and he did not have the reward of a spiritual Christian.” We know that only God knows the hearts of men, yet, in the light of our study, would you say that this person was probably saved (as the above paragraph claims) or probably unsaved? _____________________

    Note: Were the Corinthian believers carnal (1 Cor. 3:1-4)? ______ Would these Corinthian believers continue in the faith unto the end (1 Cor. 1:8)? _________ Beware lest we use carnality as an excuse. Many who might claim to be carnal believers might be headed for eternal destruction. Paul assumed that the Corinthian believers were HOLDING FAST to the gospel that he preached to them (1 Cor. 15:2). Some who think that they are carnal and think they will be saved so as by fire will really be lost so as by fire (the lake of fire). Some who think they will be saved by the “skin of their teeth” will actually be lost in the lake of fire where there will be “weeping and gnashing” of their teeth.

    B. A chapel speaker once said, “Dear young people, there are two ways to go to heaven, the spiritual way and the carnal way. It is so much better to take the spiritual way!” One young person thought to himself, “I am a Christian, but I do not mind sitting in the bleachers. I choose to go to heaven the carnal way!” In light of our study, do you think this is the attitude a true believer should have? _______

    C. Many people profess to be Christians, but their daily lives do not differ from thousands of unbelievers all around them. They are rarely, if ever, found at the prayer meeting. They have no family worship; they seldom read the Scriptures; they will not talk with you about the things of God; their walk is thoroughly worldly; yet they are quite sure they are bound for heaven! You ask them how they know they are saved and they will tell you that many years ago they “accepted” Christ and “once saved always saved” is now their comfort. Are they really giving evidence that they are truly saved? ______It’s true that if a person is once saved, he will always be saved, but each person needs to make sure that he is really saved ONCE FOR ALL, FOREVER by the grace of God!

    D. Thomas Cranmer was the moving force of the Protestant Reformation in the mid 16th century in England. In 1555 he was excommunicated by the Roman Catholic Church in Rome. As pressures mounted Cranmer weakened and he even signed a statement in which he denied the Christian faith. Just before he was to be put to death by Queen Mary (who was strongly Catholic and who caused almost 300 people to be burned, thus earning for herself the name “BLOODY MARY”) he renounced his denial, and once more and in the strongest terms declared his faith in Christ. In dramatic fashion he showed how he felt about his denial of the principles of the Reformation. The hand which had signed the denial he held firmly in the flames until it was burned to a crisp. Then the flames scorched his body, and he died the death of a martyr. Do you think you will someday see Thomas Cranmer in heaven (Rev. 2:10-11)? ___________.

    Congratulations, you have complete the NEW BELIEVER NOTES. You have looked up hundreds of verses and we trust that God has taught you precious truths from His Word. If you send us these pages, we will be happy to correct them and return them to you.

    George Zeller
    Middletown Bible Church
    349 East Street
    Middletown, CT 06457

    May you have and enjoy God’s very best in Christ Jesus!

    http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/nbelieve/nbeliev8.htm

  • The Muslim Brotherhood Colonizes America and the Press Says Nothing

    03/24/2015 5:37:14 PM PDT · 4 of 12
    RaceBannon to dvan

    THE UNITED WEST-SEMINAR JULY 24, 2012 - THE FIRST, SECOND, and THIRD SESSION

    The American West, a group led by Tom Trento, held a seminar on the threat to the United States by Islamists, specifically, the Muslim Brotherhood, with a series of sessions led by Tom Trento and John Guandolo, former Marine and FBI Agent of 12 years.

    This is an excellent series. Each video is approximately 2 hours long. There are two more videos to follow. COPY these videos and distribute it to all your church members, friends and family.

    1st: http://youtu.be/qxP6dJL0G4A

    2nd : http://youtu.be/fCa5zm8i0Ks

    3rd: http://youtu.be/hNaqA_DmrM0

    Andrew McCarthy on the Muslim Brotherhood and huma Abadin and hillary
    1:30 minutes
    http://youtu.be/AjY9xKd0EGU

    Here is Robert Spencer discussion Brennan’s conversion with John Guandolo:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRZcI_Dk0Mk

    The sister in-law of Tony Blair, the former Prime Minister of England, Lauren Booth, is now a Muslim and here she is at a Mosque in California:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yNlOVQ4R2U

    The Muslim Brotherhood in America, 10 part series, exposing Islamist influence in the United States, including such persons as Grover Norquist.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul2hpEOngyo&list=SPF834C7965BEA6BCC&feature=plcp

    Frank Gaffney, the Center for Security policy
    https://www.facebook.com/#!/securefreedom

    Steve Coughlin, on Islam and the West, the Muslim Brotherhood
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhZe7eZK4dw&feature=bf_prev&list=SP4C29D87AA600650F

    Bill Warner on Islam
    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Bill+Warner+Islam%2C+long&lclk=long

    GLENN BECK
    The Project
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcPIaEVrS8U&list=UUfwzGhe9U4UnbYl60Tud9ww&index=3

    EGYPTIAN NEWSPAPER SAYS OBAMA ADMINSTRATION IS INFILTRATED BY MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD
    http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-perspective/010913-640022-infiltration-by-muslim-brotherhood-worse-than-thought.htm

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/09/shocking-report-egyptian-media-says-obama-is-a-muslim-brotherhood-member/
    Shocking Report! Egyptian Media Says Obama is a Muslim Brotherhood Member
    Posted by Gateway Guest Blogger on Monday, September 2, 2013, 1:46 PM

    Claire lopez, CIA agent and terrorism expert:
    HISBULLAH CELLS REFORMING
    http://lopez.pundicity.com/13262/iranian-hezbollah-terror-cells

    What is ISlam?
    What did Mohammed himself say it was?
    http://www.politicalislam.com/blog/mohammeds-litmus-test/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AU13D4ZPtQM
    Published on Jul 25, 2013
    Recently, The United West Savannah, GA operation sponsored a National Security Briefing featuring Clare Lopez, former CIA operations Officer and currently a Fellow with Center for Security Policy and the Clarion Fund. Clare, one of the world’s top experts on the Muslim Brotherhood hits this one out of the park as she systematically and comprehensively details the origin, growth and current influence capabilities of this cultural terrorist organization. Most shocking is the deep penetration and overwhelming influence the MB have with President Obama and his Administration. Tune in for a first class national security brief!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqtJrJ40Cio
    Watch these Navy SEAL Team VI families and other family members as they reveal the Obama Administrations culpability in death of their sons in the fatal helicopter crash in Afghanistan following the successful raid on bin Laden’s compound. This is a powerful and riveting briefing thatincluded some of America’s most significant military leaders.

    Grover Norquist says ending birthright citizenship equals a tax increase
    http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2012/03/anti-tax-activist-grover-norquist-says-ending-birthright-citizenship-equals-a-tax-increase/

    CPAC’s Grover Norquist Joins Obama Push For Illegal Alien Amnesty
    http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/02/25/cpacs-grover-norquist-joins-obama-push-for-illegal-alien-amnesty/

    A Troubling Influence (Grover Norquist’s Islamist Connections
    http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=15084

    Grover Norquist’s New Muslim Protégé
    http://frontpagemag.com/2011/09/26/grover-norquists-new-muslim-protege/

    Frank Gaffney on Grover Norquist and the Muslim Brotherhood
    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&ved=0CG4QtwIwCQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dfbyiz97lA78&ei=FrBmT6nsN-Pq0gGxxYy2CA&usg=AFQjCNF-gIk_XD1FHtk36G6So5pO44cXgQ&sig2=uD5sleJkQt6tdeJriqDZHQ

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/03/grover_norquists_jihad.html

    http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/25/cpac-shills-for-islamic-terrorists/

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/03/pamela-geller-american-thinker-grover-norquists-jihad.html

    http://1389blog.com/category/politics/clinton/

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/dhimmitude_north_american_style/

    Why We Should Fear Islam? Dr. Bill Warner
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y&feature=g-hist

    The whole administration is stocked with islamic sympatizers!!!

    Can It All Be Coincidence?
    http://www.themoralliberal.com/2012/10/03/can-it-all-be-coincidence/

    Soldier tries to warn of the dangers of Islam!
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3148562/posts

    Three Star General - Muslim Influence has penetrated Pentagon
    http://patdollard.com/2012/09/three-star-general-muslim-brotherhood-has-infiltrated-department-of-defense/

    CIA Hosting Muslim Terrorists!
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/10/23/CIA-Hosts-Training-By-Muslim-Brotherhood-Leader-and-Hamas-Supporter

    Muslim Brotherhood Infiltrates the White House!
    http://www.investigativeproject.org/3869/egyptian-magazine-muslim-brotherhood-infiltrates

    Who are the Palestinians REALLY?
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=19713

    Remember what Eric Nordstrom said in a Congressional hearing Oct 10, 2012 ….”The Taliban is on the inside of the building”

    Okay, in case you never hear this from Obama, here is what muslims say when we arent around, this is what they REALLY think, in their own words:
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e9b_1421092375

  • Chief Justice John Roberts Signed Off To Remove Obama from office for These 25 Charges of Treason

    03/24/2015 9:06:25 AM PDT · 2 of 100
    RaceBannon to ShadowAce

    how does INTERPOL affect our own constitution and our Congressional need to file these charges??

  • Rejecting Mariology

    03/24/2015 9:04:53 AM PDT · 172 of 336
    RaceBannon to paladinan

    nice try, but Biblically wrong

    The Bible clearly says Jesus had brothers and maybe sisters

  • Rejecting Mariology

    03/23/2015 3:13:18 PM PDT · 33 of 336
    RaceBannon to paladinan

    no, Mary gave birth to several children according to the Bible

    Mt 1:25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

    Firstborn, meaning more than one

    Mt 12:46 While he yet talked to the people, behold, [his] mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.
    Mt 12:47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
    Mt 12:48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
    Mt 12:49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
    Mt 12:50 For who soever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

    Here, Jesus rebuked the crowd, plainly saying that even though his siblings were present, that those who believed on Him were brothers, also, not just blood relations

    The Apostle James is called the Lord’s Brother, family, blood brother
    Gal 1:18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.
    Gal 1:19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord’s brother.

  • Rejecting Mariology

    03/23/2015 2:59:34 PM PDT · 25 of 336
    RaceBannon to Salvation

    HE told me to do what HE says, too
    You seem to skip over who is more important

  • Rejecting Mariology

    03/23/2015 2:29:56 PM PDT · 7 of 336
    RaceBannon to MeganC; RnMomof7

    promoting a sinful woman who needed a savior who was rebuked by the Son of God and elevating her to the status equal of godhood is blasphemy

    Lk 1:46 And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,
    Lk 1:47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.

    Lk 11:27 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed [is] the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked.
    Lk 11:28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed [are] they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

    Jn 2:1 And the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and the mother of Jesus was there:
    Jn 2:2 And both Jesus was called, and his disciples, to the marriage.
    Jn 2:3 And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine.
    Jn 2:4 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.

  • FLASHBACK: Ex-FBI Agent Claims Ex-CIA Chief John Brennan Converted To Islam In Saudi Arabia

    03/22/2015 1:25:32 PM PDT · 26 of 39
    RaceBannon to E. Pluribus Unum

    THE UNITED WEST-SEMINAR JULY 24, 2012 - THE FIRST, SECOND, and THIRD SESSION

    The American West, a group led by Tom Trento, held a seminar on the threat to the United States by Islamists, specifically, the Muslim Brotherhood, with a series of sessions led by Tom Trento and John Guandolo, former Marine and FBI Agent of 12 years.

    This is an excellent series. Each video is approximately 2 hours long. There are two more videos to follow. COPY these videos and distribute it to all your church members, friends and family.

    1st: http://youtu.be/qxP6dJL0G4A

    2nd : http://youtu.be/fCa5zm8i0Ks

    3rd: http://youtu.be/hNaqA_DmrM0

  • Just Write #STFU On That Starbucks Cup (Since This Essay Won't Fit)

    03/21/2015 3:55:34 AM PDT · 43 of 55
    RaceBannon to Rodamala

    venti white mocha...only $4.75! For 20 ounces!

  • Iran endorses nuclear EMP attack on United States while Obama clings to ‘preposterous argument’

    03/20/2015 2:51:38 PM PDT · 10 of 12
    RaceBannon to Perseverando

    Just attended a conference last sat with impact. Got to shake Cruz’s hand, too ;)

  • A Complete Timeline Of Obama's Anti-Israel Hatred

    03/20/2015 2:49:10 PM PDT · 9 of 12
    RaceBannon to Biggirl

    Bump

  • It’s 1979 in America

    03/20/2015 2:51:39 AM PDT · 14 of 28
    RaceBannon to GeronL

    I shook Cruz’s hand last Saturday :)

  • Malcolm Fraser dead at 84: Former P(rime) M(inister) (of Australia) passes away

    03/19/2015 5:06:42 PM PDT · 5 of 7
    RaceBannon to naturalman1975

    I’ll never forget his name
    in 1980, two Australian gals were talking to me, one said how worldly ignorant Americans were, they asked me who Malcom frazier was

    I said, I dunno, a boxer?

  • "Hey handicap" letter stuns, outrages disabled Ohio woman

    03/19/2015 3:29:26 PM PDT · 21 of 65
    RaceBannon to The Final Harvest

    I parked in a handicapped spot of a business that was closed for the day in 1985

    It was a town hall, closed, it was an old school, we had our Tae Kwon Do classes in the old gym

    I got a $250 ticket for parking in a handicapped spot for a closed business!

    That got me

  • Residents fume as HMAS Canberra blocks their view, keeps them awake (Australia's newest warship)

    03/19/2015 2:36:03 PM PDT · 48 of 55
    RaceBannon to Oztrich Boy

    we were told it was the Canberra over the 1MC (Ship’s loudspeaker)

  • anyone else have a problem with pages loading???

    03/18/2015 3:29:35 PM PDT · 31 of 41
    RaceBannon to b4its2late

    forget it, I spoke too soon

  • anyone else have a problem with pages loading???

    03/18/2015 3:28:37 PM PDT · 30 of 41
    RaceBannon to b4its2late

    I dumped even more temp files, changed that setting before I read this, and for some reason, it loads okay

    both in IE and Chrome

    Hmmmmm

  • anyone else have a problem with pages loading???

    03/18/2015 3:02:15 PM PDT · 23 of 41
    RaceBannon to Tenacious 1

    that was me who said that...and it was the SHOWER, not the tub!

  • anyone else have a problem with pages loading???

    03/18/2015 3:01:30 PM PDT · 19 of 41
    RaceBannon to spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

    all the time

  • anyone else have a problem with pages loading???

    03/18/2015 2:52:25 PM PDT · 11 of 41
    RaceBannon to RaceBannon

    actually, IE aint working either

    No other website has this issue

  • anyone else have a problem with pages loading???

    03/18/2015 2:51:13 PM PDT · 8 of 41
    RaceBannon to RaceBannon

    IE was dying on me here, so I switched to CHROME

    Now CHROME is dying on me and IE works fine!!

    ITS BUSH’S FAULT!

  • anyone else have a problem with pages loading???

    03/18/2015 2:47:29 PM PDT · 3 of 41
    RaceBannon to RaceBannon; Admin Moderator

    moose, cheese, sister, kowabunga

  • anyone else have a problem with pages loading???

    03/18/2015 2:46:09 PM PDT · 1 of 41
    RaceBannon
  • Residents fume as HMAS Canberra blocks their view, keeps them awake (Australia's newest warship)

    03/18/2015 2:44:25 PM PDT · 18 of 55
    RaceBannon to naturalman1975
    oops

    HMAS Canberra (How do the Aussies label their ships, anyways?)

  • Residents fume as HMAS Canberra blocks their view, keeps them awake (Australia's newest warship)

    03/18/2015 2:42:19 PM PDT · 15 of 55
    RaceBannon to naturalman1975

    USS Canberra in 1980 in the Pacific Ocean, near the Philippines, WESPAC 1980, about February

  • The Serious St. Patrick

  • U.S. Omits Iran and Hezbollah From Terror Threat List

    03/17/2015 12:13:09 AM PDT · 13 of 29
    RaceBannon to piasa
  • Peter is NOT the Rock of Matthew 16

    03/16/2015 4:24:21 PM PDT · 202 of 203
    RaceBannon to rwa265

    would you accept Paul? The Apostle to the Gentiles?
    If you cant contain, then Marry.
    This applies to all men.

    1Cor 7:1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: [It is] good for a man not to touch a woman.
    1Cor 7:2 Nevertheless, [to avoid] fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
    1Cor 7:3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
    1Cor 7:4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
    1Cor 7:5 Defraud ye not one the other, except [it be] with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.
    1Cor 7:6 But I speak this by permission, [and] not of commandment.
    1Cor 7:7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.
    1Cor 7:8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I.
    1Cor 7:9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

  • Peter is NOT the Rock of Matthew 16

    03/16/2015 4:16:19 PM PDT · 201 of 203
    RaceBannon to Freedom_Is_Not_Free

    I was very surprised at how fast this one grew long!

  • US Intel. scraps Iran, Hezbollah from terrorist threats lists [Beirut Marine Alert]

    03/16/2015 2:29:01 PM PDT · 50 of 68
    RaceBannon to huldah1776

    I had recently read it was Weinberger and baker that stopped Reagan from bombing hiz bullah then, Reagan did want to
    Took 30 years to hear it for me

  • Pope says Koran is a book of peace and Islam is a peaceful religion

  • Pope says Koran is a book of peace and Islam is a peaceful religion

  • Pope says Koran is a book of peace and Islam is a peaceful religion

    03/15/2015 5:42:27 AM PDT · 161 of 163
    RaceBannon to jobim

    I agree, but if he denounced the idea that Islam is violent, as the persons he quoted did, would THAT not be bigger news?

    His quotation of them, with no further video, leads me to believe that the news organization, itself concerned with it’s integrity or slandering or misquoting the Pope, also, wrote a headline where the Pope called Islam a peaceful religion.

    They would not, under just a simple showing of that video, come to any other observation than you and others did, to just say he was quoting others.

    So...Quoting them? Or agreeing with them?
    If he did NOT agree with them and he believe d Islam was evil and violent, would that NOT be a bigger story?
    His quoting of others, allows him to express the view that he Agrees with them, and it looks like he didnt say it himself, ut soemone else said it...but what does the headline say?

    The headline says HE believes it.

    I admit, it is a derived conclusion, but if he did agree, he doesn’t have to say, “I AGREE” so much, he already allows Muslims to pray in the vatican, and I posted those articles in this thread, too

    No. this video does make the strong implication he agrees, along with the other news articles, just GOOGLE POPE + ISLAM + VATICAN + MOSQUE

    The Pope just prayed in a Turkish Mosque last week, too

    I am surprised Joel Osteen or Rick Warren wasn’t with him

  • MH370: Aviation Expert Jeff Wise Spells out his Theory

    03/15/2015 5:36:04 AM PDT · 32 of 57
    RaceBannon to nickcarraway

    I know a few professional conspiracy theorists, one who shocked me into finishing my sentence about someone and her girlfriend who traveled with her, telling me her last name, and that was not public at all, and very few knew she was with her these times.

    Anyways, he has become an itinerant speaker of sorts, and he believes it is General’s Mcinerney’s(SP?) theory that is correct, such as this one, that the plane is in Russia.

    It is the reason it was taken over that I heard recently, from him, that is amazing.

    The newer stealth technology? The creation of a surface that bends light around an object?

    The Chinese scientists who were on that flight? That was one of their projects.

    And everyone else is just collateral damage.

  • 'Zebra Killer' J.C.X. Simon Found Dead In San Quentin Prison Cell

  • 'Zebra Killer' J.C.X. Simon Found Dead In San Quentin Prison Cell

  • Pope says Koran is a book of peace and Islam is a peaceful religion

    03/14/2015 2:51:54 AM PDT · 118 of 163
    RaceBannon to Steelfish

    not at all

    For the first time in history, Islamic prayers and readings from the Quran will be heard at the Vatican on Sunday, in a move by Pope Francis to usher in peace between Israelis and Palestinians.
    Francis issued the invitation to Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas during his visit last week to Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian Authority.
    http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2014/06/06/Islamic-prayers-to-be-held-at-the-Vatican.html

    Rick Warren builds bridge to Muslims
    Through years of outreach, Saddleback Church pastor Rick Warren is part of an effort named King’s Way that’s attempting to bring evangelical Christians and Muslims together. By JIM HINCH / FOR THE REGISTER
    Published: Feb. 23, 2012 Updated: Aug. 21, 2013 1:17 p.m.
    The Rev. Rick Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest and one of America’s most influential Christian leaders, has embarked on an effort to heal divisions between evangelical Christians and Muslims by partnering with Southern California mosques and proposing a set of theological principles that includes acknowledging that Christians and Muslims worship the same God.
    The effort, informally dubbed King’s Way, caps years of outreach between Warren and Muslims. Warren has broken Ramadan fasts at a Mission Viejo mosque, met Muslim leaders abroad and addressed 8,000 Muslims at a national convention in Washington D.C.
    Saddleback worshippers have invited Muslims to Christmas dinner and played interfaith soccer at a picnic in Irvine attended by more than 300 people.
    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/muslims-341669-warren-saddleback.html

    This is even more amazing, knowing that their prayer led by a Muslim at the Vatican, contained verses from the Koran that condemned the unbeliever with death, and what was supposed to be a meeting of peace and reconciliation:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNnFQgGY25s
    “On June 8, 2014 — Pentecost Sunday — the Vatican hosted an “interfaith event” that included prayers by Christian priests, a Jewish rabbi, and a Muslim imam. The occasion waswell-publicized in advance by the Holy See as a “pause in politics” that would promote peace between the Israel and the Palestinians.
    During his visit to Israel and the Palestinian Authority the previous month, Pope Francis had invited Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to attend the event. Both leaders accepted the invitation, and sat with the Pope while prayers were said and chanted in the Vatican garden.
    The imam, however, went beyond the script that had been handed to the Vatican in advance. He included in his chanted prayer verses 284-286 of Sura 2 in the Koran, the last part of which calls for Allah to grant the Muslims victory over the infidels. His words were broadcast live to a television audience, but they were in Arabic, so most non-Muslim viewers had no idea what he had said.”
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/ned-may/the-vatican-falls-for-the-interfaith-scam/?utm_source=FrontPage+Magazine&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4dbe9dac3f-Mailchimp_FrontPageMag&utm_term=0_57e32c1dad-4dbe9dac3f-156515509

    Sura 2: Unto Allah (belongeth) whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth; and whether ye make known what is in your minds or hide it, Allah will bring you to account for it. He will forgive whom He will and He will punish whom He will. Allah is Able to do all things. (284) The messenger believeth in that which hath been revealed unto him from his Lord and (so do) believers. Each one believeth in Allah and His angels and His scriptures and His messengers - We make no distinction between any of His messengers - and they say: We hear, and we obey. (Grant us) Thy forgiveness, our Lord. Unto Thee is the journeying. (285) Allah tasketh not a soul beyond its scope. For it (is only) that which it hath earned, and against it (only) that which it hath deserved. Our Lord! Condemn us not if we forget, or miss the mark! Our Lord! Lay not on us such a burden as thou didst lay on those before us! Our Lord! Impose not on us that which we have not the strength to bear! Pardon us, absolve us and have mercy on us, Thou, our Protector, and give us victory over the disbelieving folk. (286)

  • Pope says Koran is a book of peace and Islam is a peaceful religion

    03/14/2015 2:51:11 AM PDT · 117 of 163
    RaceBannon to Lurkinanloomin

    For the first time in history, Islamic prayers and readings from the Quran will be heard at the Vatican on Sunday, in a move by Pope Francis to usher in peace between Israelis and Palestinians.
    Francis issued the invitation to Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas during his visit last week to Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian Authority.
    http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2014/06/06/Islamic-prayers-to-be-held-at-the-Vatican.html

    Rick Warren builds bridge to Muslims
    Through years of outreach, Saddleback Church pastor Rick Warren is part of an effort named King’s Way that’s attempting to bring evangelical Christians and Muslims together. By JIM HINCH / FOR THE REGISTER
    Published: Feb. 23, 2012 Updated: Aug. 21, 2013 1:17 p.m.
    The Rev. Rick Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest and one of America’s most influential Christian leaders, has embarked on an effort to heal divisions between evangelical Christians and Muslims by partnering with Southern California mosques and proposing a set of theological principles that includes acknowledging that Christians and Muslims worship the same God.
    The effort, informally dubbed King’s Way, caps years of outreach between Warren and Muslims. Warren has broken Ramadan fasts at a Mission Viejo mosque, met Muslim leaders abroad and addressed 8,000 Muslims at a national convention in Washington D.C.
    Saddleback worshippers have invited Muslims to Christmas dinner and played interfaith soccer at a picnic in Irvine attended by more than 300 people.
    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/muslims-341669-warren-saddleback.html

    This is even more amazing, knowing that their prayer led by a Muslim at the Vatican, contained verses from the Koran that condemned the unbeliever with death, and what was supposed to be a meeting of peace and reconciliation:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNnFQgGY25s
    “On June 8, 2014 — Pentecost Sunday — the Vatican hosted an “interfaith event” that included prayers by Christian priests, a Jewish rabbi, and a Muslim imam. The occasion waswell-publicized in advance by the Holy See as a “pause in politics” that would promote peace between the Israel and the Palestinians.
    During his visit to Israel and the Palestinian Authority the previous month, Pope Francis had invited Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to attend the event. Both leaders accepted the invitation, and sat with the Pope while prayers were said and chanted in the Vatican garden.
    The imam, however, went beyond the script that had been handed to the Vatican in advance. He included in his chanted prayer verses 284-286 of Sura 2 in the Koran, the last part of which calls for Allah to grant the Muslims victory over the infidels. His words were broadcast live to a television audience, but they were in Arabic, so most non-Muslim viewers had no idea what he had said.”
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/ned-may/the-vatican-falls-for-the-interfaith-scam/?utm_source=FrontPage+Magazine&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4dbe9dac3f-Mailchimp_FrontPageMag&utm_term=0_57e32c1dad-4dbe9dac3f-156515509

    Sura 2: Unto Allah (belongeth) whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth; and whether ye make known what is in your minds or hide it, Allah will bring you to account for it. He will forgive whom He will and He will punish whom He will. Allah is Able to do all things. (284) The messenger believeth in that which hath been revealed unto him from his Lord and (so do) believers. Each one believeth in Allah and His angels and His scriptures and His messengers - We make no distinction between any of His messengers - and they say: We hear, and we obey. (Grant us) Thy forgiveness, our Lord. Unto Thee is the journeying. (285) Allah tasketh not a soul beyond its scope. For it (is only) that which it hath earned, and against it (only) that which it hath deserved. Our Lord! Condemn us not if we forget, or miss the mark! Our Lord! Lay not on us such a burden as thou didst lay on those before us! Our Lord! Impose not on us that which we have not the strength to bear! Pardon us, absolve us and have mercy on us, Thou, our Protector, and give us victory over the disbelieving folk. (286)

  • Pope says Koran is a book of peace and Islam is a peaceful religion

    03/14/2015 2:50:03 AM PDT · 116 of 163
    RaceBannon to Carpe Cerevisi

    For the first time in history, Islamic prayers and readings from the Quran will be heard at the Vatican on Sunday, in a move by Pope Francis to usher in peace between Israelis and Palestinians.
    Francis issued the invitation to Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas during his visit last week to Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian Authority.
    http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2014/06/06/Islamic-prayers-to-be-held-at-the-Vatican.html

    Rick Warren builds bridge to Muslims
    Through years of outreach, Saddleback Church pastor Rick Warren is part of an effort named King’s Way that’s attempting to bring evangelical Christians and Muslims together. By JIM HINCH / FOR THE REGISTER
    Published: Feb. 23, 2012 Updated: Aug. 21, 2013 1:17 p.m.
    The Rev. Rick Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest and one of America’s most influential Christian leaders, has embarked on an effort to heal divisions between evangelical Christians and Muslims by partnering with Southern California mosques and proposing a set of theological principles that includes acknowledging that Christians and Muslims worship the same God.
    The effort, informally dubbed King’s Way, caps years of outreach between Warren and Muslims. Warren has broken Ramadan fasts at a Mission Viejo mosque, met Muslim leaders abroad and addressed 8,000 Muslims at a national convention in Washington D.C.
    Saddleback worshippers have invited Muslims to Christmas dinner and played interfaith soccer at a picnic in Irvine attended by more than 300 people.
    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/muslims-341669-warren-saddleback.html

    This is even more amazing, knowing that their prayer led by a Muslim at the Vatican, contained verses from the Koran that condemned the unbeliever with death, and what was supposed to be a meeting of peace and reconciliation:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNnFQgGY25s
    “On June 8, 2014 — Pentecost Sunday — the Vatican hosted an “interfaith event” that included prayers by Christian priests, a Jewish rabbi, and a Muslim imam. The occasion waswell-publicized in advance by the Holy See as a “pause in politics” that would promote peace between the Israel and the Palestinians.
    During his visit to Israel and the Palestinian Authority the previous month, Pope Francis had invited Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to attend the event. Both leaders accepted the invitation, and sat with the Pope while prayers were said and chanted in the Vatican garden.
    The imam, however, went beyond the script that had been handed to the Vatican in advance. He included in his chanted prayer verses 284-286 of Sura 2 in the Koran, the last part of which calls for Allah to grant the Muslims victory over the infidels. His words were broadcast live to a television audience, but they were in Arabic, so most non-Muslim viewers had no idea what he had said.”
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/ned-may/the-vatican-falls-for-the-interfaith-scam/?utm_source=FrontPage+Magazine&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4dbe9dac3f-Mailchimp_FrontPageMag&utm_term=0_57e32c1dad-4dbe9dac3f-156515509

    Sura 2: Unto Allah (belongeth) whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth; and whether ye make known what is in your minds or hide it, Allah will bring you to account for it. He will forgive whom He will and He will punish whom He will. Allah is Able to do all things. (284) The messenger believeth in that which hath been revealed unto him from his Lord and (so do) believers. Each one believeth in Allah and His angels and His scriptures and His messengers - We make no distinction between any of His messengers - and they say: We hear, and we obey. (Grant us) Thy forgiveness, our Lord. Unto Thee is the journeying. (285) Allah tasketh not a soul beyond its scope. For it (is only) that which it hath earned, and against it (only) that which it hath deserved. Our Lord! Condemn us not if we forget, or miss the mark! Our Lord! Lay not on us such a burden as thou didst lay on those before us! Our Lord! Impose not on us that which we have not the strength to bear! Pardon us, absolve us and have mercy on us, Thou, our Protector, and give us victory over the disbelieving folk. (286)

  • Pope says Koran is a book of peace and Islam is a peaceful religion

    03/14/2015 2:49:45 AM PDT · 115 of 163
    RaceBannon to jobim

    For the first time in history, Islamic prayers and readings from the Quran will be heard at the Vatican on Sunday, in a move by Pope Francis to usher in peace between Israelis and Palestinians.
    Francis issued the invitation to Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas during his visit last week to Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian Authority.
    http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2014/06/06/Islamic-prayers-to-be-held-at-the-Vatican.html

    Rick Warren builds bridge to Muslims
    Through years of outreach, Saddleback Church pastor Rick Warren is part of an effort named King’s Way that’s attempting to bring evangelical Christians and Muslims together. By JIM HINCH / FOR THE REGISTER
    Published: Feb. 23, 2012 Updated: Aug. 21, 2013 1:17 p.m.
    The Rev. Rick Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest and one of America’s most influential Christian leaders, has embarked on an effort to heal divisions between evangelical Christians and Muslims by partnering with Southern California mosques and proposing a set of theological principles that includes acknowledging that Christians and Muslims worship the same God.
    The effort, informally dubbed King’s Way, caps years of outreach between Warren and Muslims. Warren has broken Ramadan fasts at a Mission Viejo mosque, met Muslim leaders abroad and addressed 8,000 Muslims at a national convention in Washington D.C.
    Saddleback worshippers have invited Muslims to Christmas dinner and played interfaith soccer at a picnic in Irvine attended by more than 300 people.
    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/muslims-341669-warren-saddleback.html

    This is even more amazing, knowing that their prayer led by a Muslim at the Vatican, contained verses from the Koran that condemned the unbeliever with death, and what was supposed to be a meeting of peace and reconciliation:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNnFQgGY25s
    “On June 8, 2014 — Pentecost Sunday — the Vatican hosted an “interfaith event” that included prayers by Christian priests, a Jewish rabbi, and a Muslim imam. The occasion waswell-publicized in advance by the Holy See as a “pause in politics” that would promote peace between the Israel and the Palestinians.
    During his visit to Israel and the Palestinian Authority the previous month, Pope Francis had invited Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to attend the event. Both leaders accepted the invitation, and sat with the Pope while prayers were said and chanted in the Vatican garden.
    The imam, however, went beyond the script that had been handed to the Vatican in advance. He included in his chanted prayer verses 284-286 of Sura 2 in the Koran, the last part of which calls for Allah to grant the Muslims victory over the infidels. His words were broadcast live to a television audience, but they were in Arabic, so most non-Muslim viewers had no idea what he had said.”
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/ned-may/the-vatican-falls-for-the-interfaith-scam/?utm_source=FrontPage+Magazine&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4dbe9dac3f-Mailchimp_FrontPageMag&utm_term=0_57e32c1dad-4dbe9dac3f-156515509

    Sura 2: Unto Allah (belongeth) whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth; and whether ye make known what is in your minds or hide it, Allah will bring you to account for it. He will forgive whom He will and He will punish whom He will. Allah is Able to do all things. (284) The messenger believeth in that which hath been revealed unto him from his Lord and (so do) believers. Each one believeth in Allah and His angels and His scriptures and His messengers - We make no distinction between any of His messengers - and they say: We hear, and we obey. (Grant us) Thy forgiveness, our Lord. Unto Thee is the journeying. (285) Allah tasketh not a soul beyond its scope. For it (is only) that which it hath earned, and against it (only) that which it hath deserved. Our Lord! Condemn us not if we forget, or miss the mark! Our Lord! Lay not on us such a burden as thou didst lay on those before us! Our Lord! Impose not on us that which we have not the strength to bear! Pardon us, absolve us and have mercy on us, Thou, our Protector, and give us victory over the disbelieving folk. (286)

  • Pope says Koran is a book of peace and Islam is a peaceful religion

    03/14/2015 2:49:19 AM PDT · 114 of 163
    RaceBannon to Pikachu_Dad

    For the first time in history, Islamic prayers and readings from the Quran will be heard at the Vatican on Sunday, in a move by Pope Francis to usher in peace between Israelis and Palestinians.
    Francis issued the invitation to Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas during his visit last week to Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian Authority.
    http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2014/06/06/Islamic-prayers-to-be-held-at-the-Vatican.html

    Rick Warren builds bridge to Muslims
    Through years of outreach, Saddleback Church pastor Rick Warren is part of an effort named King’s Way that’s attempting to bring evangelical Christians and Muslims together. By JIM HINCH / FOR THE REGISTER
    Published: Feb. 23, 2012 Updated: Aug. 21, 2013 1:17 p.m.
    The Rev. Rick Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest and one of America’s most influential Christian leaders, has embarked on an effort to heal divisions between evangelical Christians and Muslims by partnering with Southern California mosques and proposing a set of theological principles that includes acknowledging that Christians and Muslims worship the same God.
    The effort, informally dubbed King’s Way, caps years of outreach between Warren and Muslims. Warren has broken Ramadan fasts at a Mission Viejo mosque, met Muslim leaders abroad and addressed 8,000 Muslims at a national convention in Washington D.C.
    Saddleback worshippers have invited Muslims to Christmas dinner and played interfaith soccer at a picnic in Irvine attended by more than 300 people.
    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/muslims-341669-warren-saddleback.html

    This is even more amazing, knowing that their prayer led by a Muslim at the Vatican, contained verses from the Koran that condemned the unbeliever with death, and what was supposed to be a meeting of peace and reconciliation:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNnFQgGY25s
    “On June 8, 2014 — Pentecost Sunday — the Vatican hosted an “interfaith event” that included prayers by Christian priests, a Jewish rabbi, and a Muslim imam. The occasion waswell-publicized in advance by the Holy See as a “pause in politics” that would promote peace between the Israel and the Palestinians.
    During his visit to Israel and the Palestinian Authority the previous month, Pope Francis had invited Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to attend the event. Both leaders accepted the invitation, and sat with the Pope while prayers were said and chanted in the Vatican garden.
    The imam, however, went beyond the script that had been handed to the Vatican in advance. He included in his chanted prayer verses 284-286 of Sura 2 in the Koran, the last part of which calls for Allah to grant the Muslims victory over the infidels. His words were broadcast live to a television audience, but they were in Arabic, so most non-Muslim viewers had no idea what he had said.”
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/ned-may/the-vatican-falls-for-the-interfaith-scam/?utm_source=FrontPage+Magazine&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4dbe9dac3f-Mailchimp_FrontPageMag&utm_term=0_57e32c1dad-4dbe9dac3f-156515509

    Sura 2: Unto Allah (belongeth) whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth; and whether ye make known what is in your minds or hide it, Allah will bring you to account for it. He will forgive whom He will and He will punish whom He will. Allah is Able to do all things. (284) The messenger believeth in that which hath been revealed unto him from his Lord and (so do) believers. Each one believeth in Allah and His angels and His scriptures and His messengers - We make no distinction between any of His messengers - and they say: We hear, and we obey. (Grant us) Thy forgiveness, our Lord. Unto Thee is the journeying. (285) Allah tasketh not a soul beyond its scope. For it (is only) that which it hath earned, and against it (only) that which it hath deserved. Our Lord! Condemn us not if we forget, or miss the mark! Our Lord! Lay not on us such a burden as thou didst lay on those before us! Our Lord! Impose not on us that which we have not the strength to bear! Pardon us, absolve us and have mercy on us, Thou, our Protector, and give us victory over the disbelieving folk. (286)

  • Pope says Koran is a book of peace and Islam is a peaceful religion

    03/14/2015 2:38:41 AM PDT · 113 of 163
    RaceBannon to amorphous; fidelis

    He is agreeing with them

    When he is quoting them, he is NOT contradicting them, he is quoting them because that is his answer, too

    For the first time in history, Islamic prayers and readings from the Quran will be heard at the Vatican on Sunday, in a move by Pope Francis to usher in peace between Israelis and Palestinians.
    Francis issued the invitation to Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas during his visit last week to Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian Authority.
    http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2014/06/06/Islamic-prayers-to-be-held-at-the-Vatican.html

    Rick Warren builds bridge to Muslims
    Through years of outreach, Saddleback Church pastor Rick Warren is part of an effort named King’s Way that’s attempting to bring evangelical Christians and Muslims together. By JIM HINCH / FOR THE REGISTER
    Published: Feb. 23, 2012 Updated: Aug. 21, 2013 1:17 p.m.
    The Rev. Rick Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest and one of America’s most influential Christian leaders, has embarked on an effort to heal divisions between evangelical Christians and Muslims by partnering with Southern California mosques and proposing a set of theological principles that includes acknowledging that Christians and Muslims worship the same God.
    The effort, informally dubbed King’s Way, caps years of outreach between Warren and Muslims. Warren has broken Ramadan fasts at a Mission Viejo mosque, met Muslim leaders abroad and addressed 8,000 Muslims at a national convention in Washington D.C.
    Saddleback worshippers have invited Muslims to Christmas dinner and played interfaith soccer at a picnic in Irvine attended by more than 300 people.
    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/muslims-341669-warren-saddleback.html

    This is even more amazing, knowing that their prayer led by a Muslim at the Vatican, contained verses from the Koran that condemned the unbeliever with death, and what was supposed to be a meeting of peace and reconciliation:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNnFQgGY25s
    “On June 8, 2014 — Pentecost Sunday — the Vatican hosted an “interfaith event” that included prayers by Christian priests, a Jewish rabbi, and a Muslim imam. The occasion waswell-publicized in advance by the Holy See as a “pause in politics” that would promote peace between the Israel and the Palestinians.
    During his visit to Israel and the Palestinian Authority the previous month, Pope Francis had invited Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to attend the event. Both leaders accepted the invitation, and sat with the Pope while prayers were said and chanted in the Vatican garden.
    The imam, however, went beyond the script that had been handed to the Vatican in advance. He included in his chanted prayer verses 284-286 of Sura 2 in the Koran, the last part of which calls for Allah to grant the Muslims victory over the infidels. His words were broadcast live to a television audience, but they were in Arabic, so most non-Muslim viewers had no idea what he had said.”
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/ned-may/the-vatican-falls-for-the-interfaith-scam/?utm_source=FrontPage+Magazine&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4dbe9dac3f-Mailchimp_FrontPageMag&utm_term=0_57e32c1dad-4dbe9dac3f-156515509

    Sura 2: Unto Allah (belongeth) whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth; and whether ye make known what is in your minds or hide it, Allah will bring you to account for it. He will forgive whom He will and He will punish whom He will. Allah is Able to do all things. (284) The messenger believeth in that which hath been revealed unto him from his Lord and (so do) believers. Each one believeth in Allah and His angels and His scriptures and His messengers - We make no distinction between any of His messengers - and they say: We hear, and we obey. (Grant us) Thy forgiveness, our Lord. Unto Thee is the journeying. (285) Allah tasketh not a soul beyond its scope. For it (is only) that which it hath earned, and against it (only) that which it hath deserved. Our Lord! Condemn us not if we forget, or miss the mark! Our Lord! Lay not on us such a burden as thou didst lay on those before us! Our Lord! Impose not on us that which we have not the strength to bear! Pardon us, absolve us and have mercy on us, Thou, our Protector, and give us victory over the disbelieving folk. (286)