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  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/19/2013 9:13:37 PM PDT · 89 of 90
    ROTB to Admin Moderator

    I erased my web site from my signature.

    Have a great night.

    - ROTB

  • Calling All Christians: Luke 22:36 is NOT license to fight the government. (VANITY)

    03/19/2013 6:49:33 PM PDT · 47 of 63
    ROTB to River Hawk

    >ROTB, why won’t you defend yourself and explain yourself?

    Tomorrow.

    Today, everyone gets to make their cases in response to my posting, and tomorrow I’ll respond.

    In the meantime, I have some other work to do.

  • Calling All Christians: The LORD desires prayer for Obama/Government if He is to give him wisdom.

    03/19/2013 5:02:32 PM PDT · 106 of 111
    ROTB to beckysueb; nomobs; donna; throwback; campaignPete R-CT; Marathoner; hopespringseternal; ...

    Hello Christian Freepers -

    I am pinging you back to this thread Christian prayer for President Obama, because you expressed interest in doing so.

    I’m asking/begging Christians to hold prayer meetings in their homes as many times per week that they can handle, so a holy restoration of Christian living will come per 2 Chronicles 7:14 which says:

    #1 WE humble ourselves, pray, seek God’s face, turn from sin
    #2 GOD heals the USA

    We’ve been trying to do #2 with politics, and we’ve been skipping #1.

    Let’s do #1, so we GET #2 from the LORD. The LORD did it for Ninevah at Jonah’s preaching, and turned his wrath from Ahab, how much more for us?

    Evil doesn’t have a chance. Let’s seek the LORD.

    More is at: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2997910/posts

    ==
    Best Regards,
    Freeper ROTB
    http://holyrestoration.weebly.com
    **Please** let me know if I can add you to the “Holy Restoration” ping list.
    But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. - James 1:22

  • Calling All Christians: Luke 22:36 is NOT license to fight the government. (VANITY)

    03/19/2013 4:01:10 PM PDT · 5 of 63
    ROTB to ROTB

    Should anyone wish to read more about the Holy Restoration of Christian Living that we need here in the USA, please refer to the following thread:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2997910/posts

  • Calling All Christians: Luke 22:36 is NOT license to fight the government. (VANITY)

    03/19/2013 3:58:47 PM PDT · 4 of 63
    ROTB to ROTB; DuncanWaring

    Here’s the new thread.

  • Calling All Christians: Luke 22:36 is NOT license to fight the government. (VANITY)

    03/19/2013 3:57:06 PM PDT · 3 of 63
    ROTB to hope; hiredhand; bayliving; Maudeen; CityCenter; Greetings_Puny_Humans; yldstrk; HOYA97

    Ping!

    1) http://holyrestoration.weebly.com/index.html now has the Microsoft Word original of what I posted, so you can add/modify it at will, and post elsewhere.
    2) So does http://holyrestoration.weebly.com/faq.html.

  • Calling All Christians: Luke 22:36 is NOT license to fight the government. (VANITY)

    03/19/2013 3:55:47 PM PDT · 1 of 63
    ROTB
    Luke 22:36 is NOT license to take up arms against the government.
  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/19/2013 1:58:24 PM PDT · 88 of 90
    ROTB to Greysard

    I apologize if I repeat myself, since there are many I am conversing with on FR.

    I SAID: Because you only presented options to me that would either force me to be a hypocrite, or a coward.

    IN RESPONSE YOU SAID: True. I chose those options because they are realistic. When you walk in a dark street and see a woman raped by two armed thugs, you’d better be properly equipped and trained to resist the evil. You will do good if you bring those thugs to a church ahead of time and convince them that their way is not the right one. However if you meet them too late then your avenues are somewhat limited.

    I don’t convict them of sin. The Holy Spirit does as we pray. Proverbs 21:1 says God turns the hearts of kings, so he can turn the hearts of thugs. John 16:8 says that the Holy Spirit convicts of sin righteousness & judegment. The question is, can a “neighborhood watch” with a 9mm pistol be in all places? Prayer can.

    II CHRONICLES 7:14
    14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

    Our job = humility, prayer, seeking God’s face, turning from evil
    God’s job = hearing, forgiving us, HEALING OUR LAND

    We cannot heal the USA by carrying guns and killing thugs while continuing to idolize money, porn, hatred of politicians or anyone, idolizing violent movies or team sports, etc. It has not worked, and it will not work.

    YOU SAID: To make things even more obvious: what would you do if, in a rural village, you see a mountain lion attacking a child? (One, of very formidable size, was caught a year ago in a town that I visit.) Or, perhaps, you walk in a city and see a rabid pitbull attacking a pregnant woman? (That also happened, saw it in the news somewhere.) You cannot convince an animal - especially a deathly sick animal - to change its ways.

    Animals are not people, so killing them with a weapon to defend a human life has no eternal consequences. I like a good burger now and then too.

    YOU SAID: You can also note that there are not too many shades of gray between an animal and a thug. Intelligence and social manners are not binary. A creature can have none of them, or all of them, or anywhere in between. Having human genes is a necessary but not sufficient condition for being a human.

    True, but thugs are still people, and murdering one against Matthew 26:52 has severe consequences. It’s God that allows us time and presence of mind to repent.

    I SAID: Tell me then, what a true Christian would do in light of this refutation of Luke 22:36-38 as license for a Christian to use force? Remember, Scripture has no contradictions.

    IN RESPONSE YOU SAID: [The Scripture sometimes gives different answers to slightly different questions not because it is contradictory but because the situations are not the same. Sometimes we see the difference in the context, in other cases we do not.]

    “Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword,”

    YOU SAID: Not a contradiction. Sometimes doing the right thing hurts you or kills you. For example, imagine that an armed intruder breaks into your home. To protect your family you grab your trusty revolver. The burglar shoots you. You shoot the burglar. You both die. Your death is the punishment for taking your sword. You knew the deal. You still went ahead. Why? Because you saved others.

    At the cost of your soul. Whereas, when you re-read Matthew 1-2, you’ll realize 5 dreams are given to believers in the LORD to warn and inform. I am blessed with dreams that warn of coming car accidents, and family deaths. I come against those dreams in binding prayer, and they don’t happen. The need for a gun is born out of a lack of hearing from God.

    Do you really think Joe GunOwner could read Matthew 26:52, and sell his gun in honor of obeying Jesus, and then God rewarding Joe GunOwner with a thug that kills him? Do you believe God to be so unmerciful?

    Did you read the parsing I did of Luke 22:36-38? Jesus quoted scripture that was unfolding before them where the disciples were counted as transgressors by picking up swords. Please do a full parsing of Luke 22:36-38 to show me how I mis-parsed it.

    YOU SAID: In this light it is perfectly clear why one shall not wantonly brandish the sword. It is not consequence-free. This action is reserved only for the most dire circumstances, when you know the price but still are willing to pay it. The case of George Zimmerman is a very good illustration of this principle.

    What you call action might better be categorized as sin. Where does the Bible say that sin “is reserved only for the most dire of circumstances, when you know the price but still are willing to pay it”? What do you think the price is that George Zimmerman paid that day when he killed Trayvon in self-defense?

    “Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors

    YOU SAID: This requires a Christian to be law-abiding. This is not under debate. The problem arises when the laws themselves, or their executors, are wrong. The Bible does not specify how human laws are put in place, and how those governors are assigned. This means it’s under the purview of our social order. We are free to elect our kings and our governors, and we are free to make our own laws. We are also free to change them whenever the society finds it necessary. God only specifies the framework within which we are allowed to manage our affairs. For example, it is prohibited to murder public officials just because you don’t like their policies. (Hardly anyone proposes that.)

    Does scripture say in 1 Peter 2:13 to submit to “every ordinance of man” or “every ordinanace of man that you think is good, and the executors are good”. The scripture is plain, but you spent the above paragraph coming up with reasons why not to obey, or why this or why that. All without scripture.

    1 Samuel 15:23 says “rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft”

    YOU SAID: It is essential to read the entire chapter. It is about Saul rebelling against God: Then the word of the LORD came to Samuel: “I regret that I have made Saul king, because he has turned away from me and has not carried out my instructions.” Samuel was angry, and he cried out to the LORD all that night.

    Re-read Romans 13:4 which talks about government authorities saying: “For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him that doeth evil.” Government is a minister of God. Therefore, if rebellion against God is sin per 1 Samuel 15:23, why is rebellion against a “minister of God” per Romans 13:4 NOT sin?

    YOU SAID: As matter of fact, it was Samuel who lawfully rebelled against Saul, the current king - and his rebellion was not simply legal, it was divinely inspired, and it had full support of God. God needed someone to tell Saul that he erred. Your quote, in fact, supports the position that errant rulers shall be made to answer for their mistakes. How exactly that is to be done? It varies. In Samuel’s case, a talk was sufficient: Saul replied, “I have sinned. But please honor me before the elders of my people and before Israel; come back with me, so that I may worship the LORD your God.”

    Samuel did not rebel. Samuel told Saul that Saul rebelled, and Saul immediately agreed. Samuel did not point a sword and Saul and command Saul to change Saul’s mind. Equating Samuel using words to correct Saul, with US Citizens using guns to “correct” soldiers and police who come for them is not where you were going, right?

    I SAID: Who said you have to go through all that? Job was hardly a hermit, but God called him perfect.

    YOU SAID IN RESPONSE : Job’s shoes are pretty large. When someone among us is born to fill them, then perhaps we can revisit this issue. Saints have their own ways; but I am not one, and most people on this Earth aren’t saints either.

    There are many commands in the Old and New Testament for believers in the LORD to be perfect. It is a requirement, and God doesn’t command us to do things that are impossible. Here’s a list of verses you should look at: http://holyrestoration.weebly.com/uploads/4/9/4/2/4942392/15_christian_perfection.pdf

    YOU SAID: I have to go back to work now, no matter that it’s almost midnight on the West Coast. I know that nobody is going to do my job for me. (The criterion here is simple: if I can do it then it’s up to me to do it.) Thank you for the discussion, and best wishes!

    I have other things to do as well. Thanks for your time.

    YOU SAID: P.S. I do not subscribe to ping lists; instead I just browse the forum occasionally, read, and reply when it is appropriate. I’m actually pretty busy, I have more work to do than I can handle. This work is something that people actually need to do good things with, so I cannot be away from my design environment for long.

    S’ok. I don’t take it personally. There’s a lot of rejection in life, and especially in evangelism. Maybe I’ll see you down the road on FR.

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/19/2013 12:58:18 PM PDT · 87 of 90
    ROTB to Rytwyng

    The God of the Bible is absolutely real. I offer http://xwalk.ca/y3nf.html to Muslims and Mormons and JWs who try to tell me otherwise.

    God always offers mercy to those who humble themselves. Remember Nineveh, Ahab, and others.

    We DESERVE nuking and EMPs, and being slaves to China/Russia. Russia told the homosexuals to get back into the closet recently, and they are now the #1 oil exporting nation, etc etc etc.

    But, if we turn, God will delay judgement.

    We can agree to disagree on this, but I hope you change your mind, and hold prayer meetings in your home once a week, and nightly if you can handle it.

    Thanks for following up. Maybe another thread did get pulled, since I’ve been reposting it over and over, and some complained.

    So I’ll need some original content to post, and I suspect I got some during morning prayer.

    ==
    Best Regards,
    Freeper ROTB
    http://holyrestoration.weebly.com
    **Please** let me know if I can add you to the “Holy Restoration” ping list.
    But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. - James 1:22

  • No Ruling Yet, But Justices Skeptical of Arizona Voter Law [Kennedy Likely To Join Liberals]

    03/18/2013 10:09:24 PM PDT · 12 of 37
    ROTB to GeronL; stansblugrassgrl; FlingWingFlyer; no-to-illegals; Lurking Libertarian; bigbob; DEADROCK; ...

    If citizens here in the USA think they are 2nd class citizens in their own country as lawlessness increases, it could only make people angry.

    Let’s de-fuse the whole situation by seeking the LORD in prayer.

    Those of us who are Christians need to pray for the Supreme Court Justices to have Godly wisdom regarding who gets to vote in the USA.

    I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, [and] giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and [for] all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. For this [is] good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
    1 Timothy 2:1-4

    The king’s heart [is] in the hand of the LORD, [as] the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will.
    PROVERBS 21:1

    And as Freeper oldbill pointed out, fraud and lying are growing more common all the time. We need to pray for ...

    1) ourselves
    2) our neighbors
    3) our nation

    ... so that God will visit us in a holy restoration of Christian living, like we’ve had before in this nation. Please see paragraph 1 of http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2997910/posts for the details.

    Lurking Libertarian : good point! Though the Supreme Court “interprets” the laws, ** Congress ** makes laws.

    ==
    Best Regards,
    Freeper ROTB
    http://holyrestoration.weebly.com
    **Please** let me know if I can add you to the “Holy Restoration” ping list.
    But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. - James 1:22

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/18/2013 9:42:33 PM PDT · 84 of 90
    ROTB to Greysard

    YOU SAID: I asked: What would a true Christian, per your definition, do? You answered by choosing options that are not present in my scenario.

    True. Because you only presented options to me that would either force me to be a hypocrite, or a coward.

    Interceding prayer is neither. It’s the greatest outlet of power on earth. It stops such situations at the root.

    Our flesh, coupled with demonic activity is the source of much evil in this world.

    YOU SAID: In other words, your actor would freeze; perhaps he would cry, or maybe he’d curl up under a bush until the police shows up to collect the bodies and discovers that this one is alive and well, aside from soiled clothes. This is not what a true Christian would do ... A true Christian would sell his cloak and buy a sword ...

    Tell me then, what a true Christian would do in light of this refutation of Luke 22:36-38 as license for a Christian to use force? Remember, Scripture has no contradictions.

    http://holyrestoration.weebly.com/faq.html#Q1

    YOU SAID: My example is not even contrived, unfortunately. That very scenario played out in Norway and at Sandy Hook just recently. This is a very real scenario.

    A true Christian, who is consecrated to the LORD and used of God for intercession would be protected from being in the area. Furthermore he would be 50 miles from it, binding the forces of Satan so it would not happen. In a Christian nation where people put more importance on prayer and holiness, such things would not happen.

    They happen now, here in the USA because our churches are entertainment centered, not holiness centered.

    YOU SAID: If you have to draw that sword, will that hurt your soul? Yes, it will. But letting innocents be killed will hurt it even more.

    Violating Matthew 26:52 will hurt in light of Luke 6:46 ...

    MATTHEW 26:52
    52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

    LUKE 6:46
    46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

    YOU SAID: No man is ideal; if you strive to be perfect,

    God gave many commands in the Old and New Testaments to be perfect. If he commanded it, it can be done. Please see http://holyrestoration.weebly.com/uploads/4/9/4/2/4942392/15_christian_perfection.pdf for some verses.

    YOU SAID: lock yourself up in a monastery, or become a hermit. You will score fewer black marks there; but at the same time you will score fewer white marks as well - life in a remote cave doesn’t give you too many opportunities to help others. As an instrument of God, you would be kept sharp and well polished ... and never put to use. Why would God want to have such an instrument?

    Who said you have to go through all that? Job was hardly a hermit, but God called him perfect.

    JOB 1:8
    8 And the LORD said unto Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job, that [there is] none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and eschews evil?”

    What use is such a man today? Miracle healings like Jesus did. See http://holyrestoration.weebly.com/uploads/4/9/4/2/4942392/16_aaallenthepricefullversion.pdf for the details in Chapters 3 and 4.

    YOU SAID: This is not to disparage your suggestion to minister to criminals and to pray for them. This is a good preventive measure. However this measure is insufficient when you are facing a drug-crazed psycho. He is not sentient anymore - drugs have burned all the remnants of his mind out of his head. People on bath salts engage in cannibalism, they eat their victims alive. You cannot reason with them, and you are not Jesus to help them with a handy herd of swine. You must act according to your abilities.

    Admittedly, I am not at this level, but I’m working to get there. Someone has to do it. Maybe me, maybe one of my friends, maybe someone on FR, maybe ... YOU.

    YOU SAID: That is appreciated. You do not see yourself as a Soldier. You know better than anyone what you can and cannot do, and that is just fine.

    God calls me a soldier who performs warfare in prayer.

    You therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ. No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of [this] life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.
    II TIMOTHY 2:3-4

    II CORINTHIANS 10:4
    4 (For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)

    I TIMOTHY 1:18
    18 ¶ This charge I commit unto thee, son Timothy, according to the prophecies which went before on thee, that thou by them mightest war a good warfare;

    YOU SAID: However someone else has to be a soldier, a guard, a teacher, a hunter, a sailor. It would be incorrect to preach to them that their occupations are wrong and they have to change. A soldier cannot give up his arms because when the neighboring King decides to attack your King you will be all dead - it is the soldier’s duty to protect you.

    Even John the Baptist never told the soldiers who asked him to quit. He just told them to live clean and holy.

    LUKE 3:14
    14 And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse [any] falsely; and be content with your wages.

    Thank you again for your time, and your patient thoughtful reply. I hope on a scale of 1 to 100, I have budged you at least 1-2 points toward my point of view.

    ==
    Best Regards,
    Freeper ROTB
    http://holyrestoration.weebly.com
    **Please** let me know if I can add you to the “Holy Restoration” ping list.
    But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. - James 1:22

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/18/2013 9:09:38 PM PDT · 83 of 90
    ROTB to cva66snipe

    Hello cva66snipe -

    Thank you for your thoughtful reply.

    YOU SAID: Why would China and Russia want to go through the huge expense and massive naval build up it would take for a land invasion on U.S. soil? Still yet in doing so using a nuke makes no sense whatsoever. Nuking means they don’t use the land either. It takes ships lots and lots of ships and planes to move troops.

    1) Nuking us from their subs means eliminating our nuclear stockpiles and our Army/Navy/Air Force bases, precluding us from retaliating with our own nukes, or defending ourselves. From what I gather, these silos are in the heartland of the USA, not in the population centers. MCAS Miramar is in San Diego, there are other Naval bases in Seattle, etc ...

    2) According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_fallout#Short_term “Fallout radiation decays exponentially relatively quickly with time. Most areas become fairly safe for travel and decontamination after three to five weeks.”

    So, once we were nuked and EMPd into being defenseless, and then surrendering, they could take their sweet time in bringing troops here to occupy, rape, pillage, kill, etc.

    3) Russia is currently the #1 oil exporting nation. They have cash, as does China. Moving troops here to occupy and rape the land of all it’s oil and gold would be an investment once we were subdued.

    >The war of wars is to take place in Israel and ships will
    >not be needed to move armies there by her enemies.

    What nation is Babylon of Revelation 18? I realize it says “city” or “polis” in the Greek, but could it not be the USA itself? Here’s one source I just dug up: http://www.escapeallthesethings.com/america-mystery-babylon-great.htm

    Here’s one I’ve known about for while: http://www.handofhelp.com/vision_2.php

    YOU SAID: Thus we need to protest and get policies that weaken us as a nation changed both morally and fisical including our domestic production capabilities to meet all our own needs not relying on China.

    One of the many reasons I am calling for a Holy Restoration of Christian living, is because of this verse:

    PROVERBS 14:34
    34 ¶ Righteousness exalts a nation: but sin [is] a reproach to any people.

    We ain’t righteous, as I already pointed out at the top of this thread in my original post. So we’re dragged down with debt, poverty, and soft tyranny.

    I don’t blame President Obama and the Democrats. They are so obviously unsaved heathen who think God is make believe.

    They think God is make believe, because we Christians are not Holy, nor do we collectively trust God to do his part of 2 Chronicles 7:14 if we do ours:

    II CHRONICLES 7:14
    14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

    YOU SAID: The foreign nations do not attack us because We The People are armed thus making us a major army far beyond our official government funded military.

    To occupy a nation, one needs to only control parts of it, not every square mile. China has the personnel to pick the USA clean like ants on a dead squirrel.

    YOU SAID: Several other points. If out forefather who were subjects to the crown had not taken a very huge leap of faith and formed this nation to start with but rather let the king continue to run roughshod this nation would not have been born. Some were righteous or believers and some were not.

    We’d be like Canada, worst case scenario. The UK was great because it WAS Christian. We were great because we were also a Christian nation. Here’s the verse:

    What joy for the nation whose God is the LORD, whose people he has chosen as his inheritance.
    http://bible.cc/psalms/33-12.htm

    Liberty of a nation is the product of Godliness, not guns and rebellion. Of all the quotes on this page http://www.internationalwallofprayer.org/Q-01-FAMOUS-QUOTES.html the following is my favorite.

    “Tell your prince that this Book (the BIBLE) is the secret of England’s greatness”
    Queen victoria

    YOU SAID: Unrighteous leaders will demand you do unrighteous things.

    True, but we are to pray for them, because God can change their hearts, or save them.

    I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, [and] giving of thanks, be made for all men;For kings, and [for] all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.For this [is] good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
    1 Timothy 2:1-4

    Thanks for your time.

    ==
    Best Regards,
    Freeper ROTB
    http://holyrestoration.weebly.com
    **Please** let me know if I can add you to the “Holy Restoration” ping list.
    But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. - James 1:22

  • Church Won’t Do Weddings For Straight Couples Until Same-Sex Marriage Is Legal

    03/18/2013 7:56:10 PM PDT · 50 of 73
    ROTB to massmike

    We need to pray for them, that’s for sure.

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/18/2013 5:45:35 PM PDT · 79 of 90
    ROTB to backwoods-engineer

    YOU SAID: Buddy, you are confused about what America is. The government here, at all levels, is CONSTRAINED BY THE CONSTITUTION. The Constitution says we have the right to keep and bear arms, and that the government shall not infringe it. If it does, it is THE GOVERNMENT THAT IS IN THE WRONG, not me.

    When the government violates the Constitution and sends police/soldiers door to door to collect guns AND those citizens the government visits assert their 2nd amendment rights and shoot the soldiers/police in violation of Matthew 26:52 and Romans 13:4 and Titus 3:1 and 1 Peter 2:13 it does not matter who is in the wrong, since both of the aforementioned kick off CW2, which INVITES INVASION by China / Russia / friends.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if China / Russia / friends don’t have “patriots” shilling here on FR and other Christian / Conservative forums for CW2.

    If CW2 starts and rises to a fever pitch, it makes parking some submarines off the coast, nuking and EMPing us, and then invading with troops so very much easier.

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/18/2013 5:45:24 PM PDT · 78 of 90
    ROTB to backwoods-engineer

    >Even the Lord Jesus did not require His disciples to
    >disarm. That only leads to death.

    That’s wrong. Jesus means no such thing by Luke 22:36-38.

    http://holyrestoration.weebly.com/faq.html#Q1

    >God’s judgement is going to be on this country. We cannot
    >stop it.

    You and I disagree. Re-read the book of Jonah. A holy restoration of Christian living through humility before God, repentance, turning from sin, and prayer for our fellow countrymen and Christians will stop the coming destruction.

    Hope you’ll help.

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/18/2013 5:44:07 PM PDT · 77 of 90
    ROTB to US Navy Vet

    Yeah, it’s pretty bad here in CA.

    But, what am I saying that would launch more evil in your state, or mine?

    ==
    Best Regards,
    Freeper ROTB
    http://holyrestoration.weebly.com
    **Please** let me know if I can add you to the “Holy Restoration” ping list.
    But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. - James 1:22

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/18/2013 5:43:57 PM PDT · 76 of 90
    ROTB to Texas Fossil

    Glory to God. May we believe and do.

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  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/18/2013 5:43:52 PM PDT · 75 of 90
    ROTB to Greysard

    YOU SAID: However I wouldn’t go so far as to declare all soldiers sinners.

    I would not either per Romans 13:4 and Luke 3:14.

    YOU SAID: Imagine that a violent killer walks around a playground and kills children one by one. One Christian, with a loaded 1911 in the holster, is present and can act. He orders the criminal to stop. The criminal ignores him. (Why not, the killer is not a Christian just by the nature of his acts.) What would a true Christian, per your definition, do?

    A true Christian would be ...

    1) running a deliverance ministry, so “psychos” are delivered of murderous demons per http://holyrestoration.weebly.com/deliverance.html

    2) praying and fasting and binding the powers of darkness across the nation so such things would not happen

    YOU SAID: However in many cases you are proposing to forgive a criminal for harm that he caused to someone else. You do not have authority to do so.

    Wait, say my daughter is killed by a murderer. Should I not grieve? Would this not be a challenge for me to obey Jesus’ calls to forgive?

    For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
    Matthew 6:14-15

    And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses. But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.
    Mark 11:25-26

    Indeed, I cannot forgive man’s sins so far as their standing with the LORD is concerned. The murderer goes to heaven or hell based on how they respond to Jesus Christ. What IS my responsibility is that I do not hate that offender in my heart, and that I don’t be bitter against them. Hating or holding unforgiveness jeopardizes MY soul.

    YOU SAID: You have pure evil in front of you - and instead of stepping up to the plate and doing your part you ... you ask someone else (God) to do it for you!

    I am stepping up to the plate by working to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and using my God given authority to come against evil in this country, and to pray for sinners to get saved, and for Christians to stop backsliding.

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/18/2013 5:43:47 PM PDT · 74 of 90
    ROTB to ColdSteelTalon

    Jesus gave us freedom from the consequence of sin thats true and I am thankful for it.

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    Make sure you’re not trusting that you have liberty TO sin:

    http://eternalsecurity.us

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/17/2013 11:17:20 PM PDT · 57 of 90
    ROTB to Democrat_media; concerned about politics

    ROTB said “guns are a false God”

    sounds like trying to disarm us

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    Actually, with ...

    1) humility before Jesus
    2) repentance
    3) turning from sin
    4) praying for ourselves and our country

    ... we ARM ourselves against our real enemies who are Satan’s legions.

    No need to fire a shot to get our country back.