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  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/19/2013 9:13:37 PM PDT · 89 of 90
    ROTB to Admin Moderator

    I erased my web site from my signature.

    Have a great night.

    - ROTB

  • Calling All Christians: Luke 22:36 is NOT license to fight the government. (VANITY)

    03/19/2013 6:49:33 PM PDT · 47 of 63
    ROTB to River Hawk

    >ROTB, why won’t you defend yourself and explain yourself?

    Tomorrow.

    Today, everyone gets to make their cases in response to my posting, and tomorrow I’ll respond.

    In the meantime, I have some other work to do.

  • Calling All Christians: The LORD desires prayer for Obama/Government if He is to give him wisdom.

    03/19/2013 5:02:32 PM PDT · 106 of 111
    ROTB to beckysueb; nomobs; donna; throwback; campaignPete R-CT; Marathoner; hopespringseternal; ...

    Hello Christian Freepers -

    I am pinging you back to this thread Christian prayer for President Obama, because you expressed interest in doing so.

    I’m asking/begging Christians to hold prayer meetings in their homes as many times per week that they can handle, so a holy restoration of Christian living will come per 2 Chronicles 7:14 which says:

    #1 WE humble ourselves, pray, seek God’s face, turn from sin
    #2 GOD heals the USA

    We’ve been trying to do #2 with politics, and we’ve been skipping #1.

    Let’s do #1, so we GET #2 from the LORD. The LORD did it for Ninevah at Jonah’s preaching, and turned his wrath from Ahab, how much more for us?

    Evil doesn’t have a chance. Let’s seek the LORD.

    More is at: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2997910/posts

    ==
    Best Regards,
    Freeper ROTB
    http://holyrestoration.weebly.com
    **Please** let me know if I can add you to the “Holy Restoration” ping list.
    But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. - James 1:22

  • Calling All Christians: Luke 22:36 is NOT license to fight the government. (VANITY)

    03/19/2013 4:01:10 PM PDT · 5 of 63
    ROTB to ROTB

    Should anyone wish to read more about the Holy Restoration of Christian Living that we need here in the USA, please refer to the following thread:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2997910/posts

  • Calling All Christians: Luke 22:36 is NOT license to fight the government. (VANITY)

    03/19/2013 3:58:47 PM PDT · 4 of 63
    ROTB to ROTB; DuncanWaring

    Here’s the new thread.

  • Calling All Christians: Luke 22:36 is NOT license to fight the government. (VANITY)

    03/19/2013 3:57:06 PM PDT · 3 of 63
    ROTB to hope; hiredhand; bayliving; Maudeen; CityCenter; Greetings_Puny_Humans; yldstrk; HOYA97

    Ping!

    1) http://holyrestoration.weebly.com/index.html now has the Microsoft Word original of what I posted, so you can add/modify it at will, and post elsewhere.
    2) So does http://holyrestoration.weebly.com/faq.html.

  • Calling All Christians: Luke 22:36 is NOT license to fight the government. (VANITY)

    03/19/2013 3:55:47 PM PDT · 1 of 63
    ROTB
    Luke 22:36 is NOT license to take up arms against the government.
  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/19/2013 1:58:24 PM PDT · 88 of 90
    ROTB to Greysard

    I apologize if I repeat myself, since there are many I am conversing with on FR.

    I SAID: Because you only presented options to me that would either force me to be a hypocrite, or a coward.

    IN RESPONSE YOU SAID: True. I chose those options because they are realistic. When you walk in a dark street and see a woman raped by two armed thugs, you’d better be properly equipped and trained to resist the evil. You will do good if you bring those thugs to a church ahead of time and convince them that their way is not the right one. However if you meet them too late then your avenues are somewhat limited.

    I don’t convict them of sin. The Holy Spirit does as we pray. Proverbs 21:1 says God turns the hearts of kings, so he can turn the hearts of thugs. John 16:8 says that the Holy Spirit convicts of sin righteousness & judegment. The question is, can a “neighborhood watch” with a 9mm pistol be in all places? Prayer can.

    II CHRONICLES 7:14
    14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

    Our job = humility, prayer, seeking God’s face, turning from evil
    God’s job = hearing, forgiving us, HEALING OUR LAND

    We cannot heal the USA by carrying guns and killing thugs while continuing to idolize money, porn, hatred of politicians or anyone, idolizing violent movies or team sports, etc. It has not worked, and it will not work.

    YOU SAID: To make things even more obvious: what would you do if, in a rural village, you see a mountain lion attacking a child? (One, of very formidable size, was caught a year ago in a town that I visit.) Or, perhaps, you walk in a city and see a rabid pitbull attacking a pregnant woman? (That also happened, saw it in the news somewhere.) You cannot convince an animal - especially a deathly sick animal - to change its ways.

    Animals are not people, so killing them with a weapon to defend a human life has no eternal consequences. I like a good burger now and then too.

    YOU SAID: You can also note that there are not too many shades of gray between an animal and a thug. Intelligence and social manners are not binary. A creature can have none of them, or all of them, or anywhere in between. Having human genes is a necessary but not sufficient condition for being a human.

    True, but thugs are still people, and murdering one against Matthew 26:52 has severe consequences. It’s God that allows us time and presence of mind to repent.

    I SAID: Tell me then, what a true Christian would do in light of this refutation of Luke 22:36-38 as license for a Christian to use force? Remember, Scripture has no contradictions.

    IN RESPONSE YOU SAID: [The Scripture sometimes gives different answers to slightly different questions not because it is contradictory but because the situations are not the same. Sometimes we see the difference in the context, in other cases we do not.]

    “Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword,”

    YOU SAID: Not a contradiction. Sometimes doing the right thing hurts you or kills you. For example, imagine that an armed intruder breaks into your home. To protect your family you grab your trusty revolver. The burglar shoots you. You shoot the burglar. You both die. Your death is the punishment for taking your sword. You knew the deal. You still went ahead. Why? Because you saved others.

    At the cost of your soul. Whereas, when you re-read Matthew 1-2, you’ll realize 5 dreams are given to believers in the LORD to warn and inform. I am blessed with dreams that warn of coming car accidents, and family deaths. I come against those dreams in binding prayer, and they don’t happen. The need for a gun is born out of a lack of hearing from God.

    Do you really think Joe GunOwner could read Matthew 26:52, and sell his gun in honor of obeying Jesus, and then God rewarding Joe GunOwner with a thug that kills him? Do you believe God to be so unmerciful?

    Did you read the parsing I did of Luke 22:36-38? Jesus quoted scripture that was unfolding before them where the disciples were counted as transgressors by picking up swords. Please do a full parsing of Luke 22:36-38 to show me how I mis-parsed it.

    YOU SAID: In this light it is perfectly clear why one shall not wantonly brandish the sword. It is not consequence-free. This action is reserved only for the most dire circumstances, when you know the price but still are willing to pay it. The case of George Zimmerman is a very good illustration of this principle.

    What you call action might better be categorized as sin. Where does the Bible say that sin “is reserved only for the most dire of circumstances, when you know the price but still are willing to pay it”? What do you think the price is that George Zimmerman paid that day when he killed Trayvon in self-defense?

    “Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors

    YOU SAID: This requires a Christian to be law-abiding. This is not under debate. The problem arises when the laws themselves, or their executors, are wrong. The Bible does not specify how human laws are put in place, and how those governors are assigned. This means it’s under the purview of our social order. We are free to elect our kings and our governors, and we are free to make our own laws. We are also free to change them whenever the society finds it necessary. God only specifies the framework within which we are allowed to manage our affairs. For example, it is prohibited to murder public officials just because you don’t like their policies. (Hardly anyone proposes that.)

    Does scripture say in 1 Peter 2:13 to submit to “every ordinance of man” or “every ordinanace of man that you think is good, and the executors are good”. The scripture is plain, but you spent the above paragraph coming up with reasons why not to obey, or why this or why that. All without scripture.

    1 Samuel 15:23 says “rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft”

    YOU SAID: It is essential to read the entire chapter. It is about Saul rebelling against God: Then the word of the LORD came to Samuel: “I regret that I have made Saul king, because he has turned away from me and has not carried out my instructions.” Samuel was angry, and he cried out to the LORD all that night.

    Re-read Romans 13:4 which talks about government authorities saying: “For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him that doeth evil.” Government is a minister of God. Therefore, if rebellion against God is sin per 1 Samuel 15:23, why is rebellion against a “minister of God” per Romans 13:4 NOT sin?

    YOU SAID: As matter of fact, it was Samuel who lawfully rebelled against Saul, the current king - and his rebellion was not simply legal, it was divinely inspired, and it had full support of God. God needed someone to tell Saul that he erred. Your quote, in fact, supports the position that errant rulers shall be made to answer for their mistakes. How exactly that is to be done? It varies. In Samuel’s case, a talk was sufficient: Saul replied, “I have sinned. But please honor me before the elders of my people and before Israel; come back with me, so that I may worship the LORD your God.”

    Samuel did not rebel. Samuel told Saul that Saul rebelled, and Saul immediately agreed. Samuel did not point a sword and Saul and command Saul to change Saul’s mind. Equating Samuel using words to correct Saul, with US Citizens using guns to “correct” soldiers and police who come for them is not where you were going, right?

    I SAID: Who said you have to go through all that? Job was hardly a hermit, but God called him perfect.

    YOU SAID IN RESPONSE : Job’s shoes are pretty large. When someone among us is born to fill them, then perhaps we can revisit this issue. Saints have their own ways; but I am not one, and most people on this Earth aren’t saints either.

    There are many commands in the Old and New Testament for believers in the LORD to be perfect. It is a requirement, and God doesn’t command us to do things that are impossible. Here’s a list of verses you should look at: http://holyrestoration.weebly.com/uploads/4/9/4/2/4942392/15_christian_perfection.pdf

    YOU SAID: I have to go back to work now, no matter that it’s almost midnight on the West Coast. I know that nobody is going to do my job for me. (The criterion here is simple: if I can do it then it’s up to me to do it.) Thank you for the discussion, and best wishes!

    I have other things to do as well. Thanks for your time.

    YOU SAID: P.S. I do not subscribe to ping lists; instead I just browse the forum occasionally, read, and reply when it is appropriate. I’m actually pretty busy, I have more work to do than I can handle. This work is something that people actually need to do good things with, so I cannot be away from my design environment for long.

    S’ok. I don’t take it personally. There’s a lot of rejection in life, and especially in evangelism. Maybe I’ll see you down the road on FR.

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/19/2013 12:58:18 PM PDT · 87 of 90
    ROTB to Rytwyng

    The God of the Bible is absolutely real. I offer http://xwalk.ca/y3nf.html to Muslims and Mormons and JWs who try to tell me otherwise.

    God always offers mercy to those who humble themselves. Remember Nineveh, Ahab, and others.

    We DESERVE nuking and EMPs, and being slaves to China/Russia. Russia told the homosexuals to get back into the closet recently, and they are now the #1 oil exporting nation, etc etc etc.

    But, if we turn, God will delay judgement.

    We can agree to disagree on this, but I hope you change your mind, and hold prayer meetings in your home once a week, and nightly if you can handle it.

    Thanks for following up. Maybe another thread did get pulled, since I’ve been reposting it over and over, and some complained.

    So I’ll need some original content to post, and I suspect I got some during morning prayer.

    ==
    Best Regards,
    Freeper ROTB
    http://holyrestoration.weebly.com
    **Please** let me know if I can add you to the “Holy Restoration” ping list.
    But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. - James 1:22

  • No Ruling Yet, But Justices Skeptical of Arizona Voter Law [Kennedy Likely To Join Liberals]

    03/18/2013 10:09:24 PM PDT · 12 of 37
    ROTB to GeronL; stansblugrassgrl; FlingWingFlyer; no-to-illegals; Lurking Libertarian; bigbob; DEADROCK; ...

    If citizens here in the USA think they are 2nd class citizens in their own country as lawlessness increases, it could only make people angry.

    Let’s de-fuse the whole situation by seeking the LORD in prayer.

    Those of us who are Christians need to pray for the Supreme Court Justices to have Godly wisdom regarding who gets to vote in the USA.

    I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, [and] giving of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and [for] all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. For this [is] good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
    1 Timothy 2:1-4

    The king’s heart [is] in the hand of the LORD, [as] the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will.
    PROVERBS 21:1

    And as Freeper oldbill pointed out, fraud and lying are growing more common all the time. We need to pray for ...

    1) ourselves
    2) our neighbors
    3) our nation

    ... so that God will visit us in a holy restoration of Christian living, like we’ve had before in this nation. Please see paragraph 1 of http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2997910/posts for the details.

    Lurking Libertarian : good point! Though the Supreme Court “interprets” the laws, ** Congress ** makes laws.

    ==
    Best Regards,
    Freeper ROTB
    http://holyrestoration.weebly.com
    **Please** let me know if I can add you to the “Holy Restoration” ping list.
    But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. - James 1:22

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/18/2013 9:42:33 PM PDT · 84 of 90
    ROTB to Greysard

    YOU SAID: I asked: What would a true Christian, per your definition, do? You answered by choosing options that are not present in my scenario.

    True. Because you only presented options to me that would either force me to be a hypocrite, or a coward.

    Interceding prayer is neither. It’s the greatest outlet of power on earth. It stops such situations at the root.

    Our flesh, coupled with demonic activity is the source of much evil in this world.

    YOU SAID: In other words, your actor would freeze; perhaps he would cry, or maybe he’d curl up under a bush until the police shows up to collect the bodies and discovers that this one is alive and well, aside from soiled clothes. This is not what a true Christian would do ... A true Christian would sell his cloak and buy a sword ...

    Tell me then, what a true Christian would do in light of this refutation of Luke 22:36-38 as license for a Christian to use force? Remember, Scripture has no contradictions.

    http://holyrestoration.weebly.com/faq.html#Q1

    YOU SAID: My example is not even contrived, unfortunately. That very scenario played out in Norway and at Sandy Hook just recently. This is a very real scenario.

    A true Christian, who is consecrated to the LORD and used of God for intercession would be protected from being in the area. Furthermore he would be 50 miles from it, binding the forces of Satan so it would not happen. In a Christian nation where people put more importance on prayer and holiness, such things would not happen.

    They happen now, here in the USA because our churches are entertainment centered, not holiness centered.

    YOU SAID: If you have to draw that sword, will that hurt your soul? Yes, it will. But letting innocents be killed will hurt it even more.

    Violating Matthew 26:52 will hurt in light of Luke 6:46 ...

    MATTHEW 26:52
    52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

    LUKE 6:46
    46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

    YOU SAID: No man is ideal; if you strive to be perfect,

    God gave many commands in the Old and New Testaments to be perfect. If he commanded it, it can be done. Please see http://holyrestoration.weebly.com/uploads/4/9/4/2/4942392/15_christian_perfection.pdf for some verses.

    YOU SAID: lock yourself up in a monastery, or become a hermit. You will score fewer black marks there; but at the same time you will score fewer white marks as well - life in a remote cave doesn’t give you too many opportunities to help others. As an instrument of God, you would be kept sharp and well polished ... and never put to use. Why would God want to have such an instrument?

    Who said you have to go through all that? Job was hardly a hermit, but God called him perfect.

    JOB 1:8
    8 And the LORD said unto Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job, that [there is] none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and eschews evil?”

    What use is such a man today? Miracle healings like Jesus did. See http://holyrestoration.weebly.com/uploads/4/9/4/2/4942392/16_aaallenthepricefullversion.pdf for the details in Chapters 3 and 4.

    YOU SAID: This is not to disparage your suggestion to minister to criminals and to pray for them. This is a good preventive measure. However this measure is insufficient when you are facing a drug-crazed psycho. He is not sentient anymore - drugs have burned all the remnants of his mind out of his head. People on bath salts engage in cannibalism, they eat their victims alive. You cannot reason with them, and you are not Jesus to help them with a handy herd of swine. You must act according to your abilities.

    Admittedly, I am not at this level, but I’m working to get there. Someone has to do it. Maybe me, maybe one of my friends, maybe someone on FR, maybe ... YOU.

    YOU SAID: That is appreciated. You do not see yourself as a Soldier. You know better than anyone what you can and cannot do, and that is just fine.

    God calls me a soldier who performs warfare in prayer.

    You therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ. No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of [this] life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.
    II TIMOTHY 2:3-4

    II CORINTHIANS 10:4
    4 (For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)

    I TIMOTHY 1:18
    18 ¶ This charge I commit unto thee, son Timothy, according to the prophecies which went before on thee, that thou by them mightest war a good warfare;

    YOU SAID: However someone else has to be a soldier, a guard, a teacher, a hunter, a sailor. It would be incorrect to preach to them that their occupations are wrong and they have to change. A soldier cannot give up his arms because when the neighboring King decides to attack your King you will be all dead - it is the soldier’s duty to protect you.

    Even John the Baptist never told the soldiers who asked him to quit. He just told them to live clean and holy.

    LUKE 3:14
    14 And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse [any] falsely; and be content with your wages.

    Thank you again for your time, and your patient thoughtful reply. I hope on a scale of 1 to 100, I have budged you at least 1-2 points toward my point of view.

    ==
    Best Regards,
    Freeper ROTB
    http://holyrestoration.weebly.com
    **Please** let me know if I can add you to the “Holy Restoration” ping list.
    But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. - James 1:22

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/18/2013 9:09:38 PM PDT · 83 of 90
    ROTB to cva66snipe

    Hello cva66snipe -

    Thank you for your thoughtful reply.

    YOU SAID: Why would China and Russia want to go through the huge expense and massive naval build up it would take for a land invasion on U.S. soil? Still yet in doing so using a nuke makes no sense whatsoever. Nuking means they don’t use the land either. It takes ships lots and lots of ships and planes to move troops.

    1) Nuking us from their subs means eliminating our nuclear stockpiles and our Army/Navy/Air Force bases, precluding us from retaliating with our own nukes, or defending ourselves. From what I gather, these silos are in the heartland of the USA, not in the population centers. MCAS Miramar is in San Diego, there are other Naval bases in Seattle, etc ...

    2) According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_fallout#Short_term “Fallout radiation decays exponentially relatively quickly with time. Most areas become fairly safe for travel and decontamination after three to five weeks.”

    So, once we were nuked and EMPd into being defenseless, and then surrendering, they could take their sweet time in bringing troops here to occupy, rape, pillage, kill, etc.

    3) Russia is currently the #1 oil exporting nation. They have cash, as does China. Moving troops here to occupy and rape the land of all it’s oil and gold would be an investment once we were subdued.

    >The war of wars is to take place in Israel and ships will
    >not be needed to move armies there by her enemies.

    What nation is Babylon of Revelation 18? I realize it says “city” or “polis” in the Greek, but could it not be the USA itself? Here’s one source I just dug up: http://www.escapeallthesethings.com/america-mystery-babylon-great.htm

    Here’s one I’ve known about for while: http://www.handofhelp.com/vision_2.php

    YOU SAID: Thus we need to protest and get policies that weaken us as a nation changed both morally and fisical including our domestic production capabilities to meet all our own needs not relying on China.

    One of the many reasons I am calling for a Holy Restoration of Christian living, is because of this verse:

    PROVERBS 14:34
    34 ¶ Righteousness exalts a nation: but sin [is] a reproach to any people.

    We ain’t righteous, as I already pointed out at the top of this thread in my original post. So we’re dragged down with debt, poverty, and soft tyranny.

    I don’t blame President Obama and the Democrats. They are so obviously unsaved heathen who think God is make believe.

    They think God is make believe, because we Christians are not Holy, nor do we collectively trust God to do his part of 2 Chronicles 7:14 if we do ours:

    II CHRONICLES 7:14
    14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

    YOU SAID: The foreign nations do not attack us because We The People are armed thus making us a major army far beyond our official government funded military.

    To occupy a nation, one needs to only control parts of it, not every square mile. China has the personnel to pick the USA clean like ants on a dead squirrel.

    YOU SAID: Several other points. If out forefather who were subjects to the crown had not taken a very huge leap of faith and formed this nation to start with but rather let the king continue to run roughshod this nation would not have been born. Some were righteous or believers and some were not.

    We’d be like Canada, worst case scenario. The UK was great because it WAS Christian. We were great because we were also a Christian nation. Here’s the verse:

    What joy for the nation whose God is the LORD, whose people he has chosen as his inheritance.
    http://bible.cc/psalms/33-12.htm

    Liberty of a nation is the product of Godliness, not guns and rebellion. Of all the quotes on this page http://www.internationalwallofprayer.org/Q-01-FAMOUS-QUOTES.html the following is my favorite.

    “Tell your prince that this Book (the BIBLE) is the secret of England’s greatness”
    Queen victoria

    YOU SAID: Unrighteous leaders will demand you do unrighteous things.

    True, but we are to pray for them, because God can change their hearts, or save them.

    I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, [and] giving of thanks, be made for all men;For kings, and [for] all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.For this [is] good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
    1 Timothy 2:1-4

    Thanks for your time.

    ==
    Best Regards,
    Freeper ROTB
    http://holyrestoration.weebly.com
    **Please** let me know if I can add you to the “Holy Restoration” ping list.
    But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. - James 1:22

  • Church Wonít Do Weddings For Straight Couples Until Same-Sex Marriage Is Legal

    03/18/2013 7:56:10 PM PDT · 50 of 73
    ROTB to massmike

    We need to pray for them, that’s for sure.

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/18/2013 5:45:35 PM PDT · 79 of 90
    ROTB to backwoods-engineer

    YOU SAID: Buddy, you are confused about what America is. The government here, at all levels, is CONSTRAINED BY THE CONSTITUTION. The Constitution says we have the right to keep and bear arms, and that the government shall not infringe it. If it does, it is THE GOVERNMENT THAT IS IN THE WRONG, not me.

    When the government violates the Constitution and sends police/soldiers door to door to collect guns AND those citizens the government visits assert their 2nd amendment rights and shoot the soldiers/police in violation of Matthew 26:52 and Romans 13:4 and Titus 3:1 and 1 Peter 2:13 it does not matter who is in the wrong, since both of the aforementioned kick off CW2, which INVITES INVASION by China / Russia / friends.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if China / Russia / friends don’t have “patriots” shilling here on FR and other Christian / Conservative forums for CW2.

    If CW2 starts and rises to a fever pitch, it makes parking some submarines off the coast, nuking and EMPing us, and then invading with troops so very much easier.

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/18/2013 5:45:24 PM PDT · 78 of 90
    ROTB to backwoods-engineer

    >Even the Lord Jesus did not require His disciples to
    >disarm. That only leads to death.

    That’s wrong. Jesus means no such thing by Luke 22:36-38.

    http://holyrestoration.weebly.com/faq.html#Q1

    >God’s judgement is going to be on this country. We cannot
    >stop it.

    You and I disagree. Re-read the book of Jonah. A holy restoration of Christian living through humility before God, repentance, turning from sin, and prayer for our fellow countrymen and Christians will stop the coming destruction.

    Hope you’ll help.

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/18/2013 5:44:07 PM PDT · 77 of 90
    ROTB to US Navy Vet

    Yeah, it’s pretty bad here in CA.

    But, what am I saying that would launch more evil in your state, or mine?

    ==
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    Freeper ROTB
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    But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. - James 1:22

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/18/2013 5:43:57 PM PDT · 76 of 90
    ROTB to Texas Fossil

    Glory to God. May we believe and do.

    ==
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    But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. - James 1:22

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/18/2013 5:43:52 PM PDT · 75 of 90
    ROTB to Greysard

    YOU SAID: However I wouldn’t go so far as to declare all soldiers sinners.

    I would not either per Romans 13:4 and Luke 3:14.

    YOU SAID: Imagine that a violent killer walks around a playground and kills children one by one. One Christian, with a loaded 1911 in the holster, is present and can act. He orders the criminal to stop. The criminal ignores him. (Why not, the killer is not a Christian just by the nature of his acts.) What would a true Christian, per your definition, do?

    A true Christian would be ...

    1) running a deliverance ministry, so “psychos” are delivered of murderous demons per http://holyrestoration.weebly.com/deliverance.html

    2) praying and fasting and binding the powers of darkness across the nation so such things would not happen

    YOU SAID: However in many cases you are proposing to forgive a criminal for harm that he caused to someone else. You do not have authority to do so.

    Wait, say my daughter is killed by a murderer. Should I not grieve? Would this not be a challenge for me to obey Jesus’ calls to forgive?

    For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
    Matthew 6:14-15

    And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses. But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.
    Mark 11:25-26

    Indeed, I cannot forgive man’s sins so far as their standing with the LORD is concerned. The murderer goes to heaven or hell based on how they respond to Jesus Christ. What IS my responsibility is that I do not hate that offender in my heart, and that I don’t be bitter against them. Hating or holding unforgiveness jeopardizes MY soul.

    YOU SAID: You have pure evil in front of you - and instead of stepping up to the plate and doing your part you ... you ask someone else (God) to do it for you!

    I am stepping up to the plate by working to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and using my God given authority to come against evil in this country, and to pray for sinners to get saved, and for Christians to stop backsliding.

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/18/2013 5:43:47 PM PDT · 74 of 90
    ROTB to ColdSteelTalon

    Jesus gave us freedom from the consequence of sin thats true and I am thankful for it.

    ***

    Make sure you’re not trusting that you have liberty TO sin:

    http://eternalsecurity.us

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/17/2013 11:17:20 PM PDT · 57 of 90
    ROTB to Democrat_media; concerned about politics

    ROTB said “guns are a false God”

    sounds like trying to disarm us

    ***

    Actually, with ...

    1) humility before Jesus
    2) repentance
    3) turning from sin
    4) praying for ourselves and our country

    ... we ARM ourselves against our real enemies who are Satan’s legions.

    No need to fire a shot to get our country back.

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/17/2013 11:12:42 PM PDT · 56 of 90
    ROTB to Vendome; concerned about politics
    The Chinese and Russians wouldn’t want to be here. Besides, the ruskies can barely mange to keep a battalion supplied with vehicles that run reliably.



    They’d be easy pickings coming off their vehicles as we flanked and flanked and flanked til they got dizzy and gave up.


    ==


    Not if they nuked and EMPd us first from their offshore submarines.


    1. Chinese sub goes undetected until it surfaces far too close to a US Carrier group in 2006.

    2. United States aircraft carriers are routinely “sunk” in exercises against mere Diesel-Electric subs.

    3. Russian submarines detected in the Gulf of Mexico in 2012, off the east coast in 2009, and off the East Coast in 2012.


    They probably have people shilling here FOR CW2, and for rebellion, and for gun worship, and denigrating prayer and promoting guns as a means to save us.


    They won't.

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/17/2013 10:59:01 PM PDT · 55 of 90
    ROTB to concerned about politics; Vendome

    Had our nation not had a sword, Hitler may have taken over the world. Does ROTB believe it was satan who gave us the wisdom to save ourselves - and the Jewish people? Or were we saved because we were armed, and aided by the hand of God?

    ***

    Regarding serving as a soldier in Luke 3:14 John the Baptist did not tell the soldiers to quit. “What should we do?” asked some soldiers. John replied, “Don’t extort money or make false accusations. And be content with your pay.”

    Furthermore, when a government representative bears a weapon, it is sanctioned by God per Romans 13:4 saying, “For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him that doeth evil.”

    Protecting a nation from invasion is “good”.

    Had enough missionaries and prayer been sent to Japan and Germany, we never would have needed to fight that war. Jesus called us to pray continuously.

    LUKE 18:1
    1 ¶ And he spake a parable unto them [to this end], that men ought always to pray, and not to faint;

    If we do so, we can get this nation back without firing a shot. THAT’s what I’m posting, and praying, and working for.

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/17/2013 10:50:12 PM PDT · 54 of 90
    ROTB to Wyrd bi√į ful ar√¶d

    If the poster is, indeed, calling for disarmament, then s/he is grossly misinformed, and totally disconnected from reality. The old example of the person in distress crying out ‘God, why didn’t you help me,’ and God facepalming as he points out all the tools He had provided, would apply.

    ***

    No. I am calling for people to trust the LORD in that we ...

    1) humble ourselves before Jesus
    2) confess our sins
    3) stop sinning
    4) pray for others
    5) goto 4 until nation healed

    2 Chronicles 7:14 says

    1) we repent
    2) God heals

    We’re trying to do #2 with politics, guns, debates, when #2 is God’s job.

    #1 is our job.

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/17/2013 10:40:33 PM PDT · 53 of 90
    ROTB to Sporke; Texas Fossil

    Civil War may very well be the ONLY answer. Elections change nothing anymore. How long since spending has been cut, on anything other than the military?

    I think we’re due for a revolt, politicians won’t listen to anything else.

    ***

    Like I said, CW2 will invite invasion.

    China/Russia are watching like vultures over a dying horse. CW2 is all the distraction they need to invade with their friends.

    Don’t do it. It is national suicide.

    A holy restoration of Christian living and virtue is the answer when we humble ourselves before the LORD, turn from sin, and pray for ourselves, our friends, our enemies, our loved ones, our leaders, and our nation.

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/17/2013 10:36:05 PM PDT · 52 of 90
    ROTB to Texas Fossil; CodeToad

    We do have a nation that is threatened, but as you said the solution is not CW. Anyone advocating that is suspect.

    ***

    Most definitely, I am not advocating CW2. I’m warning anyone who listens that ...

    1) continued rebellion against God
    2) shooting soldiers or police who come for your guns
    3) etc

    ... will start CW2, which will invite invasion, which will be the end.

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/17/2013 10:33:09 PM PDT · 51 of 90
    ROTB to Greysard

    > It is a laudable personal choice to forgive someone who
    >injured you.

    There is a difference between Christianity and American culture.

    And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses. But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.
    Mark 11:25-26

    >However it is your duty to stop that (often insane!)
    >person from doing more harm to others.

    MATTHEW 5:39
    39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

    MATTHEW 26:52
    52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

    >God may want you to be peaceful, but He does not want you
    >to be extinct.

    God wants us to obey:

    LUKE 6:46
    46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

    >God probably would like1 such an instrument, a good
    >person, to be at Sandy Hook, armed, and stop the killing
    >in its tracks.

    More likely, God wants us repenting of our sins, and worshiping and trusting Him, and believing Him in faith for casting away demons from insane people, so such things like Sandy Hook don’t happen.

    >A good Christian, if he was wounded by Adam Lanza but
    >found himself in position to shoot the killer, would do so;

    Please give me Bible verses to make the case for this. Make sure you don’t contradict the ones I already gave.

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/17/2013 10:33:03 PM PDT · 50 of 90
    ROTB to Vendome

    That you have guns at the top of your list demonstrates your lack of moral backbone and strikes me as intellectually shallow.

    ***

    Please don’t confuse Christianity with American gun culture.

    MATTHEW 26:52
    52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

    MATTHEW 5:39
    39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

    Luke 6:30
    Give to anyone who asks; and when things are taken away from you, don’t try to get them back.

    ***

    China and Russia haven’t the capacity to invade and the army that invades Wisconsin each year would be enough men at arms to repel them.

    1) Obviously they grow, and arm themselves, and they’re thinking about it as I already posted.
    2) Russia is the #1 oil exporting nation in the world, and oil is expensive. They have lots of money for arms.
    3) Remember Jeremiah 37:10? If we keep sinning as I’ve already posted, God will make what little they have enough to defeat the USA.

    JEREMIAH 37:10
    10 For though ye had smitten the whole army of the Chaldeans that fight against you, and there remained [but] wounded men among them, [yet] should they rise up every man in his tent, and burn this city with fire.

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/17/2013 10:32:59 PM PDT · 49 of 90
    ROTB to INVAR; Admin Moderator

    While I would agree for the need for lukewarm Churchianity to repent and do II Chronicles 7:13-14, I do not think SPAMMING the board with the same vanity thread for two nights in a row under ‘news’ is demonstrating anything other than attention-seeking.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2997647/posts

    ***

    When I posted it, I did specifically mark this thread as both:

    1) Bloggers & Personal
    2) VANITY

    There could very well be something I don’t understand about how to use FreeRepublic.

    When I hit the “Post” button, I am greeted with the following options:

    - Bloggers & Personal <—— I SELECTED THIS
    - General/Chat
    - GOP Club
    - News/Activism <—— I DID NOT SELECT THIS
    - Religion
    - RLC Liberty Caucus
    - Smoky Backroom
    - VetsCoR

    Furthermore:

    1) I always update what I post to reflect what I learn from those who respond
    2) I post it at different times of the day so different people see it
    3) I post under different options each time, again, so that different people see it
    4) During the 2004 elections, I had several VANITY posts during the same day where I asked for advice on flyering people’s cars. Nobody minded.

    Admin Moderator: Is there an official FAQ or list of guidelines I can read on posting etiquette?

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/17/2013 10:32:54 PM PDT · 48 of 90
    ROTB to ALASKA

    >A Trojan horse....

    No. Only misunderstood.

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/17/2013 10:32:50 PM PDT · 47 of 90
    ROTB to GeronL

    >I do not know anyone who worships a gun. They are a tool to
    >protect ourselves and our families.

    Idolatry is anything that comes between you and God.

    If you rely on a gun or money, and not God, they become idols. One does not need to ...

    - bow down to it
    - offer prayers to it
    - burn incense to it

    ... for something to be an idol.

  • Leftwing Hypocrisy on Standing Armies Used Against Citizens

    03/17/2013 10:32:45 PM PDT · 139 of 140
    ROTB to Olog-hai

    >>Old Covenant, Old Testament which is gone

    >The new covenant is a renewal of the old, not something
    >utterly new and contradictory to the old.

    You forgot about this ...

    HEBREWS 8:13
    13 In that he saith, A new [covenant], he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old [is] ready to vanish away.

    ... just as I neglected to mention what I said in light of this ...

    II TIMOTHY 3:16
    16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

    ... and though the New Covenant is “not something utterly new and contradictory to the old”, neither is it only a repackaging old ...

    MATTHEW 13:35
    35 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.

    Have a great day.

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/17/2013 10:32:43 PM PDT · 46 of 90
    ROTB to concerned about politics; CodeToad; Fiji Hill; Big Red Badger

    Then said he unto them, “But now, he that hath a purse, let him take [it], and likewise [his] scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.And they said, Lord, behold, here [are] two swords. And he said unto them, “It is enough.

    Luke 22:36-38


    Jesus our LORD, said in Luke 22:36 and Luke 22:37 "he that has no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one" because Jesus wanted, "this that is written must yet be accomplished in me” and then Jesus quotes scripture saying,And he was reckoned among the transgressors"


    Breaking down the above verses:


    He that has no sword … let him buy one”


    the disciples should acquire swords so

    this that is written


    the Scripture I am about to quote

    must yet be accomplished in me


    must and will happen right now to me

    And he


    Isaiah 53:12 being quoted: he = Jesus

    was reckoned among the transgressors


    Isaiah 53:12 being quoted: was counted with sinners

    And they said, “Lord, behold, here [are] two swords


    the disciples tell Jesus they have two swords

    Jesus says, “It is enough”


    Jesus confirms the disciples have enough swords to fulfill Isaiah 53:12

    I have parsed Luke 22:36-38 in a way that is consistent with classic commentaries on Luke 22:36-38 by Matthew Henry and Jamieson Fausset & Brown, and you will find they don’t give any license at all to taking up arms against authorities.

    Jesus wanted the disciples to buy swords, so scripture could be fulfilled when Jesus would be "reckoned among the transgressors" when his disciples wielded swords and made themselves "transgressors" for Jesus to be "reckoned among the transgressors."


    So, if you also want to be a “transgressor”, despite scripture telling us to be “perfect” in Matthew 5:48, Matthew 19:21, Luke 6:40, John 17:23, 1 Corinthians 2:6, 2 Corinthians 13:11, Philippians 3:15, 1 Thessalonians 3:10, 2 Timothy 3:17, Hebrews 13:21, don’t pray for yourself to grow and for others to be saved, drop your Bible, pick up your gun, and steel yourself to fight the government agents who may come for it.


    Jesus said the word never contradicts itself in John 10:35. So when Jesus, who is the Word, and LORD, and the 2nd person of the Godhead, said in Matthew 26:52, “Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword, it is in perfect harmony with the above interpretation of Luke 22:36-38.


    Otherwise, you would have to think that the LORD God, who made every star, world, plant and animal in all their glorious majesty and order in 6 days, and is called Master, and LORD, the Rock, and The Good Shepherd, would so plainly contradict Himself.


    So when scripture says very plainly in 1 Peter 2:13 that we should, “Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors, as to them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well, no license is given to us to rebel against governing authorities.


    The Bible further says in Romans 13:4 that government “bears not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him that does evil”. If government forces kill you when you rebel with arms, it’s with God’s backing and approval.

    If despite all the above scripture, your attitude is still that of “God will forgive me for rebelling and fighting the government when they come for my guns” then ask yourself if God would also forgive witchcraft given 1 Samuel 15:23 says rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft”. Many a self-professed Christian “patriot” who would think nothing of pointing a gun at a government agent and squeezing the trigger, would quickly and decisively declare they would never partake in witchcraft, since it is so clearly a damnable sin committed by the arch-enemies of Jesus Christ.

    Yet, the rebellion you still desire “is asdamnable witchcraft in God’s eyes.

    Also, again, when you rebel with arms, you invite invasion from China/Russia/etc. They would be fools not to take advantage of your rebellion.

    Furthermore, it is not necessary at all to fight tyrannical government with arms if we:

    1. take up the New Covenant defensive and offensive spiritual weapons of God per Ephesians 6:12 and 2 Corinthians 10:3-4 against evil spirits that stir up our elected and appointed officials to do evil

    2. we pray with faith since God can control and guide the hearts of President Obama, Congress, the Supreme Court, government bureaucrats, governors, mayors, state legislators, city councils, the Police, and our Armed Forces per Proverbs 21:1, and we are commanded to pray for them per 1 Timothy 2:1-3. We pray that many witnesses of the Gospel be sent to them per Matthew 9:37, they be convicted of sin like in Acts 2:37, and that God grants them repentance per 2 Timothy 2:25


    Only then will they lead us with ever increasing prudence, and Godly wisdom.


    A substantive reply to the aforementioned is not, “I feel in my spirit that it’s my divine right by natural law to fight the government with my guns.”


    We're Christians, so if our feelings contradict Scripture, they are error.


    After I stood face to face with a Mormon and tore down Joseph Smith and/or the reliability of the Book of Mormon, he put his hands on his chest, looked at me very earnestly, and told me that the Holy Spirit tells him the Book of Mormon is of God.


    Therefore, to avoid error we need to give scriptural reasons for why we believe and do.


    To give a scriptural reply of substance you might:


    1. Parse Luke 22:36-38 in an intelligible way where the disciples are NOT transgressors

    2. Find a reputable commentary that agrees with your position

    3. Given John 10:35 says scripture has no contradictions, please explain how your interpretation of Luke 22:36-38 does not conflict with:

      1. Matthew 26:52 which says, “Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.’

      1. Matthew 5:44 which says, “Love your enemies.

      2. Titus 3:1-2 which says, “Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work, To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, [but] gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.

      3. 1 Peter 2:13-14 which says, “Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.

      4. Romans 13:1-2 which says, “Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resists the power, resists the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.




  • I Hung My Head

    03/17/2013 7:53:26 PM PDT · 25 of 26
    ROTB to TribalPrincess2U

    May we come to Him, for a holy restoration of Christian living in the USA.

    No more getting drunk Saturday night, sleeping with someone, and then praising God Sunday morning.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2997910/posts

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    Freeper ROTB
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    But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. - James 1:22

  • I Hung My Head

    03/17/2013 7:47:21 PM PDT · 20 of 26
    ROTB to Norm Lenhart

    The sin and lukewarmness among Christians, is the reason we have so many enemies inside and outside the USA.

    It’s just like in Bible days: The more Israel sinned, the more and more brutal enemies God would raise up.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2997910/posts

    ==
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    Freeper ROTB
    http://holyrestoration.weebly.com
    **Please** let me know if I can add you to the “Holy Restoration” ping list.
    But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. - James 1:22

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/17/2013 7:37:45 PM PDT · 2 of 90
    ROTB to hope; hiredhand; bayliving; Maudeen; CityCenter; Greetings_Puny_Humans; yldstrk

    Ping!

    Added a FAQ to the web site at: http://holyrestoration.weebly.com/faq.html

  • Calling All Christians: Rebellion brings Civil War 2, and invasion by China/Russia/etc. (VANITY)

    03/17/2013 7:34:56 PM PDT · 1 of 90
    ROTB
    Brothers and sisters, a holy restoration is coming to the USA.

    I beg you, do your part.

  • McConnell vows to repeal Obama health care law

    03/16/2013 12:13:52 PM PDT · 61 of 70
    ROTB to lentulusgracchus

    We need to pray for President Obama AND McConnell and all of Congress to get saved.

    Why? Don’t you want them to be punished, to writhe in Tartarus for all eternity?

    ***

    No. Hell is a terrible place, and the Lake of Fire is forever.

    No. God help them.

  • Tyranny: The Founding Fathers Took A Stand Against It. Now It Is Our Turn

    03/16/2013 11:32:49 AM PDT · 41 of 41
    ROTB to central_va

    China / Russia / North Korea / Venezuela / Cuba

    So who invaded the US/CS during the last Civil War? You are insane.

    ***

    No man.

    1) nuclear submarines parked off the coast can insta-nuke any coastal cities
    2) nuclear submarines can also launch EMP blasts
    3) suitcase nukes

    Civil War 2 will provide all the distraction our enemies need.

    CW2 = suicide. It will bring the end.

    Our soldiers won’t be ready to fly/fight when they can’t reach their families during the height of CW2.

    “Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand”
    Matthew 12:25

  • Tyranny: The Founding Fathers Took A Stand Against It. Now It Is Our Turn

    03/16/2013 11:21:05 AM PDT · 40 of 41
    ROTB to Big Red Badger

    1) We do holiness
    2) God does healing

    Politics ain’t cutting it. God can.

    Signed,
    Freeper ROTB
    **Please let me know if I can add you to the “Holiness Restoration” ping list.**
    But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. - JAMES 1:22

  • Tyranny: The Founding Fathers Took A Stand Against It. Now It Is Our Turn

    03/15/2013 7:32:39 PM PDT · 35 of 41
    ROTB to central_va

    c. Titus 3:1-2 which says, “Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work, To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, [but] gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.”
    d. 1 Peter 2:13-14 which says, “Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.”
    e. Romans 13:1-2 which says, “Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resists the power, resists the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.”

  • Tyranny: The Founding Fathers Took A Stand Against It. Now It Is Our Turn

    03/15/2013 7:29:20 PM PDT · 33 of 41
    ROTB to central_va

    If that leads to Civil War, so be it. Bring. I relish the thought. Nay, dare I say hope for it.

    ***

    China / Russia / North Korea / Venezuela / Cuba will all invade during the chaos CW2 will create. They will EMP and nuke us when we’re all caught up in ourselves, and then they’ll stream in the troops.

    I SAMUEL 15:23
    23 For rebellion [is as] the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness [is as] iniquity and idolatry ...

    You wouldn’t think of picking up a “book of spells” and thus giving yourself to Satan, but you’d pick up arms and fight the government?

    a. which says, “Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work, To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, [but] gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.”
    b. which says, “Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.”
    c. which says, “Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resists the power, resists the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.”

    Even if you can secede without a fight, California Democrats will bankrupt the state, and invite China in for “progressivism”.

    A restoration of holiness to American Christianity is the only way out.

  • Tyranny: The Founding Fathers Took A Stand Against It. Now It Is Our Turn

    03/15/2013 4:41:55 PM PDT · 19 of 41
    ROTB to EXCH54FE

    The writer is wrong.

    Civil War will invite invasion. It signs the death certificate of this country.

    Don’t do it.

    A restoration of Christian holiness is the only way out.

    http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2997340/posts

  • Tyranny: The Founding Fathers Took A Stand Against It. Now It Is Our Turn

    03/15/2013 4:40:36 PM PDT · 18 of 41
    ROTB to The Duke; Craftmore

    A Christian restoration of holiness can fix this.

    Check out some of the links in the first paragraph at the following link:

    http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2997340/posts

  • Protesters battle cops during rioting after 16-year-old was shot in the back (Shortened title)

    03/15/2013 4:38:53 PM PDT · 32 of 56
    ROTB to Dallas59

    We need Jesus to visit this country like in past restorations of holiness, that restored Godliness.

    Things were pretty riotous after the Revolutionary war, UNTIL people started to pray, and many got saved.

    http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2997340/posts

  • The Real Problem With Rob Portman's Flip Flop On Marriage

    03/15/2013 4:37:41 PM PDT · 3 of 9
    ROTB to The Looking Spoon

    This is why we need to pray for our elected officials, among many.

    http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2997340/posts

  • Republican senator reverses his opposition to gay marriage after his 21-year-old son comes out

    03/15/2013 11:51:56 AM PDT · 131 of 162
    ROTB to Pinkbell

    We’re not praying for our leaders as we should, which is why stuff like this happens.

    http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2997255/posts

  • McConnell vows to repeal Obama health care law

    03/15/2013 11:50:58 AM PDT · 23 of 70
    ROTB to Java4Jay

    We need to pray for President Obama AND McConnell and all of Congress to get saved.

    http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2997255/posts

  • Calling All Christians: The LORD desires prayer for Obama/Government if He is to give him wisdom.

    03/11/2013 1:58:03 PM PDT · 105 of 111
    ROTB to evangmlw
    Never read where God gives people like yourself to read hearts and define them as being full of hate, when you’ve never even met them or know anything about them. Never read it because it’s not in there. God’s word says, only He can read the heart of man — HAVE YOU SET YOURSELF UP AS GOD? Repent! Jesus said those who know Him, will obey Him! In Romans you can read about reprobates who worship the creation rather than worship God.


    ***

    O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.
    Matthew 12:34

    I don't have to read hearts, when they open their mouths and showed me exactly what is in their hearts. Did you read the snarky bitter drivel I was responding to in the earlier parts of this thread?

  • Calling All Christians: The LORD desires prayer for Obama/Government if He is to give him wisdom.

    03/11/2013 1:06:30 PM PDT · 104 of 111
    ROTB to Hayride

    I used to pray that our leaders would be guided by wisdom but I stopped when I began to think that very few of them are interested in God. Also, I figured for prophecy to come to pass, leaders will have to do a lot of wicked and traitorous actions.

    Maybe I’m looking at it the wrong way? I don’t want to be a downer.

    ***

    Yes, you’re looking at it wrong.

    PROVERBS 21:1
    1 ¶ The king’s heart [is] in the hand of the LORD, [as] the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will.

    ... God can change the heart of Obama and Congress, but we need to pray and repent.

  • Leftwing Hypocrisy on Standing Armies Used Against Citizens

    03/04/2013 8:35:14 PM PST · 136 of 140
    ROTB to Gilbo_3

    you say that the line isnt crossed by guys because they have badges...we’ll have to agree to disagree on what i consider self defense...

    ***

    You know, you should spend more time in the Bible, so you can present a solid case to yourself, and then perhaps me and my ilk, of why you have standing before God to defend your life with deadly force in this New Covenant.

    Not because you owe me anything: You don’t owe me anything. Not even a reply to this post. We agreed to disagree.

    But for the sake of your eternal destiny and soul, you should be able to chain together verses of scripture, which has no contradictions per John 10:35, to be assured that you’re making the correct decision.

    We only have one chance to live right, and then we are judged per Hebrews 9:27.

    Putting 20 hours into studying into this matter further, until you hit a bedrock of unassailable truth, would be an extremely valuable use of your time for you, and those you influence with your life, words, and actions.

    Have a great day.