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  • E Mails Link Walker to Secret E Mail System

    06/03/2015 2:02:00 PM PDT · 122 of 142
    Sideshow Bob to The_Victor
    If you're from North of the Red River, Yankee is appropriate. If you're as above and living south of the Red River, you're a damned Yankee. For the record, Yankee isn't a pejorative. My wife is from Connecticut. If I called you a commie (sometimes synonymous with yankee), then you've been insulted.

    ***

    Actually, as a Wisconsinite, being called a Yankee IS a pejorative. We wear our scars and harbor grudges for insane amounts of time.

    During the 1957 World Series between the New York Yankees and the Milwaukee Braves, New York sportswriters dubbed Milwaukee as Bushville. The Braves won the Series and every Wisconsin newspaper had banner headlines screaming "Bushville Wins!"

    Yankee has been a virtual swear word in Wisconsin ever since.

    FYI, the term "cheesehead" was intended as a pejorative by Chicagoans against Wisconsin residents. We turned it around to a positive, unifying descriptive term and created an entire lucrative industry of cheese wedge shaped headgear.

    Of course, we have our own term for residents of Illinois - who invade our resort towns, highways, lakes and parks every summer. In polite circles, they are called Flatlanders. In coarser circles, they are called FIBs or FIBbers - an abbreviation for Fornicating (this is a family forum) Illinois B****** (a person of dubious parentage).

  • E Mails Link Walker to Secret E Mail System

    06/03/2015 9:21:16 AM PDT · 77 of 142
    Sideshow Bob to The_Victor
    Yankee?

    That was the other pejorative Texans tried to tag me with. Again, I'm from Wisconsin. I believe the term you meant to use was "cheesehead."

  • E Mails Link Walker to Secret E Mail System

    06/03/2015 8:41:03 AM PDT · 71 of 142
    Sideshow Bob to The_Victor
    Wisconsin.... Crap, I can't believe I got that wrong. Maybe I am that dense. It's all the Great White North to a simple Texan. :)

    ***

    Well, that explains it. I lived in Austin 1990-91. I would tell Texans that I was originally from Milwaukee and they would respond with "So, how did y'all like Minnesota?"

    At first, I tried to correct them. That usually drew a response of "Well, if it's north of the Red River, it's not really important!"

    Texas - it's like a whole another country!

  • E Mails Link Walker to Secret E Mail System

    06/03/2015 8:33:13 AM PDT · 67 of 142
    Sideshow Bob to Boogieman
    However, if you want to say these laws are so hard to follow that we should just ignore people who do violate them, then you are equivocating and excusing criminal behavior.

    Do you know how silly these convictions are?

    There was a low level secretarial type staffer who -during work hours - posted a comment on a news story using a pseudonym on the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel website. The Urinal-Slantinel violated their own privacy policy and gave up this poor woman to the Milwaukee DA to help him attempt to build a larger case against Walker.

    Should she have been using county property and work time to post on a public website? No.

    But, this woman lost her job and had her professional career and personal finances ruined as a result of her minor indiscretion.

    As Milwaukee County Executive, Walker requested the initial investigation because his staff suspected malfeasances with a veterans' benefit fund that had devolved into county control. That low level aide did steal from the fund. That should have been the end of the investigation.

    Instead, it was discovered that his live-in boyfriend possessed child porn and had engaged in child solicitation. The DA had this pervert dead to rights, but delayed charging him in a bogus attempt to build a case against Walker.

    Next came the above-mentioned prosecution of the newspaper website poster. By this time Walker had been elected Governor, so the unwarranted investigation moved to Madison. From there, the DA moved to find violations of campaign laws - where he found one lone instance of a violation by a minor Walker who held a second job running a minor (and losing) campaign of a politician not in Walker's camp.

    After years of finding mainly nothing (and that is the reality of the convictions loudly cited by conservativejoy in this thread), the DA moved on to attempting to criminalize political free speech. The DA has been repeatedly slapped down by supervising judges, his subpoenas have been quashed, he has been ordered to cease his investigation because there is no probable cause or crime and he has now been sued for violating the constitutional rights of his latest targets.

    In the meantime, the DA has refused to disclose how much this "investigation" has cost taxpayers. Yes, a crime has been committed. The Milwaukee DA has stolen millions - perhaps hundreds of millions - from Wisconsin taxpayers.

    How's that for equivocation!!!!

  • E Mails Link Walker to Secret E Mail System

    06/03/2015 8:02:58 AM PDT · 52 of 142
    Sideshow Bob to conservativejoy
    So, because there is another unrelated fishing expedition being flogged and fomented by Wisconsin Democrats that is about to begin, it's okay to re-post the old crapola?

    Somebody PLEASE zot this troll!

  • E Mails Link Walker to Secret E Mail System

    06/03/2015 7:53:41 AM PDT · 46 of 142
    Sideshow Bob to Boogieman
    Well, plenty of politicians manage to obey the laws without any problem, they aren’t that hard to follow. You can have your staff work on your campaign, but NOT while they are being paid to do government business. You can use private email for your campaign staff but NOT to conceal government business, or to conceal work done for your campaign using government resources.

    Trying to equivocate on this in order to excuse Walker just makes us look just as scummy as the Democrats.

    ***

    Please know some facts before you post.

    Walker's aide was unjustly convicted for working on another candidate's unrelated campaign, not his. In fact, Walker supported the other candidate.

    The liberals and the media in Wisconsin (but I repeat myself) have propped up this lame story for 5 years. The Milwaukee County DA has been illegally leaking material to the media while pushing to have materials seized in secret John Doe made public in dribs and drabs to perpetuate the image that Walker has done something wrong.

    Now, you have morons on this forum (and I do mean to use that term) attempting to dredge up this non-story because they prefer another 2016 GOP candidate.

    It isn't equivocation, but using bogus slimy tactics make YOU look just as scummy as the Democrats.

    FULL DISCLOSURE - Even though I live in Wisconsin and am proud to have Scott Walker as a personal friend, I am a Cruz supporter.

  • E Mails Link Walker to Secret E Mail System

    06/03/2015 7:32:19 AM PDT · 24 of 142
    Sideshow Bob to The_Victor
    No, the existence of the email is not a violation of Wisconsin law (not Michigan - are you really that dense?).

    This is an old news story. The investigation and complicit news coverage is part of a legally dubious 5-year fishing expedition to indict Scott Walker conducted by a liberal Democrat Milwaukee County DA who is under fire right now for his repeated abuse of Wisconsin's John Doe law.

    Nice try, troll. Go find another bridge!

  • Huckabee’s Candidacy Could Mean Showdown with Libertarians

    05/05/2015 1:01:12 PM PDT · 79 of 97
    Sideshow Bob to Servant of the Cross
    No, false posts here. I got sucked in by ansel's insistence and searched for Jim's endorsement. My search found a Huckabee supporter website with a link to Jim's 2008 post. I was so gobsmacked that an "endorsement" existed that I didn't read through to the end of Jim's post.

    I now remember Jim's post and vaguely remember endorsing the strategy of forcing the 2008 GOP nomination to a second ballot. Like Jim, I was a FRedhead back then.

  • Huckabee’s Candidacy Could Mean Showdown with Libertarians

    05/05/2015 12:44:43 PM PDT · 70 of 97
    Sideshow Bob to Jim Robinson
    Number seven, if we can keep Huckabee in the race all the way through, thus preventing McCain or Romney from gaining enough delegates to win the nomination, then maybe, just maybe a deadlocked convention might seek out another candidate.

    OK, I feel better now. You were actually endorsing "None of the Above". Sorry to have doubted you.

    Kind of funny, but kind of sad that the pro-Huckaphony crowd will still trumpet your "endorsement" nearly a decade later.

  • Huckabee’s Candidacy Could Mean Showdown with Libertarians

    05/05/2015 12:39:06 PM PDT · 63 of 97
    Sideshow Bob to Responsibility2nd
    Pretty sure are you?

    See post 47 and put your money where your mouth is.

    ***

    Wow, I'm stunned. Please see:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1962819/posts

    Technically, Jim Robinson (who owns freerepublic.com) endorsed Huckabee and not the website itself.

    Was Jim on or off his meds that day?

    I voted for the Sarah Palin ballot choice in 2008 and hoped for a massive December heart attack for Juan McCain.

  • Huckabee’s Candidacy Could Mean Showdown with Libertarians

    05/05/2015 12:24:23 PM PDT · 52 of 97
    Sideshow Bob to ansel12
    Why not just stay with his politics and positions?

    OK, Huckabee is a faux conservative who is pro-amnesty, pro-tax, and pro-Global Warming.

  • Huckabee’s Candidacy Could Mean Showdown with Libertarians

    05/05/2015 12:21:06 PM PDT · 48 of 97
    Sideshow Bob to ansel12; jimrob
    Sure it did, who do you think FR endorsed when it came down to Romney, Huckabee and McCain?

    Pretty sure Jim Robinson endorsed no one out of that miserable threesome.

  • Huckabee’s Candidacy Could Mean Showdown with Libertarians

    05/05/2015 12:09:29 PM PDT · 40 of 97
    Sideshow Bob to ansel12
    When freerepublic endorsed Huckabee...

    FreeRepublic.com NEVER endorsed Huckabee.

  • Huckabee’s Candidacy Could Mean Showdown with Libertarians

    05/05/2015 11:30:09 AM PDT · 29 of 97
    Sideshow Bob to 2ndDivisionVet

    Cue the James Dobson endorsement in 3...2...1.

  • Huckabee’s Candidacy Could Mean Showdown with Libertarians

    05/05/2015 11:28:19 AM PDT · 28 of 97
    Sideshow Bob to montag813
    Huckabee has one role to fill for the GOP-e: To suck Evangelical votes away from Ted Cruz so that Jeb Bush can win the Southern primaries. That’s all this RINO fraud is in there for.

    How much do you think Jeb is paying Huckabee to enter the race?

  • Huckabee’s Candidacy Could Mean Showdown with Libertarians

    05/05/2015 11:24:00 AM PDT · 27 of 97
    Sideshow Bob to Responsibility2nd
    If a Huckabee candidacy can piss of the libs (and it obviously does) then OK fine.

    Go Mike Huckabee!

    ****

    Well, you were almost right.

    Go AWAY Mike Huckabee!

  • NCAA National Championship Wisconsin v Duke (+1, 140 o/u) CBS TV 9:18pm EDT thread

    04/06/2015 8:36:59 PM PDT · 153 of 279
    Sideshow Bob to Bigtigermike

    Worst officiating ever. I felt like I was watching an NBA game.

  • Elections chief: State needs to revise laws on campaign giving

    03/24/2015 10:55:43 AM PDT · 10 of 11
    Sideshow Bob to afraidfortherepublic
    Kevin Kennedy, chief of the Government Accountability Board (elections). He needs to be replaced.

    He needs to be pilloried, tarred & feathered AND beaten with a sharp, pointed stick.

  • Kareem the Dream? WashPost Lauds NBA Legend's 'Vital, Dynamic' Liberal Voice on Race and Islam

    03/02/2015 8:09:15 AM PST · 11 of 28
    Sideshow Bob to dfwgator
    I thought he changed his name to Roger Murdock.

    Surely, you can't be serious.

  • Cheers Star Blasts Liberal Elites: 'You Don't Want an Ivy Leaguer' in a Disaster

    02/23/2015 10:01:52 AM PST · 34 of 49
    Sideshow Bob to Veggie Todd
    Interesting. Who are the other three?

    "Who are three people who have never been in my kitchen, Alex."

    lol

  • Attend anti-Walker rally and get extra credit, English professor tells students

    02/20/2015 9:51:50 AM PST · 20 of 32
    Sideshow Bob to Steve_Seattle
    "the proposed 13 percent cut"

    Walker has proposed a 13% cut in the State's funding to the UW system. However, State funding represents less than 20% of annual UW funding. The actual impact to the UW budget is roughly a 2% reduction in funding.

    BUT, in exchange for this minor funding cut, Walker is proposing to give the UW system greater autonomy and eliminating legislative reporting requirements and bureaucracy. This new autonomy should result in spending reductions at least equal to (and probably much greater than) the 2% funding cut.

  • Obama to host illegal immigrant Dreamers at White House

    02/04/2015 9:40:28 AM PST · 40 of 47
    Sideshow Bob to 2ndDivisionVet
    U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)
    Washington, D.C. Contact Information:

    To Report Crimes, Suspicious Activity and Suspected Child Exploitation

    By Phone:
    (866) 347-2423
    (U.S., Mexico and Canada)
    TTY for hearing impaired: (802) 872-6196

    Hello Operator, I'd like to report a crime, suspicious activity and/or suspected child exploitation...

    The address? Uh, yes...it's 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

  • Gov. Scott Walker expected to announce plan for support of new Milwaukee Bucks arena

    01/27/2015 10:23:53 AM PST · 23 of 34
    Sideshow Bob to grania
    He might be a nice guy, but his latest statements enable the invasion of the US. For me, that's a stopper. Any politician who does not realize we cannot absorb the non-citizens who are in the US just does not understand the crisis we face. And a stadium scam?

    First of all, I'd like to suggest to you that today's decaffeinated coffees taste just as good as most regular brands.

    Enable a US invasion? Stadium scam?

    Look, I don't 100% agree with Walker's positions on immigration or state financing for a NBA arena, but again - on both issues - I think Scott Walker is attempting to thread a needle.

    That's a lot different than enabling Reconquista or a stadium scam.

  • Gov. Scott Walker expected to announce plan for support of new Milwaukee Bucks arena

    01/27/2015 9:47:55 AM PST · 19 of 34
    Sideshow Bob to grania
    Walker's off my list. He's just another Chamber of Commerce water boy with no DC voting record. I trust him about as much as I'd trust Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush, or Chris Christie.

    I think you're a bit harsh with that assessment.

    Scott is a personal friend of mine. I like him a lot, but much prefer Ted Cruz.

    I don't think Walker is a Chamber waterboy, but I do think he tries too hard to thread the needle in his politics when blunt force might be the better option.

  • Gov. Scott Walker expected to announce plan for support of new Milwaukee Bucks arena

    01/27/2015 9:40:28 AM PST · 17 of 34
    Sideshow Bob to MNlurker
    I am betting that those bars and restaurants in the stadium will be a money loser in the long run. Its is Milwaukee after all and they may go to the games but they’re not going to pregame pay $8 for a beer or $15 for a sandwich. They’ll do their damage outside the stadium before going in...just like Miller and and lambeau ;)

    Yes, but you are forgetting that the composition of Bucks attendees differs from the Average Joes who attend Brewers & Packers games. Most remaining Bucks ticket holders are corporate entities who use the games as an entertainment expense. They will pay $15 for a sandwich & $10 for a beer ($8 beers are so like, five years ago).

  • Gov. Scott Walker expected to announce plan for support of new Milwaukee Bucks arena

    01/27/2015 9:28:06 AM PST · 15 of 34
    Sideshow Bob to skinkinthegrass
    Milwaukee has a Pro Basketball Team?

    Yes. Before Magic Johnson (carrying the ball), Patrick Ewing (traveling) and Allen Iverson (jump stop) killed the observance of basic game rules and the NBA didn't fix the outcome of most games ala pro wrestling, the NBA was an interesting and watchable sport.

    From 1970-1990 the Milwaukee Bucks were consistently among the NBA's best teams - qualifying for the playoffs 19 times, winning a dozen division titles, reaching the conference finals a half dozen times, reaching the Finals in 1974 and winning the championship in 1971.

    I haven't watched much over the last 25 years because I detest the game pro basketball has become, but I've heard that the Bucks actually made the now-diluted playoffs a few times.

  • Gov. Scott Walker expected to announce plan for support of new Milwaukee Bucks arena

    01/27/2015 9:03:45 AM PST · 11 of 34
    Sideshow Bob to MNlurker
    Agree and disagree with your post.

    Not a fan of supplying owners with shiny new palaces AGREE

    and not a big NBA fan AGREE

    Bradley Center needs significant upkeep/upgrade $’s DISAGREE - the building is fine; requires only normal upkeep (false & inflated claims by Bucks and supporters)

    Was built in mind for a hockey team that never came. Not a very good to place to watch basketball at all. AGREE, but most multiuse facilities are not great for all uses

    The bars/restaurants around the Bradley Center were already struggling because of the crap the Bucks were serving on the court every night for 10-12 years. AGREE, but the new state-subsidized bars & restaurants in or at the new arena will kill all other competition completely

    Turner Hall across the street didn’t close up food service because of the food options at the Bradley Center (which are crap) but because nobody was coming to games and stopping in for pre-game dinner/drinks like they used to. AGREE, but a shiny new arena will NOT increase attendance or pre/post game meals & drinks - just shift them to Bucks-owned venues

    I’m still highly skeptical of where this goes as I think the main problem for the NBA in Milwaukee is the expense associated with going to a game, AGREE and not just in Milwaukee - I think the NBA will eventually collapse

    but if it doesn’t hurt the taxpayers I’d be OK with this. eh, I'm still opposed -- but I am far less opposed than I was yesterday.

  • Gov. Scott Walker expected to announce plan for support of new Milwaukee Bucks arena

    01/27/2015 8:33:51 AM PST · 6 of 34
    Sideshow Bob to Responsibility2nd
    Posted in Breaking News?

    This is old news. Been around for 4 days.

    ****

    Not quite. Walker's official press conference announcement ended 5 minutes ago. Can't get too much more breaking than that.

    There was a news leak from last Friday which contained incorrect info.

  • Gov. Scott Walker expected to announce plan for support of new Milwaukee Bucks arena

    01/27/2015 8:20:29 AM PST · 1 of 34
    Sideshow Bob
    OK, details of Walker's new Bucks arena funding plan are being revealed. It is less horrible than first feared. Walker's plan calls for:

    1. The State of Wisconsin to issue a $220 million revenue bond.
    2. The bond to require full and immediate repayment by the Bucks if they are sold before the retirement of the debt.
    3. The establishment a Jock Tax "base" of the current Jock Tax tax revenue from NBA players at $6.5 million.
    4. The state of Wisconsin to divert all "surplus" NBA Jock Tax monies in excess of $6.5 million annually to help retire the $220 million revenue bond.
    5. The Jock Tax surplus diversion will continue until bond debt is retired.

    I will acknowledge that Walker's plan is innovative. It also creates the illusion (but not the reality) that the NBA players are paying for the new arena.

    But I'm still opposed to any state funding for a new downtown Milwaukee arena.

    I don't like creating a false "surplus" (maybe if the $6.5 million base were indexed for inflation, I would have less of an issue).
    I don't like subsidizing billionaires.
    A new arena is not needed and will turn the Bradley Center into another unused arena facility.
    A new arena will not result in any new economic development other than construction.
    It will create economic losers among the local bar and restaurant owners currently near the Bradley Center.
    It will make the Bucks and their affiliated bar & restaurant owners in the new arena economic winners.
    Government should not be picking economic winners and losers.

  • Report: Scott Walker to Include Jock Tax in Budget

    01/27/2015 7:49:37 AM PST · 43 of 47
    Sideshow Bob to Sideshow Bob
    OK, details of Walker's new Bucks arena funding plan are being revealed. It is less horrible than first feared.

    Walker's plan calls for:

    1. The State of Wisconsin to issue a $220 million revenue bond.
    2. The bond to require full and immediate repayment by the Bucks if they are sold before the retirement of the debt.
    3. The establishment a Jock Tax "base" of the current tax revenue from NBA players at $6.5 million.
    4. The state of Wisconsin to divert all "surplus" NBA Jock Tax monies in excess of $6.5 million annually to help retire the $220 million revenue bond.
    5. The Jock Tax surplus diversion will continue until bond debt is retired.

    I will acknowledge that Walker's plan is innovative. It also creates the illusion (but not the reality) that the NBA players are paying for the new arena.

    But I'm still opposed to any state funding for a new downtown Milwaukee arena.

    I don't like creating a false "surplus" (maybe if the $6.5 million base were indexed for inflation, I would have less of an issue).
    I don't like subsidizing billionaires.
    A new arena is not needed and will turn the Bradley Center into another unused arena facility.
    A new arena will not result in any new economic development other than construction.
    It will create economic losers among the local bar and restaurant owners currently near the Bradley Center.
    It will make the Bucks and their affiliated bar & restaurant owners in the new arena economic winners.
    Government should not be picking economic winners and losers.

  • Report: Scott Walker to Include Jock Tax in Budget

    01/26/2015 12:36:30 PM PST · 42 of 47
    Sideshow Bob to GeronL
    You can’t just buy land and “convert” it to sovereign land.

    Actually, a Tribe can do so for purposes of gaming compacts. They first need to petition the federal Bureau of Indian Affairs. If BIA approves, the Tribe needs to also negotiate a gaming compact and gain the approval of that state's governor.

    In this instance, the Menomonee Tribe of Wisconsin submitted an application to BIA, negotiated an operating compact with the Seminole Tribe of Florida who own the exclusive Indian gaming rights to the use of the Hard Rock Café Casino name brand, gained approval of BIA for their application, lobbied local Kenosha leaders for their support of the proposal and negotiated a proposed gaming compact with the State. The only step remaining was Gov. Walker's approval.

  • Report: Scott Walker to Include Jock Tax in Budget

    01/26/2015 11:57:29 AM PST · 40 of 47
    Sideshow Bob to GeronL
    Hasn’t Walker already endorsed illegal immigration and bashed those who want conservatives to run against RINO leaders?

    Walker doesn’t even show up on my Presidential list.

    ****

    As I said above, Scott is a friend. He has NOT endorsed illegal immigration, but hasn't been as vigorous as I would prefer in combatting it. I don't believe he has bashed conservatives, but he hasn't been as vigorous as I would prefer in bashing RINO leaders.

    Until last Friday, part of me has wanted to be selfish in not sharing Gov. Walker and his job performance with the rest of the country. Beyond that, I actually would much prefer Ted Cruz to Walker for President in 2016. Walker is probably #2 on my list, but is in danger of falling precipitously on my presidential list if last Friday is any kind of sign of a more moderate Presidential campaign.

  • Report: Scott Walker to Include Jock Tax in Budget

    01/26/2015 11:42:25 AM PST · 39 of 47
    Sideshow Bob to DoodleDawg
    So I assume the player income tax went into the general fund? And now those revenues will go to the sports arena? So what gets cut in the mean time?

    No one knows yet. It will be interesting to see next week what Scott Walker proposes for cuts to balance out the reduction of state tax revenue that will instead be diverted to the arena construction.

  • Report: Scott Walker to Include Jock Tax in Budget

    01/26/2015 11:31:44 AM PST · 38 of 47
    Sideshow Bob to Responsibility2nd
    In 1993 San Antonio passed an increase in sales tax to pay for the Alamodome. $186 Million. When funding was complete, the tax was revoked. Did we ever get an NFL team? Nope. But it satisfied the Spurs enough to stay in San Antonio. and it has more than paid for itself in just Alamo Bowl benefits. 40 to 50 million dollars spent here in SA each time the Alamo Bowl is played.

    ****

    And that's great if that is what the local community wants. But I will note that San Antonio taxed for and built a new football facility that did not previously exist. The Bradley Center already exists. There is no "need" for a new arena. The other major tenants of the Bradley Center - Marquette University & the Milwaukee Admirals hockey - franchise are entirely happy with the facility.

    If government leaders and their constituent taxpayers Milwaukee County or the City of Milwaukee want to subsidize a new arena for NBA millionaires and billionaires, great. Go for it.

    But I didn't help elect a Republican state Assembly, state Senate and governor so that State of Wisconsin tax money is used to benefit liberal Democrat NBA players, NY-based liberal Democrat owners and liberal Democrat Milwaukee politicians.

  • Report: Scott Walker to Include Jock Tax in Budget

    01/26/2015 11:16:18 AM PST · 37 of 47
    Sideshow Bob to Buckeye McFrog
    Team will become the Seattle Bucks faster than you can say “John Galt”.

    ****

    And since I am not a Bucks customer or fan now, do not frequent bars and the restaurants nearby the Bradley Center now, etc. the impact of any future movement of the franchise would be minimal to me individually...if they actually move.

    I think the NBA's poor business model and shrinking domestic market will make other community's more fragile franchises more susceptible to being relocated.

  • Report: Scott Walker to Include Jock Tax in Budget

    01/26/2015 9:56:39 AM PST · 33 of 47
    Sideshow Bob to GeronL
    and if that Indian tribe wants a casino, they should build it on their sovereign land! or do they have any?

    The Menomonee Tribe does have sovereign land. They were willing to buy the more strategically located Kenosha site and convert it to sovereign land. The only loss to state and local government bodies would have been the site's removal from property tax rolls in exchange for healthy annual revenue payments.

  • Report: Scott Walker to Include Jock Tax in Budget

    01/26/2015 9:47:42 AM PST · 32 of 47
    Sideshow Bob to Yellowstone Joe
    I seem to be missing something here.

    Just me, but turning down a casino proposal and going for a tax that will make NBA players pay for their own stadium is a good thing.

    So why all the fuss?

    Isn’t it about time those millionaires who play the game pay?

    Instead of the common Joe on the street who already pay at the gate to watch those millionaire leftists play?

    And since when did Free-republic become full of conservatives who think casinos are good anyway.

    As I asked, “Am I missing something here?”

    ****

    Yes, you are missing something.

    The NBA players WILL NEVER pay for their own stadium. Either their patrons or taxpayers will pay for the stadiums.

    If you can't discern the difference between government subsidizing NBA millionaires' and billionaires' construction of a stadium that will not generate any new tax revenues VERSUS allowing private investors to pay entirely for the construction of a casino and entertainment venue which will generate new tax revenues, then maybe you are not as conservative as you think.

    The Menomonee Tribe was simply asking Gov. Walker for PERMISSION to build a casino, hotel and entertainment venue that does not currently exist in that area. They were offering to indemnify the State from competitor's potential legal claims, develop thousands of short-term construction jobs and long-term service jobs and PAY the State a favorable operation payment.

    The Bucks want the State to pay $100 million to replace an adequate facility and subsidize the creation of new Bucks-owned shops and restaurants that would compete with already existing adjacent shops and restaurants.

    As for whether FReepers think casinos are a good idea...

    Maybe you are more concerned with whether it is moral for a government to promote the expansion of gambling. That train has already left the station.

    Indian casino gambling already exists in Wisconsin. The state lottery already exists in Wisconsin. They cannot be reversed.

    I don't think the creation of a Kenosha casino would have generating any new gaming revenue from Wisconsin residents. However, the construction of a Kenosha casino would have drawn heavily from the nearby Illinois and Chicago population.

    I viewed the Kenosha casino as a huge opportunity to increase Wisconsin tourism. I'm less troubled by the "morality" of it. Besides, it would be huge payback for decades of Wisconsin residents' Illinois Tollway payments.

  • Report: Scott Walker to Include Jock Tax in Budget

    01/26/2015 9:14:35 AM PST · 23 of 47
    Sideshow Bob to ADSUM
    My understanding is that current revenues from NBA players will not change. Only the increased revenues will be applied to the new arena. With inflation this could be a significant contribution over the next 10 years.

    ****

    There are no increased revenues. It is a diversion of current tax revenues from the general fund.

    ****

    The alternative if the arena is not built and the Bucks leave town, then there would be no increase in revenues and probably a substantial decrease.

    ****

    Almost correct. If the NBA forces the Bucks to move in the future, there would be no NBA incomes to tax in Wisconsin the future.

    The new billionaire hedge fund NY-based owners of the Bucks are claiming an inability or preference to not pay for a new Milwaukee arena themselves. If the construction of a new Milwaukee arena is not in process by 2017, the NBA can choose to buy the Bucks from the current owners for $50 million more than their 2014 purchase price.

    It remains to be seen if some other city would be stupid enough to pay for a venue with the enhanced amenities desired by the NBA.

    There is nothing wrong with the Bradley Center. The building is in good condition. It remains one of the best facilities for viewing hockey in the entire country. It has adequate site lines for basketball. It has nice luxury boxes which the Bradley Center already has difficulty selling.

    The NBA wants to be provided with venues that have additional shopping and restaurant opportunities to generate greater income opportunities for their team owners.

    Why should taxpayers be forced to pay for posh, pimped-out palaces for NBA owners who have a poor economic model for generating income? If the NBA owners want to generate income for themselves, pay for the improvements themselves!!!

  • Report: Scott Walker to Include Jock Tax in Budget

    01/26/2015 8:48:52 AM PST · 18 of 47
    Sideshow Bob to rfreedom4u
    Here’s a radical idea: How about the Milwaukee Bucks build their own arena and the government simply stay out of it all together?

    Exactly!

    Or, let the Milwaukee Democrats who want a new arena to help fund it out of City of Milwaukee or Milwaukee County taxes.

    Or let Milwaukee Democrats propose it during legislative consideration of the budget or as a stand alone tax proposal.

  • Report: Scott Walker to Include Jock Tax in Budget

    01/26/2015 8:43:11 AM PST · 17 of 47
    Sideshow Bob to grania
    Stadiums should be funded by selling stock if no individuals or existing corporations want to take it on.

    Scott Walker's doing a big government thing here....not impressive. Why do politicians think just because they have money coming in that they have to spend it on something new?

    ****

    Exactly!

  • Report: Scott Walker to Include Jock Tax in Budget

    01/26/2015 8:40:46 AM PST · 14 of 47
    Sideshow Bob to Red Badger
    They wanna tax THAT now????????????.................

    No, the "Jock Tax" already exists. It exists in every state that has professional sports teams. For most professions, work that is performed on a long-term basis in another state is taxable in that state. For pro athletes, any work income that is generated in that state by both home and away athletes is taxed on a proportional basis.

    As an example, 50% of the work income generated by Milwaukee Bucks athletes (41 home games of an 82 game season) is subject to Wisconsin income taxation. Because the Bucks play 4 games in California - one each at the Sacramento Kings, Los Angeles Lakers, Los Angeles Clippers and Golden State Warriors, 4.88% (4 games of 82) of Milwaukee Bucks' athlete salaries are subject to California income taxation. This income taxation process is repeated in each state a pro athlete derives income.

    Walker's proposal is to divert these already existing NBA athlete income taxes from the Wisconsin state general fund to help pay for construction of a new downtown Milwaukee Bucks arena. The argument posed by tax supporters is that if a new arena is not built and the NBA compels the Bucks to move, the State of Wisconsin will not generate the Jock Tax for the state general fund in the future.

    btw, it is not known if Walker's proposed Jock Tax diversion also applies to the near-term work income generated by the minor league hockey teams and or major league indoor soccer teams that might play in the new arena. Those Milwaukee sports franchises like their current venues and have no need or benefit in a new arena.

  • Report: Scott Walker to Include Jock Tax in Budget

    01/26/2015 8:07:08 AM PST · 1 of 47
    Sideshow Bob
    This is the 2nd horrible decision from Scott Walker last Friday after earlier announcing that he was not going to approve a new Kenosha casino for the Menomonee Indian Tribe. While the Menomonee proposal carried the potential for future legal battles with the Potawatomi Tribe's Milwaukee-based casino due to an awful and corrupt gaming compact negotiated by former Demoncrat Gov. Jim Doyle, many Wisconsin critics viewed the timing of Walker's denial just prior to this past weekend's Iowa Freedom Summit as presidential politics bowing to Iowa anti-gambling zealots.

    I really like Scott Walker. He is a personal friend. But he really pooched things on Friday.

    I would have preferred that Walker had either approved the Kenosha casino or delayed his denial so that Bob Vander Plaats and other religious/political extremists couldn't use Walker's decision as a show of strength for Iowa 2016. It now paints Gov. Scott Walker - the man who stood up to and beat back powerful labor unions - as a man who is afraid to stand up to both Iowa zealots AND the corrupt Potawatomi Tribe.

    While many members of Walker's Wisconsin base are disappointed or even upset at Walker's Kenosha casino decision AND its timing, there will be ABSOLUTE HELL to pay if Gov. Walker includes a "Jock Tax" in his state budget next week. This move only serves the interests of liberal downtown Milwaukee Democrats and the uber-liberal NY-based billionaire owners of the Milwaukee Bucks.

    Any "Jock Tax" will immediately divert those tax monies away from their current use in the general fund. That diversion will require Walker to either cut spending or increase other taxes. Further, the concept of using state funds to subsidize NBA millionaires and billionaires is horrifying to most conservatives.

    Acquiescing to the NBA's contractually mandated threat to move the Bucks if a new arena is not built further runs contrary to Scott Walker's image as a strong leader. I am astonished that Walker would kowtow to the NBA's blackmail and include it in his biennial budget.

    Scott Walker is getting and listening to some really advice. And if this advice is coming because Walker is running for President in 2016, he better remember that he needs to do better in his day job as Governor of Wisconsin.

  • Sarah Palin appearance at Freedom Summit was a total crowd-pleaser: FULL SPEECH

    01/26/2015 7:00:17 AM PST · 56 of 67
    Sideshow Bob to alstewartfan
    I’m sick of the Homer Simpson stereotype.

    Me too.(/s)

  • Glenn Grothman a Sellout? Give Me A Break

    01/08/2015 12:34:46 PM PST · 71 of 71
    Sideshow Bob to 1010RD
    I understand your point, but disagree tactically.

    I've tried your approach of long game and working within the system. I've been the leader of local political units and have twice written the state GOP platform. The party elites paid lip service to my "leadership" and the high-minded ideals of my platform and nothing more.

    Defiance of the party apparatus (just short of armed revolt) and usurping control is the only path to success. Fight and fight loudly so that that the truth and integrity of your position enflames and wins the hearts and minds of the base.

    People forget that Howard Jarvis and Ronald Reagan were essentially ideological revolutionaries. Their righteous anger propelled conservatism to success in California and across the country. Similarly, anger at congressional excess propelled the Contract with America to success. Further, angry conservative street demonstrations are what stopped the judicial/electoral bureaucracy from stealing the 2000 Bush victory. Enflamed conservative passion fueled the Tea Party movement and led the GOP to 2010 & 2014 congressional victories.

    Playing within the rules, "compassionate" conservatism and other centrist dreck dulls the base, loses elections and perpetuates the GOPe power and control.

    Putting it simply, if your local party or governmental body meetings are not interrupted by or ending in fistfights, they are not worth squat.

    If someone starts screaming that the GOP shouldn't have circular firing squads, what that really means is that the GOPe wants their rivals to disarm.

    Eff them and fight the fight.

  • Glenn Grothman a Sellout? Give Me A Break

    01/08/2015 11:14:37 AM PST · 69 of 71
    Sideshow Bob to 1010RD
    3. Run for every open GOP seat and party position. There are some 300,000 FReepers. That’s more than enough to control the party apparatus in every state. Run, run and win.

    Better still, primary EVERY GOP officeholder.

  • Glenn Grothman a Sellout? Give Me A Break

    01/08/2015 10:46:13 AM PST · 67 of 71
    Sideshow Bob to 1010RD
    Let’s see what comes of it.

    What comes of it? Next to nothing, I'll wager.

    Even if Grothman is a budget hawk and inserts some innovative key language or provision during the committee process into a budget bill, will it survive markup with a committee chairman beholden to Boehner?

    Will it survive to a final version and floor vote in front of a GOP caucus beholden to Boehner?

    Will it survive a conference committee negotiation with conferees named by and beholden to Boehner and (worse yet) Mitch McConnell?

    If Grothman's innovative and bold budget language survives conferencing and is approved by both Houses, will it survive within a bill signed by President Obama? Or one that returns to both Houses for a 2/3 override vote?

    What does it matter? If the establishment knows that you are willing to negotiate a moderation of any one conservative position, they will attempt to compel moderation of ALL conservative positions.

  • Glenn Grothman a Sellout? Give Me A Break

    01/08/2015 10:09:58 AM PST · 65 of 71
    Sideshow Bob to 1010RD
    Which key committee?

    Grothman will be on House Budget, House Government Oversight, and House Education and Work Force committees.

  • Glenn Grothman a Sellout? Give Me A Break

    01/07/2015 11:09:13 AM PST · 49 of 71
    Sideshow Bob to Diana in Wisconsin
    I can’t find how Joni Ernst, Mia Love or Scott Brown voted. Looking like all of our Newbies voted FOR that putz!

    Joni Ernst is a US Senator. Scott Brown lost his Senate race in New Hampshire. But Mia Love - like most of the freshman House class - voted for Tan Man. A few freshman did vote against Boehner, but not many.

  • Glenn Grothman a Sellout? Give Me A Break

    01/07/2015 11:04:11 AM PST · 48 of 71
    Sideshow Bob to Tulane
    Just curious, was he elected to vote against Boehner? I hardly doubt that came up in the campaign.

    Actually, it was an issue during the August primary. Grothman (my state senator at the time) bested two other major candidates - conservative Duey Stroebel (my state representative at the time) and GOPe state senator Joe Leibham from Sheboygan with a 200 vote margin & 35% primary plurality.

    During the primary, Stroebel accused (presciently) Grothman of not being conservative enough. GOPe-leaning radio talker Charlie Sykes and Grothman called Stroebel's accusations as silly, miniscule and mean.

    “I would have no problem looking for an alternative to Speaker Boehner,” Grothman said in a candidate debate Aug. 1. “I have no problem standing up to Republican leadership.” (Quote from source article above)

    Please note that Grothman's comment came BEFORE Boehner pushed Cromnibus and failed to actively oppose Amnesty in November.

    Under no circumstances would Duey Stroebel have voted for Boehner as Speaker - before or after November.

    Gee, I guess Stroebel would have been a more conservative choice.

  • Glenn Grothman a Sellout? Give Me A Break

    01/07/2015 9:18:43 AM PST · 43 of 71
    Sideshow Bob to afraidfortherepublic
    My guess from here is the old adage, “If you are going to strike the king, you must kill the king.” If Glenn did not see that this effort was going to succeed (after all 25 votes out of 500+ is not a very good showing) he’d be smarter to work within the system.

    Nice straw man, btw. But there are only 435 voting House members (not 500+) and the number of votes required for election to Speaker is a simple majority of those actually voting less any member who votes present. Boehner was elected Speaker yesterday with around 200 votes - the fewest number of votes in the last 100 years.

    The final tally does not reflect the futility of striking the king, it reflects the extreme unprincipled cowardice of a small handful of alleged conservatives who could AND should have forced a second ballot.