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Posts by Spackidagoosh

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  • Protests Use of Photo in Controversy

    02/08/2006 3:09:43 PM PST · 45 of 57
    Spackidagoosh to Bloody Sam Roberts

    Very true

  • Protests Use of Photo in Controversy

    02/08/2006 3:05:05 PM PST · 41 of 57
    Spackidagoosh to Bloody Sam Roberts

    Well, its actually looks like a fake dog put on top of a mans body, then fake copy machine noise added to it with photoshop.

  • Protests Use of Photo in Controversy

    02/08/2006 2:56:20 PM PST · 36 of 57
    Spackidagoosh to Spackidagoosh

    Comment #29 Removed by Moderator


    hmmmm

  • Protests Use of Photo in Controversy

    02/08/2006 2:55:17 PM PST · 35 of 57
    Spackidagoosh to Spackidagoosh
    Here is the original pic from michelle malkins website.

    I opened the pic in photoshop to remove the noise. You can tell it was a fake because the dog is the same size as the man and the white of the dog is brighter than the other white objects in the room.
  • Protests Use of Photo in Controversy

    02/08/2006 2:50:05 PM PST · 32 of 57
    Spackidagoosh to Bloody Sam Roberts

    5,,4,,3,,2,,1 ???

  • DRUDGE: DEVELOPING: DEMOCRATS PLAN TO DESTROY ALITO

    01/06/2006 4:36:11 PM PST · 121 of 146
    Spackidagoosh to Callahan

    http://fundrace.org/

    Name, Occupation, Employer Contribution Address

    Stephen Dujack
    Editor Environmental Law Institute
    John Kerry
    $2,000
    5820 Doris Dr (map)
    Alexandria, VA 22311

  • Great tool for seeing websites from the past..

    12/06/2005 2:58:27 PM PST · 1 of 23
    Spackidagoosh
  • CIA videos reveal the missed chances to kill Bin Laden

    09/03/2005 9:00:02 PM PDT · 16 of 39
    Spackidagoosh to Spackidagoosh
  • CIA videos reveal the missed chances to kill Bin Laden

  • CIA videos reveal the missed chances to kill Bin Laden

    09/03/2005 8:51:35 PM PDT · 4 of 39
    Spackidagoosh to Valin

    The videos were shown on Fox News last year...If I remember correctly..

  • China charges U.S. monopolizes the Internet, seeks global control

    03/02/2005 10:57:36 AM PST · 8 of 83
    Spackidagoosh to Bikers4Bush

    Exactly. The american tax payer paid for it so we can do what we want with it.

  • China charges U.S. monopolizes the Internet, seeks global control

    03/02/2005 10:54:32 AM PST · 1 of 83
    Spackidagoosh
  • TERESA: WE'RE DOWN IN ARIZONA? WHO CARES?

    09/23/2004 1:39:55 PM PDT · 29 of 72
    Spackidagoosh to RS

    I think she was referring to one of her continental african states.

  • TERESA: WE'RE DOWN IN ARIZONA? WHO CARES?

    09/23/2004 1:23:02 PM PDT · 2 of 72
    Spackidagoosh to jjmnolte

    12 News Reporter: Most of the polls are tracking that Sen John Kerry as doing a better job on the economy. My question is, why hasn’t that transferred overall in the poll numbers?
    Teresa: It has, of course. Of course it has.

    Reporter: He’s still down.

    Teresa: He’s not. Did you see the polls today? You saw Zogby and ARG —

    Reporter: Yes, but he’s still down in Arizona.

    Teresa: Oh, who cares? You know, one state is not a whole state. In the whole United States, he is even, even, and in some of them one point ahead, and in some one point behind.


    Her "Oh, who cares" is just about the most priceless moment of this campaign. No matter what else happens this campaign, I have to thank the voters of Iowa for making sure we got to experience this absolutely perfect moment.

    (sigh) Why not tell the whole state to “shove it”, while you’re at it?

  • "We must prepare now"--Kerry Campaign email begs for soreloser recount donations

    09/23/2004 1:08:59 PM PDT · 4 of 39
    Spackidagoosh to sinkspur

    Took the Hugh Hewitt quote right out of my mouth...

  • Reporter question to Kerry at today's press conference. Evidence of a hate Bush media

    09/23/2004 11:25:01 AM PDT · 32 of 69
    Spackidagoosh to 1Old Pro
  • THE ANTI-WAR TURN IS A LOSER - Dick Morris

    09/23/2004 9:46:52 AM PDT · 1 of 17
    Spackidagoosh
  • Kerry speech from today.

    09/23/2004 9:08:44 AM PDT · 1 of 20
    Spackidagoosh
  • Media Bias Alert! (Houston Chron/Reuters)

    09/22/2004 3:47:19 PM PDT · 3 of 246
    Spackidagoosh to Macaw

    Big brother at corporate has my right click disabled. What is the file name?

  • McDermott Co-Sponsors Legislation to Reinstate the Draft (Democrats, not Republicans!)

    09/22/2004 3:39:33 PM PDT · 65 of 83
    Spackidagoosh to Flashman_at_the_charge

    BUSHDRAFT.COM WHOIS INFO...


    Registrant:
    Francis Collins
    74 Fernberg Road
    Paddington, Queensland 4064
    Australia

    Registered through: WebDomains4u.com
    Domain Name: BUSHDRAFT.COM
    Created on: 19-Nov-03
    Expires on: 19-Nov-04
    Last Updated on: 21-Nov-03

    Administrative Contact:
    Collins, Francis Snrfmaster@hotmail.com
    74 Fernberg Road
    Paddington, Queensland 4064
    Australia
    0733694570 Fax --
    Technical Contact:
    Collins, Francis Snrfmaster@hotmail.com
    74 Fernberg Road
    Paddington, Queensland 4064
    Australia
    0733694570 Fax --

    Domain servers in listed order:
    NS1.TOTALCHOICEHOSTING.COM
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    The previous information has been obtained either directly from the registrant or a registrar of the domain name other than Network Solutions. Network Solutions, therefore, does not guarantee its accuracy or completeness.

    Show underlying registry data for this record



    Current Registrar: WILD WEST DOMAINS, INC.
    IP Address: 63.247.85.218 (ARIN & RIPE IP search)
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    Record Type: Domain Name
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    Web Site Title: BushDraft.com Exposing the truth behind the Bush plan to bring back the draft
    Meta Description: Details the plan Bush has to reinstate the military draft by June 2005
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  • John Kerry's Multiple Violations of the UCMJ -- why wasn't he tried and sentenced?

    09/22/2004 3:07:01 PM PDT · 3 of 28
    Spackidagoosh to pabianice

    Thanks....Bookmarked.

  • Decorated Soldier Reportedly Attacked At Concert.

    09/22/2004 2:54:55 PM PDT · 1 of 63
    Spackidagoosh
  • McDermott Co-Sponsors Legislation to Reinstate the Draft (Democrats, not Republicans!)

    09/22/2004 2:10:05 PM PDT · 27 of 83
    Spackidagoosh to joesnuffy
    Congressman Rangel served in the U.S. Army in Korea from 1948 to 1952.
  • McDermott Co-Sponsors Legislation to Reinstate the Draft (Democrats, not Republicans!)

    09/22/2004 2:07:12 PM PDT · 21 of 83
    Spackidagoosh to pieces of time
    BROWN, CORRINE - D FL
  • McDermott Co-Sponsors Legislation to Reinstate the Draft (Democrats, not Republicans!)

    09/22/2004 2:05:48 PM PDT · 19 of 83
    Spackidagoosh to pollywog

    I sent it to him this morning after it was first on freerepublic. Around 12.

  • Jan. 2003: Democrats Criticize Rumsfeld Comments About Why There Will Be No Draft

    09/22/2004 1:54:16 PM PDT · 8 of 9
    Spackidagoosh to crushkerry

    If you didnt notice. That bill was a dems bill and not a gop bill.

  • Jan. 2003: Democrats Criticize Rumsfeld Comments About Why There Will Be No Draft

    09/22/2004 1:51:06 PM PDT · 3 of 9
    Spackidagoosh to crushkerry

    Universal National Service Act of 2003 (Introduced in House)

    H. R. 163
    To provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.

    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

    January 7, 2003
    Mr. RANGEL (for himself, Mr. MCDERMOTT, Mr. CONYERS, Mr. LEWIS of Georgia, Mr. STARK, and Mr. ABERCROMBIE) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Armed Services

  • Shock and Awe at Maureen Dowd's Book Party

    09/22/2004 1:47:37 PM PDT · 3 of 11
    Spackidagoosh to plato98

    He was probably dragged along by his wife Andrea Mitchell

  • The Kerry Tongue Flick - Complete with photos

    09/22/2004 11:43:55 AM PDT · 44 of 206
    Spackidagoosh to snappat

    Yup...Psychology 101. Especially when you lick your lip while looking down and to the left.

  • Int. Criminal Tribunal findings: George W. Bush guilty of war crimes(Is this Clown Court for real?)

    09/22/2004 11:23:05 AM PDT · 12 of 43
    Spackidagoosh to demlosers
    the use of radioactive depleted uranium weapons of mass destruction

    Doesnt depleted mean that it is no longer radioactive?
  • ARG: 50 States & DC Poll: Kery 270, Bush 253 (All states results posted)

    09/22/2004 11:09:39 AM PDT · 11 of 86
    Spackidagoosh to GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY

    These are the same people that had Schwarzenegger in CA having no chance to win last year.

  • Millions (of felons) blocked from voting in U.S. Election

    09/22/2004 10:52:12 AM PDT · 3 of 74
    Spackidagoosh to MIT-Elephant

    You know when you are banking on the felon vote you are in trouble.

  • YOU MUST SEE THIS KILL... You'll feel better afterwards!

  • FCC Fines CBS $550,000 for Jackson Super Bowl Show

    09/22/2004 9:47:22 AM PDT · 1 of 22
    Spackidagoosh
  • Millions Blocked from Voting in U.S. Election

    09/22/2004 9:32:13 AM PDT · 4 of 114
    Spackidagoosh to Hi Heels

    What about the disenfranchised voters in the Panhandle of Florida. Oh ya. They were white republicans. They dont count.

  • HR 163 (Draft bill?) (Vanity)

    09/22/2004 9:30:30 AM PDT · 11 of 37
    Spackidagoosh to Trampled by Lambs

    Universal National Service Act of 2003 (Introduced in House)

    HR 163 IH


    108th CONGRESS

    1st Session

    H. R. 163
    To provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.


    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

    January 7, 2003
    Mr. RANGEL (for himself, Mr. MCDERMOTT, Mr. CONYERS, Mr. LEWIS of Georgia, Mr. STARK, and Mr. ABERCROMBIE) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Armed Services







    A BILL
    To provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.


    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

    SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE; TABLE OF CONTENTS.

    (a) SHORT TITLE- This Act may be cited as the `Universal National Service Act of 2003'.

    (b) TABLE OF CONTENTS- The table of contents for this Act is as follows:

    Sec. 1. Short title; table of contents.

    Sec. 2. National service obligation.

    Sec. 3. Two-year period of national service.

    Sec. 4. Implementation by the President.

    Sec. 5. Induction.

    Sec. 6. Deferments and postponements.

    Sec. 7. Induction exemptions.

    Sec. 8. Conscientious objection.

    Sec. 9. Discharge following national service.

    Sec. 10. Registration of females under the Military Selective Service Act.

    Sec. 11. Relation of Act to registration and induction authority of Military Selective Service Act.

    Sec. 12. Definitions.

    SEC. 2. NATIONAL SERVICE OBLIGATION.

    (a) OBLIGATION FOR YOUNG PERSONS- It is the obligation of every citizen of the United States, and every other person residing in the United States, who is between the ages of 18 and 26 to perform a period of national service as prescribed in this Act unless exempted under the provisions of this Act.

    (b) FORM OF NATIONAL SERVICE- National service under this Act shall be performed either--

    (1) as a member of an active or reverse component of the uniformed services; or

    (2) in a civilian capacity that, as determined by the President, promotes the national defense, including national or community service and homeland security.

    (c) INDUCTION REQUIREMENTS- The President shall provide for the induction of persons covered by subsection (a) to perform national service under this Act.

    (d) SELECTION FOR MILITARY SERVICE- Based upon the needs of the uniformed services, the President shall--

    (1) determine the number of persons covered by subsection (a) whose service is to be performed as a member of an active or reverse component of the uniformed services; and

    (2) select the individuals among those persons who are to be inducted for military service under this Act.

    (e) CIVILIAN SERVICE- Persons covered by subsection (a) who are not selected for military service under subsection (d) shall perform their national service obligation under this Act in a civilian capacity pursuant to subsection (b)(2).

    SEC. 3. TWO-YEAR PERIOD OF NATIONAL SERVICE.

    (a) GENERAL RULE- Except as otherwise provided in this section, the period of national service performed by a person under this Act shall be two years.

    (b) GROUNDS FOR EXTENSION- At the discretion of the President, the period of military service for a member of the uniformed services under this Act may be extended--

    (1) with the consent of the member, for the purpose of furnishing hospitalization, medical, or surgical care for injury or illness incurred in line of duty; or

    (2) for the purpose of requiring the member to compensate for any time lost to training for any cause.

    (c) EARLY TERMINATION- The period of national service for a person under this Act shall be terminated before the end of such period under the following circumstances:

    (1) The voluntary enlistment and active service of the person in an active or reverse component of the uniformed services for a period of at least two years, in which case the period of basic military training and education actually served by the person shall be counted toward the term of enlistment.

    (2) The admission and service of the person as a cadet or midshipman at the United States Military Academy, the United States Naval Academy, the United States Air Force Academy, the Coast Guard Academy, or the United States Merchant Marine Academy.

    (3) The enrollment and service of the person in an officer candidate program, if the person has signed an agreement to accept a Reserve commission in the appropriate service with an obligation to serve
    on active duty if such a commission is offered upon completion of the program.


    (4) Such other grounds as the President may establish.

    SEC. 4. IMPLEMENTATION BY THE PRESIDENT.

    (a) IN GENERAL- The President shall prescribe such regulations as are necessary to carry out this Act.

    (b) MATTER TO BE COVERED BY REGULATIONS- Such regulations shall include specification of the following:

    (1) The types of civilian service that may be performed for a person's national service obligation under this Act.

    (2) Standards for satisfactory performance of civilian service and of penalties for failure to perform civilian service satisfactorily.

    (3) The manner in which persons shall be selected for induction under this Act, including the manner in which those selected will be notified of such selection.

    (4) All other administrative matters in connection with the induction of persons under this Act and the registration, examination, and classification of such persons.

    (5) A means to determine questions or claims with respect to inclusion for, or exemption or deferment from induction under this Act, including questions of conscientious objection.

    (6) Standards for compensation and benefits for persons performing their national service obligation under this Act through civilian service.

    (7) Such other matters as the President determines necessary to carry out this Act.

    (c) USE OF PRIOR ACT- To the extent determined appropriate by the President, the President may use for purposes of this Act the procedures provided in the Military Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. App. 451 et seq.), including procedures for registration, selection, and induction.

    SEC. 5. INDUCTION.

    (a) IN GENERAL- Every person subject to induction for national service under this Act, except those whose training is deferred or postponed in accordance with this Act, shall be called and inducted by the President for such service at the time and place specified by the President.

    (b) AGE LIMITS- A person may be inducted under this Act only if the person has attained the age of 18 and has not attained the age of 26.

    (c) VOLUNTARY INDUCTION- A person subject to induction under this Act may volunteer for induction at a time other than the time at which the person is otherwise called for induction.

    (d) EXAMINATION; CLASSIFICATION- Every person subject to induction under this Act shall, before induction, be physically and mentally examined and shall be classified as to fitness to perform national service. The President may apply different classification standards for fitness for military service and fitness for civilian service.

    SEC. 6. DEFERMENTS AND POSTPONEMENTS.

    (a) HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS- A person who is pursuing a standard course of study, on a full-time basis, in a secondary school or similar institution of learning shall be entitled to have induction under this Act postponed until the person--

    (1) obtains a high school diploma;

    (2) ceases to pursue satisfactorily such course of study; or

    (3) attains the age of 20.

    (b) HARDSHIP AND DISABILITY- Deferments from national service under this Act may be made for--

    (1) extreme hardship; or

    (2) physical or mental disability.

    (c) TRAINING CAPACITY- The President may postpone or suspend the induction of persons for military service under this Act as necessary to limit the number of persons receiving basic military training and education to the maximum number that can be adequately trained.

    (d) TERMINATION- No deferment or postponement of induction under this Act shall continue after the cause of such deferment or postponement ceases.

    SEC. 7. INDUCTION EXEMPTIONS.

    (a) QUALIFICATIONS- No person may be inducted for military service under this Act unless the person is acceptable to the Secretary concerned for training and meets the same health and physical qualifications applicable under section 505 of title 10, United States Code, to persons seeking original enlistment in a regular component of the Armed Forces.

    (b) OTHER MILITARY SERVICE- No person shall be liable for induction under this Act who--

    (1) is serving, or has served honorably for at least six months, in any component of the uniformed services on active duty; or

    (2) is or becomes a cadet or midshipman at the United States Military Academy, the United States Naval Academy, the United States Air Force Academy, the Coast Guard Academy, the United States
    Merchant Marine Academy, a midshipman of a Navy accredited State maritime academy, a member of the Senior Reserve Officers' Training Corps, or the naval aviation college program, so long as that person satisfactorily continues in and completes two years training therein.


    SEC. 8. CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTION.

    (a) CLAIMS AS CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTOR- Any person selected under this Act for induction into the uniformed services who claims, because of religious training and belief (as defined in section 6(j) of the Military Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. 456(j))), exemption from combatant training included as part of that military service and whose claim is sustained under such procedures as the President may prescribe, shall, when inducted, participate in military service that does not include any combatant training component.

    (b) TRANSFER TO CIVILIAN SERVICE- Any such person whose claim is sustained may, at the discretion of the President, be transferred to a national service program for performance of such person's national service obligation under this Act.

    SEC. 9. DISCHARGE FOLLOWING NATIONAL SERVICE.

    (a) DISCHARGE- Upon completion or termination of the obligation to perform national service under this Act, a person shall be discharged from the uniformed services or from civilian service, as the case may be, and shall not be subject to any further service under this Act.

    (b) COORDINATION WITH OTHER AUTHORITIES- Nothing in this section shall limit or prohibit the call to active service in the uniformed services of any person who is a member of a regular or reserve component of the uniformed services.

    SEC. 10. REGISTRATION OF FEMALES UNDER THE MILITARY SELECTIVE SERVICE ACT.

    (a) REGISTRATION REQUIRED- Section 3(a) of the Military Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. 453(a)) is amended--

    (1) by striking `male' both places it appears;

    (2) by inserting `or herself' after `himself'; and

    (3) by striking `he' and inserting `the person'.

    (b) CONFORMING AMENDMENT- Section 16(a) of the Military Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. App. 466(a)) is amended by striking `men' and inserting `persons'.

    SEC. 11. RELATION OF ACT TO REGISTRATION AND INDUCTION AUTHORITY OF MILITARY SELECTIVE SERVICE ACT.

    (a) REGISTRATION- Section 4 of the Military Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. App. 454) is amended by inserting after subsection (g) the following new subsection:

    `(h) This section does not apply with respect to the induction of persons into the Armed Forces pursuant to the Universal National Service Act of 2003.'.

    (b) INDUCTION- Section 17(c) of the Military Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. App. 467(c)) is amended by striking `now or hereafter' and all that follows through the period at the end and inserting `inducted pursuant to the Universal National Service Act of 2003.'.

    SEC. 12. DEFINITIONS.

    In this Act:

    (1) The term `military service' means service performed as a member of an active or reverse component of the uniformed services.

    (2) The term `Secretary concerned' means the Secretary of Defense with respect to the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corps, the Secretary of Homeland Security with respect to the Coast Guard, the Secretary of Commerce, with respect to matters concerning the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and the Secretary of Health and Human Services, with respect to matters concerning the Public Health Service.

    (3) The term `United States', when used in a geographical sense, means the several States, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, and Guam.

    (4) The term `uniformed services' means the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard, commissioned corps of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and commissioned corps of the Public Health Service.

  • SPIKE LEE, DANNY GLOVER BLACK LISTED REV. PETERSON ANNOUNCES CAMPAIGN TO EXPOSE LEFTIST BLACK ENTER.

    09/22/2004 9:04:31 AM PDT · 6 of 36
    Spackidagoosh to areafiftyone
  • Anti-homeschooling bigots strike again - Michelle Malkin

    09/22/2004 6:50:12 AM PDT · 1 of 19
    Spackidagoosh
  • After Action Report Kerry FReep Jacksonville, FL 9-21-04

    09/21/2004 6:00:25 PM PDT · 6 of 134
    Spackidagoosh to Chieftain
  • POLL to FREEP- Do you agree with Kofi?

    09/21/2004 4:34:13 PM PDT · 5 of 24
    Spackidagoosh to Rakkasan1


    Do you agree with Kofi Annan that the invasion of Iraq was illegal?


    Yes
    38% 5588 votes

    No
    62% 9188 votes


    Total Votes: 14,776

  • News

    09/21/2004 4:23:37 PM PDT · 2 of 14
    Spackidagoosh to outlaw1_2003
  • FAHRENHYPE 9/11 DOCUMENTARY COMING SOON

    09/21/2004 4:12:04 PM PDT · 3 of 8
    Spackidagoosh to tdadams



    The site did not list any details... The video has dems and republicans speaking out against the propaganda.

  • FAHRENHYPE 9/11 DOCUMENTARY COMING SOON

    09/21/2004 4:06:27 PM PDT · 1 of 8
    Spackidagoosh
  • Video: A group of veterans protest Kerry’s visit to Jacksonville

    09/21/2004 3:39:40 PM PDT · 1 of 4
    Spackidagoosh
  • The Pajama Man is back, Klein vs. Powerline's Rocketman on CNBC's Capital Report

    09/21/2004 2:25:07 PM PDT · 2 of 4
    Spackidagoosh to joefish69

    September 21, 2004
    Bologna meets the grinder

    We have obtained a transcript of Rocket Man's appearance last night on CNBC's Capital Report with co-host Gloria Borger and guest Jonathan ("Bologna") Klein. We thought you might enjoy it. Here follows the transcript:

    GLORIA BORGER, co-host:

    The first questions raised about the CBS National Guard memo story were raised by bloggers and not by traditional media outlets. Have these Internet logs changed the media forever? Joining me now is John Hinderaker of the blog powerline.com [Ed.: Can't she even get our URL right?] and Jon Klein, a former executive vice president for CBS News, now CEO of the FeedRoom, a broadband video company.

    Thanks to both of you for being here with us. John Hinderaker, as a member of the mainstream media, I have to ask you what happened on your Web site, Powerline, that you picked up on the Dan Rather "60 Minutes" report so quickly?

    Mr. JOHN HINDERAKER (Powerline.com Co-founder): Well, here's how it happened. I would say this is not really a big exception to the way that we and other blogs operate all the time. I think that this story illustrates the medium, the Internet, at its best, but the same kind of thing has happened many times.

    It started on the morning of September 9th. We're a group blog; there are three of us who do Powerline. My partner, Scott Johnson, got up early in the morning, and one of the first things he did was to check all the e-mails that readers had sent to us overnight looking for something interesting to follow up on. And one of those e-mails quoted from and linked to a post which somebody called BuckHead had done on a message thread at the Free Republic site, which is basically a message board.

    BORGER: It's a very conservative site, we should say.

    Mr. HINDERAKER: It's a conservative site, yeah...

    BORGER: Yes.

    Mr. HINDERAKER: ...basically a message board. And Scott thought it was interesting because this guy had looked at these documents which had just become available online, and he made some very good points about the font and the appearance and so on of the documents, said, 'I think they're forgeries.' Scott was intrigued by that, so he put up a quote and a link to the original post on Free Republic, and he said, 'Hey, anybody else out there among our readers have any information about this?' Well, that opened the floodgates. Over the ensuing hours, we received hundreds...

    BORGER: Right.

    Mr. HINDERAKER: ...and hundreds and hundreds of e-mails from readers...


    BORGER: Right.

    Mr. HINDERAKER: ...not all of them valuable, but many of them from people who had a remarkable knowledge of military protocol of the early 1970s, type fonts and typewriters and so on...

    BORGER: OK.

    Mr. HINDERAKER: ...and other subject that were relevant.

    BORGER: Well, and the rest is obviously history. Now, Jon Klein, let me ask you--it turns out that this blogger BuckHead is Harry McDougald, who is a very conservative lawyer from Atlanta. Who holds the bloggers responsible here in this battle to control the media?

    Mr. JON KLEIN (Former CBS News Executive Vice President): Well, to hear them tell it, they hold themselves responsible. And, you know, that's fine as far as it goes; it's just not any kind of a third-party or any kind of a reliable check or balance against them. They are, you know, journals of opinion. And if they're taken that way, they can be useful. But we can't confuse the opinion of a guy shooting off an e-mail from BuckHead, Georgia, as fact.

    Mr. HINDERAKER: I don't understand that, Jonathan. Are you saying that Republicans somehow don't have standing to point out forgeries?

    Mr. KLEIN: It's not standing. It's just: What do we make of it? You know, it's somebody's opinion until it's proven.

    Mr. HINDERAKER: Let's talk about checks and balances because I think the fundamental point that needs to be made is that there are so many more checks and balances that operate in the blogosphere if you compare it to, say, CBS News.

    Mr. KLEIN: Like--such as what?

    BORGER: How can you say that? How can you say that?

    Mr. HINDERAKER: I can say th--well, listen to me. If we make a mistake on Powerline, we will, in a matter of minutes, be barraged with e-mails from our readers pointing out the mistake. And other bloggers will point out the mistake.

    BORGER: Well, Jon Klein, don't you get that at CBS News, when you were at CBS, if you made a mistake?

    Mr. KLEIN: There are probably six or seven different layers that I can count of, in terms of checks and balances, at least that "60 Minutes," which I used to oversee. I'm not there anymore, and I don't know, you know, what went on behind the curtain lately. But, you know, there are an awful lot of checks and balances in place there, too.

    Mr. HINDERAKER: Well, those six or seven levels of checks and balances, number one, obviously didn't work in this case.

    Mr. KLEIN: No question.

    Mr. HINDERAKER: Number two, those tend to be people who are all peas out of the same pod, people with the same perspective, the same interest, the same ideology.

    BORGER: Well, Jon Klein, let me ask you this. As Michael Isikoff was saying before, the one question that remains unanswered here is: Who passed these documents to CBS--or to Bill Burkett, who passed it on to CBS?

    Mr. KLEIN: Right. Right. That's the big, juicy question.

    BORGER: The big, juicy question. Is this something that the Internet can get to the bottom of, or does CBS have to do it?

    Mr. KLEIN: I think it's fair game for anybody. It's a loose ball, and let's see who can get after it and come up with the facts. But this whole discussion needs to be about facts, and blogs, unfortunately, are all about opinion.

    Mr. HINDERAKER: Jonathan, that is where you are exactly wrong.

    Mr. KLEIN: I'm a blogger. I have a blog, and it's my opinions about certain things in the world. Your blog is about certain opinions that you have.

    Mr. HINDERAKER: Jonathan, then you'd better start reading Powerline because we link to our sources, we cite facts.

    BORGER: OK.

    Mr. HINDERAKER: On September 9th, we quoted from readers going back and forth arguing between themselves on some of these very obscure issues of kerning and so on, presenting both sides.

    BORGER: OK.

    Mr. KLEIN: Yeah, I'm sure do you.

    BORGER: And, John Hinderaker, we'll read Powerline if you can get to the bottom of who supplied Bill Burkett with these documents.

    Mr. HINDERAKER: Well, let me tell you that there is another mystery that I think is more of a mystery than that, and that is: Was Mr. Burkett...

    BORGER: OK.

    Mr. HINDERAKER: ...the last person to have these documents before they went to CBS?

    BORGER: OK. Well, we're going to have to leave it there. Maybe you can get to the bottom that one, too. John Hinderaker and Jon Klein, thanks so much for being with us.

    Mr. KLEIN: Thank you.

    Mr. HINDERAKER: Thank you very much.

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