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Posts by Stone Mountain

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  • Guy rushes to buy fire extinguisher after apartment catches fire

    03/09/2007 4:08:16 PM PST · 13 of 19
    Stone Mountain to aomagrat

    LOL - yup, ACME always delivers fast! : )

  • "Ban Ann Coulter": Free speech for me but not for thee?

    03/09/2007 4:00:35 PM PST · 53 of 77
    Stone Mountain to MissouriConservative
    They demand censorship of her. In the case of the Dixie Chicks, I decided simply to not listen to their music or purchase their albums or listen to the stations that played their music. That is my response to their objectionable comments on foreign soil. I did not decry their right to continue singing nor did I want them banned from the airwaves.

    You personally may not have, but a whole bunch of people here did. Clear Channel eventually decided to quit playing them because of the number of complaints they received. That's not censorship. If the government took her off the air, that would be censorship. Giving your readers/listeners what they want is merely good business practice.

    But they don't want that, they want all newspapers to stop carrying her column. That is what I have a problem with.

    That may be a philosophical difference you have with people who would take the time to ask their newspapers not to carry columns they don't like. But once again, it's not censorship. Consumers have a right to complain about products they buy. Media owners can decide whether or not they want to listen and heed those complaints. As long as the government isn't involved, it's not censorship.
  • Gingrich had affair during Clinton probe

    03/09/2007 3:39:53 PM PST · 126 of 129
    Stone Mountain to jwparkerjr
    There was never an ounce of remorse expressed by Clinton.

    I don't want to be the one to defend Clinton here, but this just isn't true. You may not have believed him, but he did express remorse.

    http://www.australianpolitics.com/usa/clinton/impeachment/apology.shtml

    What I want the American people to know, what I want the Congress to know is that I am profoundly sorry for all I have done wrong in words and deeds. I never should have misled the country, the Congress, my friends or my family. Quite simply, I gave into my shame. I have been condemned by my accusers with harsh words. And while it's hard to hear yourself called deceitful and manipulative, I remember Ben Franklin's admonition that our critics are our friends, for they do show us our faults. Mere words cannot fully express the profound remorse I feel for what our country is going through, and for what members of both parties in Congress are now forced to deal with. [...]

    My point was that in the original post, the poster said that other biblical leaders had great moral failings and were still great leaders with respect to Gingrich. I was just pointing out that the same criterion would also apply to Clinton.

    And, oh yes, by the way he also had an affair, just like Newt did. But Clinton did it in the Oval Office and with an intern who worked for him.

    And Gingrich did it with a woman who was married to someone else. And he also did it with a member of his Congressional staff. I don't see Gingrich grabbing the moral high ground here.

  • "Ban Ann Coulter": Free speech for me but not for thee?

    03/09/2007 3:24:35 PM PST · 50 of 77
    Stone Mountain to kempo
    Even here on FR there are many who do not under stand that political correctness has stopped people from saying what they really believe for fear of losing their means to make a living.

    This may be true, but it's still not a Freedom of Speech issue (as in US government). People are allowed to say anything politically incorrect they want. Employers are allowed to fire employees for not espousing the views they wish. That's the way the market works. If there are enough people out there who care about politically correct speech, and if newspapers or TV broadcasters want to pander to them, that's their right. If they want to print the politically incorrect view and risk alienating their reader/viewership, that's their right, too. Ann Coulter has no free speech issue here. She made a statement that was within her rights. Some of her employers didn't like what she said and dropped her. That's the market at work, not a Free Speech issue.
  • "Ban Ann Coulter": Free speech for me but not for thee?

    03/09/2007 3:18:42 PM PST · 48 of 77
    Stone Mountain to Sam Hill
    Freedom of speech is the concept of the inherent human right to voice one's opinion publicly without fear of censorship or punishment.

    Well, if you look at it like that, sure. I was referring to Freedom of Speech as defined by American law, not the overall concept. Which means that it's the the concept of the inherent human right to voice one's opinion publicly without fear of censorship or punishment from the government. Any other punishment - losing her job, losing her credibiliy, whatever, has nothing to do with the government. And therefore, as far as I'm concerned, has nothing to do with Free Speech. Again, I am looking at it from a legal point of view - otherwise, you could just as easily say that the Dixie Chicks were denied Free Speech rights by Clear Channel.

    And of course her joke has been proved highly accurate by the response it has gotten -- from boneheads like you.

    Nice insult. When all else fails, resort to ad hominem, huh? It's a shame you can't debate in a civilized manner, but hey, there you are. If JR decides to ban you from the forum (I didn't complain, btw) for inappropriate posting, it wouldn't be a Free Speech issue either. Maybe you can point to the response that I gave that makes her joke "proved highly accurate." How about it? Hint: She can say what she likes. People can choose to hire her if they like. The government isn't enforcing political correctness - so again, it's not a Free Speech issue.
  • Gingrich had affair during Clinton probe

    03/09/2007 2:17:17 PM PST · 123 of 129
    Stone Mountain to weegee
    Should be end MLK Day as a national holiday since he was an adulterer?

    No. My only point in responding to that last post is that you can't say that moral failings only count for Clinton, but not for Gingrich...
  • "Ban Ann Coulter": Free speech for me but not for thee?

    03/09/2007 2:11:05 PM PST · 40 of 77
    Stone Mountain to TC Rider

    I know - I was trying to respond in South Park fashion! (Sheila Broslofski)

  • "Ban Ann Coulter": Free speech for me but not for thee?

    03/09/2007 2:05:39 PM PST · 35 of 77
    Stone Mountain to dsc
    It can very quickly become one, with the media grooming the public to sit still for laws that ban speech that the left doesn't like.

    If those laws come up, then it's a Free Speech issue. If the media expresses an opinion about something, it may be repugnant, but again, it's not a Free Speech issue. This Ann Coulter flap has absolutley nothing to do with Free Speech.
  • "Ban Ann Coulter": Free speech for me but not for thee?

    03/09/2007 1:43:16 PM PST · 33 of 77
    Stone Mountain to dsc

    That may be a problem, but it's still not a Free Speech issue.

  • Americans get an 'F' in religion

    03/09/2007 1:40:53 PM PST · 32 of 46
    Stone Mountain to Sopater
    This too is true. However the idea that there is a significant number of fundamentalist Christians who actually believe that everything in the Bible is to be taken literally is just as absurd. ;-)

    Actually, I do believe there are a fair amount of bible literalists out there - even on this site, for that matter. But I agree with you - most Christians don't believe in a literal reading of the events in the bible. Which is another reason why I don't think it's a big deal if the stories in the bible are taught as myth as opposed to calling them fact.
  • "Ban Ann Coulter": Free speech for me but not for thee?

    03/09/2007 1:11:08 PM PST · 14 of 77
    Stone Mountain to TC Rider

    Whatwhatwhat? : )

  • Americans get an 'F' in religion

    03/09/2007 1:10:33 PM PST · 29 of 46
    Stone Mountain to Sopater
    The idea that somehow science and religion are at odds is absurd.

    This is true. However, the idea that science is at odds with a literal reading of the bible is clearly not absurd.
  • "Ban Ann Coulter": Free speech for me but not for thee?

    03/09/2007 1:07:18 PM PST · 11 of 77
    Stone Mountain to SmithL

    This has nothing to do with Free Speech. Coulter isn't being prosecuted by the government. She has the right to say what she wants, and others have the right to complain, boycott, or whatever. It wasn't a Free Speech issue when Freepers boycotted the Dixie Chicks, and it isn't a Free Speech issue now.

  • Gingrich had affair during Clinton probe

    03/09/2007 1:04:04 PM PST · 115 of 129
    Stone Mountain to KsSunflower
    My issue with Clinton...and by the way...my Democratic dad's isue...was that as the chief law enforcement officer of our country he should face whatever charges went with lying under oath.

    I agree with this. But you just said that those bibical characters were heroes, though flawed human beings.David: Adulterer and Murderer Peter: Lied three times, after pledging his undying devotion the previous day. Moses: Murderer. So Clinton's flaw was lying under oath - that certainly doesn't rise to the level of being a murderer. You said, "If you think that because Newt had a moral failing that he is unfit to lead...you better take another look at the Bible." How does that not apply to Clinton as well?

    I personally don't think Clinton or Gingrich have any business running for office after what they have shown themselves capable of.

  • Americans get an 'F' in religion

    03/09/2007 12:55:10 PM PST · 27 of 46
    Stone Mountain to Sopater
    Only that the God of the Bible is a myth since the things that it says that He did is a myth. Right?

    I'm not sure I understand the distinction. God can certainly be responsible for biblical myths that teach us something, right?

    There are many reasons to believe that the Christian flood story is less mythical than any other religious flood story.

    Guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that one. There are numerous scientific problems that don't get resolved if you believe the entire earth was flooded with water. If you are saying that science doesn't matter because it was a miracle, then we're back to the Christian flood story being basically like any other religious flood story. If you believe that everything in the bible is literally true, and that there are no myths in there, that's another thing we would have to agree to disagree on. I don't believe that, nor do I believe such should be taught in public schools.
  • Gingrich had affair during Clinton probe

    03/09/2007 11:46:25 AM PST · 111 of 129
    Stone Mountain to Luis Gonzalez
    And lest we forget, according to Gingrich, oral sex doesn't count. In .Vanity Fair (September 1995), they mentioned Anne Manning, who had an affair in Washington in 1977 with a married Gingrich.

    "We had oral sex," Manning revealed. "He prefers that modus operandi because then he can say, 'I never slept with her.'" She added that Gingrich threatened her: "If you ever tell anybody about this, I'll say you're lying."

    BTW, Gingrich has since refused to comment on Manning's charges...

  • Americans get an 'F' in religion

    03/09/2007 11:37:53 AM PST · 25 of 46
    Stone Mountain to Sopater
    I said that teaching it as myth is no better.

    I think that for a lot of stories, you have to make the choice. Was there a flood a few thousand years ago that killed off almost everyone? Did Moses actually part the Red Sea or see a burning bush that didn't extinguish itself? Sorry, I think most people view those as myth. Are they part of a larger structure that may impart larger lessons? Possibly, and that should be explored. But again, the bible shouldn't be used as a textbook - it's a book of old stories that many people consider to be relevent to themselves today. If you are going to teach the bible as literature, one of things you do is to look at myths from other religions and cultures and see how they compare to myths in Christianity. For instance, most cultures have a "great flood that destroyed the world" myth that are similar to eachother. Is that proof that there was a flood that destroyed the world? No - most early civilizations lived near water, and pretty much any large body of water will have a large flood at some point. One has to acknowledge that there is no reason to believe that the Christian flood story is any less mythical as any other religious flood story, if one wants to be even-handed in teaching a subject like this. So, yes, I do believe that treating biblical stories as myth is better than teaching them as fact. This doesn't mean that the teacher has to say that God is a myth, or that Christianity is wrong. But he should treat the text like he would any other non-Christian religious text in terms of truth value.
  • Americans get an 'F' in religion

    03/09/2007 10:51:09 AM PST · 18 of 46
    Stone Mountain to Sopater
    Correct, but it's no better to teach it as myth than it is to teach it as fact.

    I disagree. Treating any religious text as fact is ridiculous in (non-religious) schools. Most Christians don't even believe in a completely literal translation of the bible and that everything in it is fact. Stories evolve, translations alter and memories fade. The bible should be treated as a book that is greatly significant to a large percentage of the population and important because of that. But not as a textbook that states facts.
  • Americans get an 'F' in religion

    03/09/2007 10:31:49 AM PST · 12 of 46
    Stone Mountain to Sopater
    This would be a good start, but in teaching the Bible as literature, I'm sure the school systems will also teach it as myth.

    You would rather the school system teach a particular version of religion as fact?
  • Gingrich had affair during Clinton probe

    03/09/2007 8:53:41 AM PST · 97 of 129
    Stone Mountain to KsSunflower
    You know...all of the judgemental attitudes are hypocritical. Let's look at Bible heroes and I do mean that they were heroes, though flawed human beings. David: Adulterer and Murderer Peter: Lied three times, after pledging his undying devotion the previous day. Moses: Murderer I could go on...but these men were not just Biblical heroes, they were LEADERS, annointed by God. If you think that because Newt had a moral failing that he is unfit to lead...you better take another look at the Bible.

    Were you saying the same thing during the Clinton impeachment?
  • Gingrich had affair during Clinton probe

    03/09/2007 8:47:49 AM PST · 96 of 129
    Stone Mountain to Luis Gonzalez
    Gingrich argued in the interview, however, that he should not be viewed as a hypocrite for pursuing Clinton's infidelity.

    LOL!
  • Half-Ton Man Ventures Out After Five Years

    03/08/2007 4:24:52 PM PST · 116 of 145
    Stone Mountain to synbad600
    To allow ourselves to get to the point that others are championed for overcoming their own addictions, well, that to me is difficult to comprehend.

    I couldn't disagree more. Many people, for whatever reasons, (childhood upbringing, genetics, traumatic events, for example) are more susceptible to addictions than other people. And everyone has weaknesses in their lives that they must overcome. I think it's completely laudable for people to overcome those weaknesses. It's certainly something we should encourage, as opposed to mocking those with problems, particularly when the person in question is doing everything he can to overcome them.

    Where are the kudos to those that don't get to the point where they are celebrated for living a life of free of . . . whatever.


    They should be applauded too. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
  • Half-Ton Man Ventures Out After Five Years

    03/08/2007 4:07:08 PM PST · 108 of 145
    Stone Mountain to fr_freak
    If someone is going to show such deep lack of respect for himself, he should not expect too much respect from others.

    For whatever reasons, the guy was morbidly obese. Maybe he made mistakes and was lazy in the past; maybe it's glandular; maybe it's a combination. But he has made the effort to improve himself. He took responsibility solely upon himself to make things better. He's lost 400 pounds and was able to go outside. I respect the effort that took - anyone who has tried to lose even 10-20 pounds ought to. For this, he should be exposed to ridicule?

    90% of the people here making fun of the fat people would probably bend over backwards to help those fat people out if they met them in person.

    You are much more optimistic than I am. It's clear that a lot of people on this forum don't respect fat people at all. I find it hard to believe that they would go out of their way to help them instead of mocking them.
  • Schiavo's Brother Faults Media

    03/08/2007 3:38:59 PM PST · 87 of 170
    Stone Mountain to T'wit
    I just reported you for abuse.

    What did he do that was wrong?
  • Half-Ton Man Ventures Out After Five Years

    03/08/2007 3:27:14 PM PST · 101 of 145
    Stone Mountain to HungarianGypsy
    We should be wishing him well. He has a problem. He's doing something about it. Instead most of these thin and beautiful people on here keep making fun of the guy.

    I totally agree. It's a small small person that mocks a person with a problem, particularly when that person is making an honest effort to help himself. Apparently it makes some people feel good to make fun of those less fortunate than them - how classy.
  • Viacom Once Again Displays its Anti-Christian Position - The Timothy Plan Condemns Show

    03/08/2007 3:15:04 PM PST · 12 of 18
    Stone Mountain to BMIC
    Comedy Central is definitely not the place to go for high-class, family-friendly entertainment.

    Exactly. Why anyone would go there, watch their programming, and then get their panties in a bunch when something they don't like comes on? No family is forced to watch Comedy Central, or even Cable TV. Don't like crude TV shows? Watch the 700 Club.
  • Viacom Once Again Displays its Anti-Christian Position - The Timothy Plan Condemns Show

    03/08/2007 3:10:59 PM PST · 11 of 18
    Stone Mountain to jacknhoo
    Geez, lighten up. The show is hilarious. If you don't like it, change the channel. Or don't subscribe to Viacom or buy their stock. But I don't see why I shouldn't be able to watch a show I like just because there are others out there who might be offended by it. How is this any different from Liberals screaming that Rush Limbaugh should be taken off the air?
  • SF May Ban Plastic Grocery Bags

    03/08/2007 3:07:06 PM PST · 74 of 112
    Stone Mountain to Cagey

    The story left out that this would only be for grocery stores that gross over $2 million/year.

  • Pastor's paddle leads to assault charge

    03/08/2007 3:00:35 PM PST · 75 of 82
    Stone Mountain to Sopater
    In other words, the Bible is wrong? Well, that's your opinion.

    So any amount and severity in terms of beating your child is alright since the Bible says 'spare the rod, spoil the child?'
  • Half-Ton Man Ventures Out After Five Years

    03/08/2007 2:55:33 PM PST · 97 of 145
    Stone Mountain to DeerfieldObserver
    The guy didn't have the courage to get a gastric bypass. I find it hard to feel sorry for him.

    I think it takes more courage to lose the weight by staying on a strict diet than it does to get surgery for it. Good on him.
  • Bill Costs Man Pennies -- 52,662 Of Them

    03/08/2007 9:08:22 AM PST · 78 of 165
    Stone Mountain to Keith in Iowa

    Gotcha - thanks!

  • Bill Costs Man Pennies -- 52,662 Of Them

    03/08/2007 9:05:30 AM PST · 74 of 165
    Stone Mountain to Keith in Iowa
    Businesses are not obligated to accept payment in the form of pennies.

    What about nickels?
  • Bill Costs Man Pennies -- 52,662 Of Them

    03/08/2007 9:04:27 AM PST · 72 of 165
    Stone Mountain to Keith in Iowa
    The business is free to refuse to accept the payment....and I hope they do.

    They are? Isn't currency legal tender for all debts? (or words to that effect)
  • 12 Washington State High School Students Suspended for Public Prayer Group

    03/07/2007 2:40:50 PM PST · 122 of 126
    Stone Mountain to GovernmentShrinker

    I agree with most of what you say. But you can't make an exception for one group, no matter who they happen to be. Other groups will want to meet in the Commons area too. Even if it isn't disruptive now, the end result of letting one group meet there will be.

  • 12 Washington State High School Students Suspended for Public Prayer Group

    03/07/2007 10:41:22 AM PST · 108 of 126
    Stone Mountain to itsahoot

    hmmm.... maybe not... : )

  • 12 Washington State High School Students Suspended for Public Prayer Group

    03/07/2007 10:39:51 AM PST · 106 of 126
    Stone Mountain to GovernmentShrinker
    We don't know that that has been the policy in the past; though I'm sure administrators are now prohibiting other groups from meeting there..

    You don't think any of the 12 students would have mentioned it if it was? It's not like they were shy about talking about other issues.
  • 12 Washington State High School Students Suspended for Public Prayer Group

    03/07/2007 10:38:38 AM PST · 105 of 126
    Stone Mountain to itsahoot
    No and you probably won't, wonder why that is? Go check out a few schools Stone, there are several shortcomings in your understanding of the public school process.

    I see - you just assume facts that aren't in the record. Well, it's easy to argue based on that. Do you not believe that if other groups were allowed to meet there, that those students wouldn't have mentioned it? Or that Life Site News wouldn't have mentioned it?
  • 12 Washington State High School Students Suspended for Public Prayer Group

    03/07/2007 10:35:16 AM PST · 103 of 126
    Stone Mountain to GovernmentShrinker
    That passage is generally interpreted to mean that one should not engage in prayer with the intent of impressing others

    It seems to me that's exactly what they are doing. "The prayer circle’s purpose is visibility..."
  • 12 Washington State High School Students Suspended for Public Prayer Group

    03/07/2007 9:44:58 AM PST · 83 of 126
    Stone Mountain to GovernmentShrinker
    If an anti-war group of a dozen students had made a habit of gathering in the cafeteria of the 2200 student school for 10-15 minutes in the morning, before the school start time of 7AM, to share the latest stories of "innocent Iraqis killed by American soldiers", who, would they have been told they had to relocate the activity to an assigned room? Of would their argument that it was important to "make other students aware of the issues" have sufficed for administrators who happened to agree.

    If this had happened, you would have a good point. However, it appears that no groups are allowed to have their meetings in the Common area.
  • 12 Washington State High School Students Suspended for Public Prayer Group

    03/07/2007 9:44:52 AM PST · 82 of 126
    Stone Mountain to GovernmentShrinker
    If an anti-war group of a dozen students had made a habit of gathering in the cafeteria of the 2200 student school for 10-15 minutes in the morning, before the school start time of 7AM, to share the latest stories of "innocent Iraqis killed by American soldiers", who, would they have been told they had to relocate the activity to an assigned room? Of would their argument that it was important to "make other students aware of the issues" have sufficed for administrators who happened to agree.

    If this had happened, you would have a good point. However, it appears that no groups are allowed to have their meetings in the Common area.
  • 12 Washington State High School Students Suspended for Public Prayer Group

    03/07/2007 9:33:26 AM PST · 78 of 126
    Stone Mountain to jazusamo
    The prayer circle’s purpose is visibility...

    "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you." [Matthew 6:5-6]
  • 12 Washington State High School Students Suspended for Public Prayer Group

    03/07/2007 9:28:31 AM PST · 76 of 126
    Stone Mountain to GovernmentShrinker
    Remote location is an issue only if it distinctly different from the locations offered to favored groups.

    Agreed. I have seen no mention of this yet. If this were the case, I'm sure one of the 12 martyrs will be sure to bring it up.
  • 12 Washington State High School Students Suspended for Public Prayer Group

    03/07/2007 9:26:26 AM PST · 73 of 126
    Stone Mountain to itsahoot
    More like the back of the bus. How can 12 people block the flow of trafic in the Commons area, that is not a hallway?

    It can certainly be done. But even if they are just inconveniencing people but making them walk around them, the school doesn't have to put up with it. I have seen no evidence that the school allows other groups to meet in the Commons area. Why should this group be special? And again, if ALL they wanted to do was pray, they were provided a room to do so. Obviously, they had somethine else in mind.
  • 12 Washington State High School Students Suspended for Public Prayer Group

    03/07/2007 9:22:23 AM PST · 69 of 126
    Stone Mountain to Son House
    Commons area is not a hallway, it's a lunchroom type enviroment.

    Unless other groups are allowed to gather in the Commons area, this doesn't really matter.
  • 12 Washington State High School Students Suspended for Public Prayer Group

    03/07/2007 9:19:50 AM PST · 68 of 126
    Stone Mountain to moneypenny
    Because they can?

    No they can't. A school has a right to make rules about traffic flow. They just wanted to be all public with their prayers; otherwise, they would have just gone to a classroom discretely.

    And your wrong about employees coming along and breaking up people gabbing at Costco. They don't police patrol the aisles. At least in the ones I've shopped at.

    I've never been blocked by a group at Costco for very long. I'm sure that if I was, Costco would do something about it. Their business is selling stuff - if a group was impeding that process, of course Costco would do something about it.
  • Will a blood clot force Cheney to step down?

    03/07/2007 9:14:52 AM PST · 144 of 167
    Stone Mountain to nopardons; CyberAnt
    Sadly, far too few posters here, now, know even the most basic thing about politics or government and it keeps getting worse. Like you, I too am fed up with the sudden plethora of really ignorant posts.

    Geez, lighten up. So some people posting here are ignorant. Well, it's a good thing they're posting here so they'll get enlightened, right?
  • 12 Washington State High School Students Suspended for Public Prayer Group

    03/07/2007 9:08:25 AM PST · 59 of 126
    Stone Mountain to GovernmentShrinker
    They may have been offered a room that was too small to accommodate the group or allow for any growth at all.

    There were only 12 of them - I would guess most school rooms are more than capable of holding twice that many people.

    Or they may have been offered a room in a very remote location, which would have tended to discourage participation, while "politically correct" groups get the convenient spaces. How large is this group, and is it posing a legitimate hazard in the event an emergency evacuation of the school is needed, and to a degree not posed by any other groups that have been allowed to continue their activities?

    Remote location doesn't bother me - if they are being provided with a place to gather, that is sufficient. It's not like high schools are so big that students can't get to any classroom in a few minutes. If it's true that other groups are being afforded preferential treatment, that would be a good point, but there is no mention of that in the article.
  • 12 Washington State High School Students Suspended for Public Prayer Group

    03/07/2007 9:03:31 AM PST · 58 of 126
    Stone Mountain to moneypenny
    Have you ever been shopping at a mall or better yet Costco and have people standing in the middle of an aisle with cart in tow and chit chatting to their friends while you are trying to get to an item. This is okay...because?

    This is not okay. If people are blocking the aisles of a Costco and not allowing people to shop, I think you can be pretty sure that Costco employees will be along soon to move everyone along.

    Why was it so important for that group to pray in a public corridor instead of in private? I think we all know the answer to that question.

  • Republicans Already Smearing Themselves

    03/07/2007 8:53:07 AM PST · 16 of 16
    Stone Mountain to red meat conservative
    What is the incident with the woman crying that this guy is referencing?

    "At one point on Thursday night, Beltram said, a staffer for Arizona Sen. John McCain reduced Beltram's 19-year-old daughter to tears when he confronted her as she tried to deliver ballots to another precinct. "
  • 12 Washington State High School Students Suspended for Public Prayer Group

    03/07/2007 8:41:49 AM PST · 47 of 126
    Stone Mountain to csistrueblue

    Let's not Freep. These students were offered a room to pray in but that wasn't enough for them. They had to disrupt traffic and disturb others, all in the name of prayer. If all they wanted to do was pray, they clearly could have used the room that was offered. But no, they obviously wanted to proselytize by this public prayer spectacle they were offering up. What was it that Jesus said about those who pray in public?