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  • Apple And Samsung: Here’s What Happens When The Money Begins To Run Out

    12/27/2014 4:22:12 PM PST · 118 of 123
    Swordmaker to Wonder Warthog
    Note that I said TRIED to establish a monopoly. Fortunately, the competition of the rest of the computer world prevented that, for the most part. But the practices of all of the technologies Apple produced were attempts to monopolize control. Jobs succeeded not by competition, but by innovation of establishing NEW market niches for computerization, and by playing them as monopolies for as long as that was possible.

    No, you didn't. You said he was a monopolist. I called you on it. No you're backpedalling on it. . . trying to justify your fallacious position. You don't have a clue what a monopoly is.

  • Captive orangutan has human right to freedom, Argentine court rules

    12/27/2014 3:59:32 PM PST · 16 of 16
    Swordmaker to Brother Cracker

    Brother, I have, this is literally the FIFTH time this story has been posted on FreeRepublic. . . and I’m tired of beating this dead horse!

    But, since you asked nicely:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3239732/posts?page=9#9

  • Captive orangutan has human right to freedom, Argentine court rules

    12/27/2014 2:52:10 AM PST · 14 of 16
    Swordmaker to Brother Cracker

    I researched this. And the Judge DID NOT RULE THIS WAY!!!! In fact she ruled against granting Habeas Corpus for the Ape, saying the principle applies only to human persons. She did, however, order an investigation of conditions at the Buenos Aries Zoo relating to Argentina’s 1954 Animal cruelty Laws. . .

    This WHOLE FLURRY of repeated echo chamber stories are the result of a SINGLE source they all quote that does not cite the name of the court or the judge! That source is prone to hyperbolic news and prints stories on ghosts and UFOs with just as much proof as this. SHEESH!

  • ABOUT THAT 5% GDP GROWTH RATE…

    12/27/2014 2:30:03 AM PST · 19 of 21
    Swordmaker to smoothsailing

    Since when is a government mandated expense—by any sane person’s definition, A TAX—a factor in consumer discretionary spending to be counted as part of the “growing economic” activity? Especially, when it is so obvious that when it is accounted for is so, so, so, shall we say”flexible” instead of fictitious?

  • 5 apps for iTunes backup and recovery ( an a bit of a vanity)

    12/27/2014 12:38:50 AM PST · 17 of 21
    Swordmaker to itsahoot

    The WINDOWS computer cannot read the Mac formatted HD. . . so the external drive needs to be either pre-fornated for Windows, which the Mac can read and write fine, or it will need to be reformatted so the Windows machine can see it. The Mac can do that for you.

  • 5 apps for iTunes backup and recovery ( an a bit of a vanity)

    12/27/2014 12:37:00 AM PST · 16 of 21
    Swordmaker to texas booster; Michael.SF.

    I was just telling StarTraveler about that. . . see the above post on how to take care of that. . . you also partition a sector of a HD for the Windows format.

  • 5 apps for iTunes backup and recovery ( an a bit of a vanity)

    12/27/2014 12:35:18 AM PST · 15 of 21
    Swordmaker to Star Traveler

    If you copy your music to an external HD, be sure and format the drive in a Windows readable format. Don’t format it for a Mac. Format it in the Mac Disk Utility and chose the format that specifies it will be readable by both the Mac and a Windows computer. . . otherwise, your computer will not be able to not read your music on it.

  • Apple And Samsung: Here’s What Happens When The Money Begins To Run Out

    12/27/2014 12:31:35 AM PST · 93 of 123
    Swordmaker to jsanders2001
    I was referring to Samsung not Apple. I would venture to guess that networked devices might be crippled online rather than a chip being used in the future. The technology definitely exists and it would make it very difficult to detect and they know this...

    There I have to agree with you. . . when I got together wilt my girlfriend, she had a drawer full of obsolete smartphones. . . all Samsung that had quit before the end of her contracts and had to be replaced at her expense. Now she swears by Apple iPhones.

    She used to swear at her Dell laptop computer. . . and believed the crap that was spread about Apple Macs. I let her use mine a few times. . . and she tossed her Dell in the garbage (literally, after i backed up her photos and stuff) and had me take her down to the Apple Store and she bought a MacBook Air. She's never been happier.

    Unfortunately, her work (she works at home) supplies her with a Dell computer that she has to work with. . . and she swears at it daily. . . especially after the IT department does something new to it. It is frequently down. . . and sometimes will not work with their online partners, and sometimes won't allow her to connect to their VPN. I can't touch it because it's proprietary even though I KNOW what the problems are and could fix it for them, but then they couldn't get the big money they are bamboozling out of management. So I leave it alone. . . and she gets on her Mac and gets her work done. We just won't tell them that's what she's doing. LOL!

    At least her work is enlightened and now provides an iPhone for work. YAY! Maybe they will get rid of the IT department guys and get Macs for their employees. Their productivity would skyrocket. . . just by getting rid of all that down time.

  • Apple And Samsung: Here’s What Happens When The Money Begins To Run Out

    12/27/2014 12:17:46 AM PST · 92 of 123
    Swordmaker to adorno
    Apple is still, basically, a one-trick pony, and the iPhones will eventually start to crumble, when people realize that they don't need to pay premium prices for things that are costing hundreds less to other people.

    Oh, adorno. . . People have been saying that phrase for 30 years. . . they've been wrong. The iPad alone brought in more profits than Samsung's phones did this year. The Mac is up 21% this year over year and selling record numbers while the overall PC market is down 18%. . . including the Mac sales. Your "niche Macs" are now the number 3 computer seller in the United States, unseating Lenovo. In Worldwide sales, Apple is number 5. Some Niche. A couple of the companies who track computer sales are now counting tablet sales in with computers. . . and those two companies place Apple as the number ONE seller of computers in the world by a long shot.

    One trick pony? Apple Pay is just taking off and will be a major profit point for Apple. . . after just one month after introduction for use only on iPhone 6 and 6plus, 1% of ALL digital payments in the world were done with Apple Pay, despite it being only available in the US. Compare that to the 4% Google Wallet commands after more than THREE YEARS availability around the world on Android phones. The iPad portion of Apple's business generated more profit this year than all of Samsung's smartphone business after deducting for Samsung's marketing. Apple's iTunes store generated $12 Billion in revenues in 2014. The Apple Mac takes home 53% of all the profits in the world's PC markets. The iPhone takes home 87% of the profits in the mobile phone handset market. . . not just smartphone, all phones. One trick pony, my rear end.

  • Apple And Samsung: Here’s What Happens When The Money Begins To Run Out

    12/26/2014 11:32:12 PM PST · 90 of 123
    Swordmaker to dennisw
    Samsung is doing great and will put CRApple out of business. It has superior non-faggy non-liberal management. Just extrapolate out a few years to when CRApple becomes an exotic niche brand in the next downturn.

    Oh right. . . Samsung's CEO is a convicted criminal. . . and you prefer Samsung. Right. You would.

  • Apple And Samsung: Here’s What Happens When The Money Begins To Run Out

    12/26/2014 11:28:55 PM PST · 89 of 123
    Swordmaker to Wonder Warthog
    As I said....of the John D. Rockefeller type...a monopolist rather than a competitor.

    Exact;y WHAT monopoly is that, Wonder Warthog? Computers? Cellphones? Music Players? What? How did "Apple PC was and remains a small niche player in the PC market" result in creating a company that became more valuable than Exxon Mobile or more valuable than every business in Russia or have more cash on hand than the United States Government or a greater net worth than 85 nations. . . combined? Exactly WHAT monopoly? Please elucidate. How did he enforce this monopoly? What weapon of the monopolist did he use? What companies did he force out of business through predatory low pricing?

    In exactly WHAT MARKET did Apple have a monopoly? Apple products? That's like saying that Ford Motor Company has a monopoly on Ford Cars and Trucks. Or that Wonder Warthog has a monopoly on Wonder Warthog's labor.

  • Apple And Samsung: Here’s What Happens When The Money Begins To Run Out

    12/26/2014 11:09:48 PM PST · 88 of 123
    Swordmaker to jsanders2001
    Are people being ripped off by some of companies that produce hi-tech gadgets?

    Not that I have seen with Apple. The article's reference to Apple was the change in the charging plug. . . but there are good engineering reasons for that change. . . and they have not discontinued the previous 30 pin chargers which are still available in the Apple store and from literally dozens of 3rd partly licensed and unlicensed sources. My originally iPhone, which I purchased on the day they came out, June 29, 2007, has operated continuously since that day as a phone until last March, being passed down through my family, until it was finally retired as a phone, but continues being used as an iPod touch by my three year old granddaughter. . . all on the same "non-replaceable battery," which still will take an 80% charge after 7 1/2 years.

    My 2007 27" iMac is still going strong and was just upgraded to run OS X.10 Yosemite, the latest and greatest Macintosh Operating System. . . and it runs several instances of Windows—XP, 7, 8.1—as well as Linux—two versions—in Virtual Machines in Sandboxes under OS X (and I have run them all at the same time, just to see if I could) as well as the underlying UNIX™ OS. . . and have installs for MS-DOS, THEOS, and several other OSes if I have need of them. All that on a SEVEN YEAR old computer. Where is the design for obsolescence???? I was offered $575 for that iMac a couple of months ago by a local computer reseller because he can sell every one he can get his hands on.

    Same thing for iPhones. . . my daughter just upgraded her iPhone 4s to an iPhone 6. . . and sold the 4S, a four year old iPhone, for $175 which covered the cost for her new 6 on sale at Walmart. That's an iPhone with one of those old 30 pin connectors. . . it will be referred and resold in a 3rd world country. Not Obsolete yet.

  • Apple And Samsung: Here’s What Happens When The Money Begins To Run Out

    12/26/2014 10:52:44 PM PST · 87 of 123
    Swordmaker to adorno
    Loyalty to a brand makes no sense, and loving a company makes even less sense. Quality is nice, but, like some people here have already stated, good enough is all that's needed, especially with gadgets that are meant to become obsolete in 1-2 years, or that people will feel the "want" (not the 'need'; the 'want') to upgrade to the latest-and-greatest.

    If Macs are built to become "obsolete in 1-2 years," why is my late 2007 27" iMac still going strong after seven years, running OS X.10 Yosemite. . . without a problem? I was just offered $575 by a local computer RE-SELLER for that iMac. . . because he can resell every one he gets his hands on. We just sold our office's 8 year old Mac Pro for $900. . . and replaced it with a five year old model which we paid $1250 (I found a real bargain from a guy who was moving and downsizing and had only a short time to move it) because we needed one we could expand the RAM further. Can you say the same thing about ANY Windows PC that is SEVEN YEARS OLD?I know you cannot.

    The simple fact is, adorno, is that we DON'T pay a high price for something we can get a much lower prices. We are NOT stupid. The factual situation is that EVERY SINGLE analysis of Total Cost of Ownership has shown that it is FAR LESS EXPENSIVE in the long run to buy an Apple Macintosh than it is to buy one of those cheap Windows computers. . . and a good portion of that lower cost is the recovery made when the computer is resold on upgrade.

    My original iPhone, purchased on the day the iPhones were released on June 29, 2007, was handed down through family members and finally retired as a phone last march but continues in use as an iPod touch being used by my three year old granddaughter, 7 1/2 years AFTER it was put in service. . . all on the original battery which still has approximately 80% discharge time left after charging. . . and in the meantime I have not paid ONE RED CENT to upgrade to the latest and greater iPhones as they came out because I can SELL each previous model for MORE than the cost to upgrade. . . something you cannot do with any other smartphone make two years after they come out.

    As an example, a fellow I know went with me when I upgraded to the iPhone 5 three years ago. . . to upgrade his latest and greatest Samsung flagship phone he had purchased for FULL UNLOCKED RETAIL of $649, not three months before. . . which he had grown to hate. I was offered a trade in of $275 for my two year old iPhone 4S which covered the entire upgrade and activation costs plus some for my upgrade. . . but his three month old, top of the line Samsung—which was still being sold for that high price—was worth only $64.95 in trade in! When asked why, the answer was that "No one wants them!" He went ahead and paid full bore for an iPhone 5 and switched his phone service to it.

    And, most of us have BEEN users of the Windows junk. . . and you could not pay us to go back to that hell. Many of the iPhone users have been Android users and the same situation is true. They simply do not WANT to spend their time tweaking their phones to get them to work and downloading apps to find the best stuff they simply get already with the iPhone.

    Samsung is losing money because their phone division is dragging down ALL of their company. . .

  • Apple And Samsung: Here’s What Happens When The Money Begins To Run Out

    12/26/2014 10:16:16 PM PST · 85 of 123
    Swordmaker to Wonder Warthog
    Jobs at every chance worked to make the Apple a closed system, both of hardware and software. The original Macintosh was designed to be totally closed, with no ability by the owner to modify or change it. The market forced Jobs to change that somewhat, but at every step his impetus has always been "closed and proprietary". In the Apple universe, Wozniak was the "wise and true" open systems guy.

    Wozniak wanted to GIVE his computers away... not sell them. He was not even interested in making money. Don't give me that crap that open systems is capitalism . . . it isn't. Apple was practicing capitalism. Making a product that people wanted and selling it. . . and had NO OBLIGATION to make it open like you seem to think they did. Steve Jobs wanted to sell the original Mac for $1695, but was overruled by the CEO of the company. . . a guy he hired. . . and and it was put on the market for the SAME price IBM was selling their computer for, $2495. You make the mistake of conflating free market with open source.

    Bill Gates was no "wise and true free market capitalist." Bill Gates was a pirate. . . who would steal anything that was not nailed down and even then if no one was looking. You have no clue about what made Steve Jobs great. . . or why his technologies and vision remade FIVE industries. . . without ever being a monopolist. Gates made a monopoly and acted like a monopolist. . . and was slapped down for it.

    Frankly, I don't think you have a clue what a "free market capitalist" is from what you have written, and i say that from being educated as an Economist.

  • Apple And Samsung: Here’s What Happens When The Money Begins To Run Out

    12/26/2014 9:59:38 PM PST · 84 of 123
    Swordmaker to mylife
    It’s the human condition.
    Most folks are BSers whether they know it or not.

    Hmmmm. . . just like your 10X figure for Apple computing costs. . .

  • Apple And Samsung: Here’s What Happens When The Money Begins To Run Out

    12/26/2014 9:34:40 PM PST · 83 of 123
    Swordmaker to Star Traveler; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; ...
    Who is cutting back on R&D and closing stores in the smartphone markets because of dismal future sales outlooks? It isn't Apple. . . — PING!


    Apple Ping!

    If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

  • World's Most Powerful Handgun-The Walker Colt .44 Revolver

    12/25/2014 10:13:39 PM PST · 54 of 54
    Swordmaker to Mr Rogers

    Thank you for the links Mr Rogers. I have been out of the gun industry since the late 70s. . . and obviously there has been a lot of work done on this subject since then. Thank you for the education. I appreciate it.

  • World's Most Powerful Handgun-The Walker Colt .44 Revolver

    12/25/2014 2:51:06 PM PST · 48 of 54
    Swordmaker to Rinnwald
    However, on some items with delicate lock work (Colt Lightnings and Thunderers come to mind) functionality does indeed improve value. I like early S&W DA's, and their primary value is as shooters.

    Functionality and the ability to safely fire a round are two entirely different things. A Damascus barreled shotgun may be perfectly functional, but completely unsafe to fire. . . because the method of manufacturing the barrel allowed corrosion between the wire wrapping pattern that was hammer welded. . . and over the years since it was manufactured, just by age, it has weakened, no matter how good it looks. Internally, the physically welded joined wires are no longer strong enough to take the pressures. As i told my customers Damasus and other barrels made by similar hammer welded means would shoot from now until Doomsday. . . yours. But no one knows when that doomsday would come as the metal lets go due to corrosion and fatigue. I had several Damascus barrels I kept where the chambers had blown to show them why these guns were now only wall hangers. . . and should NEVER be taken out into the field. They would probably do OK with black powder loaded shells, but they would chamber smokeless shells just fine. . . and blow up! No way should they be put in a position where that could happen accidentally.

    A gunsmith can tell you if the timing and functionality of a Colt Lightning or Thunderer is working correctly without firing the gun, which puts it at risk of destruction. . . a badly timed revolver is a danger to itself and its user. My thinking was more on the antique flintlocks and cap and ball firearms. . . but also to any black powder antiques. If one wants to shoot them, use a replica. EVERY modern firing of an antique detracts from the value a bit. . . because it has to be cleaned and both shooting and cleaning are going to add wear and tear to the firearm and potentially destroy it. Why take the risk?

  • World's Most Powerful Handgun-The Walker Colt .44 Revolver

    12/25/2014 2:38:00 PM PST · 47 of 54
    Swordmaker to CarmichaelPatriot
    According to this, a .44 Mag with wadcutters (or JHP) packs a rating of 136.

    Those are bogus numbers. . . how can you have a 136 on a scale that only goes to 100? i.e. 100% of the time you can stop a man in a fight situation with one shot. It simply is not possible. These people who make up these numbers are using theoretical numbers based on velocity and bullet weight and NOT the entire SYSTEMIC data which also includes the firearm in the data. Without understanding the involvement of the firearm in the ability to deliver the round to the target, it is meaningless. How would that .44Mag perform if shot our of a 2" barrel? Not as well as if it were shot out of a 4" bbl gun and even better when shot from a 8 3/8" bbl'd firearm. Another consideration is WHAT is the target and its situation? How thick is the body? What distance will the bullet have to traverse? These over 100 numbers do not ever consider any of these data in their numbers that exceed unity. How do you stop someone more than once? As I said, it is not possible.

  • World's Most Powerful Handgun-The Walker Colt .44 Revolver

    12/25/2014 2:29:47 PM PST · 46 of 54
    Swordmaker to Mr Rogers
    Your theory on stopping power is bogus. You don’t kill someone with energy. You kill them by hitting something vital as the bullet makes a channel thru the flesh. You also are ignoring things like hollowpoint bullets.

    Tell that to the US Army who developed the Hatcher Relative Stopping Power Scale under General Julian Hatcher (then Colonel) who was charged with find a method for determining the best side arm for military use, Mr Rogers. I spoke of hitting something vital with the neat holes . . . a dying eventually as the target bleeds out. The death is unimportant in STOPPING POWER. . . which is where you miss the point. SHOCK to the body is the point, to STOP the person in a FIGHT situation from continuing his action. . . not necessarily to kill immediately but to STOP him. You STOP them with energy delivered to the target. You can kill someone with a minor amount of poison delivered which will kill them in minutes, hours, days later. . . but that does not STOP them instantly from shooting back at you.

    And I addressed "hollow point bullets" when I wrote about bullets that are designed to increase the cross-sectional density of smaller, lighter bullets to slow them down. That covers hollow point or any bullet that is designed to expand in size on impact. You really don't know what you are talking about. . . in this case. I do. Sorry.

  • World's Most Powerful Handgun-The Walker Colt .44 Revolver

    12/25/2014 3:02:17 AM PST · 32 of 54
    Swordmaker to exnavy
    My personal carry weapon is a 100 year old Colt SAA. The action is smooth as butter. It comes up exactly on point.

    The 7.5" barreled .45 SAA is still the best balanced handgun ever made, in my opinion. Always returns to the sight picture after firing. Beautiful design. Sheer genius.

  • World's Most Powerful Handgun-The Walker Colt .44 Revolver

    12/25/2014 1:38:50 AM PST · 30 of 54
    Swordmaker to CarmichaelPatriot
    S&W .460 Magnum has higher velocity. 200gr JHP @ 2400 fps. Thats faster than a lot of rifles.

    The magnums punch fairly neat holes. . . and may kill the intended targets, but the question is "when will the target die?" They'll bleed out from the entry and exit wound. . . but not much energy from the bullet passing through has been imparted to the target on its way through, unless it hits a bone or two. The idea of "Stopping Power" is the ability of the SYSTEM, gun and ammunition, to deliver energy and shock to the target in sufficient amounts to STOP the target from his intended purpose of injuring you or others. Neat through and through holes do not accomplish that. High velocity SYSTEMS are not necessarily going to do that. You need to slow that bullet down once it has entered the target and stop it, thereby imparting every single foot/pound of energy it is carrying to that target so that none of that energy is wasted by exiting out the back and doing an unintended collateral damage to innocent bystanders across the street or over the horizon. All of the expanding bullets are intended to increase the cross-sectional density of the bullet on impact to do that; to get the bullet down below the speed of sound in water (about the same as that in body), at which point it can start efficiently transmitting a sonic shock wave of energy through the body, draining it from the bullet. Think of the sonic boom. . .

    The Hatcher scale is ranked from 0 to 100 where 100 is the rating of a handgun system that WILL be guaranteed to stop a man in a fight situation— i.e. hopped up on adrenalin—100% of the time, with a single shot. There is NO handgun that can do that. None. (perhaps a hand grenade could do it, but that's not a handgun!).

    A study of police officers killed in the line of duty in the 1960s found that more than 60% of them had been killed by their assailants AFTER the officer had mortally wounded their assailant with either a .38 S&W Special or a .357 S&W Magnum round. In other words, the killer was already dead when he or she killed the officer, but didn't know it yet. . . because the weapon system used on the assailant was inefficient in delivering sufficient STOPPING POWER. The .38 Special was simply too wimpy, with too light a bullet, too light and small of a bullet, and not enough energy. The .38 special rated only 35-36 on the Hatcher Relative Stopping Power Scale. On the other hand, the .357 Magnum rated only 38-40 on the Hatcher scale. . . because it had the same failings of light, small bullets, but too much velocity. . . with failure of the bullet to stop in the targets. One can gain a few points with using expanding point bullets, but the weight and energy are still lacking to gain much stopping power. The .45 ACP gets around 55, IIRC, and the .44 S&W Magnum ranged from 64-69 depending on load and barrel length of the firearm. The best rating on the scale was reported from the Colt Single Action Army in .45 Long Colt with a 7.5 inch barrel which came in with a Hatcher rating of 73.

    Some guns you so do not want to put your life defense on. . . I'm working from memory here. . . but I'm close.

    • .22 Short? Hatcher Scale rating = 2 - 5.
    • .22 LR? Hatcher Scale rating = 5 - 10.
    • .25 Auto? Hatcher Scale rating = 2-4 (!)
    • .32 Auto? Hatcher Scale rating = 15 - 18.
    • 9mm Kurtz/.380 Auto? Hatcher Scale rating = 22-25.
    • 9 mm Parabellum - luger load? Hatcher Scale rating = 28-32
    • 9mm Plus loads not for luger? Hatcher Scale rating = 35-38.

    I want a gun and system that gives me at least a rating of 50. . . or if less, keep firing.
  • World's Most Powerful Handgun-The Walker Colt .44 Revolver

    12/25/2014 12:57:53 AM PST · 28 of 54
    Swordmaker to Rinnwald
    Yeah, I was wondering who wrote this article, Calvin Coolidge? There's a new big dog in town, and it starts with 3-5-7.

    Oh, by-the-way, and I also owned a Colt Walker and several other percussion Colt revolvers, before i switched to collecting Winchester rifles. I also identified and authenticated the 21st surviving Fluck Colt Dragoon in existence, with the double Walker holster rig and Walker flask for a friend. . . who had it GIVEN to him by an acquaintance at a shooting range. Value at that time was somewhere north of $40,000! Fluck Dragoons were pre-1st Model Colt Dragoons made on Walker frames but with Dragoon trigger guards, and 1st model Dragoon barrels. They were in their own serial number range, and were, according to documentation researched by a collector named Fluck, made to replace approximately 225 Colt Walkers destroyed in service for the Texas Rangers. I was certified as an expert witness on antique firearms by the California Superior Courts.

    No, my original Walker was not in shootable condition (don't believe those idiots on Pawn Stars who claim that an Antique firearms needs to be fireable to add value. I would NEVER recommend anyone shoot their fine antiques firearms! I cringed overtime I heard them say that or shoot one.) . . . I had a replica for that. It was fun to shoot. Clouds of white smoke!

  • World's Most Powerful Handgun-The Walker Colt .44 Revolver

    12/25/2014 12:41:12 AM PST · 27 of 54
    Swordmaker to Rinnwald
    Yeah, I was wondering who wrote this article, Calvin Coolidge? There's a new big dog in town, and it starts with 3-5-7.

    Too fast and too small of a bullet. The Colt .44 Walker with a 9 inch barrel had a huge bullet that STOPPED in the target it hit. . . and delivered every single foot/pound of energy it carried to the target with a bullet that was already "pre-expanded" To this day, the .45 Long Colt in the 7 1/2" barrel Single Action Colt has the highest Hatcher Relative Stopping power scale rating of 73, higher than the .44 S&W Magnum's 69 rating from an 8 3/8" barrel model 29. . . because the speed of the bullet means the bullet does not deliver the energy to the target but carries it away with it and hits something beyond the intended target. You want a Mack Truck to hit your target and not leave for parts unknown (like the neighbor's babysitter or your kids on the other side of a sheetrock wall).

    High velocity does not necessarily translate to energy delivered. . . since the energy can only be transferred efficiently after the bullet slows to the speed of sound of the medium its moving through. The Colt .45 Long Colt and the .44 black powder loads were already traveling slower than sound speed. . . when they hit, they immediately started delivery of their energy.

    I managed the Olde Sacramento Armory for several years and Simms Hardware's Gun department forty years or so ago. . .

  • Apple releases OS X NTP Security Update; Mac users advised to install ASAP

    12/24/2014 1:02:57 AM PST · 24 of 24
    Swordmaker to MediaMole
    I get that. I am probably the most cross-platform person out there. This is posted with Linux, I use Mac OS at work, have a Win7 laptop and a couple IOS phones.

    Windows uses a simpler NTP system even though it uses the same packet information, but it isn't as robust as the UNIX/Linux system. . . so, strangely, it isn't vulnerable to THIS problem, this time. If i recall correctly, it had similar problems several years ago, though.

  • Apple releases OS X NTP Security Update; Mac users advised to install ASAP

    12/23/2014 9:54:45 PM PST · 22 of 24
    Swordmaker to MediaMole
    These days, it seems everyone is sharing the same code base and the same vulnerabilities.

    NTP is Network Time Protocol and in this instance is a system daemon module under UNIX™ and Linux like operating systems. . . it essentially keeps the clocks synchronized across networks by linking with known time servers on the Internet. A flaw was discovered in the UNIX™ and Linux implementations of NTP that has been around for years that would, if exploited by placing a man-in-the-middle server between the machine requesting sync and the legitimate time server, could potentially force a data buffer overflow and allow arbitrary code to be run, and therefore allowing a malicious intruder to take over a targeted machine. Since this NTP is something that has to run over networks, it is given high Root priority, it is a high risk. By its nature it is cross UNIX and Linux and, I wouldn't be surprised, iOS. . . all essentially UNIX at core. (Linux was clean room backward engineered from UNIX.)

  • Apple releases OS X NTP Security Update; Mac users advised to install ASAP

    12/23/2014 9:20:44 PM PST · 19 of 24
    Swordmaker to dayglored
    Yeah this applies to all systems and OSes with NTP, Linux, BSD, etc.

    Thanks for the info on the universality of this NTP flaw extending to all *nix type operating systems.

  • Apple releases OS X NTP Security Update; Mac users advised to install ASAP

    12/23/2014 9:17:23 PM PST · 18 of 24
    Swordmaker to DigitalVideoDude; bubbacluck
    It freaked me out to see an update applied that I did not have to approve. I didn’t like it. It seemed suspicious. So, I did some research and found that Apple pushed this security update using a system that does not require user interaction. Ugh. Sounds like another potential exploit vector.

    Why are you surprised. At some point you set your App Store update preferences to automatically install updates, specifically system data files and security updates (those are the things that keep your Mac safe):

  • Why Apple shouldn't be blamed for exploitation in China and Indonesia

    12/23/2014 7:14:45 PM PST · 29 of 29
    Swordmaker to central_va
    Actually I own an i-mac.

    Right. It's "iMac" not "I-mac." I drive a 2009 Ford Taurus. . . before that it was a 2001 Chrysler 300M. . . but I couldn't force myself to buy an Italian owned Fiat after Obambi paid Fiat $80 billion to take it away from the share holders. . . Ford told him what he could do with his Auto industry bailout money. For that, I respect them. . . but I know that about 60% of my Ford is foreign made parts.

  • Why Apple shouldn't be blamed for exploitation in China and Indonesia

    12/23/2014 6:21:21 PM PST · 27 of 29
    Swordmaker to central_va
    All of my electronics are made overseas as traitors off shored electronics decades ago.

    Then you should buy an Apple iMac, better than 85% of it is made in the United States by American Workers, with only the minimum imported parts that cannot be made here. . . or better yet, a MacPro. Made in Texas by Texans.

  • Why Apple shouldn't be blamed for exploitation in China and Indonesia

    12/23/2014 5:50:53 PM PST · 25 of 29
    Swordmaker to central_va

    What make is your computer, your TV, your car, and your phone. Answer the question.

  • Why Apple shouldn't be blamed for exploitation in China and Indonesia

    12/23/2014 5:01:21 PM PST · 23 of 29
    Swordmaker to central_va
    For that matter if you can't manufacture in the USA then find something else to do.

    So, tell me. who made your computer and phone?

  • Yes, Virginia, Microsoft's Surface Pro 3 is a hot seller

    12/23/2014 4:34:43 PM PST · 13 of 18
    Swordmaker to Erik Latranyi
    Apple has no path to harmonizing iOS with OSX.

    Not exactly true. While not sharing apps, Handoff allows you to start documents on an iPad or iPhone and complete them on a Mac and vice verse.

  • Why Apple shouldn't be blamed for exploitation in China and Indonesia

    12/23/2014 3:43:15 PM PST · 21 of 29
    Swordmaker to central_va
    If the two products are of unequal quality then thy are not the same product.

    Have you ever seen a knock-off? He showed me the ones he was competing against. They looked the same, supposedly did the same thing. . . you could not tell them apart, if they were placed side-by-side. But the knock-off would no way last as long, or have the same output wave-form as the American product. . . or the one that he later had made to his specifications in Indonesia. There was no way a consumer could tell that from looking at the product or the specs on the packaging. WAKE UP! Quit trying to make excuses for the crime that has been committed against our people by our own government to extract our substance and our ability to earn our own incomes. We cannot fight the leviathan who can crush us with the might, money, and resources of the US government. That is what these entrepreneurs faced. . . and other businesses, small and large faced. You damn them for finding a way for their businesses to survive. You would have done the same in the same situation.

  • Why Apple shouldn't be blamed for exploitation in China and Indonesia

    12/23/2014 2:06:39 PM PST · 19 of 29
    Swordmaker to central_va
    OK, you didn't ask this faux patriot ( if I believe the issues you bring up), would he have still make a profit if manufacturing in the USA? I'll bet yes. It is greed at work here, not just profit motive. You said his profits fell, well just what does that mean? Does it mean instead of making 50 million in profits he would only make 49 million? Without figures your story means doodly squat. I wouldn't believe a word this so called patriot says.

    You make a lot of assumptions, and those assumptions attempt to denigrate both this hard working entrepreneur and me as a liar. You would LOSE your bet. Which makes an ass out of you. You don't know anything about it. You know NOTHING of his circumstances and you sit there and judge him.

    His profits fell to below ZERO, central_va. His products could not be sold at the price he had to make them for here. He had ORDERS he had to cancel. . . and he was NOT going to suggest his customers buy from his competition. . . nor did they want to. The knock-off duplicates he could not fight were selling at BELOW his cost to manufacture but were not up to the same quality as his product. You are an idiot if you think you can compete against that. He cannot pump his hard earned dollars out the door to keep people employed to PLEASE YOU and your liberal friends ideas of how to conduct business. That is the reality.

    In the USofA, the government has more to say about how you manage your business than you do. AND, frankly, they now take the lion's share of the income and the profits. . . that is also the reality.

    His choice was outsourcing manufacture or bankruptcy and laying off the rest of his staff. Which would you choose? It was NOT a choice he made lightly. . . something you seem to think businesses do easily and maliciously. You are an economic dunce. . . and don't know enough to stay in business. You'd go bankrupt in a day. Try meeting a payroll every two weeks and also the demands of the government regulators. I HAVE. I am doing it right now. . . and trying to keep my staff employed and insured. Frankly, we are NOT going to be able to do it beyond January 1 because of what our wonderful administration has done to "help" the workers. One, or the other, has to go. The owners of the company have NOT taken home any money for over three YEARS in order to keep the staff paid and the doors open. There is no recovery. It is all smoke and mirrors.

    As Steve Jobs told Obama, the jobs will not return because what can be done in Asia in three months takes a minimum THREE YEARS in the US, because of the obstruction of the government regulators. In Tech. . . the window of opportunity is long closed by the time the regulators have put down their coffee, closed their magazines, and reached for the in-boxes and stopped surfing porn on their government issued computers to actually DO SOMETHING on any applications for action. . . which most times is obstruction or outright denial. If they DO, by some miracle, approve a project, then a "stake holder" Non-Governmental Organization will file a lawsuit impeding progress until a Federal or State judge, who has no expertise in the area at all, impedes it even further. . . or issues an injunction against it, until an appeals court overrides his or her idiotic whim, which was based on a mis-reading of the law. . . at which point another NGO brings another nuisance lawsuit and the whole merry-go-round in the courts starts all over again. Sometimes it is the regulatory agency, or some department in the agency itself, having been over-ruled by it's own board, that brings the suit (yes, this has happened!), and years, later, the project, may or may not, finally, get off the drawing board. THAT is the reality in our over-regulated, litigious United States of America for job creation.

    Forty years ago, a company I managed wanted to bid on a Federal contract we were eminently qualified to fulfill. I requested the paperwork to submit a bid. The paper work and regulations we had to comply with literally arrived on a PALLET, central_va! This was for a contract under $5,000,000. The amount of compliance paper work we were going to be required to fill out and the reporting we would be required to submit, would have eliminated any profits we could have realized from the contract! It was then that I learned the reason behind the $600 hammers, and $900 screw drivers: paperwork. It has only gotten worse since then. . . far worse. Now, of course, the forms are filed on the internet, but the amount of compliance costs are much higher.

  • Gun Control Ad Tells Kids to Steal Their Parents’ Guns and Bring Them to the Worst Possible Location

    12/23/2014 1:24:39 AM PST · 4 of 15
    Swordmaker to Berlin_Freeper
    The video depicts a teenage boy sneaking into his mother’s room, taking a gun out of her dresser drawer (who knows if it’s loaded or unloaded), putting it in his backpack and then taking it to school. After class, he waits for the other students to leave then puts the gun on the teacher’s desk and says, “Can you take this away? I don’t feel safe with a gun in my house.”

    He's terrified of a Crossman C11 CO2 BB gun. . . wow. I'm underwhelmed with the gun, but more with the sheer number of felonies these idiots are suborning minors to commit all across America. . . burglary, grand theft, concealed carry without a permit, smuggling a weapon onto school grounds, transfer a weapon twice without proper registration, menacing (pointing the gun muzzle first toward the teacher), Inducing the teacher to possess stolen property, inducing the teacher to possess a weapon on school grounds. . .

    Biblically, he is dishonoring his mother and committing theft. Two of the ten commandments.

    He is a sniveling little wimp of a limp waisted ideal of the Liberal boy child that has been feminized into surrendering his testicles. The sad thing is that his mother did not do it. . . except by not home schooling him.

  • “I don’t feel safe with a gun in my house”: Gun Control PSA Tells Kids to Steal Parents’ Guns,

    12/23/2014 1:10:13 AM PST · 31 of 51
    Swordmaker to Kickass Conservative
    Why would any red blooded American Kid do such a thing? Those Guns cost a lot of money.

    He's not a red blooded American Kid. . . he's a BLUE blooded, brainwashed Liberal Kid. . .

  • Apple releases OS X NTP Security Update; Mac users advised to install ASAP

    12/23/2014 12:32:22 AM PST · 2 of 24
    Swordmaker to ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; Aliska; altair; ...
    Important Network Time Protocol Security Update for OS X Lion, Mavericks, and Yosemite now available. Use Software update — PING!


    Apple OS X Network Time Protocol Security Update Ping!

    If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

  • Apple releases OS X NTP Security Update; Mac users advised to install ASAP

    12/23/2014 12:29:16 AM PST · 1 of 24
    Swordmaker
  • “I don’t feel safe with a gun in my house”: Gun Control PSA Tells Kids to Steal Parents’ Guns,

    12/22/2014 11:17:10 PM PST · 19 of 51
    Swordmaker to Impala64ssa
    The gun he stole is a Crossman C11 CO2 BB gun. . . and the School is the Northwest Oakland Charter School. There are so many potential felonies they are encouraging in this little PSA. . . Last time i looked there were 14 thumbs up to over 1,000 thumbs down. I think it's backfiring in their face.
  • Court Declares Orangutan “Non Human Person,” Ignores Babies Killed in Abortion

    12/22/2014 10:46:55 PM PST · 8 of 12
    Swordmaker to Morgana; dfwgator; Ben Mugged; CrazyIvan; FlingWingFlyer; tumblindice; haroldeveryman

    This is NOT what it seems. . . I researched it and found the story behind the false story. . . This comes from a SINGLE, not so reliable source. If you notice, neither the court, nor the judge is named.

    Check my post on a previous thread.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3239732/posts?page=9#9

  • Why Apple shouldn't be blamed for exploitation in China and Indonesia

    12/22/2014 8:55:32 PM PST · 17 of 29
    Swordmaker to central_va
    You post is poorly researched and based on BS. You could ship raw material from antrarctica and it would only increase the cost per unit a minscule amount. Apple would make just as much money if manufacturing was done in the USA. I hope one day Free Traitors will come to their senses and quit denying.

    No, central_va, you don't really know what you are talking about. There are literally hundreds to thousands of parts that come from all over the world that go into Apple products. . . and they have to be brought together at just the right time. Apple has perfected the just in time inventory system that works because many of the sub-assembly-contractors are fairly close together, in China. . . and Apple can ramp-up production quickly in response to market forces. In the United States, that is not the case any more. Too many bureaucratic hurdles to leap over. . . not to mention problems with customs for many of the imported parts.

    At Macworld last year, i was discussing an innovative product with a long-time US manufacturer who had just made the decision to move his line to Asia. Why was he jumping ship? He didn't want to—he was a conservative patriot, a wounded veteran, a Republican, and had fought the move for years—and it galled him to do it. But because under US rules, EACH time a minor change was made in his products manufactured here, he has to go through an entire months long approval process with the Underwriters' Laboratories BEFORE he gets approval in his state to even start manufacturing it. . . a minor improvement that changes the design for efficiency of manufacturing takes MONTHS to get new approvals. . . where an imported device of exactly the same design DOES NOT REQUIRE IT! The straw that finally broke his back was a new ruling that if a product had not been produced or assembled for three months to even to start-up his production line with the SAME product an identical product would have to be submitted for similar months longs approvals, to make sure nothing has been changed, before he could resume production! It was uneconomical to run the assembly lines so sporadically or for such small runs. . . His profits fell through the floor with the new rules.

    He WANTED to keep manufacturing here, but the bureaucracy made it impossible to do so and make a profit and keep ahead of the competition. Literally IMPOSSIBLE.

    Thus, he was laying off 250 workers at his California Plant and moving his manufacturing to Indonesia.

    He developed this product category, but by the time he got it to market, and the leaks in the approval agencies, there were a dozen identical Asian knockoffs being sold because of the manufacturing delays imposed by bureaucratic redtape in the USA. INSANE!

    in Asia, he can make a design change and have it on the assembly line in a week. . . not months.

    When are YOU going to wake up to the real reasons why manufacturing has fled the United States?

  • Orangutan In Argentina Zoo Recognised By Court As 'Non-Human Person'

    12/21/2014 11:14:03 PM PST · 9 of 16
    Swordmaker to Steelfish
    I have tried to confirm this and it all comes from a single source: Higher perspective.com, which is not a respected resource at all. . . but other sources say the judge ruled AGAINST Sandra's personhood back in November. Something stinks here.
    No Orangutan Writ of Habeas Corpus
    By Wesley J. Smith — National Review Article
    November 22, 2014 12:16 AM

    How does one type the words–”Organugan writ of hapeas corpus”–without the laptop exploding.

    It should be ludicrous. But animal rights activists are suing, or planning to sue, all over the place looking for just one judge willing to go radical and grant one animal “personhood,” Here in New York, for example, the NonHuman Rights Project has brought a similar suit, to a laudatory cover story in the New York Times Magazine.

    A Brazilian (Sic) judge came close a few years ago to granting a chimp the Great Writ. But the animal died,, forcing the disappointed judge to dismiss the case as moot.

    Now, a Brazilian judge has thankfully said no to making an orangutan a “person.” From the Merco Press story:

    “Sandra is in captivity, living in absolute solitude in the Buenos Aires city zoo” argued AFADA, which requested the orangutan be transferred to a sanctuary to preserve the species. “She is being treated as a prisoner and has to suffer the presence of the public staring at her”.

    AFADA said in the presentation that it was appropriate “to question the deprivation of liberty of the primate, based on illegitimacy and the acknowledgement she is a non human person”. The animals-rights activists’ organization anticipated they would be appealing the ruling and demanded Sandra’s protection on “at least three basic rights, the right to life, the right not to be tortured or ill treated physically or psychologically”.

    Those putative rights come from Peter Singer’s, The Great Ape Project.

    Previosly, PETA sued Sea World seeking to have orcas declared “slaves.” The case was tossed out, but only because the judge ruled only humans can slaves, based on pre Civil War definitions describing African-American slaves as persons.

    So, for now, human exceptionalism has not been hit with a sledge hammer. But animal rights anti-humanists will keep trying. And very rich and powerful people keep donating tens of millions for the cause.

    Of course, human exceptionalism supports proper animal welfare practices as a duty. But proper care of animals isn’t the ultimate goal of animal rightists and utilitarians like Peter Singer, rather, their goal is to reduce us to just another animal in the forest.

    So sleep well, tonight. Sandra the orangutan should be cared for properly. But she remains legally what she is: by definition, not a person.

    But don’t sleep too well: Remember: It takes only one judge wanting to go down in history.

    So, unless something is very wrong in Denmark, we've had TWO judges ruling on the same case in less than a month. . . and that does not make sense at all. This last case again comes from just one source. . . and every other article cites that source verbatim without citing court or judge. . . and of course neither does this one. What's going on here? That is just poor reporting in either story. Of course, the last time I looked, Buenos Aires IS the capitol of Argentina. . . and what jurisdiction a Brazilian Judge would have adjudicating Sandra's case I just don't know. . . or believe. So there are some really weird things going on here!

    OK . . . more research, and getting to the bottom of this. I found the original article from MercoPress.com, Montevideo, which DOES name the court and the judge in Argentina from back in November:

    Friday, Noves not apply to Sumatran orangutan in Buenos Aires zoo
    MercoPress.com —Friday, November 21st 2014 - 22:55 UTC

    Sandra, a 20-year Sumatran orangutan must remain at the Buenos Aires zoo following the rejection of an habeas corpus request presented by a group in defense of animal rights. The magistrate ruled that the 'non human person' presentation was not applicable to Sandra as pretended by AFADA, Association of Staff and Lawyers for Animals' rights.

    “Sandra is in captivity, living in absolute solitude in the Buenos Aires city zoo” argued AFADA, which requested the orangutan be transferred to a sanctuary.

    But the judge did order an investigation as to Sandra's captivity conditions and if she is a victim of ill-treatment under the 1954 animal protection bill. But the judge did order an investigation as to Sandra's captivity conditions and if she is a victim of ill-treatment under the 1954 animal protection bill.

    “Sandra is in captivity, living in absolute solitude in the Buenos Aires city zoo” argued AFADA, which requested the orangutan be transferred to a sanctuary to preserve the species. “She is being treated as a prisoner and has to suffer the presence of the public staring at her”.

    AFADA said in the presentation that it was appropriate “to question the deprivation of liberty of the primate, based on illegitimacy and the acknowledgement she is a non human person”.

    The animals-rights activists' organization anticipated they would be appealing the ruling and demanded Sandra's protection on “at least three basic rights, the right to life, the right not to be tortured or ill treated physically or psychologically”.


    Criminal Court Judge, Monica Berdion de Crudo

    The criminal court judge, Monica Berdion de Crudo, rejected point blank the request recalling that it only applies to humans persons, but nevertheless ordered an investigation as to Sandra's captivity conditions and if she is a victim of ill-treatment under the 1954 animal protection bill.

    AFADA has also presented habeas corpus for chimpanzees in Argentine zoos hoping to establish a lead case “with the purpose of making use of this legal tool in defense of animals in captivity rights”, points out a release from the association.

    A similar request was presented in December 2013 before a New York court by a US organization that defends animals' rights, arguing that four chimpanzees in captivity can be considered “legal persons” and thus with the right to liberty.

    MercoPress is the Southern Atlantic New Agency. . . and there have been NO updates to this story under links to the Judge's name, or under Sumatran Orangutan since November. The judge is unlikely to over-rule herself and suddenly give the Orangutan rights. . . but she may find the ape is being maltreated under Argentina's animal treatment laws.

  • Gun Control PSA Encourages Minor Delinquency (UNBELIEVABLE!)

    12/21/2014 10:32:13 PM PST · 24 of 35
    Swordmaker to Swordmaker
    The Crossman C11 CO2 BB gun. . . European version without the orange tip:




    And the ridiculous looking orange tipped American version

    Now perhaps they bought the European version where they don't go in for such insanity. . .

  • Orangutan In Argentina Zoo Recognised By Court As 'Non-Human Person'

    12/21/2014 10:20:15 PM PST · 7 of 16
    Swordmaker to Steelfish

    I read, and re-read, the news article and did NOT find this was a New York court. . . and if it was I was trying to figure out exactly what jurisdiction a New York state or US Federal Court in New York would have on a Zoo in a South American country. Frankly, The New York and US citations were about cases brought by animal rights activists which were TOSSED OUT!

    Nowhere in the article was it stated exactly WHAT court made this inane ruling. . . and under what laws it could have made such a ruling. I have a BS meter pegged at about 95% on this story. First of all, how is “freeing” Sandra from one zoo “jail” to another sanctuary “jail” qualify as freedom for Sandra? Does she choose this residence? Does she then get to support herself? Does she get to qualify for Argentinian Social Security based on Orangutan retirement age? What are the other implications of this ruling?

  • Gun Control PSA Encourages Minor Delinquency (UNBELIEVABLE!)

    12/21/2014 10:07:37 PM PST · 21 of 35
    Swordmaker to MeatshieldActual

    Even if it is suborning misdemeanors, conspiracies to commit misdemeanors is a felony in and of itself. I saw one they did in the video itself. The “gun” the used is a Crossman C11 BB gun that they have removed the Orange barrel tip from or painted it out to make it look like a real gun. That is a crime in and of itself. . . at least a misdemeanor.

    So unless all these people in the credits just showed up and this video spontaneously got created without them planning it, they conspired in its creation to advocate that minors commit felonies . . . a crime. The conspired to modify a toy gun to look like a real gun, at least a misdemeanor. The conspired to bring a representation of a firearm onto a school grounds. . . a misdemeanor, and in some jurisdictions, a felony. The planned a burglary, a felony. They urged that other minors commit felonies. . . I’m not sure what level of crime that rises to. The minor carried a concealed weapon on a public conveyance, the school bus, multiple crimes. It is abhorrent what these Liberals did. . . and they will probably get away with it because they think they are above the law because their motives are pure. . . and the ends justify the means, you know.

  • Why Apple shouldn't be blamed for exploitation in China and Indonesia

    12/20/2014 7:20:31 PM PST · 15 of 29
    Swordmaker to Dr. Ursus; PIF; conservatism_IS_compassion; dayglored
    That’s a tub of stinky tofu.

    How the facts I posted "a tub of stinky tofu," Ursus? As a person educated as an Economist, I am not in the habit of posting data I cannot back up with facts or evidence.

    There were 18 suicides at FoxConn's 22 plants in 18 months. . . which would be one per month rate if they occurred regularly during that period, which of course they did not, being sporadic. FoxConn employed 750,000 workers from age 17 to 34 years old in those twenty-two plants in sixteen cities. One plant had a series of five suicides in about three months during the period in question. There were approximately 24 attempted suicides.

    However, the rate is FAR lower than the overall population of China in general (China's general population suicide rate is 22.23 per 100,000 per year — Source "China's suicide rate 'among highest in world' AFP News – Fri, Sep 9, 2011 through Yahoo News Singapore) and REALLY lower yet than the same age cohorts of 18 to 34 year olds which is even higher. (None of the suicides were over 28 or younger than 18).

    The rate would be 18/750,000 then adjusted to give a number per 100,000 per year. Since there are 750,000 employees, we must divide the number of suicides by 7.5 to get to the standard rate comparable 100,000, then that number by 12/18 or 2/3 to get to a single year, to compare Apples to Apples. Doing that 18 in 750K in 18 months becomes 2.4 per 100K in 18 months then it becomes ~1.6 in 100,000 in 12 months. . . a very low rate per 100,000.

    Hell, Dr. Ursus, the lowest suicide rate in the United States among the age cohort of 15 to 24 in 2012, which is the latest year for which there is complete data is available, was in California which had a rate of 7.4 per 100,000. The rate for the United States as a whole was 11.1 per 100,000. Suicidology.com Fact Sheet, 2012 States Total Elderly Young.

    So the news media got its panties in a wad about a suicide rate at FoxConn that was literally 1/7 the suicide rate of a similar group of young people in the United States. The reason was because it involved Apple . . . and hypocrisy. Talk about criticizing the mote in someone's eye when they ignore the huge log in their own.

    So, I repeat, Dr. Ursus, what is your point?

  • Why Apple shouldn't be blamed for exploitation in China and Indonesia

    12/20/2014 4:08:32 PM PST · 13 of 29
    Swordmaker to eyeamok
    Using Slave Labor is ok as long as we educate these people in the process and try to improve the conditions of the SLAVES.

    You are doing what is called "begging the question." No, that is not what Apple is doing. You do not improve the condition of workers by assuring they starve to death be assuring there is no work and therefor no income at all for them. . . and educate them about how they can improve their own lot.

  • Why Apple shouldn't be blamed for exploitation in China and Indonesia

    12/20/2014 4:00:51 PM PST · 12 of 29
    Swordmaker to central_va
    Gee Apple could open a factory in the USA and employ our citizens. But an I-phone would cost $624.00 retail instead of $600.00. Can’t have that.....

    Uh, no. . . try twice as much. The materials would have to be shipped here first and it is not just the assembly costs but manufacturing of many of the sub-assemblies and parts. . . not to mentioning the raw materials which are NOT, for the most part, mined anywhere near the United States.

    Apple DOES have factories in the USA, Assembling iMacs and MacPros. . . of which better than 80% of the parts are made here.

  • Why Apple shouldn't be blamed for exploitation in China and Indonesia

    12/20/2014 3:55:31 PM PST · 11 of 29
    Swordmaker to Dr. Ursus
    Plus,we use only the best material for our suicide nets.

    The suicide rate at FoxConn's manufacturing plants, among their 750,000 employees is 1/4 the rate of the same age groups in the Chinese population in general. . . and it is 1/2 the suicide rate of the same age groups of United States young people (18-28 years old) enrolled in the Ivy League schools such as Yale and Harvard. So, your point is of what value in this discussion?