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Posts by Tao Yin

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  • This Protestant Researched Marian Miracles, & What He Learned Blew His Mind

    04/06/2015 3:31:36 PM PDT · 218 of 253
    Tao Yin to omegatoo
    God the Father is God.
    Jesus is God.
    The Holy Spirit is God.

    They are all the same Person and always have been.

    Jesus is God the Father.
    Jesus is the Holy Spirit.
    The Holy Spirit is God the Father.

    Nice heresy. It's called Modalism, an "unorthodox belief that God is one person who has revealed himself in three forms or modes in contrast to the Trinitarian doctrine where God is one being eternally existing in three persons."

    The heresy was condemned by Dionysius, the bishop of Rome, around 259 AD in an epistle titled "Against the Sabellians".

    Anyone who believes this heresy can not rightly claim to be part of the church catholic. Check out Lutheran Satire, episode "St. Patrick's Bad Analogies" for more heresies about the trinity.

  • Six Early Christian Controversies That Protestantism Can't Explain

    04/06/2015 5:52:58 AM PDT · 62 of 196
    Tao Yin to ravenwolf
    “Where the bishop is present, there let the congregation gather, just as where Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church”.

    But Jesus said it a bit different. Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

    I don't disagree with either. In the LCMS, each church is independent. Every head pastor of a church is a bishop (overseer). All bishops are equal and have no authority over other bishops. You'll notice that in the qualifications for bishop, you'll never see subservience to Rome, the seat of Peter, or an unbroken line of succession back to the apostles.

    And the original quote does not use capital "C" Catholic, but lower case "c" catholic, which means universal. I love how Romanists take old quotes and capitalize a descriptive word to make them feel superior and justified.

  • This Protestant Researched Marian Miracles, & What He Learned Blew His Mind

    04/05/2015 4:56:14 PM PDT · 48 of 253
    Tao Yin to Gluteus Maximus
    Martin Luther on Mary and Idolotry...

    Furthermore, how will you endure [the Romanists'] terrible idolatries? It was not enough that they venerated the saints and praised God in them, but they actually made them into gods. They put that noble child, the mother Mary, right into the place of Christ. They fashioned Christ into a judge and thus devised a tyrant for anguished consciences, so that all comfort and confidence was transferred from Christ to Mary, and then everyone turned from Christ to his particular saint. Can anyone deny this? Is it not true?

  • In Summation: Does any Church or Council possess infallibility or did Jesus alone possess this?

    03/30/2015 9:33:12 AM PDT · 29 of 84
    Tao Yin to MeshugeMikey
    the fallable are incapable of proving infallabilty

    You nailed it! The Roman Catholic Church says it can speak infallible, but they don't have an infallible list of when they've spoken infallibly.

  • Why I'm Catholic: Ex-London Gangster, John Pridmore, Returns to the Faith

    03/30/2015 7:11:16 AM PDT · 65 of 119
    Tao Yin to verga
    Paul never asked Mary what to do....nor did Peter, James, Luke, Matthew, Timothy, Stephen, etc, etc, etc.

    How do you know? Seriously how do you know? And before you make the stock prot answer of: "The Bible never mentions....." There is a lot things the Bible never mentions, Like how many pairs of Sandals did Paul have? What color were Peter's eyes? How tall was Stephen? etc...

    Exactly the point. "These things are written so that you might believe." Sandals, eye color, height: not important so it wasn't mentioned. The apostles asking Mary for advice or to pray for them? Either it never happened or it wasn't important enough to mention. We are supposed to pray for one another. That's important and that is written.

  • Do Catholics and Muslims worship the same God?

    03/28/2015 5:26:12 AM PDT · 93 of 177
    Tao Yin to ebb tide
    Also, Please, Don’t Call Protestants Christians

    What a waste of time reading. Those are the worst Bible verse supports ever. Very weak.

  • Which Compilations of New Testament Scripture Were Inspired By God and Which Weren't?

    03/28/2015 5:18:11 AM PDT · 17 of 38
    Tao Yin to Steve_Seattle
    the letters of Clement of Rome

    I can maybe understand wanting to include the first letter of Clement, but the second was not written by Clement and is pure propaganda.

  • Is the church a pillar & pedestal of truth?

    03/25/2015 3:36:04 PM PDT · 13 of 32
    Tao Yin to RnMomof7
    Regarding Peter and the church, Galatians 2 is food for thought.

    Peter "stood condemned" because his "conduct was not in step with the truth of the gospel". Because of the actions of Peter and the other Jews, "even Barnabas was led astray".

    Should we just accept anything we hear in church as the truth? How can we measure or verify what we hear? Should we just follow our betters without question?

  • What I Wish I’d Known About Catholics (And Why I’m Becoming One Now That I Do)

    03/21/2015 12:14:23 PM PDT · 134 of 240
    Tao Yin to Syncro
    Catholics do not have to be 'taught' that, they are just doing what they observe others of their faith doing.

    Don't forget about the artwork in the churches, such as Jesus kneeling before Mary placing a crown on her head.

  • Starbucks CEO asks baristas to talk about race relations with customers as part of 'Race Together...

    03/17/2015 8:40:43 AM PDT · 16 of 107
    Tao Yin to PROCON
    I hope they have the song "Racist Coffee" on repeat.

    His coffee's black
    His coffee's white
    But we drink it both ways
    Cause it's alright

  • The Fireproof Martin Luther

    03/17/2015 6:35:11 AM PDT · 23 of 45
    Tao Yin to WayneS
    He was a human being. He would have burned.

    Much to the sixteenth-century papacy delight.

  • Calvin contra Rome on Scripture (Part 1)

    03/16/2015 10:30:31 AM PDT · 22 of 69
    Tao Yin to paladinan
    For my part, I should not believe the Gospel except as moved by the authority of the Catholic Church. So when those on whose authority I have consented to believe in the Gospel tell me not to believe in Manichæus, how can I but consent?" (St. Augustine, "Against the Fundamental Epistle of Manichaeus"; 5,6)

    Luther answers your Augustine quote...

    Even if Augustine had used those words, who gave him authority, that we must believe what he says? What Scripture does he quote to prove the statement? What if he erred here, as we know that he frequently did, as did all the fathers? Should one single sentence of Augustine be so mighty as to refute all the texts quoted above [Luther had quoted a variety of texts proving the supreme authority of Scripture]? That is not what God wills; St. Augustine must yield to them.

  • Which Bible do you believe to be the true Bible - the Protestant, the Roman Catholic, or the Coptic?

    03/14/2015 7:29:40 AM PDT · 63 of 108
    Tao Yin to metmom
    So tell me what’s in the added Apocrypha that we need to know that’s not in the rest of the OT?

    There are three things primarily: purgatory, praying for the dead, and the treasury of merit.

    The treasury of merit is particularly interesting. It contains the merit of Jesus and the other saints who have a surplus. In particular, monks who separated themselves from the work and spent their time praying and doing other 'holy' things, were able to earn heaven and build up a surplus of merit that would help others who didn't have enough merit to earn heaven. Or something like that...

  • Increasing Number of Lutherans Are Coming Into The Catholic Church

    03/13/2015 1:59:15 PM PDT · 48 of 85
    Tao Yin to Steelfish
    Have you read the document from the Council of Trent?

    And it has thought it meet that a list of the sacred books be inserted in this decree, lest a doubt may arise in any one's mind

    If the canon of scripture had already been set with infallible Pertine authority, why would there be a doubt?

    None of the councils you listed were ecumenical. We do not know the original statement from Pope Damasus because it was edited several times.

    Before Trent, there was no infallible Petrine authority about the canon of scripture. I agree that were wasn't any great debate about most of the books, but for the qualifications of infallible according to the Roman Catholic Church (Pope speaking ex cathedra or an ecumenical council), you would have to point to Trent.

  • Increasing Number of Lutherans Are Coming Into The Catholic Church

    03/13/2015 11:19:38 AM PDT · 34 of 85
    Tao Yin to Steelfish
    the books in the Bible were assembled by infallible Petrine authority

    Such a tired line. You do realize that the Roman Catholic New Testament wasn't settled with infallible Pertine authority until the council of Trent, which opened in 1545 and wasn't accepted by the Pope until 1564. You know this right?

    Even New Advent acknowledged this by stating, "The Catholic New Testament, as defined by the Council of Trent".

    Before Trent, the Roman Catholic Church has never made an infallible Pertine decree about the canon. What about the council of Rome in 382? eclectic, but not ecumenical, so it wasn't infallible and wasn't universally binding.

    Sure, there were plenty of people who gave their opinion, but it never met the criteria to be considered infallible. The protestant reformation begin 47 years before the Roman Catholic Church determined canon with infallible Petrine authority.

  • Increasing Number of Lutherans Are Coming Into The Catholic Church

    03/13/2015 6:58:47 AM PDT · 29 of 85
    Tao Yin to RobbyS
    if he had been put to death as Huss was

    Ah, the good old days when the Roman Catholic Church could burn heretics or maybe saw them in half. Sigh. What's become of the world...

  • From Rome to Christ

    03/10/2015 6:56:47 AM PDT · 67 of 138
    Tao Yin to verga
    If the prot god is not powerful enough to create a sinless individual the prots need a more powerful God. Try the Christian/ Catholic God

    Please tell me you see the irony in your statement?

    I'll give a hint. If God can create Mary any way he pleases, why would he need a special set of circumstances for Jesus?

    Or put another way "What does God need with a starship?"

  • The Catholic Church Opposes the Death Penalty. Why Don't White Catholics?

    03/09/2015 11:13:37 AM PDT · 71 of 107
    Tao Yin to PapaNew
    So it is OK to support unjust acts because we live in a sinful world? Something wrong there. We're supposed to shine lights in the darkness, not applaud and support the darkness.

    Though shalt not commit murder, does not mean though shall not kill. Murder is an unjust act and darkness. Killing may be just, depending on the situation. The state does have the sword for a reason.

  • Why We Baptize Babies (The Case for Infant Baptism) [Conservative Lutheran position]

    03/08/2015 8:48:22 AM PDT · 116 of 200
    Tao Yin to Mr Rogers
    In 1 Corinthians 1:17, Paul states that “Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel,” thus clearly differentiating the gospel from baptism.

    Those passages are difficult to understand if water baptism is necessary for salvation.

    Back up to verse 13 and 14...

    1 Corinthians 13 [...] Or were you baptized in the name of Paul? 14 I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius,

    The people were all baptized, just not by Paul. Paul preached about baptism, but he rarely performed the baptisms. Where's the controvery?

  • Conversion from Roman Catholicism to Biblical Christianity

    03/03/2015 7:37:25 AM PST · 63 of 167
    Tao Yin to Not gonna take it anymore
    For God so loved the world he sent a book.

    For God so loved the world, he sent his only Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

    These things are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God.

  • Conversion from Roman Catholicism to Biblical Christianity

    03/03/2015 7:34:31 AM PST · 62 of 167
    Tao Yin to Not gonna take it anymore
    For God so loved the world he sent a book.

    For God so loved the world he sent Mary and Peter.

  • Faith Alone v. Forgiving Trespasses: How the Lord's Prayer Contradicts the Reformation

    02/26/2015 1:03:20 PM PST · 255 of 439
    Tao Yin to Salvation
    The Our Father. Do you say it?

    I too prefer the title "Our Father" rather than the "Lord's Prayer". I say it several times a week.

    Regarding the Our Father, Luther's small catechism addresses the fifth petition with the following explanation.

    And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us.

    What does this mean?

    We pray in this petition that our Father in heaven would not look upon our sins, nor deny such petitions on account of them; for we are worthy of none of the things for which we pray, neither have we deserved them; but that He would grant them all to us by grace; for we daily sin much, and indeed deserve nothing but punishment. So will we verily, on our part, also heartily forgive and also readily do good to those who sin against us.

    Before this thread, I've heard people claim that the fifth petition is an example of works righteousness. Claiming that we gain forgiveness only after forgiving others. I thought it was silly idea then, just as I do now.

    I would ask, why do we forgive others? So that we can earn forgiveness for ourselves? No! We forgive because we were forgiven first and our forgiveness of others is an outpouring of the new man.

    Works righteousness is a stain that perverts everything it touches. It changes our natural response to God into a qualification to earn his grace.

  • How We Got the Bible

    02/25/2015 7:23:10 AM PST · 84 of 284
    Tao Yin to NKP_Vet
    “To be deep in history is to cease being a protestant”.

    ~ Cardinal John Henry Newman, Catholic Convert, FORMER PROTESTANT

    If you actually read Newman, you'll see his complex theory of doctrinal development. He acknowledges that current Roman Catholic doctrines and practices are different than the early church. He argues that the current doctrine and practices were "hidden" in the early church. These hidden elements were brought out over time under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

    If you accept Newman's view, you must accept that the early church had an incomplete faith. You may want to champion "doctrinal development", but I do not.

    Inventing the word "trinity" to explain a belief is one thing. Inventing the supremacy of the pope among all bishops is quite another.

  • Divinum Officium: Whoever does not embrace the Catholic Christian religion will be damned

    02/20/2015 7:31:02 AM PST · 91 of 244
    Tao Yin to Repent and Believe
    Please consider these sources, then ask if there is any remote possibility that the Vatican II Council was itself heretical:

    Ah, you make the common mistake of non-Catholics. You must accept that you are not capable of understanding the Bible or the Catholic's teachings about the Bible. There is no discrepancy between the Bible and the Catholic's teaching. There is no discrepancy between the Catholic's teaching of yesterday and today. Everything is consistent and perfect.

    If you don't agree, then you don't properly understand the Catholic's teaching, which is entirely possible since you are not qualified to understand it anyway.

  • Martin Luther Playmobil Toy is Fastest-Selling of All Time

    02/13/2015 7:42:14 AM PST · 25 of 112
    Tao Yin to SpaceBar
    Yup. Biggest anti-semite before Adolf Hitler came on the scene.

    That's just rude and false. Perhaps a refresher from Martin Luther's small catechism.

    The Eighth Commandment
        Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

    What does this mean?
        We should fear and love God that we may not deceitfully belie, betray, slander, or defame our neighbor, but defend him, [think and] speak well of him, and put the best construction on everything.

  • Ten Things Every Catholic Should Know About Sola Scriptura

    02/12/2015 3:28:28 PM PST · 57 of 484
    Tao Yin to NYer
    He instructs us to "stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter" (2 Thess. 2:15).

    Sigh. Yes, but "us" does not mean what you think it means. "us" does not mean the Roman Catholic Church, "us" means the apostles, as in the original apostles.

    This is why, when the canon was created, only books written by the apostles and their direct students were included. If the "us" meant the current apostles and all future generations of apostles, the creation of the canon would have used different criteria.

    Besides, if the verse meant what you imply, it would have been written differently, such as instead of "which you were taught by us" would have been written "which you are taught by us and our successors" or something more explicit, all inclusive, and far reaching.

    Besides, beside, how do you reconcile Galatians 1:8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed? How are we to judge the preaching of the gospel without a normative rule to measure against?

    Besides, besides, besides, if the "us" in 2 Thess 2:15 is the Roman Catholic Church, then the "we" in Gal 1:8 is also the Roman Catholic Church. If this is so, why does the Roman Catholic Church says that we have no need to judge or evaluate their preaching, simply accepts that they can not err? The original apostles said to watch out for those who preach a different gospel, even themselves or angels. The Roman Catholic Church says, don't worry, just accepts what we say. Big difference.

  • Ten Things Every Catholic Should Know About Sola Scriptura

    02/12/2015 3:08:48 PM PST · 43 of 484
    Tao Yin to FatherofFive
    Sola Scriptura which means “Scripture Alone” cannot be found in the Bible.

    I keep asking this question. Never get an answer.

    We see with our own preconceptions. The early churches were encouraged to read the letters of the apostles and to trade their letters between them. Colossians 4:16, 1 Thessalonians 5:27, 1 Timothy 4:13, Revelation 1:3.

    Even in the scriptures themselves, we see that the early churches had some of the new testament scriptures already.

    Now if you believe the present Roman Catholic Church has the same authority as the apostles, then no additional verses I show will mean anything. But consider the qualification for inclusion into the Bible canon. One qualification was that the book had to be written by a apostles or a direct student. If full authority passed from apostles to the next generation of apostles, why was this limitation imposed?

    2 Thessalonians 2:15 So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by our spoken word or by our letter.

    Galatians 1:9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.

    Now with your preconceptions, if the current Roman Catholic Church has apostolic teaching authority, then neither of the above verses mean anything. But if we are to stand firm in the apostolic teaching, why did the creators of the canon limit the apostolic scriptures to the writings of the apostles and their direct students?

  • Ten Things Every Catholic Should Know About Sola Scriptura

    02/12/2015 2:31:33 PM PST · 14 of 484
    Tao Yin to NYer
    6. How could sola Scriptura be the only way for people to know God when, for most of history, the majority of people could neither read nor have access to books?

    This is very poor reasoning. The scriptures were read in church since the beginning. The various churches copied each others letters and passed them around. That was one of the qualifications for inclusion in the Bible canon. Any book added to the canon had to have a history of being read in the churches.

    Besides, Sola Scriptura does not mean that illiterate people can't know God.

  • Sola Historia?

    02/09/2015 3:46:20 PM PST · 55 of 416
    Tao Yin to FatherofFive
    Where is Sola Scriptura in Scripture? Cite Chapter and verse.

    2 Thessalonians 2:15 So then, brothers and sisters, stand firm and hold fast to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.

    I am part of an apostolic church. A church founded by the apostles. When the scripture canon was set, they had several criteria.

    1. Written by a recognized prophet or apostle
    2. Written by those associated with recognized prophet or apostle
    3. Truthfulness
    4. Faithfulness to previously accepted canonical writings
    5. Confirmed by Christ, prophet, apostle
    6. Church Usage and Recognition

    A sensible list of criteria, used by Christians, to establish a canon. The interesting part is number 2) "Written by those associated with recognized prophet or apostle". This is direct relation, direct supervision, and direct connection. They only allowed one step. Someone who was directly taught by an apostle.

    The council that established canon understood 2 Thessalonians 2:15 to apply directly to apostles or those directly under the apostles. Why should I trust the Roman Catholic Church that the correct interpretation of 2 Thessalonians 2:15 applies to them today?

    I can not hear the words of the apostles or their direct students for myself except through the scripture. I will stand firm and hold fast to the apostolic teachings.

    If you ask how I can know that the scripture is sufficient, I will cite John 20:30 Now Jesus did many other signs in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book; 31 but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

    Jesus did a lot that was not recorded, but "these things are written." Self explanatory.

    Why would we use scripture canon as a rule? Galatians 1:8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. Why should the Roman Catholic Church get a pass if even angels should be measured by the confirmed apostolic teaching.

  • 5 questions and the 5 solas

    02/07/2015 11:05:38 AM PST · 16 of 283
    Tao Yin to Salvation
    Luther added the word “alone” to one of St. Paul’s writings

    This is propaganda. There were other translations before Luther that had the word "alone" in the verse.

  • The Gospel According to Church History (PART 6)

    02/06/2015 3:11:18 PM PST · 14 of 47
    Tao Yin to paladinan
    anyone who asserts that salvation can be present without any sort of good work at all ..., while still attaining salvation, [is] mistaken

    Very true. I like the phrase "faith that works."

    Interesting to read about Pelagianism. I'm happy to be catholic, while not being Catholic.

  • The Gospel According to Church History (PART 6)

    02/06/2015 2:06:46 PM PST · 12 of 47
    Tao Yin to paladinan
    Honestly: if someone says, “Faith alone saves, but that faith will be a false [non-saving] faith without good works”, isn’t that what logicians call “a distinction without a difference”?

    I saw this on a related thread and it sums up the distinction nicely. Can you see the difference between these two?

    Faith = Salvation + Works

    Faith + Works = Salvation

    In both cases, without works the equations fail. In the first equation, without works, there wasn't True Faith. In the second equation, without works, you haven't earned salvation.

  • The Gospel According to History

    02/05/2015 8:12:42 AM PST · 5 of 92
    Tao Yin to editor-surveyor
    Grace giving Faith that produces works!

    Or put another way...

    By grace, through faith, for works.

  • The Immaculate Conception in Scripture

    02/04/2015 1:39:36 PM PST · 23 of 154
    Tao Yin to GeronL
    I have no hostility at all toward Mary, she just is not a very big part of my Christian religion.

    The church is built on the prophets and apostles, with Jesus as the chief cornerstone. If Mary is neither prophet nor apostle, she is not part of the foundation and has no part in salvation other than being the God-bearer, the mother of Jesus. She is most definitely part of the Christian creed, but only as a fulfillment of prophesy - "born of the virgin Mary".

  • 5 Saints Who Totally Had Superpowers

    01/28/2015 4:52:28 PM PST · 96 of 167
    Tao Yin to GBA
    >> Satan quoted as "eat or touch and you will die"

    >I've not found this in the Bible. What I found is Genesis 3:1-7:

    My apologies, my aim was off. It was Eve who misquoted God about the touching in Genesis 3:3. Before that, the snake's misquote was in Genesis 3:1 "Did God really say, 'You must not eat from any tree in the garden'?". Satan misquoted God and then Eve corrected the misquote, but misquoted God herself.

    It makes me wonder with Adam and Eve, who added the touching restriction. Did Adam add the restriction when he taught Eve? Did Eve add the restriction when she was challenged by the snake?

    Satan tried the same tactic with Jesus, but Jesus defended himself by correctly quoting and interpreting the scriptures.

    Catechism in the true faith is important.

    About the rest of my logic, I am not impressed with reports of miracles and wonders. I understand the faith and would not change my mind because of a miracle.

    With my cynical nature, I would be more likely to think a miracle was demonic in order to lead me away. What need does faith have of miracles? Doubting Thomas needed to see and touch, but blessed are those who don't see and still believe.

  • 5 Saints Who Totally Had Superpowers

    01/28/2015 11:29:44 AM PST · 74 of 167
    Tao Yin to GBA
    Does God still do miracles and use the least among us to demonstrate His Glory, Power and Grace or was that just back in the OT and NT times and not in our times?

    Miracles may or may not happen today. God works as He wills.

    If God still is in the miracle business, what do you suppose happens to those who, for whatever reason or motivation, call the work of God the work of Satan?

    This is irrelevant. We are all sinners and imperfect. If we are clothed in Jesus' righteousness, we are forgiven. If not, we are condemned.

    Why would Satan do miracles that people then believe are proof of God and strengthen their faith and belief in God?

    Ah, that's the rub. Satan would do miracles to draw us away from God. He wouldn't have to make a major change, just a slight addition is enough. Even the snake in the garden quoted God, but with a slight addition. God said "eat and you will die". Satan quoted as "eat or touch and you will die". Something can seem like it is from God, but the slight change or small addition makes a world of difference.

    Seems like that would work against him and his own interests. Why would Satan do that?

    Satan doesn't work to increase faith in God. He works to twist and pervert. He adds small little bits and slowly whittles away at the core, until only the little bits are left and the core is lost.

  • 5 Saints Who Totally Had Superpowers

    01/28/2015 7:28:24 AM PST · 61 of 167
    Tao Yin to firebrand
    Jesus told his disciples that they would be able to do the miracles that he did, and even greater ones. That is in the Bible, so Bible believers take note.

    2 Thessalonians 2:9 The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, 10 and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, 12 in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

    Signs and wonders are not the test of truth. The church builds on the firm foundation which is the prophets, apostles, with Jesus as the corner stone. New revelations, secret teachings, and miracles have nothing to do with truth.

  • Christian unity demands encounter – not theory, says Pope

    01/27/2015 10:39:04 AM PST · 55 of 87
    Tao Yin to Al Hitan
    Where in Scripture does it say Satan deceived Eve by "adding to the scripture".

    Genesis 3:3 "You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die."

    God never mentioned touching leading to death.

  • Queens of Heaven. Mary and Kuantan Yin

    01/26/2015 9:31:42 AM PST · 167 of 205
    Tao Yin to Steelfish
    Because it’s not explicitly stated in the Bible, to hell with the oral traditions even though the John writes in 21: 25

    Nothing wrong with oral tradition if it doesn't negate the written word. We know that Jesus did many things not written in the Bible. That's obvious, but if you turn John back one chapter you'd find this.

    John 20: 30 Now Jesus did many other signs in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book; 31 but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

    It seems pretty clear that the recorded history is sufficient. The written record is traced back to the teaching of the apostles. The oral tradition is only said to be traced back to the apostles' teaching.

    Additionally, if there were any details that were required for salvation that were not written down, don't you think someone would have written them down as soon as possible? I have no faith in hear-say that was passed down for hundreds of years before anyone bothered to write it down.

  • Mary Matters (Dr. Walter Martin on disbelief in the Mother of God)

    01/25/2015 9:22:11 AM PST · 318 of 1,924
    Tao Yin to don-o
    Are you familiar with the Third Ecumenical Council? Would you have identified with Nestorius? Do you agree or disagree with his beliefs?

    Mary is called the Theotokos. This is properly translated as God-bearer. Mother of God is a poor translation choice.

    Mary is the God-bearer because Jesus is one person and not divided. The title Theotokos is important because of what is says about Jesus, and not what it says about Mary.

    Mother of God is a poor translation because it starts with the mother, while God-bearer is the proper translation because it starts with God.

    The council of Chalcedon includes the following the Virgin Mary, the Theotokos, as regards his manhood.

    So Mary is the God-bearer because she bore the manhood of Jesus. The Mother of God nonsense is tiresome. It is used an an honorific to increase the prestige of Mary, when the origin title Theotokos was to acknowledge the true nature of Jesus.

    It's not about Mary, it's about Jesus.

  • But Contemporary Worship Brings People To Jesus! Right…?

    01/22/2015 7:31:30 AM PST · 21 of 33
    Tao Yin to buffaloguy
    The contemporary hymns you hear today in church are the future of worship music.

    I hope not. It's not the style of music that is the problem, it's the content. The best hymns can be described as little sermons. They incorporate scripture directly and contain an orthodox message with a complete thought.

    The new contemporary hymns contain a touchy feely message that seems more disconnected from Biblical content than the traditional hymns.

    One contemporary song that comes to mind. "I love you Lord and I lift my voice. To worship you, oh my Lord rejoice. Take joy my King in what you hear. Let it be a sweet, sweet sound in Your ear."

    The song has a soothing melody, but only one doctrinal note. The problem may stem from musicians writing the songs rather than theologians.

    One of my favorite hymns is "A mighty fortress" by Martin Luther. It's such a great hymn that even the Roman Catholic Church includes this song in their hymnal.

  • Faith is not alone, Scripture is not alone, Grace is not alone. We ought not separate what God...

    01/16/2015 8:36:19 AM PST · 12 of 164
    Tao Yin to Salvation
    Well then, where is the truth to be found? The Scriptures once again answer this: you should know how to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of truth (1 Tim 3:15).

    Again! Can Catholics never read things in context? If we read both verse 14 and 15 "I am writing you these instructions so that ... you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household".

    How in the world can you promote a verse as proof that truth in found in the church when the verse states that the written letter is instruction for conduct in the church?

    I agree the truth is found in the true church, but how do you get from "follow what I write" to "follow what the church says"? They are opposed unless the church follows the written word. And this is the meaning of sola scriptura. The scripture is the rule. The church is to follow the rule. The church is not the rule. The church is not the true church unless it follows the rule.

  • 12 Claims Every Catholic Should Be Able to Answer: Claim #7

    01/14/2015 2:27:57 PM PST · 40 of 60
    Tao Yin to CynicalBear
    Why does the Catholic Church twist scripture like that? It does NOT say interpretation of scripture. It says interpretation of prophecy.

    I've never been able to read a scripture verse that the Roman Catholic Church quotes and see the same thing.

    2 Peter 1:20-21 is very clear. It states that the prophesies in the scriptures were written by the will of the Holy Spirit and not through the will or understanding of man.

    20 Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things. 21 For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

  • 12 Claims Every Catholic Should Be Able to Answer: Claim #5

    01/11/2015 3:10:11 PM PST · 21 of 177
    Tao Yin to NYer
    that Jesus gives His apostles the power to forgive sins. Of course, they wouldn't know which sins to forgive if they weren't told what sins were involved.

    That's very weird. There are many examples were Jesus forgives sins and never asks for a laundry list. The apostles learned from Jesus, so they would follow his example.

    I can hear the rationalization that Jesus knew the sins because he is God, so he didn't need to be told, but if a laundry list was so important to forgive sins, then why isn't there a clear statement of this prerequisite?

    Additionally, if the apostles can only forgive sins that have been enumerated, then they would leave some of the sins unforgiven? Just weird.

    Every week, we practice public confession and absolution. Private confession and absolution is available, but not a prerequisite for forgiveness.

  • Yes, There is Evidence God Exists

    12/23/2014 10:05:10 AM PST · 14 of 79
    Tao Yin to redleghunter
    Let's not forget Occam's razor. The simplest explanation is preferable. Saying that healing is proof of God is silly. By the same reasoning, you could say that healing is proof that people from the future with advanced healing technology, time travel, and cloaking fields traveled back in time and secretly healed you all the while staying invisible.

    I do believe in God, but I find the rational gymnastics that searches for proof of God to be tiring and silly. I have faith because I heard the word and the holy spirit moved.

  • Women theologians are 'the strawberry on the cake', says Pope Francis

    12/11/2014 11:42:02 AM PST · 31 of 33
    Tao Yin to hinckley buzzard
    The idea that there is a particular "female genius" which grasps truths about the Creator that elude men, strikes me as ideological contamination.

    Yeah for "Wifios". Women's insightful female interpretation of scripture.

  • All Animals Go To Heaven, Says Pope Francis

    12/11/2014 8:57:00 AM PST · 86 of 212
    Tao Yin to null and void
    Would Christian heaven be Heaven without our pet dogs?

    Old Twilight Zone episode. After a man dies, he meets his dog. Walks down a road and meets a man at the gates of heaven, but the dog doesn't like the gatekeeper. The gatekeeper says heaven is open to the man, but not his dog. The man takes a pass because his dog isn't allowed. He keeps walking down the path and find the real heaven where the dog is allowed and lives happily ever after.

  • Pope Francis: I seek communion with Orthodox Churches

    12/01/2014 6:45:20 AM PST · 32 of 33
    Tao Yin to wildandcrazyrussian
    Obviously, and it all has to do to with the addition BY the Roman Catholic Church of the “filioque” to the original Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed (AD 325 / 381). As soon as the RC Church drops that changed doctrine, we can talk of other things.

    I thought it was more the way the filioque was added rather than the addition itself.

  • Why is Pope Francis blind to Germany's rich and porn producing bishops?

    11/07/2014 2:52:15 PM PST · 9 of 35
    Tao Yin to ebb tide
    Marx - Germany's New Luther?

    If by Luther, you mean the anti-Luther, then sure.

    Marx says the church's doctrine "can develop over time."

    Luther says the church's doctrine should be in agreement with the inspired word of God.

    See the difference?

  • Sources of the Protestant Devolution

    11/06/2014 7:39:21 PM PST · 136 of 450
    Tao Yin to Biggirl
    In other words, THANK the RCC for giving to the world the Holy Bible.

    I've never understood this claim. The apostolic letters were written to various churches. The churches shared their letters with other churches. Why thank the RCC?

    Paul's letters were available in a collected form by the end of the 1st century. This was the work of Christians. No one was waiting for the RCC to come along and put their seal of approval. The Christians were reading the words of the apostles, as commanded by the apostles.

    Moses received the 10 commandments directly from God, but we don't see him taking credit for their writing or proclaiming himself as the final authority. The RCC received the books of the Bible from the various churches who received them from the apostles. The RCC didn't receive the books of the Bible directly from God or even directly from the apostles. Why thank the RCC?