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  • Bp. Thomas Doran (D. Rockford) on kneeling for Holy Communion… heh heh… (CATHOLIC CAUCUS)

    10/01/2011 6:29:45 AM PDT · 9 of 10
    VidMihi to ExtremeUnction
    If they believed in what Jesus intended when he said “this is my body” , then they should come more often, thus getting you to Mass too.
  • Vienna Archbishop Won't be Able to Prevent Division

    09/03/2011 6:41:41 AM PDT · 8 of 21
    VidMihi to marshmallow
    History fully supports a married priesthood. For the first 1200 years of the Church’s existence, priests, bishops and 39 popes were married. Celibacy existed in the first century among hermits and monks, but it was considered an optional, alternative lifestyle.

    The effort to consolidate church power in the medieval hierarchy and to seize the land assets the married priest families saw its victory in 1139. The legislation that effectively ended optional celibacy for priests came from the Second Lateran Council under Pope Innocent II Many have argued that the true motivation for these laws was the desire to acquire land throughout Europe and strengthen the papal power base. The laws demanding mandatory celibacy for priests used the language of purity and holiness,, following the example of monks (many of whom probably enjoyed a gay lifestyle).

    Was the intent ministry or control? Many historians argue that the true intent was to solidify control over the lower clergy and eliminate any challenge to the political objectives of the medieval hierarchy. Few would argue that a married clergy would be much harder for the bishops to control today, but the question is which is more important the spread of the Gospel and ministry to the people of God or control ?

    One brave man, the Italian bishop Ulric of Imola, argued that the hierarchy had no right to forbid marriage to priests and urged bishops and priests not to abandon their families. Bishop Ulrich said that, “When celibacy is imposed, priests will commit sins far worse than fornication.” The recent number of highly publicized convictions of priests involved in sexual misconduct have given credence to good Bishop Ulric

  • Meet The U.S.’s Largest Ordination Class

    06/01/2011 5:39:52 AM PDT · 4 of 6
    VidMihi to marshmallow

    While all would welcome the newly ordained priests, we are naive if we do not see a problem here in the paucity of American born ( and more specifically locally born) priests. Ideally the priests should come from the people not imported from elsewhere.

  • Pfleger Watches Sunday Mass From Background

    05/03/2011 8:24:15 AM PDT · 11 of 19
    VidMihi to OldNavyVet
    Note how these Christians love one another. Herein lies true scandal. Yet some of these will dare to receive communion. It has been well asked “what would constitute unworthy participation more than doing so while anathematizing one’s fellow Christians”
  • Nebraska bishop: politicians [and] Planned Parenthood [no] Communion [Catholic Caucus]

    04/15/2011 2:49:41 PM PDT · 14 of 15
    VidMihi to Emperor Palpatine; steve86; AnAmericanMother; ViLaLuz; STJPII; Salvation; Robwin
    Considering that Jesus said something about a great commandment being “Thou shalt love thy neighbor” and St. Paul taught that those who eat and drink of the body and blood of Christ unworthily are guilty of “profaning the body and blood” what would constitute unworthy participation more than doing so while anathematizing one’s fellow Christians?
  • Pfleger Blames Conservatives, NRA for Troubles

    04/13/2011 6:59:45 AM PDT · 28 of 30
    VidMihi to kearnyirish2; marsh-mellow; Biggirl
    Biggirl is correct. I think the point is that those who are so dogmatic and absolute about what OTHERS should do, ought to be pretty precise and accurate about their own positions and statements. Know what you are talking about before you tell others what they should do or should not do.
  • Pfleger Blames Conservatives, NRA for Troubles

    04/12/2011 7:23:11 AM PDT · 22 of 30
    VidMihi to Salvation

    Learn your religion. Diocesan priests take no vows.

  • Santa Fe archbishop: No Communion for cohabitating couples

    04/08/2011 9:22:41 AM PDT · 21 of 31
    VidMihi to surroundedbyblue
    We used to say ‘ Lord I am not worthy “ before Communion. The Eucharist was considered “Bread for healing “

    What is it now - Only us good boys and girls get it
    and who judges the consciences of those approaching the table of the Lord.?

  • Father John Corapi and the State of Due Process for Accused Priests [Catholic caucus]

    04/04/2011 1:33:47 PM PDT · 15 of 34
    VidMihi to wideawake
    Considering the quality of our current crop of bishops, the arbitrary and autocratic manner some of them exercise their authority, the disregard for any concern for Justice (guilty or not, he is guilty) which you seem to allow given the bishop's absolute canonical authority in his diocese, why would a lapsed Catholic even think twice about “coming home” to such a sick organization.
  • 21 priests suspended by Philadelphia Archdiocese for pedophilia

    03/09/2011 6:14:07 AM PST · 30 of 146
    VidMihi to Ghost of Philip Marlowe
    Agree totally. However rather than making assumptions, there should be full truth telling, without regard to political correctness.

    Let’s all learn a new word - ephebophilia — sex with post-pubescent young people, almost always males — priests are rarely guilty of pedophilia except in the subset - ephebophilia - Which may point to a dominant “gay subculture“ in the celibate Catholic Priesthood, which just might be a good argument for the return to active ministry of heterosexual married priests.

  • Irish Priests Claim New Mass Translation is ‘Elitist and Sexist’

    02/07/2011 8:32:34 AM PST · 17 of 24
    VidMihi to marshmallow
    I think you may be very correct when you say: A small, vocal minority determines the agenda and imposes its ideology on the silent majority who are either too apathetic or too afraid to counter it.

    That small, vocal and powerful minority, many of them vatican bureaucrats with little or no pastoral experience send out directives to submissive bishops who are concerned more about their careers and neither listen to nor care about their priests who struggle in parishes.

  • Young Benedict questioned priestly celibacy

    01/31/2011 7:09:41 AM PST · 40 of 88
    VidMihi to GCC Catholic
    Control, control, control.

    Besides the gay priests do not want married men and their wives snooping around.

  • A New Leader Confronts Catholics’ Disaffection {Catholic/Orthodox Caucus}

    11/23/2010 6:53:33 AM PST · 33 of 47
    VidMihi to kosta50
    It seems to me that Jesus said “preach the Gospel to all, baptize all “ . Is it not strange that the Code of Canon Law is longer than the New Testament. Is the Church to announce the Good News or to enforce a body of law? I strongly suspect you will find the reason so many no longer participate in our faith community in the various comments in these posts. Attitudes like do it my way because my way is the Church's way ( is it really? ) or get out. Check with those who are so arrogant about being right and ask if their own children and other family members go to Church. Are not many gone because we have driven them away?
  • Harry Potter is Dangerous for Both You and Your Children

    11/22/2010 11:09:10 AM PST · 61 of 354
    VidMihi to mlizzy
    Fr. Casimir is the one who is dangerous. Who would want to belong to a religion that believes what he believes.
  • Catholics Can't Vote for Pro-Abort Politicians: Cardinal-Designate Burke

    10/30/2010 1:15:09 PM PDT · 55 of 103
    VidMihi to Mrs. Don-o
    Is it not time that we begin to teach why abortion is wrong, in stead of demonizing those with who we do not agree. Something about honey catching more flys. Remain friends, explain calmly, try to understand their position, and then point by point discuss. Even if you still end up not in agreement, end as friends so you can try again another day. Burke's record in St. Louis is not the greatest in calm logical non-authoritive dialogue. I doubt that his tran-ocean comments help matters. Roman bureaucrats do well to remain in Rome.
  • Eight Reasons Why Men Only Should Serve at Mass [Catholic Caucus]

    10/22/2010 6:25:20 AM PDT · 25 of 36
    VidMihi to pbear8
    Where are all the feminists? Why has not the war begun?

    You are right. Unless the boys have been feminized or forced, they, at that age, do not want to be a part of a group that eventually become predominantly female. The same thing is true of what used to be patrol boys as school crossing guards, etc.

    Altar boys were the chief source of vocations to the priesthood. They saw not only the liturgy but many other aspects of the life of the priest as they "helped out" around the parish. Until the gays took over and changed everything, many heterosexual priests left, and women began to run things, there were strong vocations. Now look at the mess. Those in seminary work report some increase in numbers (job market bad) but the quality is not the same.

  • Church rejects Mormon couple as Cub leaders

    10/22/2010 5:59:42 AM PDT · 22 of 317
    VidMihi to tkas
    Boy Scouts don’t get particular religious training in the scouts, do they? Well, the answer is or probably should be YES. The Boy Scouts is a program that can be used by Churches etc. to enhance and supplement their religious education programs for their youth. There are specific religious rewards for each Faith which are a regular part of the program, in addition to the usual scout awards. The sponsor (Church) owns the unit, they use the program. While some, maybe many sponsors do not utilize the full potential benefits for their Churches, they lose out and usually have weaker units.

    The LDS Church is the best example of proper and effective use of the program, and their youth involvement is especially strong. Witness how many of their missionaries are former scouts, and Eagle Scouts at that.

  • First Study of Chicago Catholics Reveals Unwavering Faith

    10/21/2010 6:43:28 AM PDT · 5 of 7
    VidMihi to 1rudeboy
    The song goes “They will know we are Christians by our love”. I fear as we read some of the posts here some will again suspect that some of the so called Magisterium Catholics ( the ones who are the “real” Catholics - all the rest are CINO ) are anything but Christians.
  • What Is the Magisterium?

    10/16/2010 3:02:12 PM PDT · 4 of 14
    VidMihi to NYer
    I know not Thomas Storck or what may be his credentials but he comes across as a little too academic and not too practical or pastoral, some what like our current President

    I think I would rather trust the following as being more pastoral and much more a correct understanding of this aspect of our Faith.

    Lest we do not highlight sufficiently this important fact. Vatican II was an ecumenical council, i.e., a solemn exercise of the magisterium of the church, i.e. the college of bishops gathered together with the bishop of Rome and exercising a teaching function for the whole church. In other words, its vision, its principles and the direction it gave are to be followed and implemented by all, from the pope to the peasant farmer in the fields of Honduras.

    Since Vatican II there has been no such similar exercise of teaching authority by the magisterium. Instead, a series of decrees, pronouncements and decisions which have been given various "labels" stating, for example, that they must be firmly held to with "internal assent" by the Catholic faithful, but in reality are simply the theological or pastoral interpretations or opinions of those who have power at the centre of the church. They have not been solemnly defined as belonging to the "deposit of the faith" to be believed and followed, therefore, by all Catholics, as with other solemnly proclaimed dogmas. For example, the issues of celibacy for the priesthood and the ordination of women, withdrawn even from the realm of discussion. Therefore, such pronouncements are open to scrutiny -- to discern whether they are in accord, for example, with the fundamental theological vision of Vatican II, or whether there is indeed a case to be made for a different interpretation or opinion.

    At the heart of this is the question of conscience. As Catholics, we need to be trusted enough to make informed decisions about our life, our witness, our expressions of faith, spirituality, prayer, and involvement in the world -- on the basis of a developed conscience. And, as an invitation to an appreciation of conscience and conscientious decisions about life and participation in what is a very human church, I close with the formulation or understanding given by none other than the theologian, Fr. Josef Ratzinger, now pope, when he was a peritus, or expert, at Vatican II:

    "Over the pope as expression of the binding claim of ecclesiastical authority, there stands one's own conscience which must be obeyed before all else, even if necessary against the requirement of ecclesiastical authority. This emphasis on the individual, whose conscience confronts him with a supreme and ultimate tribunal, and one which in the last resort is beyond the claim of external social groups, even the official church, also establishes a principle in opposition to increasing totalitarianism". (Joseph Ratzinger in: Commentary on the Documents of Vatican II ,Vol. V., pg. 134 (Ed) H. Vorgrimler, New York, Herder and Herder, 1967).

    Bishop Kevin Dowling C.Ss.R. Cape Town, June 1, 2010

  • Flawed Pew Poll on Religious Knowledge Falsely Flatters Atheists

    10/03/2010 3:16:59 PM PDT · 11 of 15
    VidMihi to Tax-chick
    NO, How about a little Bible Study, Catholic Dogma (like the Eucharist ), a little Church History, what it means to be a member of a Faith Community, Ecclesiology, some ideas about the ten commandments, - stuff like that.
  • Flawed Pew Poll on Religious Knowledge Falsely Flatters Atheists

    10/03/2010 10:19:17 AM PDT · 4 of 15
    VidMihi to WebFocus
    Instead of coming up with excuses and playing a game of denial why not use the results (whatever faults there may be ) as a wake up call to the honest realization that Adult Christian Education in most of our Catholic parishes is almost nonexistent and many sermons are a series of cute stories instead of instruction.
  • 'Go Ahead. I Dare You.'

    10/01/2010 1:27:13 PM PDT · 3 of 5
    VidMihi to Mobties
    Lacking an honest and open forum for discussion, (which the Catholic bishops do not allow ) Fr. Larry should join his fellow wimps in the priesthood and shut up. His job is to obey like a good boy. And the role of his people is to “pay, pray and obey”. Is this not the proper way for Catholics?
  • Pondering the “Smaller but Purer” Vision of the Church

    09/23/2010 7:01:56 AM PDT · 8 of 28
    VidMihi to markomalley
    I suspect Msgr. Pope has made some very good and valid points. The Church is for all and universal. It is also very human and constantly in need of reformation.

    Those who think that they and they alone have the pure doctrine, rather than realizing we are pilgrims, drive others away by their intolerant and superior attitudes. They use "we must become a smaller and more pure church" to justify their narrow views and lack of openness to discussion of things they might disagree with, and with which I too probably disagree with but am willing to discuss. Such attitudes drive people away, thus keeping the church small for just us few "good and righteous, magisterium obedient few".

  • (Archdiocese of St Paul Mpls) Official Announcement: Catholic Coalition for Church Reform (CCCR)

    09/20/2010 2:37:53 PM PDT · 7 of 9
    VidMihi to markomalley
    While I may not agree with what you say, It seems that as an American, and as an honest and open person, I would not prohibit your speech as long as you are not going to incite armed revolution and murder. Is this not also true for Catholics, is there no free speech and free exchange of ideas?

    Who would want to be a part of a group so intolerant?

  • Anecdotal Confirmation of Increase in Priestly Vocations

    09/19/2010 7:04:18 AM PDT · 11 of 11
    VidMihi to Campion
    Maybe. Hopefully so. But the parish priests I knew taught in parish school, ran carnivals, had Sunday Masses at 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, and 12 plus 9, 10, and 11 in chapel. Benediction and Baptisms on Sunday afternoon, regularly out on parish census, validated marriages, at least a dozen communion calls every week plus another two dozen on first Friday, active in community, ran CCD besides parish school, two or three funeral Masses every week plus long trips to cemetery, Ongoing convert classes every week, lots of private instructions, counted collection every Monday morning and frequently took additional classes at local college. One day off a week. Ran a variety of parish organizations, youth groups plus a few other things. No Deacons, no lay ministers, no parish Religion education coordinator and frequently no parish secretary. This was the life that inspired young boys, who became priests with full expectation of an active and busy ministry. No late vocations of the unemployed looking for a job.

    If your parish priest does all the above after seven to twelve years in seminary - lucky you - keep him and run him through a duplicating machine.

  • Anecdotal Confirmation of Increase in Priestly Vocations

    09/18/2010 5:37:01 PM PDT · 5 of 11
    VidMihi to sinanju
    Gee, I hope the economy isn’t the reason for this. What do you think.. I don't like girls, I want a job which gives security, not much work, status and I can tell others what to do. Lots of male friends. Almost everyone who applies gets hired. not bad.

    There was a time when young boys were inspired by parish priests, teachers, missionary zeal. Long seminary, where only a few actually made it. Quality difference ??

  • The Shame of the Catholic Church in Belgium

    09/13/2010 5:47:22 AM PDT · 18 of 31
    VidMihi to RobbyS
    It would seem there is need for more honest discussion regarding the acceptance of homosexuality especially in the clergy of all mainline denominations. For Catholics the word is - ephebophilia — sex with post-pubescent young people, almost always males — priests are rarely guilty of pedophilia except in the subset - ephebophilia.

    - There seems to be an acceptance of a dominant “gay subculture“ in the "celibate" Catholic Priesthood. Gay priests seem to be very popular, especially among Catholic women.

  • New Forecast Shows Democrats Losing 6 to 7 Senate Seats

    08/26/2010 7:37:45 AM PDT · 18 of 22
    VidMihi to Recovering_Democrat

    Hey - My friend, Al a Capone a wanna talk ta youse

  • (Tennessee) Father Breen Retracts Statements -- Saves Job

    08/21/2010 1:30:39 PM PDT · 35 of 47
    VidMihi to Campion
    Let us not get so definitive about the so called “ordinary magisterium”. According to your interpretation the Syllabus of Errors of Pius IX would be infallible. Not so. Consider the following from Bishop Dowling:

    "Lest we do not highlight sufficiently this important fact. Vatican II was an ecumenical council, i.e., a solemn exercise of the magisterium of the church, i.e. the college of bishops gathered together with the bishop of Rome and exercising a teaching function for the whole church. In other words, its vision, its principles and the direction it gave are to be followed and implemented by all, from the pope to the peasant farmer in the fields of Honduras. Since Vatican II there has been no such similar exercise of teaching authority by the magisterium. Instead, a series of decrees, pronouncements and decisions which have been given various "labels" stating, for example, that they must be firmly held to with "internal assent" by the Catholic faithful, but in reality are simply the theological or pastoral interpretations or opinions of those who have power at the centre of the church. They have not been solemnly defined as belonging to the "deposit of the faith" to be believed and followed, therefore, by all Catholics, as with other solemnly proclaimed dogmas. For example, the issues of celibacy for the priesthood and the ordination of women, withdrawn even from the realm of discussion. Therefore, such pronouncements are open to scrutiny -- to discern whether they are in accord, for example, with the fundamental theological vision of Vatican II, or whether there is indeed a case to be made for a different interpretation or opinion.

    At the heart of this is the question of conscience. As Catholics, we need to be trusted enough to make informed decisions about our life, our witness, our expressions of faith, spirituality, prayer, and involvement in the world -- on the basis of a developed conscience. And, as an invitation to an appreciation of conscience and conscientious decisions about life and participation in what is a very human church, I close with the formulation or understanding given by none other than the theologian, Fr. Josef Ratzinger, now pope, when he was a peritus, or expert, at Vatican II:

    "Over the pope as expression of the binding claim of ecclesiastical authority, there stands one's own conscience which must be obeyed before all else, even if necessary against the requirement of ecclesiastical authority. This emphasis on the individual, whose conscience confronts him with a supreme and ultimate tribunal, and one which in the last resort is beyond the claim of external social groups, even the official church, also establishes a principle in opposition to increasing totalitarianism". (Joseph Ratzinger in: Commentary on the Documents of Vatican II ,Vol. V., pg. 134 (Ed) H. Vorgrimler, New York, Herder and Herder, 1967). Bishop Kevin Dowling C.Ss.R. Cape Town, June 1, 2010

  • (Tennessee) Father Breen Retracts Statements -- Saves Job

    08/21/2010 7:28:11 AM PDT · 18 of 47
    VidMihi to markomalley
    Unfortunately Fr. Breen’s observations in the video were right on the mark, and could have been equally honestly made by any number of dedicated priests of Fr. Breen’s age and older. These are men who love the Church and care enough to be honest in spite of the risks. What is really sad is that such men, also committed to their service of the people of God, must compromise their integrity. It is a mark of the poor quality of the Church's current leadership, that such issues cannot be discussed openly.
  • Why I Am Catholic: For All the Saints: Bernard of Clairvaux

    08/20/2010 8:00:29 AM PDT · 4 of 6
    VidMihi to markomalley
    One suspects that Bernard's influence upon the popes of the time contributed to the imposition of celibacy upon the secular clergy, the weird idea of being the "bride of Christ",- all of which helped get the Church into a disfunctional idea of sexuality and marriage from which it has yet to recover. The brief quote below gives some insight into this strange person.

    His quality, vivacity of wit, and cultivated genius, his prudence and natural modesty, his affability and sweetness of temper, and the agreeableness of his conversation, made him beloved by all; but these very advantages had their snares. His first clanger was from his false friends and companions; but the light of grace made him discover their first attempts and resolutely repulse them, and shun such treacherous worldly company for the time to come. Once he happened to fix his eyes on the face of a woman; but immediately reflecting that this was a temptation, he ran to a pond, and leaped up to the neck into the water, which was then as cold as ice, to punish himself, and to vanquish the enemy. On another occasion, an impudent woman assaulted him; but he drove her out of his chamber with the utmost indignation. Bernard, by these temptations, was affrighted at the snares and dangers of the world, and began to think of forsaking it,

  • a salesman who doesn't like the product

    08/19/2010 5:16:03 PM PDT · 8 of 8
    VidMihi to markomalley

    This is a stupid comparison. The product might be substantially good, therefore I might continue to sell it but some of of the add ons the management in Detroit have incorporated are bad and particularly if the tires that it is currently running on are flat and need to be replaced I might have to apologize, but in spite of all its imperfections it is the still the best car on the street - so buy it and we will both work together to fix what is wrong. But first, of course, we both have to be honest about the product before we can begin to fix it.

  • Obedience vs. Conscience (Help Lapsed Catholics Return to Christ and His Church) [Caucus]

    08/15/2010 2:44:53 PM PDT · 10 of 18
    VidMihi to NYer

    My impression is that Janet did not listen to the video of Fr. Breen.

  • [CATHOLIC CAUCUS] Sr. Jeannine Gramick claims disconnect between laity and bishops...

    08/14/2010 2:18:15 PM PDT · 4 of 5
    VidMihi to mckenzie7
    Whether it is 50% or 90% of the clergy are gay depends on the exclusion or non exclusion of older priests ( ordained before 1960 ) who are less likely to be gay. Probably a more accurate percentage would be about 75%. And let's not pretend they are celibate - depends upon their definition of celibacy ( they come from the Bill Clinton era remember ) no marriage with a woman - which is ok because they like boys and men better anyway.

    This lady that I spoke with said that her reason for being in this parish WAS because of the wonderful priest.

    Let us admit the fact that the women like the gay priests - they can easily identify with them - and they are all that their husbands are not - kind, gentle, sensitive, neat etc. So we have a problem - the preponderance of gay priests and bishops drive the heterosexual males away - from seminaries and from active celibate ministry - they are sexually normal - who needs this gay stuff and they find women and get married - they are still willing to serve the Church but the gay power structure find them a threat so they continue their ministry elsewhere or in one of the "married priests organizations" Sorry, but I think our Catholic women are partly to blame. Would be interested in reactions to this theory.

  • Gay priest firestorm, in retrospect

    08/09/2010 9:57:53 AM PDT · 6 of 6
    VidMihi to marshmallow
    If the priesthood really is 60% homosexual yet only 4-5% of US priests were accused of abuse, then we all owe homosexuals one almighty apology because they are indeed capable of being celibate and chaste.

    In fact, the 60% figure is balderdash.

    In fact the 60% figure is probably low if you remove the priests and bishops ordained before 1960 AND happily probably most are gayly active with boy friends their own age.

  • What Might Have Been

    08/06/2010 11:17:31 AM PDT · 9 of 10
    VidMihi to bronx2; marsh-mellow; Sergio; sitetest
    It is hard to imagine how things could have gone more wrong - thanks to the election of JPII and his 27 years the teachings of Vatican II have been diluted, Europe has been virtually lost to atheists and Latin America to Evangelical Christians, our native vocations are nil and those we have are not the brightest lights, non-english speaking priests fill the parishes that have not been closed with people giving up every day trying to understand their sermons, many if not most of our priests (and bishops) are gay with revelations coming almost weekly of stealing to support their boy friends and lavish life styles and let us not forget JPII’s favorite priest -Fr Marcial Maciel Degollado, founder of the Legion of Christ. JPII was great - great maybe for Poland but a disaster for the Catholic Church.
  • 9 Abuse Allegations Against 1st Episcopal Bishop to Ordain a Woman

    07/29/2010 1:43:54 PM PDT · 10 of 11
    VidMihi to bronx2
    The key word here is- ephebophilia — sex with post-pubescent young people, almost always males — priests are rarely guilty of pedophilia except in the subset - ephebophilia - Which points to a dominant “gay subculture“ in the "celibate" Catholic Priesthood.

    This might be a good argument for the return to active ministry of heterosexual married priests - to reduce the influence of the gay clergy and to blow the whistle on some of their activities.

    But I think the primary reason to argue for the return of the married priest must be ministry to the people.

  • 9 Abuse Allegations Against 1st Episcopal Bishop to Ordain a Woman

    07/29/2010 8:48:05 AM PDT · 6 of 11
    VidMihi to bronx2
    Allowing married priests has nothing to do with abuse, most pedophiles are married. Allowing married priests has to do with making the sacraments available to the people and not closing parishes.
  • Does Celibacy Contribute to Clerical Sex Abuse?

    05/19/2010 1:34:24 PM PDT · 44 of 45
    VidMihi to MEGoody
    You wrote: Heavens no. if celibacy were the issue, then you'd be seeing vast numbers of priests just leaving the priesthood to marry or having consensual affairs with grown women.

    Celibacy is the issue for exactly that which you indicated actually happened. The result - once the heterosexual priests left - a gay clergy resulted as the seminaries accepted anyone. Celibacy is the issue for a shortage of heterosexual priests - not the issue for abuse - except that with the absence of heterosexuals, the gay culture dominated.

  • Does Celibacy Contribute to Clerical Sex Abuse?

    05/19/2010 1:33:03 PM PDT · 43 of 45
    VidMihi to MEGoody
    You wrote: Heavens no. if celibacy were the issue, then you'd be seeing vast numbers of priests just leaving the priesthood to marry or having consensual affairs with grown women.

    Celibacy is the issue for exactly that which you indicated actually happened. The result - once the heterosexual priests left - a gay clergy resulted as the seminaries accepted anyone. Celibacy is the issue for a shortage of heterosexual priests - not the issue for abuse - except that with the absence of heterosexuals, the gay culture dominated.

  • Does Celibacy Contribute to Clerical Sex Abuse?

    05/19/2010 8:51:13 AM PDT · 23 of 45
    VidMihi to markomalley
    Let’s all learn a new word - ephebophilia — sex with post-pubescent young people, almost always males — priests are rarely guilty of pedophilia except in the subset - ephebophilia - Which may point to a dominant “gay subculture“ in the celibate Catholic Priesthood, which just might be a good argument for the return to active ministry of heterosexual married priests.

    Celibacy, in itself, when practiced, does not lead to any type of abuse. However, lets be honest- studies have shown the gay priests (and bishops) have their boyfriends, and the heterosexual priests frequently have girl friends, many of whom eventually in honesty, resign and get married. Not all - there are truly celibate priests but not as many as people would like to believe. There is no reason for the gay priests to leave, they can have their boyfriends in the rectory - so they stay, the heterosexuals leave to get married and we end up with a majority gay clergy.

    The true celibates would like the help of a married clergy - the homosexuals would not be comfortable with more heterosexuals around. When priests began to leave to get married most of those who remained would have liked to have them back in some position. As the clergy became more gay the desire to have the married priests back diminished significantly.

  • Nuns, Habits, Disobedience, and Mortal Sin

    05/18/2010 6:05:32 AM PDT · 8 of 8
    VidMihi to BenKenobi
    I think it may be more important for each one to maintain their own discipline, rather than to tell others how to maintain their discipline when I do not walk in their shoes.
  • Legion Leaders Absolve Themselves Before They Sink

    05/17/2010 6:13:19 AM PDT · 5 of 7
    VidMihi to Arthur McGowan
    Well said. And the sooner we get rid of the super orthodox magisterium lovers Legionnaires the better. How about getting rid of some of the bishops JPII appointed?

    The role of the church and its pastors is to be pastoral.
    Honesty and Integrity requires they also be orthodox, but not to the point of refusing all discussion, insisting they and they alone know all the answers.

    How about some more honest discussion about the problems and possible solutions for today, not the next generation.

  • If celibacy causes abuse ....

    05/10/2010 5:05:29 PM PDT · 45 of 45
    VidMihi to Bellflower

    It is both ridiculous and insulting to compare the life of the priest with prison inmates. Thousands of priests were able to find women whom they subsequently married. One would have to have little or no knowledge of the ministerial life of a priest to make a comparison to prison inmates. Lets face the truth - homosexual life style by homosexuals.

  • If celibacy causes abuse ....

    05/09/2010 6:14:05 AM PDT · 30 of 45
    VidMihi to ClearCase_guy
    You are right. Many Homosexuals in the priesthood practice their sexuality on young boys. However, many women like the gay priests - they share many other interests and are easy to talk to. Thus many have said “ I don't care is the priest is gay”
  • If celibacy causes abuse ....

    05/09/2010 6:08:07 AM PDT · 29 of 45
    VidMihi to Salvation
    Two wrongs do not make a right. Shouting in big red letters how bad others are does not contribute to the understanding of OUR problem, nor to any possible solution.
  • Looking behind the Catholic sex abuse scandal

    05/05/2010 6:38:27 AM PDT · 16 of 30
    VidMihi to ALPAPilot
    John O is correct. There is no Catholic sex scandal. There is (or rather was) a homosexual sex scandal within the Catholic priesthood. Let’s all learn a new word - ephebophilia — sex with post-pubescent young people, almost always males — priests are rarely guilty of pedophilia except in the subset - pedophilia - Which may point to a dominant “gay subculture“ in the celibate Catholic Priesthood, which just might be a good argument for the return to active ministry of heterosexual married priests.

    Would there were more practical discussion on how to begin the solution of the "gay clergy" problem.

  • A “Celibacy Problem”? Catholic-Bashing, NAMBLA and the Dalai Lama

    05/05/2010 6:26:28 AM PDT · 16 of 17
    VidMihi to cothrige
    Obviously we do not know all the answers, but I do not think “orthodoxy” has anything to do with it. I have been told by relatives of ex-seminarians that a “gay culture” and being hit on were the reasons many heterosexuals left the seminaries. On grandmother said her grandson tried the seminary twice, and left both times for the same reason.
    I was not there, I do not know. I only know what most Catholics will acknowledge, and that is that a very large number of their priests are gay. It also seems that many women like the gay priests - they are kind, neat, easy to talk to,share many of their interests etc. In a word they are everything their husbands are not.
  • A “Celibacy Problem”? Catholic-Bashing, NAMBLA and the Dalai Lama

    05/03/2010 1:50:02 PM PDT · 8 of 17
    VidMihi to NYer
    There are many studies and other observations but probably the best is Changing Face of the Priesthood ,by Father Donald Cozzens, a long time Seminary rector.
  • A “Celibacy Problem”? Catholic-Bashing, NAMBLA and the Dalai Lama

    05/03/2010 12:17:41 PM PDT · 6 of 17
    VidMihi to NYer
    It seems to me that while it is true that celibacy is not the problem per se, it tends to attract homosexual men disproportionately, ( who may practice safe sex -that is - no women involved, thus no desire for marriage).

    The heterosexual male does not usually relate well in a community of sexually active gay men. I suspect the outside interests of gay men - food, style, fabrics, teen girl idols, male body parts, young boy friends etc. make it difficult to create close friendships which are essential in the priestly fraternity.

    Gay priests, with some significant and notable exceptions,are not known for their pastoral 24/7 enthusiasm. And since so many of the bishops are gay, the heterosexual priest has little chance for advancement or even encouragement.

    Thus to be a heterosexual celibate priest is a very very lonely and discouraging lifestyle.

    Recalling some of the priests who have married would begin to change the gay culture of the current mix.