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  • Exonerated anthrax suspect: FBI harassed me

    04/16/2010 6:51:46 PM PDT · 19 of 29
    Vidocq to NativeNewYorker
  • Exonerated anthrax suspect: FBI harassed me

    04/16/2010 6:17:27 PM PDT · 18 of 29
    Vidocq to NativeNewYorker
  • Exonerated anthrax suspect: FBI harassed me

    04/16/2010 6:15:40 PM PDT · 17 of 29
    Vidocq to NativeNewYorker
  • Exonerated anthrax suspect: FBI harassed me

    04/16/2010 6:13:19 PM PDT · 16 of 29
    Vidocq to NativeNewYorker
  • Exonerated anthrax suspect: FBI harassed me

    04/16/2010 3:40:03 PM PDT · 10 of 29
    Vidocq to SargeK
  • Exonerated anthrax suspect: FBI harassed me

    04/16/2010 3:36:47 PM PDT · 9 of 29
    Vidocq to a fool in paradise
  • Exonerated anthrax suspect: FBI harassed me

    04/16/2010 12:52:01 PM PDT · 7 of 29
    Vidocq to a fool in paradise
  • Exonerated anthrax suspect: FBI harassed me

    04/16/2010 12:52:01 PM PDT · 6 of 29
    Vidocq to a fool in paradise
  • Oakland Priest’s Accuser Describes Sexual Abuse

    04/11/2010 8:56:36 PM PDT · 5 of 19
    Vidocq to JoeProBono
    Didn't know that Kiesele was an equal opportunity molester
  • FBI Ends Nine-Year Investigation Of Anthrax Attacks

    02/20/2010 10:40:24 AM PST · 37 of 40
    Vidocq to EdLake; Shermy
  • FBI Ends Nine-Year Investigation Of Anthrax Attacks

    02/20/2010 10:33:25 AM PST · 36 of 40
    Vidocq to EdLake

    Original Anthrax Patsy Says Ivins “Didn’t Kill Himself”

    USAMRIID toxicologist says friend and colleague Bruce Ivins not guilty, roots of corruption deeper

    Steve Watson Infowars.net September 9, 2008

    A former colleague and friend of Bruce Ivins, and the original suspect in the FBI’s investigation into the 2001 anthrax attacks, has declared that Ivins did not kill himself and was not behind the attack that killed five people shortly after 9/11.

    Dr. Ayaad Assaad, an Egyptian-born toxicologist at the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, made the comments in an interview with a local newspaper in the area of Fort Detrick last weekend.

    The Frederick News Post reported:

    Assaad, who worked in a U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Disease lab at Fort Detrick from 1989 to 1997 developing a vaccine for ricin, said in an interview Saturday he does not believe Ivins was guilty.

    “He’s a great man. He’s honorable, sincere, honest and most important, he didn’t kill five people and he didn’t kill himself,” Assaad told the newspaper.

    Assaad knew Ivins well, not only were they colleagues but their four children were all classmates In Frederick.

    Assaad was extensively questioned by the FBI On October 1, 2001, a fortnight after the first anthrax letters were mailed. It later emerged that the FBI’s lead, a letter from an unidentified person who claimed Assaad was planning a biological terrorist attack, was false.

    The mystery letter identified Assaad as a former USAMRIID microbiologist and also pinpointed his time at the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Chemical Defense at Aberdeen Proving Ground in Harford County, indicating that whoever sent it had access to detailed army records.

    The anonymous letter was sent shortly after 9/11 but before anyone knew about the anthrax-laced letters. On October 5, 2001, about 10 days after the anonymous letter was mailed, Robert Stevens, Photo Editor of The Sun in Florida, became the first of five individuals to die from an anthrax infection, indicating that someone had wanted to frame Assaad for the attacks.

    “This anthrax issue is part of a much bigger issue,” Assaad also commented. “The roots of corruption are so deep in (USAMRIID), and this is the thing that the people in Frederick don’t understand.”

    Former government biological weapons legislator Dr. Francis Boyle shares Assaad’s view that Ivins has been used as a patsy in a larger cover up.

    "Ivins is only the latest dead microbiologist." Boyle stated, "You also have to tie into this the large numbers of dead microbiologists that have appeared since around the summer before these events, when the New York Times revealed the existence of the covert anthrax weapons programs run by the CIA, and that too is in the public record."

  • National Enquirer Now Is a Legitimate Newspaper - (Covered Edwards when no one else would)

    02/20/2010 10:13:29 AM PST · 7 of 10
    Vidocq to GeorgiaDawg32

    Robert Stevens, a 63-year-old photo editor at AMI

    Friday, August 01, 2008
    Did Bruce Ivins kill Bob Stevens?

    Stevens’ widow said Friday she still hopes to find out if it was the anthrax researcher, who committed suicide as authorities reportedly were to charge him in the sensational 2001 anthrax attacks that gripped Palm Beach County and the nation seven years ago.

    Frederick News Post

    Dr. Bruce E. Ivins, shown in an undated photo, committed suicide before prosecutors could charge him with mailing anthrax-laced letters.

    The Post

    Bob Stevens, a photo editor for American Media Inc. in Boca Raton, was the first fatality in the anthrax mailings. He died in October 2001.

    But she also realizes the ability to know for sure might have died with him. Either way, she said, she won’t stop trying to find out.

    “We thought, ‘they’ve got close before,’” Stevens said Friday afternoon, from the West Palm Beach office of her lawyer. “I’m hoping they have the facts now and this is the right person and we’ll get more information.”

    Just weeks after America was stunned by the Sept. 11 attacks, and South Florida reeled with the news that many of the terrorists had lived and trained in the area, tainted letters arrived in the mail room at American Media Inc. in Boca Raton - publisher of the National Enquirer, the Sun, and other tabloids - and later, at congressional offices in Washington, D.C.

    Robert Stevens, a 63-year-old photo editor at AMI, who lived with his wife in suburban Lantana, began feeling ill Sept. 27 and slipped into a coma before doctors could tell him what had sent him to the hospital.

    He died Oct. 5. Investigators later found anthrax spores on his work keyboard.

    Even as the building was being sealed, more employees fell ill, including mailroom worker Ernesto Blanco.

    Within six weeks, Congress and network giants ABC and NBC all found evidence anthrax had been mailed to their offices as well.

    The staff of AMI never would return to their desks. The 67,000-square-foot building would remain sealed.

    In 2003, the $3.8 million complex was bought for $40,000. The next year, a firm whose partners included former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani - himself no stranger to terrorism - began a cleanup.

    The building was bought in November 2007 for $9.29 million by credit card company Applied Card Systems. It reopened in February.

    But no one ever was charged - until, almost, apparently, now.

    “I’m impressed by the FBI’s persistence in the case,” Steven Abrams, Boca Raton’s mayor during the attacks, said Friday. “For us in Boca, it was a long nightmare,” he said.

    “This is one of the saddest cases in history, in terms of someone who would utilize his knowledge and his position to do harm,” current mayor Susan Whelchel said. “We may have the individual who actually committed the crime, but I don’t think we’ve heard the end of this yet.”

    Dr. Jean Malecki, who as head of the Palm Beach County Health Department oversaw the first biological terrorism attack in U.S. history, said Friday the bottom line is that the attack succeeded.

    “If it was him (Ivins), thank God this is over,” Malecki, who still runs the department, said from a conference in Orlando.

    But, she added, “it succeeded in killing people, maiming people, and - what terrorism is all about - causing fear. Ultimately, what we want to do is prevent that from ever occurring again.”

    Stevens has said only a handful of people had the knowledge, access and motive and she’s sure the government knows who.

    She has said she believes the timing, weeks after the Sept. 11 attacks, were coincidence — or the attacker took advantage of events.

    In 2003, she sued the federal government and Battelle Memorial Institute, a research firm that contracts with the military. She alleged security lapses at the Fort Detrick research facility led to her husband being exposed. That suit is ongoing.

    “This vindicates me a little, because I’ve been told all along it wasn’t from Fort Detrick and it wasn’t anything they (researchers at the facility) were working with,” she said Friday.

    “It’s been a long time coming. But at least we’re getting somewhere,” she said.

    Stevens’ attorney, Richard Schuler, said whether the FBI closes the case or declares it never can be solved, it must open its files to the widow.

    “We want to know what information they had,” Schuler said, “that made them so positive he was the one.”

  • FBI Ends Nine-Year Investigation Of Anthrax Attacks

    02/20/2010 8:55:02 AM PST · 35 of 40
    Vidocq to EdLake
  • FBI Ends Nine-Year Investigation Of Anthrax Attacks

    02/20/2010 8:06:25 AM PST · 34 of 40
    Vidocq to EdLake; Battle Axe; Shermy; NativeNewYorker

    Anthrax Vaccine — posts by Meryl Nass, M.D.

    Does the FBI stand for the Federal Bureau of Invention?

    Friday, February 19, 2010
    FBI: CASE CLOSED (and Ivins did it)
    But FBI’s report was released on Friday afternoon... which means the FBI anticipated doubt and ridicule. And the National Academy of Science (NAS) is several months away from issuing its report on the microbial forensics, suggesting a) asking NAS to investigate the FBI’s science was just a charade to placate Congress, and/or b) NAS’ investigation might be uncovering things the FBI would prefer to bury, so FBI decided to preempt the NAS panel’s report.

    Here are today’s reports from the Justice Department, AP, Washington Post and NY Times. The WaPo article ends,

    The FBI’s handling of the investigation has been criticized by Ivins’s colleagues and by independent analysts who have pointed out multiple gaps, including a lack of hair, fiber other physical evidence directly linking Ivins to the anthrax letters. But despite long delays and false leads, Justice officials Friday expressed satisfaction with the outcome.

    The evidence “established that Dr. Ivins, alone, mailed the anthrax letters,” the Justice summary stated.

    Actually, the 96 page FBI report is predicated on the assumption that the anthrax letters attack was carried out by a “lone nut.” The FBI report fails to entertain the possibility that the letters attack could have involved more than one actor. The FBI admits that about 400 people may have had access to Ivins’ RMR-1029 anthrax preparation, but asserts all were “ruled out” as lone perpetrators. FBI never tried to rule any out as part of a conspiracy, however.

    That is only the first of many holes in FBI’s case. Here is a sampling of some more.

    The report assumes Ivins manufactured, purified and dried the spore prep in the anthrax hot room at US Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID). His colleagues say the equipment available was insufficient to do so on the scale required.
    But even more important, the letter spores contained a Bacillus subtilis contaminant, and silicon to enhance dispersal. FBI has never found the Bacillus subtilis strain at USAMRIID, and it has never acknowledged finding silicon there, either. If the letters anthrax was made at USAMRIID, at least small amounts of both would be there.
    Drs. Perry Mikesell, Ayaad Assaad and Stephen Hatfill were 3 earlier suspects. All had circumstantial evidence linking them to the case. In Hatfill’s case, especially, are hints he could have been “set up.” Greendale, the return address on the letters, was a suburb of Harare, Zimbabwe where Hatfill attended medical school. Hatfill wrote an unpublished book about a biowarfare attack that bears some resemblance to the anthrax case. So the fact that abundant circumstantial evidence links Ivins to the case might be a reflection that he too was “set up” as a potential suspect, before the letters were sent.
    FBI fails to provide any discussion of why no autopsy was performed, nor why, with Ivins under 24/7 surveillance from the house next door, with even his garbage being combed through, the FBI failed to notice that he overdosed and went into a coma. Nor is there any discussion of why the FBI didn’t immediately identify tylenol as the overdose substance, and notify the hospital, so that a well-known antidote for tylenol toxicity could be given (N-acetyl cysteine, or alternatively glutathione). These omissions support the suggestion that Ivins’ suicide was a convenience for the FBI. It enabled them to conclude the anthrax case, in the absence of evidence that would satisfy the courts.
    The FBI’s alleged motive is bogus. In 2001, Bioport’s anthrax vaccine could not be (legally) relicensed due to potency failures, and its impending demise provided room for Ivins’ newer anthrax vaccines to fill the gap. Ivins had nothing to do with developing Bioport’s vaccine, although in addition to his duties working on newer vaccines, he was charged with assisting Bioport to get through licensure.
    FBI’s report claims, “Those who worked for him knew that Nass was one of those topics to avoid discussing around Dr. Ivins” (page 41). The truth is we had friendly meetings at the Annapolis, Maryland international anthrax conference in June 2001, and several phone conversations after that. Bruce occasionally assisted me in my study of the safety and efficacy of Bioport’s licensed anthrax vaccine, giving me advice and papers he and others had written. I wonder if I was mentioned negatively to discourage Ivins’ other friends and associates from communicating with me, since they have been prohibited from speaking freely? Clever.

    The FBI’s Summary states that “only a limited number of individuals ever had access to this specific spore preparation” and that the flask was under Ivins’ sole and exclusive control. Yet the body of the report acknowledges hundreds of people who had access to the spores, and questions remain about the location of the spore prep during the period in question. FBI wordsmiths around this, claiming that no one at USAMRIID “legitimately” used spores from RMR1029 without the “authorization and knowledge” of Bruce Ivins. Of course, stealing spores to terrorize and kill is not a legitimate activity.

    FBI says that only a small number of labs had Ames anthrax, including only 3 foreign labs. Yet a quick Pub Med search of papers published between 1999 and 2004 revealed Ames anthrax was studied in at least Italy, France, the UK, Israel and South Korea as well as the US. By failing to identify all labs with access to Ames, the FBI managed to exclude potential domestic and foreign perpetrators.
    FBI claims that “drying anthrax is expressly forbidden by various treaties,” therefore it would have to be performed clandestinely. Actually, the US government sponsored several programs that dried anthrax spores. Drying spores is not explicitly prohibited by the Biological Weapons Convention, though many would like it to be.
    The FBI report claims the anthrax letters envelopes were sold in Frederick, Md. Later it admits that millions of indistinguishable envelopes were made, with sales in Maryland and Virginia.
    FBI emphasizes Ivins’ access to a photocopy machine, but fails to mention it was not the machine from which the notes that accompanied the spores were printed.
    FBI claims Ivins was able to make a spore prep of equivalent purity as the letter spores. However, Ivins had clumping in his spores, while the spores in the Daschle/Leahy letters had no clumps. Whether Ivins could make a pure dried prep is unknown, but there is no evidence he had ever done so.

    FBI asserts that Bioport and USAMRIID were nearly out of anthrax vaccine, to the point researchers might not have enough to vaccinate themselves. FBI further asserts this would end all anthrax research, derailing Ivins’ career. In fact, USAMRIID has developed many dozens of vaccines (including those for anthrax) that were never licensed, but have been used by researchers to vaccinate themselves. There would be no vaccine shortage for researchers.
    Ivins certainly had mental problems. But that does not explain why the FBI accompanied Ivins’ therapist, Ms. Duley (herself under charges for multiple DUIs) and assisted her to apply for a peace order against him. Nor does it explain why Duley then went into hiding, never to be heard from again.
    FBI obtained a voluntary collection of anthrax samples. Is that the way to conduct a multiple murder investigation: ask the scientists to supply you with the evidence to convict them? There is no report that spores were seized from anyone but Ivins, about 6 years after the attacks. This is a huge hole in the FBI’s “scientific” methodology.
    FBI claims it investigated Bioport and others who had a financial motive for the letters attack, and ruled them out. However, FBI provides not a shred of evidence from such an investigation.
    FBI gave this report its best shot. The report sounds good. It includes some new evidence. It certainly makes Ivins out to be a crazed, scary and pathetic figure. If you haven’t followed this story intently, you may be convinced of his guilt.

    On the other hand, there are reasons why a conspiracy makes better sense. If the FBI really had the goods, they would not be overreaching to pin the crime on a lone nut.

    JFK, RFK, George Wallace, Martin Luther King, all felled by lone nuts. Even Ronald Reagan’s would-be assassin was a lone nut. Now Bruce Ivins. The American public is supposed to believe that all these crimes required no assistance and no funds.

    Does the FBI stand for the Federal Bureau of Invention?
    Posted by Meryl Nass, M.D. at 7:38 PM

    http://anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com/

  • FBI Ends Nine-Year Investigation Of Anthrax Attacks

    02/19/2010 1:46:27 PM PST · 22 of 40
    Vidocq to NativeNewYorker; Rome2000; Shermy; Battle Axe; Mitchell
  • FBI Ends Nine-Year Investigation Of Anthrax Attacks

    02/19/2010 1:38:51 PM PST · 20 of 40
    Vidocq to NativeNewYorker; Rome2000; Shermy; Battle Axe; Mitchell
  • FBI Ends Nine-Year Investigation Of Anthrax Attacks

    02/19/2010 1:38:37 PM PST · 19 of 40
    Vidocq to NativeNewYorker; Rome2000; Shermy; Battle Axe; Mitchell
  • FBI Ends Nine-Year Investigation Of Anthrax Attacks

    02/19/2010 1:29:37 PM PST · 18 of 40
    Vidocq to wendy1946
  • FBI Ends Nine-Year Investigation Of Anthrax Attacks

    02/19/2010 1:18:41 PM PST · 16 of 40
    Vidocq to NativeNewYorker
  • FBI Ends Nine-Year Investigation Of Anthrax Attacks

    02/19/2010 1:07:55 PM PST · 15 of 40
    Vidocq to PhilDragoo
  • FBI Ends Nine-Year Investigation Of Anthrax Attacks

    02/19/2010 12:58:54 PM PST · 13 of 40
    Vidocq to NativeNewYorker
    Is it safe?

  • FBI Ends Nine-Year Investigation Of Anthrax Attacks

    02/19/2010 12:55:56 PM PST · 12 of 40
    Vidocq to wendy1946; Rome2000

    Is It Safe - Now?

  • FBI Ends Nine-Year Investigation Of Anthrax Attacks

    02/19/2010 12:42:23 PM PST · 9 of 40
    Vidocq to Neoliberalnot
    Wall Street Journal: Ivins Not the Anthrax Killer

    ANTHRAX KILLER

  • FBI Ends Nine-Year Investigation Of Anthrax Attacks

    02/19/2010 12:20:08 PM PST · 4 of 40
    Vidocq to Mitchell
  • FBI Ends Nine-Year Investigation Of Anthrax Attacks

    02/19/2010 12:17:49 PM PST · 3 of 40
    Vidocq to TrebleRebel
  • FBI Ends Nine-Year Investigation Of Anthrax Attacks

    02/19/2010 12:15:25 PM PST · 2 of 40
    Vidocq to EdLake; NativeNewYorker; Battle Axe; Shermy
  • FBI Ends Nine-Year Investigation Of Anthrax Attacks

    02/19/2010 12:11:47 PM PST · 1 of 40
    Vidocq

    Dr. Bruce Ivins, seen in this 2003 photo, committed suicide in July 2008 as investigators closed in.

  • FBI investigating 8 threatening letters with white powder at federal offices around Alabama

    01/04/2010 7:02:32 PM PST · 41 of 50
    Vidocq to G8 Diplomat

    “Weaponized anthrax is brown....”

    Is it really?

    Show me please.

  • Letters prompt anthrax scares at Alabama courthouses, offices of senators and congressmen

    01/04/2010 6:45:27 PM PST · 11 of 12
    Vidocq to smoothsailing
    Big Money?

  • Letters prompt anthrax scares at Alabama courthouses, offices of senators and congressmen

    01/04/2010 5:43:09 PM PST · 9 of 12
    Vidocq to smoothsailing

    Tara O’Toole?

  • Lupica: Has-been Dick Cheney's rants vs. President Obama politicize war on terror

    01/04/2010 5:24:51 PM PST · 62 of 64
    Vidocq to presidio9
    Hell if I know - is he?

  • Lupica: Has-been Dick Cheney's rants vs. President Obama politicize war on terror

    01/04/2010 4:53:07 PM PST · 59 of 64
    Vidocq to presidio9

    Thanks. Now I know for certain.

  • Lupica: Has-been Dick Cheney's rants vs. President Obama politicize war on terror

    01/04/2010 4:35:48 PM PST · 57 of 64
    Vidocq to NativeNewYorker
  • Letters prompt anthrax scares at Alabama courthouses, offices of senators and congressmen

    01/04/2010 4:23:03 PM PST · 7 of 12
    Vidocq to NativeNewYorker
  • Letters prompt anthrax scares at Alabama courthouses, offices of senators and congressmen

    01/04/2010 4:14:42 PM PST · 6 of 12
    Vidocq to Bon mots
  • Letters prompt anthrax scares at Alabama courthouses, offices of senators and congressmen

    01/04/2010 3:07:08 PM PST · 4 of 12
    Vidocq to Bon mots
    WTF!

  • Letters prompt anthrax scares at Alabama courthouses, offices of senators and congressmen

    01/04/2010 2:23:11 PM PST · 1 of 12
    Vidocq
  • BEST NOTABLE QUOTABLES OF 2009 ANNOUNCED BY MEDIA RESEARCH CENTER

    12/31/2009 1:43:42 PM PST · 4 of 4
    Vidocq to TheFreedomPoster

    Joe Wilson yelled “You lie!”

  • BBB ranks top 10 scams of 2009

  • BBB ranks top 10 scams of 2009

    12/31/2009 1:11:30 PM PST · 8 of 13
    Vidocq to the_devils_advocate_666

    Phishing Scammer tries it on with CEO of an Anti-phishing software product “Online Armor”
    So, I’m sitting there today working on something for a client when I received an unsolicted Skype Message with an “Important Business Proposal”.

    I normally mess with these guys a little, just to waste their time , but as I was on the phone to a client I just decided to get rid of him quickly.

    As you can see - he was suprisingly honest about his ultimate intentions.

    This is how the scam works

    Mr Dutu, or Mrs Dutu is usually writing to you from a yahoo or other free email address. It usually doesn’t address you by name. It always offers some opportunity - usually, the chance to get a share of millions of dollars in exchange for some assistance.

    A common theme is the widow of a Nigerian official (or just a corrupt Nigerian official) wants to move $250M (usually spelled as TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS) out of the country. He or she just needs a partner overseas.

    They offer a split of the money. Often there is the chance of further profits (we’d like to invest in real-estate in your country, and we will give you 10% of the profits). Quite often, they thank God for His mercy in finding someone as kind as yourself to help them.

    So, you’re probably asking yourself - how does this scam work? They want to send you $250M - it’s going to your bank account - what’s the catch? This scam has been going on for years, and it’s called Advanced Fee Fraud.

    Had I accepted this guy’s offer, here’s what likely would have happened:

    He’d ask me for some ID - passport and bank account details for the money
    He’s send me some official looking documentation - fake of course - which would allow me to claim the money from some third party. The third party would probably also have a free email address too (like Yahoo or Hotmail).
    The third party (Notary, Bank Manager) would contact me about claiming my money - and here’s the catch - there’s a $20 fee for stamping the document. Or a $200 fee.

    Mr Dutu would claim not to have this money, but of course, since I will soon get 10% of $250M, $200 is not much to pay.
    I’d send the money - and the documents would be “stamped”.
    Once they’d got me for $200 - there would be some other issue... and the costs would keep rising and rising until they couldn’t get any more money out of me.
    It’s a sad fact that in tough economic times, people get desparate and take risks or chances that they wouldn’t normally take in the hope of the “one big win” that would solve all their problems. You can imagine being in dire straights, and having invested $2,000 or so , thinking another $500 can’t hurt.

    Don’t get caught out.

    I’ve told the guy to go and find an idiot. Don’t let it be you - seriously - if it looks too good to be true, it probably is. The chance that some corrupt official is going to send you $250M dollars and let you keep 10% of it is pretty remote to say the least.

    Don’t be the Idiot: Mr Dutu Returns

    It was a Friday afternoon, and about an hour since my chat with “Mr Dutu” - too early to go for a beer, too late to do much work. I could see he was still online.

    So I thought I’d ask him a few questions...

    [3:56:08 PM] Mike Nash says: Any luck yet ?
    [3:56:48 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: just 1
    [3:56:54 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: for over three hours
    [3:57:07 PM] Mike Nash says: :( Business getting slow for you?
    [3:57:13 PM] Mike Nash says: May I ask, how much you make doing this ?
    [3:57:47 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: be my victim and you will get to know how much i can make from you
    [3:58:05 PM] Mike Nash says: (rofl) Very good :)
    [3:58:10 PM] Mike Nash says: You’re a funny guy
    [3:58:20 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: thanks (handshake)

    I ended up chatting with him for about an hour - and I have to say, he was a funny guy. A criminal, sure - but he claimed he was from Ghana, and had been doing this for only three months. He even tried to get some money out of me - but despite how amusing the guy was, he’s still a criminal, and relies on trickery and social engineering to get what he wants - which is cash.

    [3:58:51 PM] Mike Nash says: Seriously, do you really find many people that fall for this scam still? Though, I read in the newspaper than something like $100M leave the country each year
    [3:59:23 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: what scam?
    [3:59:31 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: this is real
    [3:59:34 PM] Mike Nash says: The advance fee fraud

    [3:59:42 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: i will send you details on it
    [4:00:11 PM] Mike Nash says: Over Skype?

    [4:00:23 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: This message has been removed

    ***Note - he pasted here the generic phishing email - which described how we’d share $16M. It was really, really well written in comparison to those that I’d normally get. ***

    [4:01:11 PM] Mike Nash says: Nice. That’s actually quite well written. And instead of $250M , you’re saying $16M...

    [4:01:29 PM] Mike Nash says: So, what’s the next step?
    [4:02:20 PM] Mike Nash says: Actually, I work for a security ecompany - this is why I am so interested

    [4:02:22 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: wait, i have a client
    [4:02:25 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: he is discussing positive
    [4:02:26 PM] Mike Nash says: ok

    It was interesting the way he refered to his victims as clients. He offered me the chance to see the chat history with his “client” - but then it went a little bad...

    [4:04:29 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: and put it on the internet right?
    [4:04:36 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: no
    [4:04:44 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: you will spoil my job
    [4:04:54 PM] Mike Nash says: Not a chance!
    [4:05:01 PM] Mike Nash says: There’s already lots of articles about it
    [4:05:14 PM] Mike Nash says: and I bet, you do not use this account for more than some days at a time, right ?
    [4:05:22 PM] Mike Nash says: Next time it will be some other name
    [4:06:08 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: why all this question
    [4:06:16 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: do you want to join?
    [4:06:25 PM] Mike Nash says: No, I don’t :)

    [4:06:34 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: good
    [4:06:48 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: what is your job?
    [4:06:51 PM] Mike Nash says: I think I could improve the text of your letter a bit - but it is better than 99% of the ones I receive normally
    [4:07:05 PM] Mike Nash says: I work in security industry, we write a personal firewall product
    [4:07:20 PM] Mike Nash says: it also detects things like keyloggers
    [4:07:37 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: very good
    [4:07:45 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: what is your pay?

    I made up a number, and told him, and then added:

    [4:09:12 PM] Mike Nash says: what’s yours?

    He was very very evasive about how much he earned, until he told me that he’d only ever made EUR50 from a woman in the Philipines. Of course, he could be sitting there in a $5000 chair in his private compound saying that for all I know.

    [4:09:56 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: sorry for my late reply
    [4:10:00 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: was busy with a client
    [4:10:07 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: you earn alot of money

    [4:10:09 PM] Mike Nash says: I like the way you call them clients
    [4:10:21 PM] Mike Nash says: It implies a certain professionalism
    [4:10:26 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: thanks

    [4:10:35 PM] Mike Nash says: Cost of living here is higher.
    [4:10:47 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: if i ask you to send me some money will you?

    [4:11:20 PM] Mike Nash says: What would I recieve in exchange for a payment?
    [4:13:17 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: am back
    [4:13:24 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: that is the point
    [4:13:34 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: nobody wants to give anything out for free
    [4:14:21 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: but if i promise you $16million usd i will end up getting more than your pay from you
    [4:14:40 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: you might even go to the extent of taking loan for me
    [4:14:54 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: which is very improper

    This is actually quite sad. I’ve read stories in the paper of this - but never seen the scammers side of it before. He drifted off into trying to get a bit of sympathy from me, and then started to ask me for money...

    [4:34:37 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: can you be of any assistance?
    [4:34:39 PM] Mike Nash says: It’s a Friday - everyone thinks of the weekend, and the pub
    [4:34:41 PM] Mike Nash says: wrong time of day

    [4:34:46 PM] Mike Nash says: No, I can’t really help you
    [4:34:52 PM] Mike Nash says: you’re committing a crime
    [4:35:03 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: i know
    [4:35:11 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: and i accept the fact that i am GUILTY
    [4:35:32 PM] Mike Nash says: But you still won’t tell me how much you make :) I’ll bet your computer is more powerful than mine
    [4:35:41 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: and will not hesitate to be prosecuted when the law catch up with me
    [4:36:17 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: there is no specific amount
    [4:36:33 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: i take whatever you can give me
    [4:36:58 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: even if is 100 or 50 $
    [4:37:04 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: i will seriously appreciate it
    [4:38:06 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: and i know my God will forgive because i pray to him to replenish the pockets of my clients with double of whatever they loss

    At this point, he went all religion on me and talked about washing his sins and so on. Then back to business:

    [4:44:16 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: i take whatever you can give me
    [4:44:23 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: even if is 100 or 50 $
    [4:44:33 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: or more
    [4:44:35 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: i will seriously appreciate it
    [4:45:27 PM] Mike Nash says: I’ll bet you will
    [4:45:38 PM] Mike Nash says: I have this image in my head, of you in the bar after with all your friends
    [4:45:52 PM] Mike Nash says: “This guy thought he was clever, but I still got him to send me $100. Who wants a cigar?”

    [4:46:52 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: (rofl)
    [4:46:56 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: very funny
    [4:47:01 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: i don’t smoke
    [4:47:10 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: i only drink ocassionally

    More talking about money, and then:

    [4:49:31 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: i know at the end of this conversation you will publish our chat
    [4:49:40 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: but that is not a problem
    [4:49:46 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: i am still very sincere
    [4:49:55 PM] Mike Nash says: Actually, I published already just the funny part

    [4:51:53 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: why?
    [4:52:15 PM] Mike Nash says: because usually, if I say something like that, they do not reply and move to next victim. It was different
    [4:52:33 PM] Mike Nash says: It is like a policeman warning a car thief to drive carefully
    [4:52:46 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: ahahahhahaha

    It was getting late, and I was ready to go home... this is where he came up with his classic:

    [4:54:17 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: how do i get you to send me some money?
    [4:54:40 PM] Mike Nash says: Unfortunately, you will not get me to send you money.

    [4:54:58 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: don’t be stinge my friend
    [4:55:20 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: it will not cost you anything to send some money to a stranger who is in need

    [4:55:41 PM] Mike Nash says: You probably make more money than me. Will you send me some?
    [4:56:18 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: yes $16million usd but we will have to finance the transfer together
    [4:56:27 PM] Mike Nash says: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
    [4:56:39 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: yes
    [4:56:44 PM] Mike Nash says: Touche!
    [4:56:51 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: and we share it at the end 50% each
    [4:57:12 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: $8million usd for you
    [4:57:31 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: this is a life time opportunity

    [4:57:33 PM] Mike Nash says: You know, if you ever give up the scam business, you’d have a great career in comedy
    [4:57:53 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: if i were you i will grab opportunities like this with both hands
    [4:58:02 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: and become rich overnight
    [4:58:28 PM] Mike Nash says: but we already know it is a scam, and you hate to do it
    [4:58:30 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: look my friend am not a scammer
    [4:58:32 PM] Mike Nash says: I havent been drinking
    [4:58:42 PM] Mike Nash says: so I am not likely to change my mind
    [4:58:55 PM] Mr. Robert Dutu says: ;(

    Unfortunately, after this gem he pretty much went back to trying to phish me with the $16 million. A shame. I really enjoyed the chat with him (some parts have been edited out for length) - and at some point when he was telling me about life over there (wherever there actually was) I felt sorry for him - he was very, very good at his job and had a good sense of humour about him.

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