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Author Derided by Muslim Students [Association] in Anti Semitic Cartoon Author David Horowitz responded today to his recent controversy at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee. David Horowitz, a popular conservative writer, was derided in a Nazi-like anti-Semitic cartoon, put out by the Muslim Student Association. The cartoon, which was copied and spread around campus, portrays Horowitz, a Jewish man, as a hooked-nose Nazi hiding in a trash can.

Shortly after 9-11, Robert Satloff and his family went to live in Rabat, Morocco. Mr. Satloff was on a mission to uncover the roles Arabs played in helping or hindering Nazi Germany and its allies with the expansion of the Final Solution into North Africa. “It was challenging to be an American living in an Arab capital several months after 9-11 and after the start of the war in the Gulf,” Mr. Satloff said by telephone from his office in Washington, D.C. “It was a challenge being a Jewish American at a time when, in May 2003, there were a...

Muslim And Far-Right Extremists Join In Baltimore To Decry 'Jewish Zionist Power' New York, NY, August 19, 2008 … A small Muslim organization that promotes anti-Semitic conspiracy theories and Holocaust denial recently played host to a gathering in Baltimore that featured speeches by prominent domestic extremists. According to the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), the gathering is just the latest example of the "burgeoning relationship" between far-right and Muslim extremists in the United States. The "International Islamic Conference" held in a Baltimore hotel on August 16 was organized by a small Muslim group called Jamaat al-Muslimeen (JAM), which actively promotes anti-Semitism and...

It is axiomatic that a knowledge of history is a prerequisite for understanding the present. But the question is: How much weight should we give to controversial figures from the past when deciding how to think about current conflicts? According to the authors of a new book about the grand mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin al-Husseini (1893-1974), a man who played a key role in fomenting and exacerbating the struggle between Jews and Arabs during much of the 20th century, the answer is quite a lot. The book, Icon of Evil: Hitler’s Mufti and the Rise of Radical Islam, by...

Jihad by the Numbers Edward Cline In his masterful second volume study of Hitler, Hitler, 1936-1945: Nemesis, Ian Kershaw discusses a phenomenon called "working towards the Führer," in which every Nazi Party organization, member and office automatically, with little or no prompting or prodding by Hitler or his inner circle, worked to realize the ends and policies articulated by Hitler before and after he rose to power in 1933. It was automatic, because to disagree with or have reservations about a single, even minor aspect of Nazi ideology was to court reprimand, censure, dismissal, or even death. Agreement with those...

Ahmadinejad Was Not Mistranslated What Iranian Leaders Really Say about Doing Away with Israel: A Refutation of the Campaign to Excuse Ahmadinejad’s Incitement to Genocide

A Turkish barber accused of swearing at God is sentenced to death in Saudi Arabia, with his family back in Turkey calling on authorities to intervene. Sabri BoÄŸday from the southern Hatay province went to Jeddah in Saudi Arabia 11 years ago and opened a barbershop. According to reports, BoÄŸday argued with his neighbor, an Egyptian tailor, and was arrested after the tailor told the police that he had sworn at God. While BoÄŸday has been in prison for the past 13 months, the Egyptian who made the allegation has disappeared. When he was sentenced to death in the last...

It's important for Muslims to keep reminding us that there is absolutely, positively no relationship between Islam and violence. Otherwise it's easy to forget. The latest excuse for Islamic bonhomie is the documentary "Fitna" by Geert Wilders. In the 15-minute film, showing on YouTube and other Internet sites, the Dutch MP says that far from getting Islam wrong, terrorists understand their religion only too well. "Fitna" (Arabic for "upheaval" or "ordeal") has verses from the Koran -- which Wilders calls a "fascist book" -- artfully interspersed with scenes of carnage from 9/11 and the March, 2004 Madrid train bombing, as...

NEW YORK -- When Beatriz Kehdy was growing up in Sao Paulo, Brazil, she felt uncomfortable with the standards of beauty that she says were a part of the culture in which she was raised. An emphasis on external beauty and the body, she says, became increasingly foreign to her own personal values. Kehdy moved to New York City almost 10 years ago and eventually discovered a sense of place in Islam and in the hijab, or headscarf worn by women in the faith. "When I wear the hijab, I feel more respected, people talk to me with respect," she...

printable version » 03/11/2008 10:17IRAQSilence must not descend on Archbishop of MosulThe appeal was launched by the Archbishop of Kirkuk, 12 days on from Msgr. Rahoo’s abduction. To the Bishops and Christians of the world: “do not remain indifferent to this suffering, do not leave us alone to face this trial”. Amid increased fears, today in Kirkuk 15 Muslim leaders ask once again that the prelate be released. Kirkuk (AsiaNews) – The Iraqi Church is “suffering profoundly” from the “darkness and silence” which reign over the kidnap of Mosul’s Chaldean Archbishop, as anxiety and concern increase among the faithful...

Where are you Rush? Where are you Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity? And what about you, Matt Drudge and Joseph Farah? The cunning Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), which Internet writer Selwyn Duke calls “a group that could be the legal arm of al-Qaeda” is out to take down radio talk show host Michael Savage.

ISRAEL VS GOLIATH ARAB MUSLIMS' FASCIST CAMPAIGN OF GENOCIDE - AS SIMPLE AS THAT 1) Israel is ONLY about survival against the Goliath Arab Muslim that wants to eradicate it. 2) There are two causes of the Arab-Israeli conflict. The first is Arab racism, which rejects any presence that isn’t Arab in its neighborhood; the second is Islamic intolerance which leads to the same rejection. http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=7268 3) The big lie as IF the Arabs (that sinvce the 1960s decided to call themselves as) "Palestinians" are "natives" in the holy land the historic land of the Jews, nothing cound be...

When "brown" Islamo Nazis knock on "white", "Aryan" Nazis' doors Evil allianceIt's not really all new, "white Aryan" Arch-Nazi Adolf Hitler already embraced "brown" & "inferior" Arab Muslim Haj Amin Al-Husseini the 'MUFTI'. That genius-of-evil knew already how to exploit the Arabs, ready to gas them (too), just as soon as they are "done" with them. David Puke Then we read in the late 1990's that the loser KKK's 'David Duke' couldn’t find a "fertile" ground for his feces hatred only in Arab countries (that are full of anti-non-Arab racism). The 'rise' of the HATERS - ALLIANCE came about after...

'ISLAMO - NAZIS' http://somebodyhelpme.info/nazimuslims/nazimuslims.html The Historical Collaboration of Nazis with Muslims/Arabs Amin Al Husseini and Hitler in Berlin (1942)     Husseini meets Heinrich Himmler, Head of Nazi SS BUY THIS DVD!!! "Obsession: Radical Islam's War against the West" Watch Clips from the Video:Trailer(1 minute) Adolph Hitler Meets with Grand Mufti Amin Al Husseini (4min 12sec)XviD or Windows Media Video Alfon Hecks - Former Hitler Youth Officer clip 1 (1min 23sec)XviD or Windows Media Video Alfon Hecks - Former Hitler Youth Officer clip 2 (1min 25sec)XviD or Windows Media Video Islamic Indoctrination Against Jews is Like Nazi Germany(More on this...

Graffiti speaking out against Roman Catholic head Pope Benedict, including one reading "Death to Ratzinger", has been found on walls in Naples ahead of a scheduled visit there by the Pontiff later this month. A source in Italy's anti-terrorist police said they suspected the graffiti was the work of leftist and anarchist groups, but investigations were still ongoing. Graffiti against the Pope as well as Archbishop Angelo Bagnasco, head of the Italian Bishops Conference, also appeared in a number of Italian cities earlier this year after Archbishop Bagnasco made comments that angered the Italian gay community. The Pope, the former...

Iran's nuclear ambitions are just one aspect of the mullahs' iron-fisted approach to maintaining their power. According to an article in the Monday Wall Street Journal (entitled "Domestic Terror in Iran"), the powers that be that run the Islamic Republic are cracking down against "anti-Islam hooligans," as well as "trade union leaders, student activists, journalists and even mullahs opposed to the regime." After describing the recent public execution of seven men, the author, Amir Tahiri, states: "The Mashad hangings, broadcast live on local television, are among a series of public executions ordered by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad last month as part...

Two Saudi women called agents of the feared religious police terrorists, and one sprayed the men with a tearing irritant after the agents stopped them because they did not conform to the kingdom's strict dress code, the religious police said Monday in a statement. One of the women filmed the incident, which took place in the Eastern Province on Thursday, the statement quoted Muhammad bin Marshoud al-Marshoud, head of the Eastern Province branch of the Commission for the Propagation of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice as saying. The commission employs the police unit that enforces the kingdom's strict Islamic...

Look close to home for terror  Pros say maniacs are right here and plotting mayhem in the city  BY THOMAS ZAMBITO DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERSunday, June 17th 2007, 4:00 AM The Al-Farooq mosque in downtown Brooklyn was identified as an Al Qaeda funding source in 2004. Homegrown terrorists include the Brooklyn College grad Syed Hashmi... ...Bronx jazz musician Tarik Shah... ...and Shahwar Matin Siraj. The trail of terror leads into the city's very own backyard. Neighborhoods in Queens, Brooklyn and the Bronx are spawning homegrown radicals, and some are plotting horrific acts to rival the 9/11 attacks, city and federal...

A man who raped a Muslim woman because she showed an interest in Christianity has been jailed for at least five years by a Sydney court. As Abdul Reda Al-Shawany was sentenced today, the Downing Centre District Court heard a harrowing statement from the victim, revealing that her shame and fear had been compounded by her cultural background. The woman, who cannot be named, arrived in Australia as a refugee from Iraq. But she said that even when she was jailed by dictator Saddam Hussein, she never feared for her life the way she did after the rape. "It is...

Given that the top national news story the past couple of days has been Paris Hilton: The Big House or Her Big House?, does anyone else think we are due for a major terrorist attack? I mean, this reminds me of the summer before 9/11 when all we were worried about was Chandra Levy and shark attacks. But it's even WORSE than that. I am NOT saying we DESERVE a terrorist attack as punishment for our shallowness or anything like that. I am just struck by the triviality of the "big news" and wondering if fate or karma or whatever...

Malaysia: 37 books that 'undermine Islam' banned Associated Press, THE JERUSALEM POST Jun. 6, 2007 Malaysia has banned 37 books and other publications on Islam, saying they contain "twisted facts" that could undermine Muslims' faith. Che Din Yusoh, a senior official of the Publications and Quranic Texts Control Division, said in a statement Wednesday that 21 of the items were English-language publications from the US, UK and Jordan, and 16 others were in the Bahasa Malaysia language, published in Malaysia and Indonesia. "These publications can cause confusion and apprehension among Muslims and eventually jeopardize public order," Che Din said in...

Tehran, 30 April (AKI) - A group of supporters of Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Monday forced their way into the campus of top Tehran university Amir Kabir Polytechnic and assaulted a group of student activists who were staging a peaceful rally against the detention of their spokesman Babak Zamanian, who was arrested last week. About a dozen students who were stabbed and attacked with chains were transferred to hospital. A similar attack by Ahmadinejad supporters was carried out Monday against activists at the university of Lorestan, in western Iran. About a dozen government supporters wounded with knives students who...

Warning: don't get hung up on a few disagreements with a democrat Orson Scott Card - we have overwhelmingly more points of agreement. If you disagree with me, see my tagline    :^)Duty. Honor. Country. Once these words could inspire the hearts of patriots. Now, in our benighted era, the elite in our nation sneer at the words and at those who still believe in them. ::: But there is such a thing as honor, and whether we name it by its right name or not, we depend on it. Honor is akin to the word "honest." We say a person...

   Fanatic ... train worker    EXCLUSIVE  Muslim fanatic works on trains By THE INVESTIGATORFebruary 16, 2007           A MUSLIM fanatic who dressed as a suicide bomber at a rally threatening terror attacks has got a job on TRAINS.  Sick Omar Khayam cleans carriages unsupervised for rail giant First Group.And he has even got keys to onboard electrical cupboards.Furious train drivers last night claimed the safety of staff and passengers is being put at risk. One driver added: “It’s an astonishing security breach.“We cannot believe this man is employed in a job giving him access to locked...

[Islamofascism] Das Kalifat (Caliphate) Über Alles? :: January :: 2007 http://seekeronos.blogsome.com/2007/01/19/das-kalifat-caliphate-uber-alles-2/ Welcome to Seeker's Jar! Unashamedly Pro-American, Pro-Christian, and Opposed to Dhimmitude. On my mind...19 January 2007 7:32 am Das Kalifat (Caliphate) Über Alles? The link between Nazism and Islam is quite deep, apparently. I’ll be adding this to the laundry list of things on my mind to explore in greater depth.For now, have a lookie at this piece of work: What galls me and scares me most is how these people are gearing for total war in a way that would make Clausewitz and Bismarck both blush: even to...

A prize-winning Iranian nuclear scientist has died in mysterious circumstances, according to Radio Farda, which is funded by the U.S. State Department and broadcasts to Iran. An intelligence source suggested that Ardeshire Hassanpour, 44, a nuclear physicist, had been assassinated by Mossad, the Israeli security service. According to Radio Farda, Iranian reports of Hassanpour’s death emerged on Jan. 21 after a delay of six days, giving the cause as “gas poisoning”. The Iranian reports did not say how or where Hassanpour was poisoned but his death was said to have been announced at a conference on nuclear safety. Rheva Bhalla...

A citizens' group in Berlin turned out this week for a candlelight vigil to protest plans for a new mosque in their neighborhood. It will be the first to be built in the former East Berlin, where almost no Muslims live but no one can quite explain why it shouldn't be there. The community has just won approval for a new mosque in an eastern district of the German capital. At the end of a rundown suburban street lined with bare trees and flaking apartment facades, a small group of people hold candles or colored Glo-sticks. A few hold signs...

"White" KKK @ "brown" (Iran) Nazi conf. on Holocaust 6,000,000 Victims "White" Duke at the "brown" Adolf Ahmadinejad One of the ugliest parts of the Nazi conference and so-called- "questioning" the Holocaust, was that loser desperate miserable that couldn't find any audiences in the US, The former KKK leader D. Duke, LOL. He, loser- Duke! What would white-Hitler do with brown-Ahmadinejad's ass? Ahmadinejad's Nazis

Israel prepares to allow Palestinian troops into Gaza By Tim Butcher in Jerusalem Last Updated: 1:58am GMT 15/11/2006 Israel is on the brink of a policy U-turn that would authorise 1,500 armed Palestinian soldiers based in Jordan to move into the West Bank and Gaza Strip. While Israel sees the move as a way to counterbalance the growing power of Hamas, such a policy shift could worsen the internecine violence between rival Palestinian factions which has claimed scores of lives this year. It reverses years of strict military sanctions imposed by Israel on the territories because of fears that weapons...

Al-QAEDA is determined to acquire the technology to carry out a nuclear attack on the West, a senior Foreign Office official warned yesterday.She said that Osama bin Laden's terrorist network was trawling the world for the materials and know-how to mount an attack using nuclear, chemical or biological weapons. The latest warning echoes the remarks last week of the MI5 director-general, Dame Eliza Manningham-Buller, that future terror attacks in Britain could involve weapons of mass destruction. Asked if she had any doubt that al-Qaeda wanted to obtain the materials to carry out a nuclear attack on the West, the Foreign...

Israeli warplanes fired shots over an unarmed German vessel backing up the UN mission off the Lebanese coast, the German defence ministry has said. The incident, which Israel has so far denied, was one of two involving the Israeli military and German forces in the region this week, defence spokesman Thomas Raabe told reporters Friday. "There have been two incidents, one involving a helicopter and another the Alster" a German electronic surveillance and reconnaissance ship. Raabe said six Israeli F-16 fighter planes had fired shots into the air over the Alster on Tuesday while the ship was in international waters...

MURDERED schoolboy Kriss Donald pleaded: "I'm only 15. What did I do?" as he was beaten up and dragged into the back of a car by his abductors, a court heard yesterday. The witness, Zahid Mohammed, 22, was originally accused of taking part in the murder. He pleaded guilty at the High Court in Glasgow in November 2004 to assault to injury on Kriss and attempting to pervert the course of justice. He was given a five-year jail term and was released on licence on Wednesday after applying for parole... Imran Shahid, Mohammed Faisal Mushtaq, 27, and Zeeshan Shahid, 29,...

Mozart censor faces a backlashBy Roger Boyes  'Muhammad' opera is becoming test of how many concessions West should make Kerstin Harms has stuck by decision to reject the opera THE German Government tried yesterday to defuse an international row that erupted after a nervous opera house called off a Mozart performance because it featured the decapitated head of the Prophet Muhammad. The opera, Idomeneo, has become a test case of how far the West should go in making concessions to the Islamic world. The Deutsche Oper, one of Europe’s top opera houses, scrapped the production for fear of an...

According to the website Islam Memo, one Christian was killed in Baghdad after the Pope's speech two days ago. The speech created a wave of anger throughout the Islamic world, including Iraq. A poster has been placed in many Baghdad mosques for the previously unknown group, "Kataab Ashbal Al Islam Al Salafi,". This group threatens to kill all Christians in Iraq if the Pope does not apologize in three days in front of the whole world to Mohammed.

BAGHDAD, Iraq — U.S. forces have arrested a senior Al Qaeda terrorist and personal associate of the group's new leader, the top U.S. military spokesman in Iraq said Thursday.

ISLAMIST fanatics attacked us and yearn to destroy us. The Muslim civilization of the Middle East has failed comprehensively and will continue to generate violence. The only way to deal with faith-poisoned terrorists is to kill them. And the world's only hope for long-term peace is for moderate Muslims - by far the majority around the globe - to recapture their own faith. But a rotten core of American extremists is out to make it harder for them. The most repugnant trend in the American shouting match that passes for a debate on the struggle with Islamist terrorism isn't the...

Should he have spoken? By Roger ScrutonIn 1968 the products of the postwar baby boom decided to seize the European future and to jettison the European past. In that same year Enoch Powell delivered to the Birmingham Conservatives the speech known forever after as “Rivers of Blood”: a speech that cost him his political career, and which, on one plausible interpretation, made the issue of immigration undiscussable in British politics for close to forty years. It is a speech that raises in its acutest form the question of truth: What place is there for truth in public life, and...

HANINE, Lebanon (AFP) - Strawberry jam, bullets and a lock of human hair. These are among the mundane and macabre war trophies displayed at a makeshift roadside museum in this southern Lebanese village. Somebody has laid the items out neatly on the cement driveway in front of a garage. A fence made from two rows of string is designed to keep people from getting too close. A yellow flag of the Hezbollah Shiite militia flies over one corner of the display, and Hezbollah posters are stuck to a wall above a collection of seized Israeli food: cans of tuna and...

Two bombs in two crowded trains. Neither bomb, though, exploded. It would have been one of the most lethal terrorist attacks since Sept. 11, 2001. And it was planned not for Britain, not for Indonesia, not for the U.S., but for Germany, of all places. Suddenly the threat to the people there seems very real. German authorities say two people placed suitcase bombs on regional trains that departed from Cologne's main station on July 31. One suspect, a Lebanese student enrolled in a prep program at Kiel University in northern Germany, has been arrested. Police are searching for the other...

A senior military spokesman says there is clear evidence that Iran has directly aided insurgents in Iraq. Those comments follow Iraq's deadliest month since the U.S.-led invasion, in terms of civilian casualties. In the Baghdad neighborhood of al Mashtal Thursday, there were the familiar scenes that have become daily reminders of Iraq's insurgency -- burned out cars, wounded rushed to hospitals, and U.S. and Iraqi troops cleaning up the mess after another suicide bombing. One car blast about 100 meters from the al-Rashad police station killed two civilians and injured at least five others. Sectarian violence in Iraq culminated in...

Hizbollah handed out bundles of cash on Friday to people whose homes were wrecked by Israeli bombing, consolidating the Iranian-backed group's support among Lebanon's Shi'ites and embarrassing the Beirut government. "This is a very, very reasonable amount. It is not small," said Ayman Jaber, 27, holding a wad he had just picked up from Hizbollah of $12,000 in banknotes wrapped in tissue. Israeli and U.S. officials have voiced concern that Hizbollah will entrench its popularity by moving fast -- with Iranian money -- to help people whose homes were destroyed or damaged in the 34-day conflict with Israel. Hizbollah has...

Excerpt - The airline terror plot to blow up at least seven transatlantic jets was intended to mark the fifth anniversary of September 11, intelligence sources have revealed. But it was not executed because its alleged conspirators were too 'inexperienced' to carry it out. The claims, by senior Pakistani security officials, came as Scotland Yard requested more time to question 23 of the 24 suspects arrested since last week. The officials also alleged that many of those held learnt how to handle weapons and bomb-making training by reading textbooks. A highly placed source said: 'Look at their ages ... their...

Twisted young British parents planned to sacrifice their precious baby in the evil cause of jihad by mass murder. Fanatical terror suspect Abdula Ahmed Ali, 25, and his wife, Cossor, 23, are among those being interrogated by police as suspects in the massive plot to attack trans-Atlantic flights in midair. What the outwardly normal couple had secretly plotted is almost too horrifying to consider, cops said. The Alis planned to use 6-month-old son Zain's baby bottle as a liquid bomb, blowing themselves and their child up, along with hundreds of others aboard the flight. [snip] To their stunned friends and...

August 14, 2006 Fitzgerald: Hold your huzzas The President has referred to “Islamic fascists.” Hold your huzzas. "Islamic fascists" has both good and bad points. It is a great improvement over that idiotic phrase the "war on terror." It is no longer possible for our government, or other Western governments, to pretend that Islam has nothing to do with the assorted terror plots foiled, or in some cases carried out, all over the world. The Administration must have sensed the fury directed at it not least from those whom it might have counted on to support it -- and who,...

BOSTON --Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney on Thursday activated the National Guard to help with security at Logan International Airport for the first time since the Sept. 11 terror attacks, after a terror plot targeting U.S.-bound flights was foiled in London. The security alert was raised at Logan and airports around the nation early Thursday after officials in Great Britain disrupted a plan to blow up airplanes from England to the United States. U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said the plot appeared to be engineered by al-Qaida, the terrorist group that hijacked two planes from Logan on Sept. 11, 2001,...

In the last few days senior Iranian and Syrian officials, including Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad, have stepped up their statements on the war, with the Syrian regime's mouthpieces in the media following suit.The following are excerpts:Iranian Revolutionary Guards Commander: We Must Keep the Hatred of America Burning in Our Hearts Until the Moment of Revenge Arrives The Iranian conservative news agency Fars reported that Iranian Revolutionary Guards Commander Yahya Raheem Safavi gave a speech before forces from the Revolutionary Guards and the Basij [1] on July 30, 2006, in which he demanded that they be prepared to act against Israel...

One war By Frank Gaffney, July 31, 2006 (Washington, D.C.): On September 11, 2001, a freedom-loving nation was attacked by a terrorist organization operating from the territory of a sovereign state with the acquiescence, if not the active complicity, of the latter's government. The United States retaliated with what can only be called a "disproportionate response." How We Fight Terrorists America launched air and ground assaults on Afghanistan, aimed at destroying not only the al Qaeda safe havens but toppling the Taliban regime. We damaged or destroyed critical Afghan infrastructure so as to deny its use to the enemy. Civilian...

FROM WND'S JERUSALEM BUREAU 'Black spinster' label pinned on Condi Rice Palestinian media use racist terms including 'colored dark skin lady' Posted: July 31, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern   By Aaron Klein© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com   Condoleezza Rice depicted in Al Quds as pregnant with a monkey. The image's caption read, "Rice speaks about birth of new Middle East." JERUSALEM – While U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has been in the Middle East meeting regional alongside Israel's military campaign in Lebanon, media outlets controlled by Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah party the past few days have been using racist rhetoric...

LARNACA, Cyprus — The U.N. humanitarian chief accused Hezbollah on Monday of "cowardly blending" among Lebanese civilians and causing the deaths of hundreds during two weeks of cross-border violence with Israel.

Fellow TravelersBy David HorowitzFrontPageMagazine.com | July 18, 2006 It is in the nature of Stalinism for its adherents to make a certain kind of lying – and not only to others but first of all to themselves – a fundamental part of their lives. It is always a mistake to assume that Stalinists do not know the truth about the political reality they espouse. If they don’t know the truth (or all of it) one day, they know it the next, and it makes absolutely no difference to them politically. For their loyalty is to something other than the truth....