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Subject: KERRY DISCHARGE - THE JIMMY CARTER LEGACY CONTINUES Words of Captain Donald L. Nelson, JAG corps USN ret. "I was on active duty as a U.S. Navy JAG when all of this was going on 25 to 30 years ago, and so was Mark F. Sullivan, who at all relevant times was the personal JAG to J. William Middendorf, then the Secretary of the Navy. We are trying to break this absolutely true story nationwide, i.e., Fox News, C-Span, and hopefully the major networks. We are positive that John Kerry was one of those dishonorably dismissed from the Navy...

Ordinarily, the retirement of a TV newsman would be something to be more or less passed over in silence by friend and foe alike. But the retirement of Dan Rather as anchorman of CBS news has caused so much spin in the media that some of this spin may become "well-known facts" by sheer repetition unless challenged by real facts. One popular spin is that it is a shame that a long and distinguished career should be judged by one unfortunate error like the forged documents that Rather relied on to question President Bush's National Guard service. Those who believe...

Following upon Thomas Sowell's excellent essay on the MSM's continued protection of John Kerry from any negative press, I came across several additional pieces of the puzzle. Sowell makes the point that Kerry never signed his Form 180, making public his Navy record, while Bush did so for his ANG record. However, a further look at Kerry's DD-214 -- the document issued to every US servicemember who leaves active duty after more than 180 days of service -- shows several interesting things the NY Times and Boston Globe would kill to keep secret. Note that: 1. Kerry was separated from...

The recent resignation of CNN's news director, Eason Jordan, after his outrageous remarks about our military at an international forum were reported on the Internet, is only the latest in a series of media scandals, of which Dan Rather's forged documents were just one. Media bias does not consist in having liberal or conservative opinions but in how you do your job -- or don't do it. One document whose authenticity is not likely to be questioned by the mainstream media is the honorable discharge on Senator John Kerry's web site. Yet who in the major media has investigated why...

The recent resignation of CNN's news director, Eason Jordan, after his outrageous remarks about our military at an international forum were reported on the Internet, is only the latest in a series of media scandals, of which Dan Rather's forged documents were just one. Media bias does not consist in having liberal or conservative opinions but in how you do your job -- or don't do it.One document whose authenticity is not likely to be questioned by the mainstream media is the honorable discharge on Senator John Kerry's web site. Yet who in the major media has investigated why that...

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On 11/1/04, the day before the election, Thomas Lipscomb, published in _The New York Sun_ and article entitled, "Kerry's Discharge Is Questioned by An Ex-JAG Officer. The article is available at the Sun site after sign-up but appears to be quoted in full at "www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=4477170" in a message posted by "dieselfuel" on 11/04/04.Libscomb, who appears to have published several articles regarding Kerry's discharge and failure to release military records (SF-180), cites in his 11/1/04 article, a retired Navy JAG Captain, Mark Sullivan, regarding Kerry's missing honoarable discharge certificate.Lipscomb also cites "a member of the Harvard Law School admissions committee" who...

Whatever happened to the story about Kerry's less than honorable discharge? Did it go away with the concession speech?

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A post on the Swift Vets' forum contained the following startling announcement: A TO THE POINT HEADS-UPI had a conversation with Bill Middendorf earlier today. Bill was the Secretary of the Navy from April 1974 to January 1978. I got to know Bill well when he was Ronald Reagan\'s Ambassador to the OAS and we worked together on support for the Contras.Bill has agreed to publicly state that to the best of his knowledge and recollection, John Kerry was dishonorably discharged from the military and fought to have this reversed while he (Bill)was SECNAV, which Bill of course refused to...

A TO THE POINT HEADS-UP I had a conversation with Bill Middendorf earlier today. Bill was the Secretary of the Navy from April 1974 to January 1978. I got to know Bill well when he was Ronald Reagan\'s Ambassador to the OAS and we worked together on support for the Contras. Bill has agreed to publicly state that to the best of his knowledge and recollection, John Kerry was dishonorably discharged from the military and fought to have this reversed while he (Bill)was SECNAV, which Bill of course refused to do. When Carter became president, Kerry secured the honorable discharge...

A former secretary of the Navy is urging Sen. John Kerry to open up his personnel files to resolve the question of whether the Democratic presidential nominee received a less-than-honorable discharge from the Navy. William Middendorf, the Navy chief from 1974 to 1977, told WorldNetDaily today that Kerry, who began inactive reserve status in 1972, would have been issued a document three years later either for a reserve reaffiliation or a separation discharge. An "honorable discharge" from 1978 appears on the Kerry campaign's website, but a Navy lawyer who served under Middendorf believes that document is a substitute for one...

NavyChief, researcher of Kerry less than honorable, dishonorable discharge researcher on with Mark Levin/WABC tonight!!!!!!! RADIO LINK

A former officer in the Navy's Judge Advocate General Corps Reserve has built a case that Senator Kerry was other than honorably discharged from the Navy by 1975, The New York Sun has learned. The "honorable discharge" on the Kerry Web site appears to be a Carter administration substitute for an original action expunged from Mr. Kerry's record, according to Mark Sullivan, who retired as a captain in the Navy's Judge Advocate General Corps Reserve in 2003 after 33 years of service as a judge advocate. Mr. Sullivan served in the office of the Secretary of the Navy between 1975...

While this writer was in the research process regarding allegations that Kerry had received a less than honorable discharge from the Navy, which was later changed, others were similarly engaged. Consequently, there are emerging simultaneously a number of allegations to that effect on the Internet; and the writer finds them to be generally true. Although the records Kerry has posted on his official site do not show an earlier discharge; and, incidentally, Kerry has finally admitted that he has not posted all of his records despite earlier claims that all were posted. Kerry publicly admitted during an interview with Tom...

I have been working with two retired Navy Captain Judge Advocate General Corps [attorneys for my non-military friends & colleagues] who have put exhaustive research into the circumstances surrounding Kerry's separation from the Naval Reserve after it was discovered that he was meeting with senior officials of an enemy government in time of war while he was still a naval officer. These two guys, Don Nelson and Mark Sullivan, have both put many MANY hundreds of hours of research into this effort and have produced the attached 4 page document of FACTS that all point towards an Other Than Honorable...

KERRY'S NON-HONORABLE DISCHARGE Exclusive: Earl Lively makes solid case senator left Navy under a cloud Posted: October 31, 2004 1:00 a.m. Eastern By Earl Lively © 2004 There is overwhelming evidence that the Navy gave John Kerry either a dishonorable discharge or an undesirable discharge – which is the equivalent of a dishonorable discharge without the felony conviction – and that, as a result of such discharge, he was stripped of all of his famous but questionable Navy awards and medals. And the kicker? The evidence is on his website! Kerry's oh-so-clever handlers evidently depended on the ignorance of the...

OK, it seems Dishonorable Discharge is probably not the right title. Kerry could only have received one of those if he was court-martialed and convicted, which would be part of the public record. However, he most likely received a less-than-honorable discharge. Earl Lively, a 30+ year veteran of the military makes a convincing case here. You may remember that Colonel Lively was the Director of Operations at Texas Air National Gaurd Headquarters when Bush served. His contention, as was mine in an earlier post, is that the Navy is "stonewalling" the release of documentation that would incriminate Kerry to cover...

The Kerry other-than-honorable discharge story seems to have some compelling evidence in favor of it. All the activity suggests this story will break tonight. We’ve seen this smoke before. I hope there’s some fire behind it this time.

<p>I have felt for quite some time that this would be the October surprise that takes Kerry down. Hopefully, it isn't too late.</p> <p>I've gathered all the articles we've posted to the site over the last month, and put all the links on this page for your enjoyment.</p>

There's been a lot of confusion, side-stepping and odd silences regarding John Kerry's departure from the Navy. The Navy Chief who's been pursuing this doggedly is quietly toiling away. A DC rally addressing this issue, scheduled for today, Sunday, has been canceled. The Swift Vets and POWs For Truth are silent. I have spoken with Don Nelson, as well as the Swift Vets, and can vouch for the authenticity of the original letter posted here. As for the truth, there's an all-out effort to get at it and present it with every "t" crossed amd every "i" dotted so the...

There's been a lot of confusion, side-stepping and odd silences regarding John Kerry's departure from the Navy. The Navy Chief who's been pursuing this doggedly is quietly toiling away. A DC rally addressing this issue, scheduled for today, Sunday, has been canceled. The Swift Vets and POWs For Truth are silent. I have spoken with Don Nelson, as well as the Swift Vets, and can vouch for the authenticity of the original letter posted here. As for the truth, there's an all-out effort to get at it and present it with every "t" crossed amd every "i" dotted so the...

There is overwhelming evidence that the Navy gave John Kerry either a dishonorable discharge or an undesirable discharge – which is the equivalent of a dishonorable discharge without the felony conviction – and that, as a result of such discharge, he was stripped of all of his famous but questionable Navy awards and medals. And the kicker? The evidence is on his website!

Had a thought tonight. Kerry is a Life Member of VVA (Vietnam Veterans of America). VVA fell out of VVAW. When folks join VVA, they are required to furnish their DD-214. I wonder if there is a copy of that lovely form anywhere on record in the VVA offices???? Anyone know???

Kerry's non-honorable discharge Exclusive: Earl Lively makes solid case senator left Navy under a cloud There is overwhelming evidence that the Navy gave John Kerry either a dishonorable discharge or an undesirable discharge – which is the equivalent of a dishonorable discharge without the felony conviction – and that, as a result of such discharge, he was stripped of all of his famous but questionable Navy awards and medals. And the kicker? The evidence is on his website!

Attention, Arizona FReepers in the Sedona area. We need you help to break the story about the Kerry less than honorable discharge. On a thread from yesterday, it was said that retired Col. Thomas Lockhart had worked with the Sec. of the Navy and knew about the discharge. I have located Lockhart in Sedona, AZ and have been calling him for about 24 hours. His phone is busy, probably to keep the press away. I have his address. If one of you can send me FReepmail, I'll give it to you. Can you pay him a visit and get the...

Chief Petty Officer Troy Jenkins is calling on all Patriots Do you really want to defeat Kerry as President? Do you really feel deep down in your heart that this is the most important Presidential election in our history? Will you sit by and watch as others try to defeat him? Brothers and Sisters, how many people will be on the Capitol steps this Sunday, surrounded by media outlets and reporters from various organizations?

In the interview she asks him: "Is there ever a question about you being dishonorably discharged" and he replies something to the effect: "oh no". could this be BIG? Sounds to me she KNEW SOMETHING!!

October Surprise? The Truth Behind Kerry's Military Discharge. What's Kerry Hiding?: "I have nothing to hide. I want you to ask me questions." --John Kerry, Reuters, August 3, 2004 The only 180 John Kerry hasn't accomplished in his litany of flip-flops throughout his campaign is Standard Form 180, the paperwork necessary for the complete release of his military records from the Department of Defense repository. The Kerry campaign and website continue to claim he has released all military records. In fact, they've released the few documents painting the senator in a favorable light. There are at least 100 pages, promising...

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Navy chief on Swiftvets.com is saying they FOUND IT!!

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Tuesday, October 26, 2004 October Surprise? The Truth Behind Kerry's Military Discharge. What's Kerry Hiding?: "I have nothing to hide. I want you to ask me questions."--John Kerry, Reuters, August 3, 2004 The only 180 John Kerry hasn't accomplished in his litany of flip-flops throughout his campaign is Standard Form 180, the paperwork necessary for the complete release of his military records from the Department of Defense repository. The Kerry campaign and website continue to claim he has released all military records. In fact, they've released the few documents painting the senator in a favorable light. There are at...

Thursday, October 28, 2004 John Kerry's Dishonorable Discharge Through a very reliable source, I received a copy of the following e-mail to Sean Hannity asking his help in exposing the truth about John Kerry's discharge papers fromteh US Navy. The author is a retired former Navy lawyer and he references the former personal lawyer to then Secretary of the Navy J. William Middleton

Through a very reliable source, I received a copy of the following e-mail to Sean Hannity asking his help in exposing the truth about John Kerry's discharge papers fromteh US Navy. The author is a retired former Navy lawyer and he references the former personal lawyer to then Secretary of the Navy J. William Middleton. If these two gentlemen can shed light on the truth of John Kerry's record, then the American people have a right to know. Subject: Fw: THE JIMMY CARTER LEGACY CONTINUES Sean,I was on active duty as a U.S. Navy lawyer when all of this was...

THIS MESSAGE BROUGHT TO YOU BY: http://Vets4Bush.comURGENT: Getting the message out! Especially in Battleground States I don't know about you, but 99.9 percent of the people on my email lists are ALREADY voting for President Bush. Sooooo, we need to find another way to reach out to people of the other persuasion or fence sitters. I propose this one page discussion of a "Kerry Dishonorable Discharge" from "The Federalist Patriot" See and print it at: http://opditch.com/KerryDischarge.html Distribution Method Suggestions: Print multiple copies out and put it in Trick or Treet bags Sunday night when the kids come calling. Print multiple...

This is a rather long, but most interesting read:Wednesday, October 13, 2004 Was Kerry's original discharge less than honorable? In a front-page article in today's New York Sun entitled "Mystery Surrounds Kerry's Navy Discharge," reporter Thomas Lipscomb asserts that in all probability, Sen. John F. Kerry originally received a less-than-honorable discharge from the United States Naval Reserve — a discharge that was only upgraded to honorable after President Carter's 1977 executive order proclaiming a presidential amnesty for Vietnam War resisters. My purpose in this post is to provide links to and more extended quotes from the documents that Mr. Lipscomb's...

"Never suppose that in any possible situation, or under any circumstances, it is best for you to do a dishonorable thing..." --Thomas Jefferson "Reporting for duty"? For a guy who's hitched his entire presidential campaign to his military service record, John Kerry sure is parsimonious when it comes to releasing that record. As noted in this column on more than one occasion, Kerry has consistently refused to sign a Standard Form 180 authorizing the Department of Defense to release all of his records. George W. Bush's military records were so spotless that Dan Rather gleefully trotted out some fabricated documents...

"Never suppose that in any possible situation, or under any circumstances, it is best for you to do a dishonorable thing..." --Thomas Jefferson "Reporting for duty"? For a guy who's hitched his entire presidential campaign to his military service record, John Kerry sure is parsimonious when it comes to releasing that record. As noted in this column on more than one occasion, Kerry has consistently refused to sign a Standard Form 180 authorizing the Department of Defense to release all of his records.

Mystery Surrounds Kerry's Navy Discharge An official Navy document on Senator Kerry's campaign Web site listed as Mr. Kerry's "Honorable Discharge from the Reserves" opens a door on a well kept secret about his military service. The document is a form cover letter in the name of the Carter administration's secretary of the Navy, W. Graham Claytor. It describes Mr. Kerry's discharge as being subsequent to the review of "a board of officers." This in it self is unusual. There is nothing about an ordinary honorable discharge action in the Navy that requires a review by a board of officers.

Why are we talking about Teresa Heinz-Kerry's rude comments about Mrs. Bush instead of focusing our efforts on Kerry's likely dishonorable discharge from the Navy? Nobody seems to mention the fact anymore that Kerry will not release his full military records and this is getting virtually no play by Drudge et al. An October Surprise is supposed to happen in October, after all.

Thomas Lipscomb wrote in the New York Sun newspaper on 10/13/04 the details of what is probably evidence Kerry received a less than honorable discharge in 1972. The article details Kerry's discharge in 1976, six years after his enlistment should have concluded, as a result of a review by a "board of officers" using as their "authority of reference", sections of the US Code dealing with improving involuntary separations from the service. This review was at the direction of President Carter whose first presidental action was to pardon draft dodgers and war protesters. If Kerry would sign Form 180 releasing...

Top GOPers in 'Major Effort' to Uncover Kerry's Naval Discharge Top Republicans in Washington are trying to determine whether or not John Kerry received an honorable discharge from the Navy, the reporter who's taken the lead in probing Kerry's naval records said Sunday.

John Kerry is a thoroughly reprehensible person. When Lynn Cheney commented on Kerry, she said, “This is not a good man.” she was articulating a truism that sadly was a grossly inadequate means of describing the loathsome presidential wannabe. I recently got a note from my old Battalion Commander asking if there is any substance to the controversy surrounding Kerry’s military discharge. I responded, “You damnbetcha!” I have previously written about questions surrounding Kerry’s discharge (9/10/04 http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/9/9/154130.shtml) and the ginned up DD214 (8/23/04 http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/8/23/95437.shtml). The growing conventional wisdom (in military circles) is that Kerry GOT a discharge but it was...

Kerry Military Discharge Deception Geoff Metcalf Monday, Oct. 18, 2004 John Kerry is a thoroughly reprehensible person. When Lynn Cheney commented on Kerry, she said, “This is not a good man.” she was articulating a truism that sadly was a grossly inadequate means of describing the loathsome presidential wannabe. I recently got a note from my old Battalion Commander asking if there is any substance to the controversy surrounding Kerry’s military discharge. I responded, “You damnbetcha!” I have previously written about questions surrounding Kerry’s discharge (9/10/04 http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/9/9/154130.shtml) and the ginned up DD214 (8/23/04 http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/8/23/95437.shtml). The growing conventional wisdom (in military...

Lipscomb's latest piece examining Kerry's Navy service appeared in the New York Sun and the Jewish World Review. John O'Neil of SBVT issued a press release after the Nightline show this past week, the last paragraph of which contiained this teaser: "Further, one has to wonder why ABC News will not address the serious questions as to why John Kerry only received an honorable discharge through the act of then President Carter, seven years after his discharge, and had to have all of his military citations reissued, on the same day, when he became a United States Senator in 1985....

Top Republicans in Washington are trying to determine whether or not John Kerry received an honorable discharge from the Navy, the reporter who's taken the lead in probing Kerry's naval records said Sunday. "I've already received an indication from high-ranking Republican officials that, basically, there is a major effort going on in Washington to find proof" of the type of discharge Kerry received, New York Sun reporter Thomas Lipscomb told WABC Radio's Steve Malzberg. Last week, Lipscomb quoted a spokesman for Sen. John Warner, who was Secretary of the Navy at the time, as saying his boss "has no recollection...

Steve Malzberg interviewed Thomas Lipscomb this morning. Listen to it now by visiting my website and scrolling to the bottom of the page.

Steve Malzberg interviewing Thomas Lipscomb regarding Kerry Discharge on WABC Radio

Some sharp cookie at Ted Nugent's site brought this up. Why does J Effin Kerry's 214 indicate he was discharged as an Ensign, wasn't he a LTJG? Someone? Anyone?