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If that should come to pass, then we will find ourselves in another Civil War.

DO NOT FILL OUT THEIR CENSUS FORM MORE THAN ANSWERING HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE IN YOUR HOUSEHOLD... THAT IS ALL THEY ARE CONSTITUTIONALLY ALLOWED TO ASK.

CHANGE YOUR W4 WITHHOLDING STATUS TO NINE (9) DEPENDENTS, THEN DON’T FILE A TAX RETURN, OR ELSE GET AN EXTENSION.

WITHDRAW ALL MONEY OUT OF BANK, EXCEPT WHAT IS NECESSARY TO PAY IMMEDIATE MONTHLY EXPENSES. CONVERT YOUR DOLLARS TO SILVER (GOLD IS TOO DIFFICULT TO MAKE REGULAR TRANSACTIONS WITH).

PAY CASH AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE... AVOID DEBIT CARD TRANSACTIONS.

KEEP OUT OF DEBT! DITCH THOSE CREDIT CARDS!

WE CAN DISCONNECT FROM THEIR SYSTEM, STARVE THEM OF REVENUE, AND MAKE THEM BLEED TO DEATH.

Hey , I come from the first original city of dead voters, ACORN and the list is endless

Than you for the nice comments. I doubt you learned much though. You’ve always seemed up to speed to me.

As for being a slacker, I know better their that. I know you were just kidding though.

Thanks for your friendship Exit82

Shhh. Don’t spread that around. I have a reputation to maintain.

Good night.

To elaborate: the quoted news site seems, upon a little digging, to be the European equivalent of a White Supremacist organization. Intriguing stories from there seem to have no basis beyond quoting some other vapid extremist.

Of course, what makes the item intriguing is that this administration isn’t above doing such things, and many are just waiting to hear exactly such a story reporting the truth.

Louis, I think that this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship.

LOL

About 2 years before the 2004 primary, Pat Tommey (a 3 term conservative congressman) decided to challenge Arlen. He seemed to be a perfect match for Santorum. Conservatives here worked hard to help Toomey win. Santorum (and Bush) both backed Arlen saying that he was with us when it counts.

Rick was begged, cajoled, and pleaded with. He wouldn’t back off Specter. Toomey lost by about 50.5% to 49.5% or about a swing of around 6,000 votes. Had they endorsed the conservative over the obvious liberal Specter, Specter would have been history.

It was after that refusal that some of us started to research his votes and he was not at all what he pretended to be and not at all what the dems make him out to be. From spending, to tax code manipulation, to massive spending for AIDS in Africa and pandering to unions, and voting against gun rights, he was only marginally better than Arlen. He was asked to back some pro gun legislation but refused to do anything until after the election, but still wanted our unending efforts for his campaign. When asked about an issue, he would never accept anything as constructive criticism but as a personal attack on him and he responded angrily.

Then there were a host of personal issues that just about ticked off everyone. What he did was not as bad as the way he handled himself. He acted as though the rules were different for him than the rest of us.

He had 750,000 votes less than in 2000. Some try to claim that it was the result of efforts by the left. The truth is that when his record was exposed and when he endorsed a pro abort Specter over a pro life Toomey, he was seen by the pro life dem voters as just another hack who put party above principle. Those people voted for him in the past because he was seen as an uncompromising supporter of the unborn and they voted for him despite their other areas of disagreement. He utterly destroyed that image and he lost. The supposed loss caused by the left was a bogus claim because those voters never voted for him in the first place.

BTW, these same pro life dems will also cast Casey aside because he also turned his back on the unborn.

Integrity and trust are more important to voters (for GOP candidates) than many people are willing to acknowledge. They will vote for someone who is seen positively in that light and will toss them aside when not. Otoh, for dems candidates, lying and cheating are resume enhancers.

Agree 100%. (Except for the fact that it's only true in MY case. ;*)

We can win. We MUST win. We will win!

Good night, not-so-Badray.

Thanks, but I doubt that I am the only one.

Look, we are all passionate about this. We all (or most of us) see that our liberty and our country is threatened, and we all like to believe that our way is right (In my case, it is true LOL) but we are on the same side (even the libertarians are for small government and are not the enemy, as some claim they are.

Reagan also said that if we don’t worry about who gets the credit, it is amazing what we can accomplish. That’s also true if we don’t work at cross purposes. I really don’t think that we are. We can win. We will win.

OK....now I understand why the Dems don’t care that most Americans opposr their monster health care bill.

The Dems don’t worry about voter backlash because this ‘univerals voter registration’ will increase their voter base of supporters for bigger government handouts.

Once again, you have shown that you are, indeed, “The Professor”.

Really excellent information—thanks—I learned a few things.

I’m still amazed you have just under 97,000 posts and 567 threads in almost 12 years.

I have 16 threads and just over 14,000 posts in 11 years.

I’m such a slacker. ;)

btw, whenever I "gave" it was always within the parameters of decency. I can tell that about you too.

We probably got into it pretty good, but we ARE on the same side, and I'm glad you see that.

I don't deny that I can "give it" as good as I got. I've never backed down from my principles, and tend to get more animated when I get bullied. I don't intimidate easily.

Can't say that I remember tangling with you, but I never quite understood the animus against Santorum. Then again, I'm not a Pennsylvanian either. IMO, the best thing to happen to the Republican party in recent years was to lose that disgusting Arlen Specter. The Dems deserve him.

If you want to be disgusted with party politics, you should be a Republican in Ohio. Think about our Senators and Governor. I worked in the gubernatorial primary in 06 to keep out Taft party guy, Jim Petro, and then worked on the unsuccessful Blackwell campaign. He's my hero. Then we've had DeWine and Voinovich. Arghhh!

When I say the Republican party is the best vehicle for a conservative victory, I definitely mean a reformed party, inspired and motivated by conservatives inside and outside the party.

The Republican platform is strongly conservative. They just have to live up to the principles they're supposed to believe in. That's what my husband and I are helping them to "understand."

I get accused of ‘hating’ on a daily basis whenever I disagree with someone on another forum that is supposed to be conservative. Maybe I am just more aware of it and react to it.

I am just recently back from a 3 year banning (after several suspensions). When I remind you of it, you may remember that you and I tangled back then — fiercely. You gave as good as you got. That goes with the territory.

I posted something really uncomplimentary about Rick Santorum — his record. I was torn to shreds. I didn’t accuse him of anything vile. I didn’t make anything up. I just posted how he voted on various bills.

I am sure that we still disagree on him, but being here in Pa with him and having had many face to face discussions with him, and having researched his votes, I saw early on the dangers of Ricky getting back in. He was heading in the same direction as Specter — whom he endorsed over Pat Toomey. Who is endorsing Specter now? Obama and Harry Reid.

That is my problem with party politics. Santorum placed party above everything that he claimed to be for, just to be a good party hack and get his turn at the WH.

I don’t tell you this to rile you up, just to have full disclosure. I have strongly held beliefs and I defend them without backing down if I cannot be proven to be incorrect.

Many will say that Ricky would still have been better than Casey and that is true, but how much for how long? Would he be tougher to remove after another 6 years of amassing power and money and favors and doing just enough to have people say that he is our friend? You betcha.

I am not happy with Casey, but I have no regrets about Santorum losing.

“REMEMBER NEW JERSEY ELECTION”

Corzine had every political trick up his sleeze and money and Obama even campaigned and he still LOST! NEVER GIVE UP HOPE and SEND IN LOTS OF CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE OPPONENT OF THE DEMOCRATS!

Thanks again for a thoughtful post.

I do understand the disappointment in President Bush, though, as I said, I don't think disagreement with me is the sole criteron for determining the quality of a President, and I haven't thought for a moment, based on your comments that you hated him. (Others clearly do - like the guy here who said he was worse than Bill Clinton - bizarre).

I think where we differ is the degree of agreement you demand of a politician (especially a President, whom, as Reagan stated clearly, needs to compromise).

As a part of the early and continuing Tea Party movement, I definitely don't put a great deal of "trust" in the GOP. Otherwise I wouldn't have made the trip to DC on 9-12. However, I do believe, as I have stated before, that the only vehicle to regain political power is the Republican party through the people - the Conservatives within the party - as we seek to get rid of Marxist Obama and the out-of-control nut cases in Congress.

I guess that I have seen some positive movement within the party that hasn't been there for years. They have stood united against the Stimulus bill, Cap n Tax, and are fighting this heinous "health care" bill. They need our encouragement.......firm and forceful.........from conservatives across the country.

I think we're on the same side here, Badray. I obviously am persona non grata with a number of your friends here, but it would be refreshing to find out that at least one of you agrees that we should work together to accomplish our shared goal of taking back the country with conservative principles.

You just might be the only one who really wants to win the battle.

I am no fan of GWB (and even less so of his father) but even I don’t hate them. I am extremely disappointed in GWB because i thought that he was more conservative than his father. The fault lies with me for placing my expectations too high.

Should a man love, respect, and love his wife if she is faithful 90% of the time? How about 50%?

The Constitution is fairly plain to read and understand until it is misconstrued by lawyers. The rules are straight forward and really doesn’t give much leeway. Either they honor their oath to honor and defend it — and live up to it — or I have no use for them, even when they get some things right some of the time.

I don’t see how spending future generations into oblivion is Christian like. It’s not even Christian light. I don’t see how dishonoring an oath is either. One of the president duties is to protect us again invasion and Bush promoted an invasion that will destroy this nation.

I have been a conservative for close to 50 years and I’m not yet 60. I have been active for much of that time. I have warned against the things that you have. I have fought the things that you have. Where we are now is in how to best achieve our goals.

You *seem* to put more trust in the GOP where I place more in we the people to selectively choose candidates to support who may or may not be Republicans, but are conservative. I will not (and have not) donated a dime to the GOP in ages though I have worked for candidates who are republican.

I don’t believe that the GOP as presently constituted is working in our interests,but in their own. Working as you are for good candidates within the GOP is fine as long as your support the right people and right principles and not just the party. Someone who is 70% our friend is generally not our friend at all when the chips are down if what we want is to shrink government, it’s cost, it’s power, and it’s scope.

My faith is with me always, but I separate how I live my life and what I want the government to have power over. If I see you sinning, it is my Christian duty to share my faith with you. It is not my right to demand that government interferes with your right to live your life as you see fit as long as you are violate no one’s rights in the process.

I believe that homosexual activity is a sin. With a consenting adult, it should not be a crime. The doesn’t mean that the act isn’t detrimental to those involved, but how do you enforce a law banning such activity without violating everyone’s right to be secure in their homes?

I hope that sufficiently explains my position and why I disagree with you about Bush.

Gee, what would happen if I turned out to be a peacemaker here?

Please check out post 322.

I was developing that while you developed your own response and posted it.

Since you expressed comments long the same lines, I thought you might like to read mine.

BTW, I liked yours. I thought it made some good points.