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    12/15/2015 4:32:45 PM PST · by grumpa · 43 replies
    Preterist Cosmos ^ | July, 2002 | David A. Green
    PRETERISM 101 By David A. Green July, 2002 Following this brief article are 101 biblical, preterist "time-indicators." (Hence the title.) There are many more than 101 to be found in Scripture, but these are probably the most blunt and obvious of them all. If we were to include every preterist time-indicator in Scripture, the number would possibly be in the hundreds. My purpose in displaying these passages (with some cross references) is to lay out in a concise, easy-to-read format the overwhelming testimony that our Lord actually fulfilled the Law and the Prophets, as He said He would. (Matt. 5:17)...
  • What Is a "Coming of God"?

    05/21/2015 6:19:52 PM PDT · by grumpa · 25 replies
    Prophecy Questions blog ^ | May 17, 2015 | Riley O'Brien Powell
    There is much confusion in Christianity today surrounding the milieu of biblical eschatology. Specifically, there is widespread misunderstanding about the nature and timing of Jesus’ coming, arrival or presence (parousia in Greek). In popular preaching and imagination, it’s often called his “second coming” or “return.” Many life-long Jesus-followers are surprised to learn that these are not terms found in the Bible – and then to consider how these terms affect our thinking on just what this all means. But the rabbit-hole goes even deeper: What if the confusion about Jesus’ coming reaches even farther back, to a more basic misunderstanding...
  • Revelation 1:7 - Past or Future?

    05/29/2014 3:27:32 PM PDT · by dartuser · 143 replies
    Spirit and Truth ^ | N/A | Tony Garland
    Those who are willing to acknowledge the global context of Revelation have much evidence to support such a view. Those who are determined to shoe-horn Revelation back into the events of A.D. 70 are unlikely to be swayed by our evidence. Thankfully, we need not be overly concerned about the persistence of preterism because the plain meaning of the Biblical text stands opposed to its foundational teachings. As long as Bible students take the text at face value--as it was intended to be understood--then preterism will continue to face an uphill battle. To this fact we owe thanks to the...
  • An Assessment of Kenneth L Gentry's Internal Evidence For Dating Revelation

    03/03/2014 2:37:59 PM PST · by dartuser · 26 replies
    Kenneth L Gentry, Jr., makes evidence derived from exegetical data of the Apocalypse his major focus in building a case for dating Revelation prior to the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70. Even though acknowledging that other advocates of either a Neronic and Domitianic date for Revelation's composition find no direct evidence within the book for assigning a date, he proceeds to find "inherently suggestive and positively compelling historical time-frame indicators in Revelation." He uses the contemporary reign of the sixth king in 17:9-11 and the integrity of the temple and Jerusalem in 11:1-13 to exemplify arguments that are "virtually...
  • The Date of the Book of Revelation

    03/03/2014 8:28:34 AM PST · by dartuser · 13 replies
    Pre-Trib Study Group ^ | n/a | Thomas Ice
    Preterists teach that the Book of Revelation is primarily a prophecy about the Roman war against the Jews in Israel that began in A.D. 67 and ended with the destruction of the Temple in A.D. 70. In order for Revelation to be a prediction of the future (Rev. 1:1, 3, 11, 19; 22:6-10, 16, 18-20) and if it was fulfilled by August A.D. 70, then it had to have been written by A.D. 65 or 66 for the preterist interpretation to even be a possibility. Preterist Ken Gentry has noted this major weakness when he said of fellow early date...
  • The Understanding of the Church Fathers Regarding the Olivet Discourse and the Fall of Jerusalem

    03/03/2014 8:08:43 AM PST · by dartuser · 29 replies
    Last year I presented a paper to this body regarding the Jewish historian Josephus’ understanding of the Olivet Discourse and the Fall of Jerusalem and particularly how Preterists had written about Josephus’ recording of the event. ... As I demonstrated last year, little if any of Josephus’ description satisfies the words of our Lord in His discourse. ... is there support for this type of understanding of the Fall of Jerusalem and the predictions of Christ within the writings of the Church that follows A.D. 70? Did the Church Fathers of the ensuing centuries look back on A.D. 70 as...
  • Prophecy Questions Futurists Cannot Really Answer

    01/20/2014 7:30:29 PM PST · by grumpa · 31 replies
    Prophecy Questions for Christians ^ | January 20, 2014 | Charles S. Meek
    There is astounding disagreement among Christians on Bible prophecy. About a dozen years ago I decided that I could no longer blindly listen to my pastoral staff on this subject, and I became determined to get to the bottom of this subject. There were too many questions I had that the church just could not answer adequately. I became a preterist. Preterism is the view that most if not all prophetic events happened with the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70. It appears to be the fastest growing view of eschatology as other systems are being discredited. I see a...
  • Another False Prophet Exposed

    12/20/2013 1:03:07 AM PST · by Stingray · 34 replies ^ | Monday, 13 February 2012 05:15 | Don Preston
    Several months ago someone sent me a copy of a book: 2008 God’s Final Witness, by Ronald Weinland. It was suggested to me that perhaps I should challenge Mr. Weinland to debate me. As I scanned the book, I decided that the best response overall was to allow time to respond to Mr. Weinland, and my thinking has been vindicated. You see, Mr. Weinland claims that, “When this book is published at the end of summer of 2006, there will be a maximum of two years remaining before the world will be plunged into the worst time in human history”...
  • Full Preterism Caucus

    Several months ago someone sent me a copy of a book: 2008 God’s Final Witness, by Ronald Weinland. It was suggested to me that perhaps I should challenge Mr. Weinland to debate me. As I scanned the book, I decided that the best response overall was to allow time to respond to Mr. Weinland, and my thinking has been vindicated. You see, Mr. Weinland claims that, “When this book is published at the end of summer of 2006, there will be a maximum of two years remaining before the world will be plunged into the worst time in human history”...
  • Christian Hope through Fulfilled Prophecy

    07/22/2013 3:56:47 PM PDT · by grumpa · 29 replies
    Prophecy Questions blog ^ | January 23, 2013 | Charles Meek
    Have you ever been concerned that what your church is teaching about Bible prophecy does not match up to what the Bible actually says? Biblical prophecy appears to be undergoing a radical revision among scholars. R. C. Sproul, for example, perhaps the most influential theologian in America, has said that his views on eschatology had changed to a version of “preterism.” Preterism is the view that most if not all prophecy was fulfilled in the 1st century. Hank Hanegraaff (the popular Bible Answer Man) has adopted a similar view. On the other hand, Dallas Theological Seminary, a highly influential center...
  • Why the Modern View of the Book of Revelation may be Flawed (Catholic Caucus)

    11/26/2012 3:38:13 PM PST · by NYer · 30 replies
    Archdiocese of Washington ^ | November 26, 2012 | Msgr. Charles Pope
    Currently in the Liturgies of daily Mass we have been reading the Book of Revelation. It is commonly read at the end of the liturgical year, for it bespeaks the end of, and passing qualities of all things of this world.It is also a book of glory, depicting the ultimate victory of our Lord Jesus Christ, after a great period of conflict between the doomed kingdom of this world, and the victorious Kingdom of Christ. In this context the Book of Revelation is not a mere tour guide to the last days, but is a book of glory reminding us...
  • Video: Introduction to Preterism

    01/13/2012 6:42:29 PM PST · by grumpa · 25 replies · 1+ views
    You Tube ^ | 2011 | Alan Bondar
    It is suggested that the viewer not change his mind about Bible prophecy based on this video. But as preterism is probably the fastest growing view of eschatology in the church, we are going to be hearing more and more about it. This video might encourage the viewer to do more study. It is by a young pastor in Florida:
  • The mystery of 666 Explained - Nero! {Ecumenical thread}

    12/22/2011 1:01:18 PM PST · by Cronos · 213 replies ^ | 2009 | Richard Anthony
    Apocalypse 13:16-18 is based on Ezekiel 8 and 9. The "mark" symbolized the spiritual condition of the inhabitants of Jerusalem. The ones with the "mark" were in allegiance with God. However, in Apocalypse, the mark is reversed. That is to say, the mark was on those who were against God and had allegiance to the "beast." John wrote that the number "is the number of a man's name; and his number is 666." This tells us that those who received the "mark" were actually in allegiance with a "man," an actually person of the first century. So, who was he?...
  • Why the Rapture is Not in Revelation

    03/22/2011 6:36:53 AM PDT · by topcat54 · 67 replies
    American Vision ^ | March 22, 2011 | Gary DeMar
    Like [Hal] Lindsey and many who preceded and followed him in pronouncing their generation as “terminal,” [Jeff] Lasseigne is constrained by his dispensational hermeneutic to offer a worldview that is really an “upper-world worldview”: Or as John MacArthur said, “Man’s efforts to bring about a better world . . . amount to little more than rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic to give everyone a better view as the ship sinks” (196).[3] The “rapture” has been a convenient escape hatch for Christians. When times worsened, the “rapture” was preached with great vitality. Millions were assured that before all hell...
  • The Time is Short

    02/19/2011 5:34:14 AM PST · by RJR_fan · 1 replies
    American Vision ^ | Feb. 18. 2011 | Joel McDurmon
    The Time The phrase “the present time” is an obvious eschatological/prophetic reference. To what particular “time” did Jesus refer? And what was so special about it? Note first, that Jesus specifically refers to this time—that is, His and His audience’s time—not some time of judgment in the future. Whatever He’s talking about, it refers to the people he was talking to. Second, this “time” is compared to a discernable event. Whatever they should have been aware of, it was as clear as storm clouds gathering in the west. When people see something like that, they react—take action—accordingly. Third, this “time”...
  • Is a “Cashless Society” a Sign of the End?

    07/20/2009 12:16:39 PM PDT · by topcat54 · 164 replies · 2,074+ views
    American Vision ^ | July 20, 2009 | Gary DeMar
    I’m beginning to see that prophetic speculation is taking place on the fringes of the Christian publishing industry. Of course, you will still find the occasional prophetic pot-boiler. Mark Hitchcock writes a couple of prophecy books a year. They are mostly exercises in “newspaper exegesis,” driven more by current events than the Bible. Consider these three, all to be published in 2009: The Late Great United States (Multnomah), 2012, the Bible, and the End of the World (Harvest House), and Cashless: Bible Prophecy, Economic Chaos, and the Future Financial Order (Harvest House). How do you go from The Late Great...
  • Prophecy Pundits are at it Again

    02/24/2009 10:10:12 AM PST · by topcat54 · 372 replies · 3,816+ views
    American Vision ^ | February 23, 2009 | Gary DeMar
    Calvary Chapel of Chino California held “ The Southern California Prophecy Conference” last week (Feb. 20–22, 2009). I wonder if those who came to hear speakers like Tim LaHaye, Mark Hitchcock, Paul McGuire, David Hocking, David Reagan, and Ed Hindson were aware that Chuck Smith, the founder of the Calvary Chapel network of churches, made some very definite predictions about when the “rapture” was going to take place. While cleaning up my office, I came across a cassette tape of a sermon Chuck Smith preached on December 31, 1979. He told his very accepting audience on that day that the...
  • Back to the Future - The Preterist Perspective

    10/23/2008 10:18:08 AM PDT · by topcat54 · 21 replies · 489+ views ^ | 2003 | Kenneth L. Gentry, Jr., Th.D.
    Evangelical (and reformed) preterists (e.g., R. C. Sproul) take seriously the time texts of Scripture and apply those prophecies to A.D. 70, a redemptive-historical event of enormous consequence. They argue that there God finally and conclusively broadened his redemptive focus from the Jews to all races (Matt. 28:19), from the land of Israel to all the world (Acts 1:8), and from the temple-based worship to a simpler spiritual-based worship (John 4:21-24). Where such time markers are absent from eschatological texts, though, evangelical preterists apply the prophecies to the Second Advent at the end of history. The judgments in A.D. 70...
  • Pre trib, mid trib, post trib?

    08/18/2008 7:48:05 PM PDT · by guitarplayer1953 · 203 replies · 709+ views
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    Where do you stand on this pre trib, mid trib or post trib and why.
  • Seven Major Prophetic Signs Of The Second Coming

    01/02/2008 10:38:35 AM PST · by squireofgothos · 17 replies · 161+ views
    Gracethrufaith ^ | 12-29-07 | Jack Kelley
    In 1948, when Israel took its place among the nations of the world again for the first time in nearly 2000 years, students of prophecy recognized the fulfillment of the primary sign that the end of the age was upon us. Ezekiel had predicted this would happen and in effect Jesus had said that the generation being born when it happened would still be alive when He returned (Matt. 24:34) because the things He gave as signs of His impending return require that Israel be a nation in its historical land with a functioning Temple. The fulfillment of this prophecy...
  • Why I Am Not A Preterist

    04/12/2007 8:31:50 AM PDT · by xzins · 198 replies · 1,613+ views
    WHY I AM NOT A PRETERISTThe word "preterist" is taken from the Latin word meaning "past." This view denies any future fulfillment of the book of Revelation and sees the events it describes as already having been fulfilled within the first century after Christ.There are several different forms of Preterism. Full Preterism views all of the prophecies of the Bible as having already been fulfilled in their entirety since the fall of Jerusalem in A.D. 70. Full Preterism is a very recent innovation that has no adherents in any of the writings of the early church.Partial Preterism maintains a future...
  • Timely Questions about Preterismand its Reconstruction Ally

    04/10/2007 10:07:35 AM PDT · by xzins · 184 replies · 1,490+ views
    from "The Standard Bearer" ^ | Prof. David Engelsma
    Questions about Preterism and it's Reconstruction Ally This article was originally from two timely editorials of The Standard Bearer Vol. 75; No. 10; February 15, 1999 (A Timely Question about Preterism), and Vol. 75; No. 16; May 15, 1999 (The Preterism of Christian Reconstruction). Part I: A Timely Question about "Preterism" by Prof. David Engelsma A reader has asked about "preterism." The question is occasioned by the series of editorials defending (Reformed) amillennialism (Standard Bearer, Jan. 15, 1995 - Dec. 15, 1996). The subject is worthy of editorial treatment. The question and my response follow. QuestionI have read your articles...
  • The Real End of the World

    10/12/2006 2:07:23 PM PDT · by topcat54 · 7 replies · 355+ views
    American Vision ^ | 12/30/2005 | Gary DeMar
    When Christians hear the phrase the “end of the world,” they assume it’s a reference to a great end-time prophetic event like Armageddon, the Second Coming of Christ, or the inauguration of the New Heavens and New Earth. Actually, the phrase “end of the world,” as in the end of the physical world, is not found in the Bible. There is Psalm 19:4, but in context “end of the world” is a geographical description: “Their line has gone out through all the earth, and their utterances to the end of the world.” The same is true of its use in...
  • What do you do with a future National Israel in the Bible?

    09/01/2006 5:32:18 AM PDT · by xzins · 739 replies · 4,321+ views
    What do you do with a future National Israel in the Bible?by Thomas Ice I suspect that most of you have been at a theological crossroad at least once in your Christian life. I have stood at several over the years. Let me tell you about one such instance, since it is one that many have faced down through church history. It involves the question of "What do you do with a future national Israel in the Bible?" The decision one makes about this question will largely determine your view of Bible prophecy, thus greatly impacting your view of the...
  • Preterism & the Date of the Apocalypse (Revelation)

    09/19/2005 9:13:46 AM PDT · by xzins · 726 replies · 7,000+ views
    PFRS ^ | 10/03 | Tim Warner
    PFRS Home > Doctrinal Studies > Preterism Preterism& the Date of the ApocalypseCopyright © Tim Warner - 010/2003 The date of the writing of Revelation has been hotly disputed by preterists. Until the last century, Christian tradition has placed John's exile to Patmos during the reign of the emperor Domitian (AD 81-96).The dispute over the date of the composition of Revelation is a crucial one. If it was composed by John after AD70 and the fall of Jerusalem preterism is at once refuted. Revelation is a prophetic book, predicting the coming of Christ in the future. A post-AD70 date...
  • Letting the Bible Speak for Itself—The Literal Meaning of “This Generation”

    07/19/2005 7:07:09 AM PDT · by topcat54 · 301 replies · 3,061+ views
    American Vision ^ | June 17, 2005 | Gary DeMar
    From Gary DeMar's multi-part response to Ed Hindson's article in the May 2005 issue of the National Liberty Journal on the topic of "The New Last Days Scoffers". When Jesus answered His disciples' questions about "when these things" related to the temple's destruction would be and what signs would indicate His coming, He said, "this generation will not pass away until all these things take place" (Matt. 24:34; Mark 13:30; Luke 21:32). "This generation," therefore, is the timing key. If we can know what the Bible means by "this generation," we can determine the timing of the events Jesus describes....
  • LaHaye's Tribulation

    02/02/2005 6:26:01 AM PST · by Ryan Bailey · 20 replies · 379+ views
    Christianity Today ^ | 20 January AD 2005 | Jim Jones
    LaHaye's Tribulation Left Behind coauthor challenges Tyndale over Last Disciple. By Jim Jones | posted 01/20/2005 09:00 a.m. Tim LaHaye, coauthor (with Jerry Jenkins) of the Left Behind series, is publicly airing his displeasure with his publisher. Tyndale House is selling The Last Disciple, a novel with a distinctly different take on the Book of Revelation than that of the Left Behind series. LaHaye says he feels betrayed and told The Dallas Morning News, "They are going to take the money we made for them and promote this nonsense." The Last Disciple was coauthored by Hank Hanegraaff and Sigmund Brouwer,...
  • Apocalypse Then?

    09/23/2004 10:50:19 AM PDT · by Alex Murphy · 23 replies · 488+ views ^ | Kenneth L. Gentry, Jr., Th.D.
    [FReepers, please note that this article was written sometime prior to 2000, most likely around 1998 - AM] A growing number of evangelicals, disturbed by cries of the end, are reviving an old view of Revelation that avoids date-setting According to a recent Associated Press news report, when the year 2000 arrives computers throughout the world may be thrown into confusion. Many big computers at such computer-dependent institutions as insurance companies and banks track the year by using only the last two digits, rather than all four. Consequently, these computers will read the last two digits of 2000 as if...