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  • A Sponsorship Scandal at The (Washington) Post (Dinosaur Media DeathWatch™)

    07/11/2009 1:56:30 PM PDT · by abb · 29 replies · 978+ views
    The Washington Post ^ | July 12, 2009 | Marcus Alexander
    The Washington Post's ill-fated plan to sell sponsorships of off-the-record "salons" was an ethical lapse of monumental proportions. Publisher Katharine Weymouth and Executive Editor Marcus Brauchli have now taken full responsibility for what was envisioned as a series of 11 intimate dinners to discuss public policy issues. For a fee of up to $25,000, underwriters were guaranteed a seat at the table with lawmakers, administration officials, think tank experts, business leaders and the heads of associations. Promotional materials said Weymouth, Brauchli and at least one Post reporter would serve as "Hosts and Discussion Leaders" for an evening of spirited but...
  • Washington Post sells access, $25,000+

    07/02/2009 5:46:51 AM PDT · by Sub-Driver · 47 replies · 1,888+ views
    WashPost sells access, $25,000+ By: Mike Allen July 2, 2009 08:04 AM EST For $25,000 to $250,000, The Washington Post is offering lobbyists and association executives off the record, non-confrontational access to "those powerful few" — Obama administration officials, members of Congress, and the paper’s own reporters and editors. The astonishing offer is detailed in a flier circulated Wednesday to a health-care lobbyist, who provided it to a reporter because the lobbyist said he feels it’s a conflict for the paper to charge for access to, as the flier says, its “health care reporting and editorial staff." The offer—which essentially...
  • Press + Institutions = Presstitution

    07/02/2009 9:50:19 AM PDT · by Tribune7 · 10 replies · 483+ views
    The Washington Post is marketing to institutional executives and lobbyists dinners with congressmen, Obama officials and its own reporters, according to Politico.com. The "salons" will be held at the home of CEO and Publisher Katharine Weymouth. Price for access ranges from $25,000 to $250,000, according to the flier. So much for the role of watchdog. At least now, there is no excuse for doubting everything you read. The new service was made known to the general public by a health-care lobbyist offended by the policy. The flier baldly said the dinners would provide access to the paper's “health care reporting...
  • Is Obama laundering federal money to GE through Michigan?

    07/01/2009 11:35:30 AM PDT · by Nachum · 23 replies · 1,119+ views
    Canada Free Press ^ | 7/1/09 | Steve Milloy
    General Electric is getting yet more taxpayer money, possibly laundered federal money, to subsidize its business. A GE press release announced that the state of Michigan will provide GE with $60 million to build a $100 million “technology & software center” — what used to be known as an “office building.”
  • WH Reporters Stand For Obama, But Not For Bush?

    05/03/2009 2:42:18 PM PDT · by Evil Slayer · 24 replies · 1,874+ views
    I checked for this in search but didn't find anything.
  • Business reporters confess news sins while U.S. economy collapsed

    04/27/2009 7:43:06 PM PDT · by Lorianne · 86 replies · 1,685+ views
    The Colorado Independent ^ | 27 April 2009 | John Tomasic
    In a windowless room at the Westin Hotel in downtown Denver, leading business journalists and editors explained how the media “blew it” in covering the economic meltdown. They admitted, on one hand, to falling under the sway of free-market ideology and celebrating risk-taking financial leaders and, on the other, to missing the complex story of the rupturing system by only reporting it in parts and to almost no effect for the past decade. Although not planned as confession, the discussion, which kicked off the annual conference of the Society of American Business Editors and Writers (SABEW), quickly descended into an...
  • MINE-Things The Communist News Networks Don't Want You To Know

    03/31/2009 9:24:43 PM PDT · by FromLori · 5 replies · 735+ views
    E Mail | 3/31/09
    Subj: Sexual Assault, Attempted Murder--CT Newspaper Blackout
  • INFREAKINGCREDIBLE !

    03/30/2009 8:54:41 PM PDT · by RobinMasters · 90 replies · 4,378+ views
    American Spectator ^ | MARCH 30, 2009 | Robert Stacy McCain
    The journalistic legacy of Walter Duranty, Herbert Matthews and Jayson Blair is alive and well at the New York Times: A lawyer involved with legal action against Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) told a House Judiciary subcommittee on March 19 The New York Times had killed a story in October that would have shown a close link between ACORN, Project Vote and the Obama campaign because it would have been a "a game changer."
  • Senate Bill Would Allow Tax-Exempt Status for Newspapers

    03/24/2009 12:47:27 PM PDT · by Red Steel · 142 replies · 6,309+ views
    Editor and Publisher ^ | March 24, 2009 1:08 PM ET | Mark Fitzgerald
    CHICAGO Newspapers perform a public service for democracy and should be allowed to operate as tax-exempt non-profits, U.S. Sen. Benjamin Cardin, D.-Md., proposed Tuesday. Cardin introduced a bill that would explicitly include newspapers among organizations eligible for 501(c)(3) status. The non-profit status is the same that public radio and television have now. The legislation would give a national green light for newspapers to adopt the so-called Low Profit Limited Liability Company business model, often shortened to L3C. The L3C model, which the Newspaper Guild supports as an alternative newspaper ownership model, is the subject of a feature story in the...
  • Matthews Renews Contract at MSNBC (GE took bailout - why no 90% tax?)

    03/23/2009 6:19:22 AM PDT · by abb · 21 replies · 1,102+ views
    The New York Times ^ | March 22, 2009 | Bill Carter
    Chris Matthews, the usually garrulous host of “Hardball” on MSNBC, has quietly signed a new long-term contract to remain with the cable network through the next election, signaling that he had quit entertaining any plans to run for a Senate seat. The deal is for at least four years. Financial terms were not disclosed, and neither side would confirm whether MSNBC had won a reduction in salary for the host, as it had been reported to be seeking. Previous reports put his annual salary at about $5 million. One executive involved in the negotiations said, “Whether he took a slight...
  • Some In Press Corps Laugh At White House’s Anti-Cheney, Limbaugh Jibe

    03/16/2009 2:29:14 PM PDT · by governsleastgovernsbest · 62 replies · 3,285+ views
    FinkelBlog ^ | Mark Finkelstein
    I recently heard a talking ahead proclaim that the Obama administration had decided its anti-Rush offensive had run its course and that it would abandoning the campaign. Guess not. At today’s press briefing, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs took yet another swipe at Rush, and former VP Dick Cheney. What made it more notable was that at least some in the White House press corps could be heard laughing out loud at this latest attempt at humor. It was a question from CNN’s Ed Henry, asking Gibbs to respond to the criticism Cheney had leveled at the Obama administration...
  • Maddow: You Take Mr. Barack’s Dime, You Support Mr. Barack’s Policies

    03/12/2009 7:28:46 PM PDT · by governsleastgovernsbest · 54 replies · 1,565+ views
    FinkelBlog ^ | Mark Finkelstein
    Barack Obama bought and paid for these banks. They better get in line behind his plan to abolish the secret ballot in unionization elections. That’s Rachel Maddow’s position. The MSNBC host is furious that banks taking bail-out funds have the audacity to do what they think is in the best interest of their businesses, instead of supporting the president’s scheme to do away with what most Americans consider a sacred element of democracy: the secret ballot. Apparently Citi and Bank of America have hosted conference calls in which opposition was expressed to the Obama-backed, Orwellian-named, Employee Free Choice Act, which...
  • Idea of non-profit newspapers floated

    03/01/2009 7:24:10 PM PST · by Loyalist · 42 replies · 900+ views
    Halifax Chronicle-Herald ^ | March 1, 2009 | John Christofferson/Associated Press
    NEW HAVEN, Conn. — As sharp revenue reductions put the future of many U.S. newspapers in doubt, one idea gaining attention is the conversion of newspapers into tax-exempt non-profits supported by large endowments. Although viewed by many as a long shot at best, such a radical change could be a saviour for the industry and its vital role in a democracy. That's why the endowment model is drawing renewed attention as newspapers impose massive layoffs, scale back home delivery and make other drastic cuts to counter plunging advertising revenue amid a recession that has compounded struggles from the migration of...
  • Reporters Flock To Government Jobs

    02/18/2009 3:58:48 PM PST · by VinL · 16 replies · 613+ views
    CBS News ^ | 2-18-09 | M. Calerone
    In three months since Election Day, at least a half-dozen prominent journalists have taken jobs working for the federal government. Journalists, including some of those who’ve jumped ship, say it’s better to have a solid job in government than a shaky job - or none at all - in an industry that’s fading fast. But conservative critics answer with a question: Would journalists be making the same career choices if John McCain had beaten Barack Obama in November? "Obama bails out more media water-carriers," conservative blogger Michelle Malkin wrote upon hearing that the Chicago Tribune’s Jill Zuckman is taking a...
  • 'A little state control wouldn't hurt anybody'

    02/14/2009 6:49:11 PM PST · by Delacon · 18 replies · 1,141+ views
    WorldNetDaily ^ | February 14, 2009 | Aaron Klein
    Top Democrat spills beans on revival of 'Fairness Doctrine' "A little state control wouldn't hurt anybody," declared Jerry Brown, California's Democrat attorney general, in on air comments   esterday about the possible reinstatement of the so-called "Fairness Doctrine." "You have a point of view and I have a point of view and they are different. I think the clash can sometimes illuminate the two better than just a one sided presentation," stated Brown, during an exclusive interview with Michael Savage broadcast on the top talker's national radio show. Savage countered by positing any revival of the "Fairness Doctrine" is aimed at...
  • Obama's Press List: Membership Shall Have Its Privileges.

    02/10/2009 8:29:51 PM PST · by Steelfish · 20 replies · 1,282+ views
    Wall St. Journal ^ | February 11, 2009
    Obama's Press List Membership shall have its privileges. About half-way through President Obama's press conference Monday night, he had an unscripted question of his own. "All, Chuck Todd," the President said, referring to NBC's White House correspondent. "Where's Chuck?" He had the same strange question about Fox News's Major Garrett: "Where's Major?" The problem wasn't the lighting in the East Room. The President was running down a list of reporters preselected to ask questions. The White House had decided in advance who would be allowed to question the President and who was left out. Presidents are free to conduct press...
  • NANCY - BOX OF ROCKS OR MISUNDERSTOOD? (VIDEO CLIP)

    02/04/2009 10:08:43 AM PST · by andrew roman · 17 replies · 555+ views
    Roman Around ^ | 4 February 2009 | Andrew Roman
    There are apparently a hell of a lot of babies being made in this country.Last July 4th, President Bush marveled at how our country had grown from 13 colonies to a nation of 300 people. In seven months time, we have exploded to the point that a half-billion Americans a month are losing jobs – according to Nancy Pelosi. At this rate, by next July 4th, there will be two-and-a-half-trillion people out of work here in the United States.I’m no economics guru, but I would think that is something we as a country would want to avoid, no?It’s been out...
  • Free press, with profits (Drive-By Bailout - Dinosaur Media DeathWatch™)

    01/19/2009 7:27:16 AM PST · by abb · 44 replies · 657+ views
    Los Angeles Times ^ | January 19, 2009 | Geneva Overholser and Geoffrey Cowan
    Newspapers are for sale across the country. National Public Radio and television news shows are laying off staff. The Tribune Co. (which owns this and other newspapers) is in bankruptcy. It's clear that journalism is in crisis, and in the current recession, things are likely to get much worse. That's alarming. A robust press is vital to our democracy. And while bloggers and other new-media news operations have enriched the public dialogue in important ways, their work still depends on the painstaking -- and expensive -- reporting supplied by traditional journalists. Some conclude from the recent dire reports about the...
  • The Artificial Reality of the Matrix Media

    01/17/2009 11:56:44 PM PST · by neverdem · 22 replies · 833+ views
    American Thinker ^ | January 15, 2009 | Selwyn Duke
    A common defense of error today is to say, with due indignation, "I have a right to my opinion!"  Legally this is true, given that our First Amendment is extant.  But as G.K. Chesterton once said, "Having the right to do something is not at all the same as being right in doing it."  There is no moral right to an immoral opinion -- nor to one bred of emotionalism unconstrained by reason -- nor to a deceitful one. More than ever, Americans are realizing that this isn't a sentiment to which the mainstream media subscribes.  In fact, with how...
  • Newspapers Help Obama, Obama Helps The Newspapers (latest bailout)

    01/13/2009 8:08:58 PM PST · by Behind Liberal Lines · 10 replies · 500+ views
    National Review ^ | Tuesday, January 13, 2009
    "A source of mine called to say that Obama's reached out to some newspaper publishers about giving papers a tax break in the stimulus package." "Obama pays off his base: The media." Chip Saltsman's best moment in the RNC Chairman debate last Monday was describing our current policy shift, in which winners and losers are set by the market, to a world where winners and losers are set by President Obama, Speaker Pelosi, and Majority Leader Reid.
  • No Bailout for the Media

    01/12/2009 9:09:11 AM PST · by Victory111 · 4 replies · 325+ views
    Cross Action News ^ | 1-12-09 | Floyd and Mary Beth Brown
    Connecticut is considering a bailout for local papers. But government assistance always comes with a catch. In the case of government aid of newspapers, it will destroy the ability of those papers to function as watchdogs. As journalism professor Paul Janensch told Reuters, “You can’t expect a watchdog to bite the hand that feeds it.” That’s why the news out of Connecticut is very disturbing. Two small-town papers have been in danger of being shut down because of decreasing revenue and poor management decisions. Journal Register Corp. recently had to sell the two papers, The Bristol Press and The (New...
  • NBC BANS COULTER FOR LIFE; CUT FROM 'TODAY' SHOW OVER BOOK'S CLAIMS, NO MORE CABLE

    01/05/2009 2:15:42 PM PST · by kcvl · 440 replies · 24,351+ views
    <p>The nation's top selling conservative author has been banned from appear on NBC, insiders tell the DRUDGE REPORT, banned for life! MORE...</p>
  • FREEDOM OF THE PRESS BAILOUT

    01/02/2009 7:36:12 AM PST · by andrew roman · 2 replies · 235+ views
    Roman Around ^ | 2 January 2009 | Andrew Roman
    With each passing day, it seems that the number of industries in the United States not asking for a chunk of the bailout loaf dwindles. If somehow belly-button lint were a commodity, you can wager your last nickel that representatives of the American navel lobby would be banging at bailout’s door for a touch.With so many entities begging for their own wedge of government rescue, does it surprise anyone that the newspaper industry is the latest to come a-mooching? That papers are struggling all across the country isn't news to anyone - nor should it be. The Old Grey Lady...
  • Democrat Bailout of Dying Liberal Print Media?

    01/01/2009 7:28:06 AM PST · by Sudetenland · 10 replies · 411+ views
    houston conservative ^ | 1/01/2009 | Will Malven
    File this one under the "I should've seen this coming" category; Connecticut State Representative Frank Nicastro (D-Bristol/Forestville) is petitioning the Connecticut state government to bailout his local newspapers, the Bristol Press and the New Britain Herald. This is the first such effort and it is strictly a local effort by Representative Nicastro and some of his fellow state legislators, but I predict that it won't be the last. With all of the large Liberal newspapers now struggling to survive due to dire reductions in revenue and readership, watch for a push from Democrats in Congress to follow suit.
  • Government aid could save U.S. newspapers, spark debate

    01/01/2009 7:36:57 AM PST · by RangerM · 14 replies · 654+ views
    Reuters ^ | 12/31/08 | Robert MacMillan
    Connecticut lawmaker Frank Nicastro sees saving the local newspaper as his duty. But others think he and his colleagues are setting a worrisome precedent for government involvement in the U.S. press. Nicastro represents Connecticut's 79th assembly district, which includes Bristol, a city of about 61,000 people outside Hartford, the state capital. Its paper, The Bristol Press, may fold within days, along with The Herald in nearby New Britain. That is because publisher Journal Register, in danger of being crushed under hundreds of millions of dollars of debt, says it cannot afford to keep them open anymore. Nicastro and fellow legislators...
  • Giving New Meaning to "Offical Government Newspaper"

    01/01/2009 7:49:40 AM PST · by moneyrunner · 7 replies · 399+ views
    The Virginian ^ | 1/1/2009 | Moneyrunner
    mere month ago this idea was a joke. The joke could be on us. Government aid could save U.S. newspapers, spark debate NEW YORK (Reuters) - Connecticut lawmaker Frank Nicastro sees saving the local newspaper as his duty. But others think he and his colleagues are setting a worrisome precedent for government involvement in the U.S. press. Nicastro represents Connecticut's 79th assembly district, which includes Bristol, a city of about 61,000 people outside Hartford, the state capital. Its paper, The Bristol Press, may fold within days, along with The Herald in nearby New Britain. That is because publisher Journal Register,...
  • A Case Study Showing Mainstream Media Is Worse Than You Think

    12/29/2008 10:30:44 AM PST · by jazusamo · 33 replies · 2,000+ views
    The Bulletin ^ | December 29, 2008 | Herb Denenberg
    The mainstream media has actually accelerated its slobbering over its Messiah, “The One,” Barack Obama. I thought it couldn’t get worse (I always think that and I’m always surprised when it always gets worse), but take a look at Newsweek, the weekly newsmagazine for Jan. 5, 2009. As you know, Newsweek is beginning to look like Oprah’s magazine. She runs a picture of Oprah on every cover. It seems Newsweek is running a picture of Mr. Obama on every cover. Can it get worse than that? On the Jan. 5 issue titled “The Global Elite” the cover has a picture...
  • Media Deathwatch: Arrogant Reporter Vanquished By Bloggers Bleats into Obscurity

    12/28/2008 2:43:33 PM PST · by Bill Dupray · 18 replies · 1,036+ views
    The Patriot Room ^ | December 28, 2008 | Bill Dupray
    The MSM newspapers are going into the crapper and it is all the fault of idiot bloggers (you know, those guys who sit around in their pajamas writing all day). The problem is that printing a hard copy of a publication packed with solid, interesting reporting isn't a guarantee of economic success in the age of instant news. Blogger Glenn Reynolds of "Instapundit" fame seems to be pleased at this. In his book, "An Army of Davids," Mr. Reynolds heralds an era in which "[m]illions of Americans who were in awe of the punditocracy now realize that anyone can do...
  • The Real Story Behind the Rushed Blagojevich Bust . . . .

    12/14/2008 5:53:36 PM PST · by jimbo123 · 147 replies · 12,247+ views
    Wall Street Journal ^ | 12/14/08 | Cam Simpson
    Conventional wisdom holds that U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald ordered the FBI to arrest Rod Blagojevich before sunrise Tuesday in order to stop a crime from being committed. That would have been the sale of the Senate seat vacated by President-elect Barack Obama. But the opposite is true: Members of Fitzgerald’s team are livid the scheme didn’t advance, at least for a little longer, according to some people close to Fitzgerald’s office. Why? Because had the plot unfolded, they might have had an opportunity most feds can only dream of: A chance to catch the sale of a Senate seat on...
  • Gregory and 'MTP' Guests Defend Blago: It's 'How the World Works'

    The media defense of disgraced Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich and corruption in politics continued Sunday morning as new "Meet the Press" host David Gregory, along with his guests, actually defended Blago's actions as "pay to play" business as usual that's just "part of the system" and "how the world works." Such seems an astounding about face from the press's disgust and incessant focus on the so-called "Republican culture of corruption" that surrounded the reporting of former Republican Majority Leader Tom DeLay's travails in 2006, as well as the attention given to Jack Abramoff the same year in order to assist...
  • 'The New York Times Isn't Going Anywhere'

    12/09/2008 7:39:58 AM PST · by governsleastgovernsbest · 45 replies · 1,023+ views
    NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein
    Promise, or threat? John Harwood declares "the New York Times isn't going anywhere." The Times correspondent, who also toils for CNBC, made his unconditional avowal on today's Morning Joe in response to Joe Scarborough's imagining of a future in which major news organizations, including the Times, might disappear. Scarborough was concerned that the public would be deprived of the media's investigative function. JOE SCARBOROUGH: The problem is, though, that these people are all being fired. So what are we going to do without a New York Times or a Washington Post or an NBC News? The investigators that hold government...
  • Federal bail-out of mainstream news media?

    12/09/2008 9:11:09 AM PST · by lakeprincess · 27 replies · 628+ views
    The Washington TImes ^ | 12/09/08 | Jennifer Harper
    The MSM is also going broke, with 15,000 layoffs and buyouts in 2008 in newspapers alone. Some propose a federal bailout for struggling media, a notion met with some fierce opposition by those who say it would compromise credibility and possibly First Amendment rights.
  • Debt-Saddled Tribune Co. Files for Bankruptcy Protection ( Washington Post bit late )

    12/09/2008 1:00:19 PM PST · by Ernest_at_the_Beach · 11 replies · 374+ views
    Washington Post ^ | Tuesday, December 9, 2008; Page D01 | Frank Ahrens
    Tribune Co. chief executive Sam Zell calls situation "a perfect storm." (By Damian Dovarganes -- Associated Press) The move will allow Tribune to stay in business while it seeks better terms from its creditors. The company stressed that all of its businesses, which include eight major daily newspapers and 23 television stations, will continue their day-to-day operations while Tribune restructures its debt. According to Tribune's bankruptcy filing in a Delaware court yesterday, the company has $12.9 billion in debt and $7.6 billion in assets. Tribune's largest creditor is J.P. Morgan Chase, which is owed $8.6 billion. Merrill Lynch is second,...
  • Journalists Out of Work? Resurrect Leftwing Federal Writers Project

    12/08/2008 4:40:00 AM PST · by PJ-Comix · 29 replies · 681+ views
    NewsBusters ^ | December 8, 2008 | P.J. Gladnick
    Mark Pinsky, writing for the New Republic, has an idea of what to do with all the journalists currently being laid off by the dying newspapers around the country: put them on the public payroll by hiring them for a resurrected Federal Writers Project. This was the New Deal project which provided funding for works which were primarily of a leftwing nature. And any current version of this government program is likely to have the same political ideology as its predecessor. Pinksy explains his dream of subsidizing unemployed journalists (emphasis mine): Barack Obama sounds like he wants to reach back...
  • Michelle Malkin: The newspaper bailout countdown clock: It’s here!

    12/01/2008 8:15:35 AM PST · by Oyarsa · 4 replies · 698+ views
    MichelleMalkin.com ^ | 12/01/08 | Michelle Malkin
    Back in October, I joked that it wouldn’t be long before the junk-bond New York Times was lining up for a government bailout. Last month, I followed up with the launch of the Newspaper Bailout Countdown Clock in a post about Tribune Media’s financial woes. Well, it has come to pass: Democrats have proposed a newspaper bailout in Connecticut: Seven legislators from the area served by The Bristol Press and The Herald in New Britain today wrote to the state Department of Economic and Community Development to ask for its help in preventing the closure of the newspapers. We’ll have...
  • Battered U.S. media prays for its bailout (Dinosaur Media DeathWatch™)

    11/29/2008 4:35:52 AM PST · by abb · 38 replies · 996+ views
    Toronto Globe & Mail ^ | November 28, 2008 | Richard Siklos
    Has there ever been a less fun time to be a media mogul? This was supposed to be a banner year for the U.S. media industry, with the happy confluence of a presidential election campaign and the Olympics. Instead, 2008 has been pretty much a writeoff. Some parts of the industry - particularly local U.S. media - have seen their sales fall off a cliff and their long-term viability as business models called into question as a consequence of the shakeout in the financial services companies and car makers, two of the largest advertising categories. "It looks like 2008 will...
  • The Media's "Obama Remorse"

    11/28/2008 11:58:37 AM PST · by lewisglad · 118 replies · 3,921+ views
    CBS News ^ | NEW YORK, Nov. 28, 2008 | Jon Friedman
    I'm starting to feel a little guilty about the media's treatment of President-elect Barack Obama -- and I may not be the only one. Chalk it up to a phenomenon I'd like to call "Obama-remorse." You know how you feel buyer's remorse after you've spent a lot of dough on some big-ticket item, only to realize that you might have made a mistake? Well, it's going to happen to the president-elect as well. Perhaps this sort of recognition prompted Washington Post media writer Howard Kurtz to do an incisive piece called "A Giddy Sense of Boosterism" on Nov. 17. As...
  • CT Legislators Want State To Subsidize Newspapers

    11/25/2008 6:20:30 PM PST · by governsleastgovernsbest · 50 replies · 798+ views
    NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein
    Governor: John? It's the Governor here. Say, you guys there at the Bristol Press are doing a great job. Top notch. But there is that one reporter of yours making a big stink over our proposal to increase the state income tax. He really doesn't get what we're trying to do to help our state move forward. And you know, that bill to renew your paper's subsidy is coming up next week. I'd hate to see it get bogged down in the fuss over this. Know what I mean? Editor: Um, yes, I know, sir. The conversation is imaginary but...