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  • John McCain's Trifecta on the Road to Victory

    08/31/2008 5:21:20 AM PDT · by Kaslin · 7 replies · 191+ views
    Townhall.com ^ | August 31, 2008 | Nina May
    John McCain has just experienced a political Trifecta garnering the coveted conservative base that is absolutely necessary for any Republican to win an election. It is the very oxygen of the party i n much the same way liberals are the core of the Democratic Party. The first win for Senator McCain that shook his slumbering base was the Saddleback Forum where his direct answers that revealed conviction and resolve stood in sharp contrast to Barack’s fumbled, arrogant, non-answer responses. So distraught was the left that=2 0they had to create an immediate spin that McCain had the answers before hand....
  • Saddleback Civil Forum Encore presentation: Sat Aug 30 8pm ET

    08/29/2008 6:31:50 PM PDT · by Presbyterian Reporter · 1 replies · 89+ views
    FOX NEWS ^ | August 29, 2008 | Staff
    For your friends who missed the first showing---Fox is showing it again. Saddleback Civil Forum Encore presentation: Sat., August 30 at 8 p.m. ET FOX NEWS Pastor Rick Warren sets up the Civil Forum with Senators Barack Obama and John McCain
  • ANTI-OBAMA STAND RILES GAYS

    08/27/2008 12:47:57 AM PDT · by nickcarraway · 7 replies · 209+ views
    New York Post ^ | August 26, 2008
    GAY media czar Paul Colichman's vow in yesterday's Page Six not to support Barack Obama over the candidate's opposition to same-sex marriage has other gay media bigs aflame. "By tearing up his check for Obama, he basically wrote one to McCain," Genre editor Neal Boulton told us. "I openly - no, flamingly - endorse Obama, whether he says he's for gay marriage or not. . . . I know under Obama, it will only be a matter of time until the country sees the legalization of gay marriage." James Hipps, project manager for gay-marketing firm Vibe Media, wants gays to...
  • OBAMA LOSES GAY-MEDIA KING

    08/27/2008 12:44:48 AM PDT · by nickcarraway · 12 replies · 164+ views
    New York Post ^ | August 25, 2008
    PAUL Colichman, the William Randolph Hearst of the gay media, is not supporting Barack Obama for president. But that doesn't mean he's backing John McCain. "I'm a die-hard Democrat," he tells Page Six. But Colichman was also a die-hard Hillary Clinton supporter. He and Harry Thomason produced a documentary, "The Hunting of the President: The 10-Year Campaign to Destroy Bill and Hillary Clinton." Colichman, 46, who owns The Advocate and Out magazines, GayWired.com, and Here, the premium cable network for gays, said he finally dealt with his disappointment over Clinton's defeat last week and came around to Obama. "I thought,...
  • Poll: Majority of Americans Disagree With Barack Obama on When Life Begins

    08/26/2008 4:25:18 PM PDT · by wagglebee · 29 replies · 216+ views
    Life News ^ | 8/26/08 | Steven Ertelt
    Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- Barack Obama confessed over a week ago that he wasn't sure when life begins and worried the question may be a little "above my pay grade." However, a majority of Americans know when human life begins and they agree with John McCain, who said the starting point is conception.Zogby International conducted the poll for WorldNetDaily and it questioned 1,099 likely voters from August 22 to 24.The survey found 59 percent believe human life begins at conception, another 16.8 percent say it happens when an unborn child can survive outside her mother's womb with medical assistance,...
  • When Does Human Life Begin? Obama's Pro-Abortion Answer Hill Downfall

    08/25/2008 3:58:16 PM PDT · by wagglebee · 20 replies · 258+ views
    Life News ^ | 8/25/08 | Carl Anderson
    LifeNews.com Note: Carl Anderson is the Supreme Knight of the 1.75 million-member Knights of Columbus, the largest lay Catholic organization in the world. On a national and local level the Knights of Columbus is one of the most active groups supporting the pro-life cause. In November, as we look back on the results of the 2008 presidential contest, I suspect that we'll conclude that Aug. 16 was the day that Barack Obama lost the race. At the Saddleback Civic Forum on the Presidency, evangelicals had their chance to meet Mr. Obama and to compare his brand of Christianity to...
  • Obama’s Unconstitutional Assault on ‘The Rich’

    08/25/2008 9:08:35 AM PDT · by Dukes Travels · 4 replies · 133+ views
    North Star Writers Group ^ | August 25, 2008 | David Karki
    At the recent Saddleback Civil Forum – their only joint appearance other than the presidential debates – Barack Obama and John McCain were asked a variety of questions by moderator Pastor Rick Warren. Some were serious and some stupid. Among the sillier questions was what their respective definitions of “rich” were. Neither answered it properly, by saying that it was irrelevant to the presidency how “rich” anyone is, that the premise itself was inherently preposterous as it treated the word as a pejorative when it isn't, and that government has no earthly business assuming the unfounded authority to dictate how...
  • In Church, McCain Unwittingly Becomes Part of Sermon

    08/25/2008 8:55:08 AM PDT · by rface · 14 replies · 195+ views
    CBS ^ | 8.25.08 | John Bentley
    Seeing yourself talk about the break-up of your marriage on the big screen is probably not what John McCain expected when he went to church this morning. But that’s exactly what happened at the North Phoenix Baptist Church today, when Pastor Dan Yeary played a clip from Rick Warren’s interview with McCain last weekend where he asked him what his “greatest moral failing” was. "The failure of my first marriage," McCain told Warren. “It's my greatest moral failure." McCain and his wife Cindy both looked visibly uncomfortable during the presentation, which was played on big screens in the sanctuary where...
  • The Audacity of Hypcrisy

    08/25/2008 6:31:33 AM PDT · by Kaslin · 24 replies · 96+ views
    Townhall.com ^ | August 25, 2008 | Bobby Schindler
    When Pastor Rick Warren asked Barack Obama about what he considered America’s greatest moral failure at the recent Saddleback “Civil Forum on the Presidency,” Senator Obama answered by saying, “its insufficient help to the disadvantaged.” Senator Obama then referenced the Bible and quoted Jesus’ admonition that, “Whatever you do for the least of my brothers, you do for me,” commenting that this should apply to victims of poverty, sexism and racism. I couldn’t believe my ears. I immediately thought of my sister Terri Schiavo who was the perfect example of a “disadvantaged” person in desperate need of our help. If...
  • McCain Goes There (Takes On Obama’s ‘Above My Pay Grade’ Remark)

    08/23/2008 7:04:54 PM PDT · by 2ndDivisionVet · 31 replies · 208+ views
    Commentary ^ | August 23, 2008 | Jennifer Rubin
    John McCain largely has avoided hot button social issues to the consternation of some in the conservative base. He has ignored the brewing controversy over Barack Obama’s Born Alive Infants legislative voting record and he hasn’t made much comment on the highly successful (for him) Rick Warren forum. That all seemed to end with Saturday’s radio address. First, he went straight at Obama’s “above my pay grade” response to Warren’s question about when life begins/”babies get rights.” He zeroed in on this particular answer, but he also broadened it to make a larger point about Obama’s candor and character. McCain...
  • The Battle Has Begun

    08/23/2008 6:39:48 AM PDT · by Kaslin · 10 replies · 127+ views
    Townhall.com ^ | August 22, 2008 | Mike Gallagher
    The words came dripping out of Bill Maher's mouth on CNN's Larry King Live. He was mocking the question that Saddleback Pastor Rick Warren asked Barack Obama and John McCain about the presence of evil in a terrorist-filled world. In fact, after Maher said the word evil, he sort of snickered, as if this pseudo-intellectual jerk who was canned from ABC for praising the 9/11 terrorists and condemning our military couldn't even believe he was wasting his time on such a nonsensical concept as the struggle between good and evil. And so it goes during another night of prime time...
  • Abortion numbers have gone down (Obama lied)

    08/23/2008 5:10:55 AM PDT · by Kleebo151 · 1 replies · 83+ views
    Politifact.com ^ | August 23, 2008 | Politifact.com
    In his Aug. 16, 2008, appearance with megachurch pastor Rick Warren, Sen. Barack Obama asserted that "abortions have not gone down'' in the United States during the presidency of George W. Bush, a strong abortion opponent... ...But Obama's statement is directly contradicted by statistics that show legal abortions have fallen since the start of the 21st century.
  • Backtrack to Saddleback -- Secularists Not Pleased

    08/23/2008 3:15:06 AM PDT · by rhema · 20 replies · 181+ views
    AlbertMohler.com ^ | August 19, 2008 | R. Albert Mohler Jr.
    Suffice it to say that I was not very hopeful about the Saddleback Civil Forum on the Presidency held at the California megachurch last Saturday night. In the first place, I am not really comfortable with the idea of hosting such a politically charged event in a church. No matter how the event is planned and projected, once the event starts it can turn into something far more politically volatile than planned. That is a truth I have learned by hard experience. Secondly, the advance publicity about the event touted it as a platform for a kind of "third way"...
  • Saddleback Church’s Presidential Civil Forum: A Harsh Spotlight

    08/22/2008 7:54:21 AM PDT · by Publius804 · 6 replies · 95+ views
    Catholic Exchange ^ | August 21st, 2008 | David J. Hartline
    Saddleback Church’s Presidential Civil Forum: A Harsh Spotlight August 21st, 2008 by David J. Hartline The Civil Forum sponsored by the Saddleback Church and its founder and pastor Rick Warren was the first chance for voters to see presidential candidates Senator John McCain and Senator Barack Obama answer questions about faith. What the voters actually saw was a polished Senator Obama using illustrative words and nice platitudes but saying very little. Senator McCain, though less polished, showed his serious engagement with the demands of the Gospel. Pastor Rich Warren, an admirable man, showed us both the failings of this format...
  • 2mn HILARIOUS VIDEO of Obama at Saddleback / "Do you speak Obama ?" MUST SEE

    08/21/2008 8:41:30 PM PDT · by drzz · 28 replies · 461+ views
    VIDEO ^ | 08 22 2008 | drzz
    Enjoy and share it ! What about an Operation Chaos II for the Dems Convention ?
  • McCain's grand slam to Obama's home run

    08/22/2008 4:28:12 AM PDT · by NCDragon · 19 replies · 89+ views
    SeattlePI.com ^ | August 21, 2008 | MARGARET CARLSON
    There was a time in our nation's history when having a political event in a church would have been horrifying. It's just what the Founding Fathers founded this country to get away from. But if that wall is going to come tumbling down, best that it tumble at Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, Calif., which seems to be much as gymnasium, volleyball court and cafe as place of worship. Unlike the first generation of evangelicals to move into the town square, Rick Warren, the church's pastor, isn't devoted to demonizing gays, women who work, men who don't, and environmentalists. He's...
  • What job is "Above Your Pay Grade"?

    08/22/2008 4:09:52 AM PDT · by SilvieWaldorfMD · 24 replies · 47+ views
    With all this talk about Barack Obama stating that making a decision on abortion is "above my pay grade" (yes, Sir, and being President is "above your pay grade", too!), it got me curious as to what do you consider being "above your pay grade" as far as job or duties are concerned?
  • What did Rick Warren have in mind when he asked does evil exist and what do we do about it?

    08/21/2008 8:44:56 PM PDT · by EveningStar · 17 replies · 174+ views
    Althouse | August 21, 2008 | Ann Althouse and Robert Wright
    Two bloggers attack McCain's answer to Rick Warren's "evil" question by misinterpreting it. Watch and listen here. Read the comments too. If you're using Firefox and can't hear it, try IE.
  • David Gergen - Obama: In Need of a Game Changer

    08/21/2008 11:57:40 AM PDT · by 2ndDivisionVet · 74 replies · 245+ views
    CNN ^ | August 20, 2008 | David Gergen
    Say what you will about Republicans making a muddle of governing, but they sure know how to campaign. The turn of events that John McCain and his team have engineered in recent weeks is one of the most significant events of the campaign and now poses a serious threat of an upset this fall. In just a few short weeks, they have not only thrown Barack Obama on the defensive and made him seem smaller but they have also made McCain seem larger and more commanding. And it has not just been one event but a string of them that...
  • Barack and John Go To Church

    08/21/2008 6:08:45 AM PDT · by Kaslin · 3 replies · 92+ views
    Townhall.com ^ | August 20, 2008 | Richard Olivastro
    Individually, Barack Obama and John McCain sat down last Saturday night with author Rick Warren in what was called a “Civil Forum on Leadership and Compassion” at Pastor Warren’s 22,000 seat church in Lake Forest, California. During the days preceding the event Warren said he would “be addressing pressing issues that are bridging divides in our nation, such as poverty, HIV/AIDS, climate, and human rights." That list was a concern to many in the McCain campaign, as it appeared made to order for the very liberal first term senator en-route to Denver and the democrat party presidential nomination. Here is...
  • NJDC Accuses McCain of “Picking on Jewish Supreme Court Justices”

    08/21/2008 9:54:12 AM PDT · by Winged Hussar · 28 replies · 298+ views
    IsraPundit ^ | 8/21/08 | Bill Levinson
    Group also whitewashed MoveOn.org hate speech, published anti-Christian hate video The National Jewish Democratic Council is grasping at straws in its latest effort to smear John McCain. “McCain Picking on Jewish Supreme Court Justices?” (http://njdc.typepad.com/njdcs_blog/2008/08/mccain-picking.html) says, When Pastor Rick Warren asked Senator John McCain to name his least favorite current U.S. Supreme Court justices it seemed that he was picking on the Jewish members of our highest court. A review of the Kelo vs. New London decision, in which the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that municipalities can collude with private developers to use eminent domain to steal property for private...
  • Bad news should wake up Obama, experts say

    08/21/2008 9:38:55 AM PDT · by Zakeet · 45 replies · 81+ views
    San Francisco Chronicle ^ | August 21, 2008 | Carla Marinucci
    It's not panic time - yet - but some Democrats watching Barack Obama say his campaign should have gotten a wake-up call this week, not only from his appearance with John McCain at the Saddleback Church but from a major poll suggesting he no longer leads his GOP opponent. At the Saddleback forum with Pastor Rick Warren on Saturday in Orange County, the Republican presidential candidate delivered on-the-money messages and answers so effective they were "scary to me," said George Lakoff, a renowned author and UC Berkeley linguistics professor who has studied how the human brain absorbs and processes messages....
  • No Theocracy Here: Saddleback Does What American Christians Have Always Done

    08/21/2008 9:29:13 AM PDT · by AreaMan · 16 replies · 118+ views
    Scriptorium Daily ^ | 21 Aug 08 | John Mark Reynolds
    No Theocracy Here: Saddleback Does What American Christians Have Always Done John Mark ReynoldsPolitics 08.21.2008 And lo it is a few days after the Saddleback Civil Forum and the republic is still safe. Extremists on both sides of religion and government issues are deeply disappointed. The thin slice of religious people in America who are theocrats have long viewed Warren as an enemy. The Civil Forum confirmed their worst fears. Warren held a civil conversation with people whom he is not in agreement. He was polite to the “enemy” and yet he has not yet been smitten with boils or...
  • Governing is Above Obama's Pay Grade

    08/21/2008 5:59:47 AM PDT · by Kaslin · 58 replies · 118+ views
    Townhall.com ^ | august 20, 2008 | Michael Reagan
    Anybody who watched Barack Obama’s sorry performance during Saturday Night’s Saddleback Civil Forum on the Presidency with Pastor Rick Warren had to come away with the question, “What is this guy doing running for president of the United States?” The worshipping media described his comments as “nuanced,” the word they use to describe “wishy-washy.” It was full of those “on the other hand” answers to Pastor Warren’s probing questions. Obama was anything but wishy-washy, however, when he said that knowing when human life begins was “above his pay grade.” He was just plain evasive, obviously seeking to play down his...
  • McCain vs. Obama: Showdown at Saddleback

    08/20/2008 10:12:44 PM PDT · by Kaslin · 13 replies · 201+ views
    Townhall.com ^ | August 20, 2008 | Larry Elder
    Oh, no, not another "town hall" meeting. Or at least, that's how I first reacted when I learned Rev. Rick Warren of Saddleback Church intended to host an Obama-versus-McCain town hall forum at the evangelist's California church. But the rules, this time at least, seemed intriguing. Warren intended to ask each candidate one-on-one questions for one hour, with the rival offstage unable to hear questions and answers. The second candidate would then come out and answer the same questions in the same order. Obama, via a coin toss, went first, and answered the often simple, straightforward questions carefully or, as...
  • Bill Maher likes Rick Warren (surprise surprise)

    08/20/2008 8:29:39 PM PDT · by Terriergal · 23 replies · 371+ views
    Larry King Live ^ | 8-19-08 | larry king, bill maher
    "Rick Warren ? Big improvement over Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell. If we have to have a Pope of the Super Christ-ies, I'd rather it be him." "What I don't like about religion is you know ask any of the truly devout -- it's not mainly about doing the right thing or being ethical, it's mainly about salvation, it's mainly about getting your butt saved when you die. And that's why I think they're less moral than ethicists." "[Rick Warren is] better, he's an improvement."
  • Campaign observers: Time is ripe for Obama to step up his game

    08/20/2008 7:44:23 PM PDT · by 2ndDivisionVet · 49 replies · 112+ views
    The San Francisco Chronicle ^ | August 20, 2008 | Carla Marinucci
    It's not panic time - yet - but some Democrats watching Barack Obama say his campaign should have gotten a wake-up call this week, not only from his appearance alongside John McCain at the Saddleback Church but from a major poll suggesting he no longer leads his GOP opponent. At the Saddleback forum with Pastor Rick Warren on Saturday in San Diego, the Republican presidential candidate delivered on-the-money messages and answers so effective they were "scary to me," said George Lakoff, a renowned author and UC Berkeley linguistics professor who has studied how the human brain absorbs and processes messages....
  • Obama Channels UN’s Egeland In Sneering at American Charity

    08/20/2008 3:32:19 PM PDT · by Free ThinkerNY · 18 replies · 172+ views
    hotair.com ^ | August 20, 2008 | Ed Morrissey
    As if Barack Obama didn’t do enough damage with his “above my pay grade” response on abortion at the Saddleback Church presidential forum on Saturday, Jay Ambrose finds another revealing nugget in a different answer Obama gave Rick Warren. When asked about his own shortcomings, Obama gave an initially touching response in identifying a “fundamental selfishness” in his youth that led to destructive behaviors. Unfortunately, Obama then expanded on his statement to accuse Americans of a lack of charity: “Americans’ greatest moral failure in my lifetime,” he said, “has been that we still don’t abide by that basic precept in...
  • ENPR: Abortion and Obama Missteps Give McCain Momentum

    08/20/2008 2:52:31 PM PDT · by 2ndDivisionVet · 5 replies · 104+ views
    Human Events ^ | August 20, 2008 | Timothy P. Carney
    Outlook The Democratic National Convention and buzz over Sen. Barack Obama's running mate comes at the perfect time to halt Sen. John McCain's momentum. The broad pessimism about GOP chances has, in recent weeks, found justifiable solace in Obama's inability to pull away. Recent Obama missteps on discussing his record (see below) together with his sub-par performance in the "Civic Forum" over the weekend (see below) have compounded Democrats' worry. A Zogby poll showing McCain ahead by five points should not be taken to indicate he is the front-runner, but it certainly helps puncture the notion that Obama is way...
  • Obama Saddleback Interview: Supreme Court Dislikes Tells Story About His Possible Presidency

    08/20/2008 9:30:19 AM PDT · by Daniel T. Zanoza · 9 replies · 207+ views
    RFFM.org ^ | August 20, 2008 | Daniel T. Zanoza
    Many Americans watched Pastor Rick Warren question Senators John McCain and Barack Obama at the Saddleback Civil Forum late last week. Frankly, I was amazed Obama would agree to be questioned by a fundamentalist minister. It's no secret Obama is one of the most liberal, if not the most liberal, politicians on the national scene today. And it is testimony to the hubris of the junior Senator from Illinois if he thought the interview would benefit his campaign. It is clear, since Obama became the Democratic Party's presumptive presidential nominee, he has been tacking towards the political center. Obama has...
  • Photographic proof debunking the latest Democrat lie about the McCain - Rep John Lewis relationship!

    08/20/2008 11:19:13 AM PDT · by Republican Extremist · 37 replies · 267+ views
    My own amazing brain ^ | 8-20-08 | Republican Extremist
    The latest Democrat lie of the day is about McCain listing Rep. John Lewis as one of his advisors in response to this question at Saddleback:Who were the three wisest people that you know that you would rely on heavily in an administration? McCain said: "John Lewis was at the Edmund Pettus Bridge, had his skull fractured; continued to serve, continues to have the most optimistic outlook about America. He can teach us all a lot about the meanings of courage and commitment to causes greater than our self-interest."The left is out today with numerous stories saying that McCain lied,...
  • MSM “Cone Of Silence” On Obama’s Lies About His Abortion Record

    08/20/2008 5:09:13 AM PDT · by theothercheek · 2 replies · 64+ views
    The Stiletto Blog ^ | August 20, 2008 | The Stiletto
    After John McCain stole the show at Rick Warren’s “Saddleback Civil Forum on the Presidency,” Barack Obama’s moonbat and MSM supporters cried foul. They insisted that since McCain was en route during part of Obama’s interview with Warren, he could have been listening to the questions and answers. As “proof,” the conspiracy theorists pointed out that McCain started answering a question about Supreme Court Justices that Warren hadn’t asked yet. But McCain was merely circling back to finish a point he was going to make about his commitment to pro-life policies before getting interrupted by Warren. ... because he –...
  • Obama and McCain: The Selfless-Driven Interviews

    08/20/2008 5:04:57 AM PDT · by Ed Hudgins · 7 replies · 72+ views
    The Atlas Society - The Center for Objectivism ^ | August 19, 2008 | Dr. Edward Hudgins
    **The first 2008 presidential election event involving the presumptive nominees, Illinois Democratic Senator Barack Obama and Arizona Republican Senator John McCain, took place on August 16 at the Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California. The event was moderated by that church’s pastor, Rick Warren, author of a pop-religion, how-to-improve-your-soul book entitled The Purpose-Driven Life. Warren began by telling his in-house evangelical audience and Fox News Channel viewers that, “We believe in the separation of church and state but we do not believe in the separation of faith and politics because faith is just a worldview and everybody has some kind...
  • Obama and McCain: The Selfless-Driven Interviews

    08/20/2008 4:51:16 AM PDT · by Ed Hudgins · 5 replies · 100+ views
    The Atlas Society - The Center for Objectivism ^ | August 19, 2008 | Dr. Edward Hudgins
    The first 2008 presidential election event involving the presumptive nominees, Illinois Democratic Senator Barack Obama and Arizona Republican Senator John McCain, took place on August 16 at the Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California. The event was moderated by that church’s pastor, Rick Warren, author of a pop-religion, how-to-improve-your-soul book entitled The Purpose-Driven Life. Warren began by telling his in-house evangelical audience and Fox News Channel viewers that, “We believe in the separation of church and state but we do not believe in the separation of faith and politics because faith is just a worldview and everybody has some kind...
  • Unequivocal ambiguity: The candidates' faith figured out

    08/20/2008 2:09:50 AM PDT · by JohnHuang2 · 4 replies · 153+ views
    Washington Times ^ | 8/19/08 | Tara Wall
    Watching the two presidential candidates court "evangelicals" by way of the Saddleback Church Civil Forum Saturday night was an exercise of perplexing proportions. While both senators clearly have very distinct delivery styles and vastly different approaches to addressing the issues of our day, John McCain undoubtedly restored faith among the faithful. As eloquent and smooth as Barack Obama can be (and he had his impressive moments that left me moved), his vague and ambiguous answers to the most innocuous questions on faith and American politics were at best disappointing. The forum's audience consisted of a voting bloc Mr. Obama needs...
  • A Closer Look At Saddleback, Obama's Faith

    08/20/2008 9:24:49 AM PDT · by jazusamo · 8 replies · 109+ views
    The Bulletin ^ | August 20, 2008 | Herb Denenberg
    The second in a two-part series. Here's one more of many important examples of the failure of the criticism of the important new book by Jerome Corsi titled The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality. The critics point to a bunch of relatively insignificant matters such as whether Sen. Barack Obama had relatives in Chicago, whether he dedicated his book to his mother, and other so-what propositions. It avoids the major issues, such as Mr. Obama's anti-Americanism. In fact, the critics of Mr. Corsi's book and the Obama campaign don't deal with Mr. Obama's deep-seated anti-Americanism. The...
  • Pastor Rick's Test

    08/20/2008 7:00:36 AM PDT · by tflabo · 38 replies · 136+ views
    Washington ComPost ^ | 08/20/08 | Kathleen Parker
    At the risk of heresy, let it be said that setting up the two presidential candidates for religious interrogation by an evangelical minister -- no matter how beloved -- is supremely wrong. It is also un-American. For the past several days, since mega-pastor Rick Warren interviewed Barack Obama and John McCain at his Saddleback Church, most political debate has focused on who won. Was it the nuanced, thoughtful Obama, who may have convinced a few more skeptics that he isn't a Muslim? Or was it the direct, confident McCain, who breezes through town-hall-style meetings the way Obama sinks three-pointers from...
  • 8 Million Reasons Why Obama Welcomes The Abortion Debate!

    08/20/2008 6:34:23 AM PDT · by Jabrown · 18 replies · 104+ views
    PDOP ^ | 08/20/2008 | Jarid Brown
    ...For the Obama campaign whose perceived economic advantage is slipping and who is now overwhelmingly viewed as the weaker candidate on National Security, a focus on social issues is a welcome distraction. As long as we debate the stances and merits of the candidates Pro-Life or Pro-Choice policies, the Obama campaign does not have to deal with the real issues. Obama's gaffes of Saturday night, for which there were plenty, have been all but forgotten by the media because of this new focus on the abortion issue. There is a bigger reason, however, why the Obama campaign welcomes this new...
  • McCain up a nickel in Reuters/Zogby poll

    08/20/2008 5:34:26 AM PDT · by Salena Zito · 46 replies · 147+ views
    Pittsburgh Tribune Review ^ | August 20, 2008 | Salena Zito
    Sen. John McCain has pulled a nickel ahead of Sen. Barack Obama in the Reuters/Zogby poll, marking the first time the Arizona Senator has taken any lead in this monthly poll. The poll conducted last Thursday through Saturday came on the heels of the Russian invasion of Georgia -- the same time period that Obama vacationed in Hawaii, giving McCain the advantage of reinforcing his foreign policy positions.
  • Pay grade’ unartful dodge Smart money shouldn’t be on Obama

    08/20/2008 5:27:25 AM PDT · by milwguy · 18 replies · 105+ views
    Boston Herald ^ | 8/20/2008 | michael graham
    “Well, uh, you know, I think that whether you’re looking at it from a theological perspective or, uh, a scientific perspective, uh, answering that question with specificity, uh, you know, is, is, uh, above my pay grade.” - Sen. Barack Obama, on “When does a baby get human rights?” In 1948, they had Harry Truman and “The buck stops here!” In 2008, they’ve got Barack Obama and it’s “above my pay grade.” This is definitely not your grandfather’s Democratic Party. Certainly not mine. My grandfather, Ray Futrell, was a lifelong FDR Democrat, the kind who would proudly rather vote for...
  • Good and Evil and Obama

    08/20/2008 5:27:52 AM PDT · by Kaslin · 7 replies · 157+ views
    Townhall.com ^ | August 20, 2008 | Jonah Goldberg
    In the wake of the fascinating forum hosted by Pastor Rick Warren at his Saddleback Church in Orange County, Calif., everyone is focusing on the contrasts between presidential candidates John McCain and Barack Obama. More interesting are the contrasts between the intellectual-theologian Obama and the political Obama. "Does evil exist?" Warren asked Obama. "And if it does, do we ignore it, do we negotiate with it, do we contain it, or do we defeat it?" Obama the would-be moral philosopher replied, accurately, that evil is everywhere, in Darfur, in our streets, in our own hearts. We cannot "erase evil from...
  • Purpose-Driven Politics

    08/20/2008 5:09:27 AM PDT · by Kaslin · 22 replies · 84+ views
    Townhall.com ^ | August 20, 2008 | Kathleen Parker
    At the risk of heresy, let it be said that setting up the two presidential candidates for religious interrogation by an evangelical minister -- no matter how beloved -- is supremely wrong. It is also un-American. For the past several days, since mega-pastor Rick Warren interviewed Barack Obama and John McCain at his Saddleback Church, most political debate has focused on who won. Was it the nuanced, thoughtful Obama, who may have convinced a few more skeptics that he isn't a Muslim? Or was it the direct, confident McCain, who breezes through town hall-style meetings the way Obama sinks three-pointers...
  • DEMS: From "The Buck Stops Here" to "Above My Pay Grade"

    08/20/2008 4:08:29 AM PDT · by suspects · 19 replies · 291+ views
    Boston Herald ^ | August 20, 2008 | Michael Graham
    In 1948, they had Harry Truman and “The buck stops here!” In 2008, they’ve got Barack Obama and it’s “above my pay grade.” This is definitely not your grandfather’s Democratic Party. Certainly not mine. My grandfather, Ray Futrell, was a lifelong FDR Democrat, the kind who would proudly rather vote for a wife-beating, syphilitic drunkard than for a Republican. In fact, he would find the previous sentence entirely redundant. My grandfather helped push Patton’s tanks across Europe, and one reason for my grandfather’s unshakable party loyalty was his belief that Harry Truman saved his life by dropping the A-bombs on...
  • Why Obama couldn't answer Warren's baby question

    08/20/2008 2:11:44 AM PDT · by JohnHuang2 · 26 replies · 548+ views
    WorldNetDaily.com ^ | August 20, 2008 | Jill Stanek
    Barack Obama has painted himself into a corner by his vote against the Illinois Born Alive Infants Protection Act. He made this evident at Pastor Rick Warren's Aug. 17 Saddleback Showdown. Warren asked both presidential candidates the same questions separately. Here was his best one: "At what point does a baby get human rights in your view?" Very simple. But Obama wouldn't answer it. His now infamous response: "Well, I think that whether you are looking at it from a theological perspective or a scientific perspective, answering that question with specificity, you know, is above my pay grade." The most...
  • Forum Reveals Wider Agenda Of Evangelicals (Barf Alert!!!)

    08/19/2008 9:15:18 PM PDT · by Kaslin · 10 replies · 88+ views
    IBD Editorials ^ | August 19, 2008 | E.J. DIONNE JR.
    Anyone who still doubts that the evangelical Christian world is going through a political revolution was not watching Pastor Rick Warren's presidential forum over the weekend. The era of reducing Christianity to a narrow set of ideological commitments is over. Just a few years back, who would have imagined that Barack Obama and John McCain would hold a discussion of this sort in a church? Who would have thought that the session would be moderated by an evangelical pastor who was emphatic in counting both the Democrat and the Republican as his "friends"? Who would have predicted that in such...
  • Is the tide turning?

    08/19/2008 5:12:38 PM PDT · by flyfree · 68 replies · 115+ views
    David Gergen
    Heading into the candidates’ appearances on Saturday night at Saddleback Church, the conventional wisdom in politics was Barack Obama should have a clear upper hand in any joint appearance with John McCain — one the young, eloquent, cool, charismatic dude who can charm birds from the trees, the other the meandering, sometimes bumbling, old fellow who can barely distinguish Sunnis from Shiias. Well, kiss that myth goodbye. McCain came roaring out of the gate from the first question and was a commanding figure throughout the night as he spoke directly and often movingly about his past and the country’s future....
  • The politics God wants you to have

    08/19/2008 5:12:32 PM PDT · by Alex Murphy · 11 replies · 75+ views
    Milwaukee Journal Sentinel ^ | Aug 19 2008 | Patrick McIlheran
    The Washington Post's E.J. Dionne observes the job interviews to which Barack Obama and John McCain submitted over the weekend at evangelist Rick Warren's Saddleback megachurch, and he is much impressed. With Warren. That's because Warren, who wrote a business bestseller, "The Purpose Driven Life," has been trying to get evangelical believers to stop paying so much attention to abortion, a subject on which only one party tries competing for their affections. Warren, Dionne writes, "has been leading evangelicals out of a political dead end that chose to ignore large parts of the Christian message."By this, Dionne means conservatism. "The...
  • Word Clouds From Saddleback Forum

    08/19/2008 4:55:12 PM PDT · by Blogger · 31 replies · 232+ views
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  • The sanctity of life [Saddleback debate]

    08/19/2008 4:43:58 PM PDT · by SJackson · 6 replies · 100+ views
    Renew America ^ | 8-19-08 | Bryan Fischer
    "...the baby leaped in her womb..." ~ Luke 1:41 "...the baby in my womb leaped for joy..." ~ Luke 1:44 The two primary contenders for the presidency, Sen. Barack Obama and Sen. John McCain, appeared at a forum on Saturday night and responded to questions posed by Saddleback Church's senior pastor, Rick Warren, author of the huge bestseller "The Purpose Driven Life." To Warren's credit, he posed direct questions to each candidate on abortion and marriage, after earlier giving indications that he would avoid such controversial topics, an avoidance that would have masked Obama's radicalism and boosted his standing among...
  • McCain Wins (Saddleback) with Home Field Advantage

    08/19/2008 5:01:54 PM PDT · by 2ndDivisionVet · 53 replies · 755+ views
    The Washington Post/Newsweek ^ | August 19, 2008 | Professor Jacques Berlinerblau
    The hands-down winner of Saturday evening's Saddleback Civil Forum on the Presidency was John McCain. The loser was American secularism. As for Barack Obama, well, let's just say it was his most_Dukakis-y performance_yet. While commentators have made much of how "nuanced" Obama was in his responses to Pastor Rick Warren's prompts, I think it would be better to describe him as "calm, even subdued." And let me not mince words: being nuanced, calm and even subdued is not necessarily the winning formula in front of a megachurch full of Evangelicals. In mainstream Evangelical culture one testifies to the Glory of...