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  • Did Next Commander-in-Chief Falsify Selective Service Registration?

    11/15/2009 4:57:38 PM PST · by FromLori · 56 replies · 4,153+ views
    Debbie Schlussel ^ | 11/13/09 | Debbie Schlussel
    Did President-elect Barack Hussein Obama commit a federal crime in September of this year? Or did he never actually register and, instead, did friends of his in the Chicago federal records center, which maintains the official copy of his alleged Selective Service registration commit the crime for him? It’s either one or the other, as indicated by the release of Barack Obama’s official Selective Service registration for the draft. A friend of mine, who is a retired federal agent, spent almost a year trying to obtain this document through a Freedom of Information Act request, and, after much stonewalling, finally...
  • Selective Service was unknown to me

    10/22/2009 9:43:13 AM PDT · by Jeremiah1 · 167 replies · 3,977+ views
    Jeremiah1
    When I found out about the selective service registration I was devastated. I am 32 yrs. old, have a wife and three children and am struggling to make dinner much less a future. I was recently layed off for the second time in 1 yr. Going back to the unemployment office was something I dreaded. I heard that President Obama made it possible to recieve unemployment benefits while attending school to change your career!! Fantastic, I thought. After alot of thought and planning my wife and I decided this was best for our family. I went to my local college,...
  • Obama Draft Dodge? Selective Service Chief Has No Explanation for Inconsistencies (video)

    03/26/2009 5:18:51 AM PDT · by nysuperdoodle · 71 replies · 3,184+ views
    Evil Conservative Radio ^ | 25 March 2009 | EC
    Dr. Orly Taitz, who has been on the East Coast splitting time between shooting a documentary with NMATV and ECR that will be out next week, while she also pounded the pavement in Washington looking for some venue in which to determine Obama's eligibility, updates ECR on her last day in Washington, including a meeting with William Chatfield, Director of Selective Service. How did he respond when confronted with documentation of Obama's duplicity? If you think this documentation raises questions that deserve to be answered, you can call, write, fax or email Mr. Chatfield at: Public and Intergovernmental Affairs Selective...
  • Draft mandate for fed jobs ruled unconstitutional (Selective Service sign-up for males)

    01/27/2009 8:53:17 PM PST · by 2ndDivisionVet · 27 replies · 1,210+ views
    Yahoo! News Singapore / The Associated Press ^ | January 28, 2009 | Denise Lavoie
    Henry Tucker had worked for the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. for 17 years when he was told he was going to lose his job _ because he hadn't registered for the military draft when he was 18. Tucker was offered another job as a budget analyst at the National Institutes of Health, but that was withdrawn when the agency learned he never registered. Tucker, now 38, said when he was 18, he didn't know he had to register for Selective Service. "There hasn't been a draft since I was a child. To all of a sudden say this is an...
  • Draft requirement for fed jobs challenged

    01/27/2009 11:57:37 AM PST · by SmithL · 40 replies · 1,280+ views
    AP via SFGate ^ | 1/27/9 | DENISE LAVOIE, AP Legal Affairs Writer
    BOSTON (AP) -- Henry Tucker had worked for the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. for 17 years when he was told he was going to lose his job — because he hadn't registered for the military draft when he was 18. Tucker was offered another job as a budget analyst at the National Institutes of Health, but that was withdrawn when the agency learned he never registered. Tucker, now 38, said when he was 18, he didn't know he had to register for Selective Service. "There hasn't been a draft since I was a child. To all of a sudden say...
  • re: Obama Selective Service - retired federal agent Stephen Coffman disscusses possible crimes

    11/27/2008 8:16:15 AM PST · by doug from upland · 64 replies · 2,864+ views
    debbie schlussel dot com ^ | 11-27-08 | Coffman
    COMMENT ON DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL WEBSITE: Let's say it's absolutely proven Obama never registered for Selective Service. PLEASE, I need to know what laws will make him ineligible for service in the Executive Branch? Which laws will make it illegal for him to be president if he never registered for Selective Service? Posted by: Carmen at November 27, 2008 02:31 AM +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ RESPONSE FROM STEPHEN COFFMAN (it is worth going to the site, scrolling down, and reading the response...if the document is false, Obama has committed a new crime or several crimes): Carmen, the US Constitution says at Art. I Sec....
  • Obama Selective Service Registration: Another Obama Record, Another Question

    11/25/2008 8:54:50 AM PST · by Maelstorm · 10 replies · 1,766+ views
    http://deathby1000papercuts.com ^ | November 17, 2008 | Debbie Schlussel
      No Curiosity Excited in the Mainstream Media About Obama’s Selective Service Registration Learning a Lesson from the 1990s Clintons Say what you will, Debbie Schlussel is interesting.Last week, the motor behind debbieschlussel.com posted an interesting article about the Selective Service registration of Barack Obama. Multiple screenshots–complete with letters A-H highlighting areas that raised questions–make the provocative post must-reading for anyone who has wondered about the squeaky-clean, scrubbed Obama narrative.In our opinion, Schlussel gets some things right, while other items are a bit less clear. One claim Schlussel makes that falls into the “dubious” category: Obama signed his name with...
  • Examination of Obama’s Selective Service Registration Raises Questions

    11/25/2008 9:00:34 AM PST · by Maelstorm · 24 replies · 3,226+ views
    http://www.breitbart.tv ^ | 11-14-2008 | www.breitbart.tv
    The B-Cast: Examination of Obama’s Selective Service Registration Raises Questions 11-14-2008 11:42 pm   -  Breitbart.tv/Hot Metal Media
  • Media admissions and police state tactics (Birth Cert, Selective Service questions remain)

    11/24/2008 10:33:12 AM PST · by Maelstorm · 27 replies · 1,712+ views
    http://www.redbluffdailynews.com ^ | Nov 24, 2008 | By Don Polson
    Consider some remarkable statements from the news media and what they reveal. Washington Post's ombudsman, Deborah Howell, examined that paper's coverage and found that it tilted in Barack Obama's favor in every measurable way. At least ABC's correspondent, Linda Douglass, had the integrity to leave her day job and actually work for the Obama campaign. More revealing post-election quotes: MSNBC's pseudo-reporter/analyst Chris Matthews (removed from anchoring convention coverage due to bias), let us know recently that he considers it his "job" to help President-elect Obama "make this thing work." That drew a credulous Joe Scarborough to question if that was...
  • Forged Selective Service Form Related to Missing Birth Certificate?

    11/16/2008 8:35:29 PM PST · by motoman · 96 replies · 3,113+ views
    DebbieSchlussel.com ^ | November 13, 2008 | Debbie Schlussel
    Although this link has been previously posted, I believe that this "forged" document and the Birth Certificate controversy are related. ...Did Next Commander-in-Chief Falsify Selective Service Registration? Never Actually Register? Obama's Draft Registration Raises Serious Questions
  • EXCLUSIVE: Did Next Commander-in-Chief Falsify Selective Service Registration?

    11/15/2008 9:52:15 AM PST · by Winged Hussar · 30 replies · 2,458+ views
    Debbieschlussel.com ^ | 11/13/08 | Debbie Schlussel
    Did President-elect Barack Hussein Obama commit a federal crime in September of this year? Or did he never actually register and, instead, did friends of his in the Chicago federal records center, which maintains the official copy of his alleged Selective Service registration commit the crime for him? ...But the release of Obama's draft registration and an accompanying document, posted below, raises more questions than it answers. And it shows many signs of fraud, not to mention putting the lie to Obama's claim that he registered for the draft in June 1979, before it was required by law.
  • EXCLUSIVE: Did Next Commander-in-Chief Falsify Selective Service Registration?

    11/13/2008 12:08:24 PM PST · by Danae · 123 replies · 5,601+ views
    Debbieschlussel.com ^ | 11/13/2008 | Debbie Schlussel
    November 13, 2008 EXCLUSIVE: Did Next Commander-in-Chief Falsify Selective Service Registration? Never Actually Register? Obama's Draft Registration Raises Serious Questions By Debbie Schlussel **** Copyright 2008, Must Cite Debbie Schlussel and link to DebbieSchlussel.com **** *** SCROLL DOWN FOR UPDATE *** Did President-elect Barack Hussein Obama commit a federal crime in September of this year? Or did he never actually register and, instead, did friends of his in the Chicago federal records center, which maintains the official copy of his alleged Selective Service registration commit the crime for him? It's either one or the other, as indicated by the release...
  • At ‘the point of the spear’: Are Americans ready for women registering for the military draft?

    10/29/2008 1:12:38 PM PDT · by 2ndDivisionVet · 47 replies · 1,019+ views
    World Magazine ^ | October 27, 2008 | Lynn Vincent
    Barack Obama has consistently and very publicly staked out policy positions far to the left of the American public on such issues as taxes, abortion, and same-sex marriage. But one issue has slipped quietly under the radar: If elected president, the Illinois senator would require women to register for the military draft. As commander in chief, he would also consider assigning women to roles in close combat, also known as "the point of the spear." "Women are already serving in combat [in Iraq and Afghanistan], and the current policy should be updated to reflect realities on the ground," Obama spokeswoman...
  • The quasi military draft in Barack Obama's Budget?

    10/28/2008 12:46:09 PM PDT · by 2ndDivisionVet · 4 replies · 731+ views
    Unheard American Voices ^ | October 24, 2008 | Karen Hill
    Is there a hidden quasi military draft in Barack Obama's budget? It is one I do not think American college students nor their parents nor many Americans will find.....umm pleasant. I do not understand why college students would cast a vote for someone purposing this kind of budget which will effect many many that attempt to gain an education or why a parent facing the daunting higher education bills for a child or even why any American would seek to send more of our desperately needed funds to foreign shores to help others who are also in need. The education...
  • Obama Says Women Should Register For Selective Service

    10/13/2008 9:56:32 AM PDT · by MountainLoop · 68 replies · 2,117+ views
    Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | October 13, 2008 | Jerome L. Sherman
    Even as the U.S. confronts two long wars, neither Sen. John McCain nor Sen. Barack Obama believes the country should take the politically perilous step of reviving the military draft. But the two presidential candidates disagree on a key foundation of any future draft: Mr. Obama supports a requirement for both men and women to register with the Selective Service, while Mr. McCain doesn't think women should have to register. Also, Mr. Obama would consider officially opening combat positions to women. Mr. McCain would not. Read more here
  • Candidates differ on female draft (Obama for, McCain against)

    10/13/2008 8:10:02 AM PDT · by 2ndDivisionVet · 6 replies · 624+ views
    The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | October 13, 2008 | Jerome L. Sherman
    Even as the U.S. confronts two long wars, neither Sen. John McCain nor Sen. Barack Obama believes the country should take the politically perilous step of reviving the military draft. But the two presidential candidates disagree on a key foundation of any future draft: Mr. Obama supports a requirement for both men and women to register with the Selective Service, while Mr. McCain doesn't think women should have to register. Also, Mr. Obama would consider officially opening combat positions to women. Mr. McCain would not. "Women are already serving in combat [in Iraq and Afghanistan] and the current policy should...
  • Obama and the Selcetive Service

    09/08/2008 5:25:27 PM PDT · by Nick Thimmesch · 37 replies · 216+ views
    ABC/Mark Levin Show ^ | 9/7/08 | ABC News/Mark Levin Show
    On Monday, September 8th, on The Mark Levin Show, after Levin aired part of ABC's "This Week" interview with Obambi where he answered a question about ever being interested in joining the U.S. military (assuming it WAS the U.S. military and not, say, Kenya's), a caller called Mark to question Obambi's answer. Basically, Obambi said when he graduated high school, he had to register with the Selective Service and at that time, considered military service. The caller pointed out that the Selective Service did not require men to register when they turned 18 (I believe the important date for the...
  • O-Busted: Selective Service Requirement Did Not Exist When Obama Says He Registered

    09/07/2008 9:32:43 PM PDT · by Free ThinkerNY · 64 replies · 496+ views
    newsbusters.org ^ | September 7, 2008 | Tom Blumer
    It remains whether this turns out to be Barack Obama's "Christmas in Cambodia" untruth, his Dukakis-in-tank hilarity -- or both. Regardless, what follows is a pretty obvious "misstatement" that would not possibly be ignored if it were uttered by a conservative or a Republican. In his hilariously titled post ("Mighta Joined If He Coulda Capped Some Cong") on Barack Obama's interview in a barn this morning (not kidding) on This Week with Georage Stephanopoulos, fellow NewsBuster Mark Finkelstein reported on Obama's answer to a viewer's question about whether he ever considered military service. You can read Mark's post for his...
  • Did Obama Tell A Lie About Desire To Join Military?

    09/07/2008 5:54:21 PM PDT · by GVnana · 57 replies · 389+ views
    Big Dogs Weblog ^ | 9/7/2008 | Big Dog
    Did Obama Tell A Lie About Desire To Join Military? Posted at 19:30 by Big Dog in Political Barack Obama must need more sleep and after the week he has had he must need a cigarette. The Sainted One was on This Week with George Stephanopoulos and he made two mistakes. The first one dealt with the smears against candidates and he stated that the McCain campaign had not brought up “My Muslim faith”. I know what he meant but it was certainly a slip of the tongue he does not need because under Islam one may lie to further...
  • Barack Obama Lies About Registering for Selective Service

    09/07/2008 1:34:51 PM PDT · by flyfree · 56 replies · 577+ views
    During his 7 September 2008 interview with George Stephanopoulos on ABC's This Week with George Stephanopoulos, Obama said the following: "I had to sign up for Selective Service when I graduated from high school. And I was growing up in Hawaii. And I have friends whose parents were in the military. There are a lot of Army, military bases there. "And I actually always thought of the military as an ennobling and, you know, honorable option. But keep in mind that I graduated in 1979. The Vietnam War had come to an end. We weren't engaged in an active military...
  • A question about Barack H. Obama

    08/25/2008 3:16:55 PM PDT · by oneolcop · 33 replies · 189+ views
    August 25, 2008 | oneolcop
    Does anyone know if Barack H. Obama "The One" registered for the draft?
  • Did Obama Actually Register for Selective Service?

    08/12/2008 12:43:49 PM PDT · by pissant · 36 replies · 915+ views
    Pajamas media ^ | 8/12/08 | Bob Owens
    (snip) After contacting the Selective Service System for an answer several times since late June, Pajamas Media obtained official confirmation from the Selective Service System via email that Barack Obama did indeed register for the Selective Service as required by law, and is eligible to run for the presidency. Mr. Owens, Barack Hussein Obama registered at a post office in Hawaii. The effective registration date was September 4, 1980. His registration number is 61-1125539-1. Daniel Amon Public Affairs Specialist
  • Is Obama Leagally Qualified to be President?

    06/10/2008 9:03:27 AM PDT · by youshouldknowthetruth · 75 replies · 428+ views
    The Web
    I really haven't the slightest knowledge about this issue, but I did find an interesting analysis of his status, as a "Naturalized Citizen"... http://www.aina.org/news/20080610032620.htm
  • "His True Name Is Barak Hussein Muhammed Obama"

    05/12/2008 8:44:49 PM PDT · by BunnySlippers · 91 replies · 1,071+ views
    Politifact ^ | 05/12/08 | Unknown
    "His True Name Is Barak Hussein Muhammed Obama" No Muhammed or Mohammed in Obama’s name A chain e-mail that originates with a letter from American missionaries working in Kenya warns about Sen. Barack Obama’s ties to Kenya and its opposition party, encouraging readers “not to be taken in by those that are promoting him.” Among the many allegations is one about Obama’s name: “By the way. His true name is Barak Hussein Muhammed Obama. Won’t that sound sweet to our enemies as they swear him in on the Koran! God bless you.” The e-mail reads like a bad game of...
  • Man who didn't register for draft sues IRS over firing, claims gender discrimination

    01/21/2008 3:57:42 PM PST · by PercivalWalks · 5 replies · 85+ views
    glennsacks.com ^ | 1-19-08 | Glenn Sacks
    "When he turned 18, Michael B. Elgin Jr. was a homeless father of a toddler, trying to get himself through high school while living with friends, relatives and, sometimes, in his car. Elgin did not know at the time, his lawyer says, but by failing to register for selective military service within 30 days of his 18th birthday, he broke the law."Last year, Elgin's employer of 18 years, the Internal Revenue Service, fired him, citing a ban on federal employment of men who have not registered, despite his exemplary record and appeals from his supervisors and co-workers. Last week, Elgin,...
  • Clinton Dons a 1960s-Era Anti-War Cloak

    11/03/2007 2:57:25 PM PDT · by 2ndDivisionVet · 27 replies · 107+ views
    The New York Sun ^ | November 2, 2007 | Seth Gitell
    WELLESLEY, Mass. — Senator Clinton is describing her opposition to the war in Iraq as an extension of Eugene McCarthy's position in the 1960s movement against the war in Vietnam. Mrs. Clinton's comments came at an energy-charged rally yesterday at her alma mater, Wellesley College. Her visit, the ostensible purpose of which was to announce a new Web site aimed at younger voters, hillblazers.com, created palpable excitement on campus. Hundreds of students lined up amid Wellesley's autumnal splendor for a chance to hear the speech of the 1969 graduate and then moved and bopped to the strands of Smash Mouth's...
  • Democrats Fuel Draft Hysteria but Political Gain Unlikely

    09/12/2007 1:31:28 AM PDT · by 2ndDivisionVet · 1 replies · 238+ views
    The Rothenberg Political Report ^ | September 10, 2007 | Stuart Rothenberg
    Some Democrats have decided to try to transform the military draft into what the Social Security issue was 25 years ago. Time and time again since the late 1970s, Democratic candidates and campaign committees sought to win the votes of seniors by raising questions about whether Republicans would dismantle Social Security if they ever won control of Congress. The Democrats’ scare tactics on Social Security were not without basis. Republicans opposed the creation of Social Security, and for more than a decade, many conservative GOP candidates and high-profile officeholders, including former Rep. Newt Gingrich (Ga.), bashed the system and berated...
  • Opinion: Not much to be said for this war effort

    09/08/2007 4:25:52 AM PDT · by 2ndDivisionVet · 25 replies · 574+ views
    Newsday ^ | September 6, 2007 | James P. Pinkerton
    Nearly six years after 9/11, what's striking is how little has changed in America - and in its war effort. And yet if we can't change ourselves, what are the chances that we can change others? When President George W. Bush declares that the Global War on Terror is "the concentrated work of generations," one has to wonder if he really means it. Certainly there's been little concentration on effective war mobilization, and other countries have noticed. As we look back to study wars that the United States has won - and why - the most obvious metric is the...
  • Bush War Adviser Says Draft Worth a Look

    08/10/2007 4:12:40 PM PDT · by 2ndDivisionVet · 158 replies · 3,076+ views
    Breitbart ^ | August 10, 2007 | RICHARD LARDNER
    Frequent tours for U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan have stressed the all-volunteer force and made it worth considering a return to a military draft, President Bush's new war adviser said Friday. "I think it makes sense to certainly consider it," Army Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute said in an interview with National Public Radio's "All Things Considered." "And I can tell you, this has always been an option on the table. But ultimately, this is a policy matter between meeting the demands for the nation's security by one means or another," Lute added in his first interview since he was...
  • [Democratic Senator] Dodd urges mandatory community service

    06/23/2007 11:28:52 AM PDT · by 2ndDivisionVet · 115 replies · 1,940+ views
    Yahoo! News ^ | June 23, 2007 | Holly Ramer
    NASHUA, N.H. - Aiming to create the first generation in which all Americans serve their country, Democratic presidential hopeful Chris Dodd is offering a range of initiatives to encourage — and in some cases compel — community service. "All Americans should serve our country," the Connecticut senator said in remarks prepared for delivery Saturday. "Endowed as we are with so many gifts, is it too much to ask that we each give something back to this remarkable place?" He proposes making community service mandatory for all high school students, doubling the size of the Peace Corps by 2011 and expanding...
  • Expert: Force Increase May Not Be Enough

    04/18/2007 12:25:16 PM PDT · by concretebob · 11 replies · 497+ views
    email...origins unknown | 17 April 2007 | Rick Maze
    The Senate Armed Services Committee heard testimony Tuesday that increasing the size of the Army and Marine Corps may not resolve severe and growing personnel problems. There was even talk of returning to the draft to fill the ranks. “It is better to take a smaller force than to lower your standards,” said Lawrence Korb, a former senior Pentagon personnel official now affiliated with the Center for Defense Information and the Center for American Progress. “The current use of ground forces in Iraq represents a complete misuse of the all-volunteer military,” he said. The all-volunteer force was never designed for...
  • Flurry of Calls About Draft, and a Day of Denials

    12/22/2006 11:58:25 PM PST · by 2ndDivisionVet · 23 replies · 913+ views
    The New York Times ^ | DECEMBER 23, 2006 | ERIC LICHTBLAU
    As the de facto media contact for the Selective Service System, Dick Flahavan is the Maytag repairman of government press people. With the military draft out of business since 1973, the Selective Service just doesn’t get a lot of calls these days. But by midday Friday, Mr. Flahavan’s office had fielded dozens of inquiries, not just from reporters but from some anxious parents as well, all with some variation of the same urgent question: Are you reinstituting the draft? So adamant was the denial that Mr. Flahavan, a bit beleaguered, had his staff members post an unplanned update Friday morning...
  • NY Libertarians Blast Democrat's Call For Renewed Draft

    11/23/2006 11:24:38 AM PST · by lpnykahuna · 33 replies · 936+ views
    Libertarian Party of New York ^ | 11/22/06 | Libertarian Party of New York
    Libertarians Blast Democrat's Call for Renewed Draft LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF NEW YORK (LPNY) www.ny.lp.org nylibertarian@hotmail.com; John Clifton www.electclifton.org 516-767-4688 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE LIBERTARIANS BLAST DEMOCRAT'S CALL FOR RENEWED DRAFT Albany, NY 11/22/06 New York's Libertarian Party has blasted incoming Democratic Congressional leader Charles Rangel (D-Harlem) announced that he will introduce legislation to restore the military draft. Former State Chair John Clifton of Queens is a former Navy nuclear submarine missile technician. Like Rangel he is black but opposes the draft and resents the Congressman's appeal to race on this issue for all Americans. "This is nothing less than a call...
  • A Peaceful Call to Arms

    04/20/2006 12:29:43 AM PDT · by neverdem · 24 replies · 834+ views
    NY TIMES ^ | April 20, 2006 | PAUL KANE
    THE American public needs to be prepared for what is shaping up to be a clash of colossal proportions between the West and Iran. President Franklin D. Roosevelt masterfully prepared Americans before the United States entered World War II by initiating a peacetime draft under the Selective Training and Service Act of 1940. Now, President Bush and Congress should reinstitute selective service under a lottery without any deferments. This single action will send a strong message to three constituencies in the crisis over Iran's nuclear intentions — Iran, outside powers like China and Russia and Americans at home — and...
  • Congressman renews call for reinstatement of draft

    02/25/2006 3:59:47 PM PST · by thinkwell · 101 replies · 2,288+ views
    Stars and Stripes ^ | February 26, 2006 | Leo Shane III
    WASHINGTON — A New York congressman has once again proposed reinstating the draft, not just to boost the ranks of U.S. fighters but also to discourage what he sees as some politicians’ cavalier attitude toward military action. Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., has introduced the legislation twice before, each time with no success. Two years ago the House rejected his idea by a 402-2 vote. Rangel, a Korean War veteran who has been a critic of the war in Iraq, said he doubts the measure will make any progress this time either, but believes debate over the issue will re-emphasize the...
  • I've Received An Application to Become a Member of My Local Selective Service Board (Vanity)

    09/29/2005 8:12:24 PM PDT · by Archangelsk · 39 replies · 792+ views
    9/29/05 | Me
    Yes, I filled it out and mailed it. No, I don't think a draft is imminent. Yes, I think it's an honor. And yes, I think it's prudent to have the mechanisms in place just in case.
  • Selective Service: Who must register? (You're not gonna believe this. Or, maybe you will.)

    04/04/2005 5:50:13 PM PDT · by tgslTakoma · 30 replies · 2,667+ views
    Selective Service System ^ | Who knows how long? | Uncle Sam
    WHO MUST REGISTER Almost all male U.S. citizens, and male aliens living in the U.S., who are 18 through 25, are required to register with Selective Service. It's important to know that even though he is registered, a man will not automatically be inducted into the military. In a crisis requiring a draft, men would be called in sequence determined by random lottery number and year of birth. Then, they would be examined for mental, physical and moral fitness by the military before being deferred or exempted from military service or inducted into the Armed Forces. A chart of who...
  • Question everything -- what's more patriotic? (BIG FreeRepublic mention)

    02/26/2005 11:07:56 AM PST · by RockinRye · 51 replies · 1,117+ views
    Stanford Daily ^ | 25 Feb 2005 | Kalani Leifer
    By Kalani Leifer Opinions Columnist Friday, February 25, 2005 “Dear Mr. Leifer: Too good to fight for your country, huh? Never mind. If need be, I suspect we can make do without you.” “Dear Mr. Smith: . . . So if you ask if I’m too good to fight for my country, I’d say no. I am, however, too good to blindly follow and not question, the very principle that makes this nation great. I’m extremely sorry you have forgotten this.” “Sir: You are a silly young man, full of your own self-importance, blinded by your own intellect. Perhaps we...
  • Question everything -- what's more patriotic? (this writer got freeped)

    02/25/2005 3:37:17 PM PST · by pissant · 30 replies · 1,067+ views
    DailyStanford ^ | 2/25/05 | Kalani Liefer
    “Dear Mr. Leifer: Too good to fight for your country, huh? Never mind. If need be, I suspect we can make do without you.” “Dear Mr. Smith: . . . So if you ask if I’m too good to fight for my country, I’d say no. I am, however, too good to blindly follow and not question, the very principle that makes this nation great. I’m extremely sorry you have forgotten this.” “Sir: You are a silly young man, full of your own self-importance, blinded by your own intellect. Perhaps we can continue this conversation when you’ve grown up. Best...
  • Selective Service (the rarefied air of elite colleges)

    02/20/2005 2:21:29 PM PST · by RockinRye · 42 replies · 1,670+ views
    Selective Service By Kalani Leifer Opinions Columnist Friday, February 18, 2005 Six months, 17 days. That’s how long I’ve been 18 years old. $250,000 and five years in prison. As of now, that’s what I owe the federal government for evading the draft. I am a hardnosed liberal, aren’t I? OK, OK, so maybe I’m not actually a draft-dodger. After all, last time I checked, President Bush isn’t looking to commit political suicide, and a quarter of a million dollars makes me weak in the knees. To be quite honest, my apparent refusal to register for Selective Service is grounded...
  • Democrats Want a Draft

    10/25/2004 3:05:21 PM PDT · by rsteel_ou · 22 replies · 417+ views
    I received this email and took a look at the site. Good info. Looks like they did some research on the subject. I’ll re-think my position on John Kerry. Looks like he’s the one for a draft or national service at the very least. Democrats and Kerry want us drafted. www.truthfreedomnews.com/opinion.htm Democrats for a DraftTake a look at: www.truthfreedomnews.com Make a difference. Email this to as many people as you can today. Especially college students.
  • Registering to vote & selective service (Need help with a question)

    10/22/2004 9:30:37 AM PDT · by RepublicanArmy · 16 replies · 498+ views
    Vanity | Republican Army
    Ok fellow freepers I heard a guy saying that he is behind President Bush completely but he won't register to vote. He said that if he registers to vote he will also be signing up with selective service & he doesn't want to do that in case they have a draft. I tried to explain to him that there isn't going to be a draft if President Bush is re-elected but he said if things get really bad he knows they would have to do it even if they don't want to. He also said if kerry gets in he...
  • Bush Orders Military Draft to Win More Votes (Satire)

    10/15/2004 8:28:48 PM PDT · by The Loan Arranger · 1 replies · 211+ views
    Scrappleface.com ^ | October 15, 2004 | Scott Ott
    President George Bush today issued an executive order reinstituting the military draft in order to boost his chances of winning reelection on November 2. Top Democrat leaders like Howard Dean, Michael Moore and John Forbes Kerry have warned for weeks that Mr. Bush plans to restart the draft if he wins a second term, so today's sudden announcement surprised many. White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the president made the decision based on new polling data which shows that Mr. Bush enjoys overwhelming popularity among U.S. military personnel, and 94 percent of them plan to vote. "Two-thirds of the military...
  • RANGEL'S RIGHTFUL HUMILIATION (About Dems proposing reinstating the draft and the House voting no)

    10/07/2004 7:49:55 AM PDT · by The Loan Arranger · 29 replies · 1,760+ views
    The New York Post ^ | October 7, 2004
    Not that it's likely to stop the Democrats from spreading rumors to the contrary, but the House of Representatives — by an overwhelming bipartisan vote — has put the lie to any claim that the military draft is coming back. The House, voting 402-2, rejected Rep. Charles Rangel's bill to reinstate the draft, which was suspended in 1973. The legislation would have required all men and women ages 18 to 26 to perform two years of military or civilian service.
  • A New Draft: Thinking the Unthinkable (4 Letters)

    10/06/2004 1:22:04 AM PDT · by neverdem · 31 replies · 871+ views
    NY Times ^ | October 6, 2004 | NA
    A New Draft: Thinking the Unthinkable (4 Letters) To the Editor: Re "The Option Nobody's Pushing. Yet" (Week in Review, Oct. 3): You gave an insightful overview of the elements that may propel our country to reinstate the draft. But I was dumbfounded by only an oblique reference to what would undoubtedly be the defining issue for Congress and the American public: equality of the sexes. In this post-Vietnam era, there are two inconceivables: that only men would be drafted or that both men and women would be subject to the draft. Drafting only men would undoubtedly run aground if...
  • House GOP Brings Up Draft In Order to Knock It Down

    10/05/2004 10:42:55 PM PDT · by neverdem · 3 replies · 354+ views
    The Washington Post ^ | October 6, 2004 | Charles Babington and Don Oldenburg
    Rumors of reinstating the military draft, which have flourished for months in panicky e-mails, online chat rooms, college dorms and student newspapers, suddenly dominated the House floor yesterday in one of the strangest parliamentary maneuvers in memory. With even its sponsor voting against it, a bill to require young adults to perform military or civil service failed, 402 to 2. The vote put an end to HR 163, but Democrats and Republicans signaled they will continue to accuse each other of contemplating a revival of conscription, at least through the presidential campaign's final month, and probably as long as U.S....
  • Bill to Restore the Draft Is Defeated in the House

    10/05/2004 9:30:21 PM PDT · by neverdem · 37 replies · 1,051+ views
    NY Times ^ | October 6, 2004 | CARL HULSE
    WASHINGTON, Oct. 5 - Trying to quiet fears of a return of the draft, the House Republican leadership engaged in a hasty call-up of its own on Tuesday. The Republicans brought to the floor a Democratic-sponsored proposal to reinstate mandatory military service and presided over its overwhelming defeat on a vote of 402 to 2. "We're going to put a nail in that coffin," said the House majority leader, Representative Tom DeLay of Texas. He accused Democrats of generating opposition to President Bush - especially on college campuses - by raising the idea that the draft might be re-established after...
  • Selective Service System Notice [re: Preparing for a Draft]

    10/02/2004 1:54:24 PM PDT · by glock rocks · 20 replies · 634+ views
    Selective Service System ^ | current web page | Agency Statement
    Notwithstanding recent stories in the news media and on the Internet, Selective Service is not getting ready to conduct a draft for the U.S. Armed Forces -- either with a special skills or regular draft. Rather, the Agency remains prepared to manage a draft if and when the President and the Congress so direct. This responsibility has been ongoing since 1980 and is nothing new. Further, both the President and the Secretary of Defense have stated on more than one occasion that there is no need for a draft for the War on Terrorism or any likely contingency, such as...
  • Somebody Feel a Draft? The politics of fear & division...

    09/29/2004 4:50:24 PM PDT · by backhoe · 27 replies · 1,150+ views
    various FR links | 09-29-04 | The Heavy Equipment Guy
     Alert - 5:27 Central - Fox News Special Report - picking up on CBS Draft Fraud  Blogger Bump--http://powerlineblog.com/archives/008003.php  He credited the blogosphere for debunking and exposing yet another cBS "news" piece, this one about the draft.  Read about it at Little Green Footballs  See The Issues: Reviving The Draft [1984 alert: CBS transcript inserts ID of Cocco: wasn't in broadcast].    WHY THERE WILL BE A MILITARY DRAFT IF JOHN KERRY IS ELECTED    Universal National Service Act of 2003 (The DRAFT) - HR 163 - ALL DEMS behind it    CBS Legitimizes Draft Fear, Driving Mom from Bush to...
  • Military Draft Considered in U.S. House, Senate

    09/29/2004 2:34:21 PM PDT · by presidio9 · 30 replies · 1,414+ views
    Challenge Group Newspapers ^ | Sep 28, 2004 | Nayaba Arinde,
    “There is always a possibility of the draft returning,” said activist Sam Anderson. “For Black, Latino, Native American, Asian and poor white youth, there is a powerful economic draft that forces our children into the military with promises of discounted higher education, benefits, job skills development and travelling the world. The shrinking civilian job market with sweatshop labor conditions helps create this economic draft. “Hence, the proposed draft legislation does not have to be passed to ensure a multimillion populated standing army for the protection and promotion of imperialism and white supremacy.” As the 2004 presidential election looms, published reports...