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  • Pre-Vatican II [Non Caucus Open thread]

    06/11/2017 12:57:49 PM PDT · by Trad Bishop · 95 replies
    First of all, today is the Feast Day of the Blessed Trinity, and so we would wish all of you a Happy Feast Day, and in particular we would wish the Eternal Father a Happy Father's Day! For those who are unaware or need to be reminded, belief in a Trinitarian God, that is Three Persons, One God, comes to us from our elder brothers and sisters in the faith, the Jews. The belief in the Trinitarian God as described is the universally accepted criteria to receive and accept the designation as a true Christian. So we Catholics should be...
  • Pope Emeritus Benedict breaks silence: speaks of ‘deep crisis’ facing Church post-Vatican II

    03/16/2016 2:41:20 PM PDT · by NYer · 31 replies
    Life Site News ^ | March 16, 2016 | Maike Hickson
    March 16, 2016 (LifeSiteNews.com) -- On March 16, speaking publicly on a rare occasion, Pope Benedict XVI gave an interview to Avvenire, the daily newspaper of the Italian Bishops' Conference, in which he spoke of a “two-sided deep crisis” the Church is facing in the wake of the Second Vatican Council. The report has already hit Germany courtesy of Vaticanist Guiseppe Nardi, of the German Catholic news website Katholisches.info. Pope Benedict reminds us of the formerly indispensable Catholic conviction of the possibility of the loss of eternal salvation, or that people go to hell: The missionaries of the 16th...
  • Pope Francis confirms it: SSPX has always had supplied jurisdiction [Catholic Caucus]

    09/02/2015 5:55:55 AM PDT · by BlatherNaut · 15 replies
    Harvesting the Fruit of Vatican II ^ | 9/1/15 | Louie Verrecchio
    As the entire “traditionalist” (aka Catholic) community surely knows by now, in a Letter of the Holy Father Francis to the President of the Pontifical Council for the Promotion of the New Evangelization at the beginning of the Extraordinary Jubilee of Mercy, Pope Francis stated: A final consideration concerns those faithful who for various reasons choose to attend churches officiated by priests of the Fraternity of St Pius X. This Jubilee Year of Mercy excludes no one. From various quarters, several Brother Bishops have told me of their good faith and sacramental practice, combined however with an uneasy situation from...
  • A Look at the “Actual Mass” of Vatican II: the 1965 Missal

    01/29/2015 7:46:27 AM PST · by Salvation · 47 replies
    Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 01-28-15 | Msgr. Charles Pope
    A Look at the “Actual Mass” of Vatican II: the 1965 Missal By: Msgr. Charles PopeA couple of weeks ago I wrote a cautionary article aimed at my traditionally-minded brethren saying, among other things, that we ought to be careful in identifying the Ordinary Form of the Mass (1970 Missal and beyond) as the “Mass of Vatican II.”  I will not reproduce that whole article here. I will only recall three points:1. The Mass was already undergoing significant changes, beginning in the 1940s and picking up speed through the 1950s. More changes were planned by the Vatican before the Second Vatican...
  • A SIMPLE, COMMON SENSE REBUTTAL to SSPX, SSPV and CMRI

    07/21/2007 6:19:13 AM PDT · by JosephJames · 48 replies · 1,534+ views
    My own work ^ | June 29, 2007 | Joseph Dwight
    The following article (with the university class reference documents) was written with the motive to help my sister and her husband, with seven children, to leave the traditionalist groups SSPX, SSPV and CMRI and to return to the one, true Catholic Church. If you want the reference documents (Ecclesiology.doc, Religious-Freedom.doc, Psy-Cult.doc and Subsists.doc), send an email to: josephdwight@hotmail.com; please specify if you want the documents in plain text format or MSWord format with the footnotes incorporated, or in one document all together in either format. A SIMPLE, COMMON SENSE REBUTTAL to SSPX, SSPV and CMRI When I was younger my...
  • Fr. Longenecker strikes again

    07/14/2014 11:38:21 AM PDT · by BlatherNaut · 174 replies
    Harvesting the Fruit of Vatican II ^ | 7/14/14 | Louie Verrecchio
    Fr. Dwight Longenecker, posting on his“Standing on my Head” blog (appropriately named given the frequency with which pontifications seem to flow so freely from his other end), recently suggested that traditionalists (aka Catholics) are “getting old.” Obviously, he’s never been to a “traditionalist” gathering to witness the overwhelming presence of young, often quite large, families. “Not only are they dying out,” he wrote, “but their ideas are dying out.” It isn’t immediately clear what “ideas” he has in mind, but presumably he is speaking of such notions as the Social Kingship of Christ as taught with such stunning clarity by...
  • Rodriguez Carballo Lets the Cat out of the Bag: “Fidelity to the Council is Not Negotiable"

    05/08/2014 5:08:11 PM PDT · by ebb tide · 3 replies
    The Eponymous Flower ^ | May 7, 2014 | Giuseppe Nardi
    (Barcelona / Rome) Does the Congregation of Religious suffer from a villainous portrait of tradition? This question has hung in the air since last weekend. The Franciscan José Rodriguez Carballo, for a year secretary of the Congregation for Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life, participated in a Conference of Religious of Catalonia. In his speech he delivered last Saturday without directly mentioning the Order by name, gave a first official hint as to why the Franciscans of the Immaculate have been reprimanded by his Congregation. The reason implied much to the young religious Order, and is of...
  • Pope Paul VI: Next Contestant on the Santo Subito Show

    04/28/2014 10:22:50 AM PDT · by BlatherNaut · 22 replies
    The Remnant ^ | 4/24/14 | Michael Matt
    But, wait, there’s more! According to La Stampa, Pope Paul VI has reportedly been penciled in for beatification this coming fall at the conclusion of the Synod of Bishops in Rome. Yes, that’s right—Paul VI! Remember him? That vague, sort of nondescript pontiff who made up for negligible personal magnetism with an almost fanatical penchant for novelty. There is no particular cult associated with his cause, of course, other than among a few aging ecclesiastical hippies inside the Vatican who are evidently bound and determined to nominate their pal Paul for a Halo Award, come hell or high water. Something...
  • Assessing Vatican II: A Response to My Critics

    05/22/2013 11:15:39 AM PDT · by NYer · 16 replies
    Crisis Magazine ^ | May 22, 2013 | Fr. Regis Scanlon, O.F.M. Cap
    It’s ironic to me that my recent article, “Fifty Years Later—Vatican II’s Unfinished Business,” has provoked anger among many traditionalists, because for most of my priesthood I have angered liberals who consider me an arch traditionalist. Nevertheless I want to respond to those traditionalists who include both the SSPX and my fellow Catholics still fully united to the Church. I assure you of my prayers and support for your passionate defense of Church practices through the ages.Nevertheless, I stand fully by my article and support the Second Vatican Council, called by one pope, John XXIII, and brought to a close...
  • Fatima, Freemasonry, Vatican II and 1960

    05/22/2013 12:57:42 PM PDT · by Brian Kopp DPM · 44 replies
    Consecration Now Conference ^ | May 13, 2011 | John Salza
    “Freemasonry, Vatican II and 1960” By John Salza Consecration Now Conference Rome, May 13, 2011 There is a body of clear and compelling testimony from the likes of Cardinal Pacelli (future Pope Pius XII), Fr. Fuentes, Fr. Alonso, Fr. Schweigl ,Cardinal Oddi, Cardinal Ciappi, Fr. Malachi Martin, and even Cardinal Ratzinger (the future pope Benedict XVI) that the Third Secret of Fatima, not yet revealed by the Vatican, predicts a spiritual crisis in the bosom of the Church. In this presentation, I am going to elaborate on this theme, by demonstrating that this crisis is nothing less than a world...
  • Pope Francis says Catholics still need to enact teachings of Vatican II

    04/17/2013 1:47:02 PM PDT · by NYer · 39 replies
    cns ^ | April 16, 2013 | Cindy Wooden
    (CNS/Paul Haring) By Cindy WoodenCatholic News Service VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- While some Catholics would like to undo the reforms of the Second Vatican Council, others basically are trying to build a monument to it rather than fully live its teachings, Pope Francis said. In his homily April 16 at an early morning Mass in the chapel of his residence, the Domus Sanctae Marthae, Pope Francis said Christians must struggle with the temptation to tame the Holy Spirit. "To speak plainly: The Holy Spirit annoys us," he said. The Spirit "moves us, makes us walk, pushes the church to...
  • Benedict XVI: Vatican II as I saw it

    02/15/2013 2:12:47 PM PST · by NYer · 9 replies
    New Liturgical Movement ^ | February 15, 2013 | SHAWN TRIBE
    Recently there has been some vigorous discussion around the question of the Council, continuity and rupture. Yesterday, Pope Benedict XVI shared his own reflections on this subject, which has been published on the Vatican Radio website here: Pope Benedict's Last Great Master Class: Vatican II, as I saw it. The entire address can be read over there, but I thought I would publish the following excerpts which should be of particular interest to NLM readers: ... we went to the Council not only with joy, but with enthusiasm. The expectation was incredible. We hoped that everything would be renewed, that...
  • The Top Ten Most Important Church Councils

    10/29/2012 1:25:18 PM PDT · by NYer · 57 replies
    CE ^ | October 25, 2012 | STEPHEN BEALE
    To be deep into history, John Henry Newman wrote, is to cease to be a Protestant. Put another way, to be deep into history is to become stronger in the Catholic faith—something we are all called to do in this Year of Faith.To make that journey into the history of our faith is to discover anew its most basic tenets. Who was Jesus really? How can God be three persons in one being? What is the proper role of the Church in salvation? And how does Mary fit into all this?These questions, and many more, were raised and answered in...
  • Essays for Lent/Easter: Traditionalists [Catholic Caucus]

    04/17/2012 8:05:46 PM PDT · by Salvation · 16 replies
    StayCatholic.com ^ | 2006 | Sebastian R. Fama
     Traditionalistsby Sebastian R. FamaThere are a number of Traditionalist groups who reject the Second Vatican Council and the changes that followed. They consider those who have accepted the changes to be what they call "The Conciliar Church." They somehow imagine that members of this "Conciliar Church" are no longer Catholic and that they themselves are the loyal remnant. Traditionalists are well aware that ecumenical councils have always spoken with authority. They try to get around this by claiming that Vatican II was a pastoral and not a doctrinal council. A pastoral council, they contend, can teach error and thus does...
  • For the record - Latest Tornielli: "Fellay's response has arrived; it is positive"

    04/17/2012 10:01:38 PM PDT · by narses · 8 replies
    Just mentioned by Andrea Tornielli for La Stampa: Lefebvrists: the positive response has arrived 17.09.2012 (1900 GMT - 2100 Rome) The Superior of the Society of Saint Pius X has signed the doctrinal preamble proposed by the Holy See, even if with some slight modifications ANDREA TORNIELLI CITTŔ DEL VATICANO The response of the Society of Saint Pius X has arrived in the Vatican and it is positive: according to the informal information gathered by Vatican Insider, Bishop Bernard Fellay would have signed the doctrinal preamble that the Holy See had proposed last September as a condition to reach full...
  • 1968 – A Fateful and Terrible Year Where Many in the Church Drank the Poison of this World

    03/12/2012 2:25:37 PM PDT · by NYer · 29 replies
    Archdiocese of Washington ^ | March 11, 2012 | Msgr. Charles Pope
    There was something awful about the year 1968.I was but a lad at the time, merely seven or eight years of age, but almost everything on the T.V. terrified me. Terrible reports from Viet Nam, (where my father was at the time), the Tet Offensive nightly reports of death and casualties (was my daddy one of the ones killed?). Riots and anti-war demonstrations in America’s cities and college campuses. The first stirrings of militant feminism. A second hideous year of hippies with their “summer of love” nonsense, which was just an excuse for selfish, spoiled college kids to get high,...
  • Finally listening to Blessed John XXIII? (Latin for Seminarians)

    12/28/2011 5:21:46 AM PST · by markomalley · 8 replies
    The hermeneutic of continuity ^ | Dec. 28, 2011 | Fr Tim Finigan
    Blessed Pope John XXIII, in the Apostolic Constitution Veterum Sapientia of 1962, strongly mandated the study and use of Latin in ecclesiastical studies, theology, the Liturgy, and as a prerequisite for priestly formation. This February, there is to be an International Convention in Rome to mark the 50th anniversary of Veterum Sapientia. I can't help thinking that after 50 years we are perhaps finally prepared to take the document of the Blessed Pope seriously. Here is one passage from the standard translation that you can find in various places on the internet: Of its very nature Latin is most suitable for promoting...
  • The Assent Owed to Vatican II (Catholic Caucus)

    12/02/2011 2:59:57 PM PST · by NYer · 27 replies
    Catholic Culture ^ | December 2, 2011 | Jeff Mirus
    From Our Store: Essays in Apologetics, Volume I (eBook) What is finally emerging as the sticking point between the Vatican and the Society of Saint Pius X is the question of the assent owed to the Second Vatican Council. This is now the subject of an important essay in L’Osservatore Romano by one of the key negotiators for the Vatican, the vicar general of Opus Dei, Msgr. Fernando Ocariz. Note that there is a link to the full text at the end of our news story, which itself includes substantial quotations.I hate to say I told you so, but Msgr. Ocariz...
  • Interview with Bishop Bernard Fellay: The Society of St. Pius X and the Doctrinal Preamble

    11/28/2011 3:35:35 PM PST · by mas cerveza por favor · 2 replies
    DICI ^ | 11/28/2011 | DICI
    Q. Why is the Doctrinal Preamble that Cardinal Levada delivered to you on September 14 still surrounded by so much secrecy, both on the part of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and by the Society of St. Pius X? What is this silence hiding from the priests and faithful of Tradition? A. This discretion is normal for any important proceeding; it ensures the seriousness of it. It so happens that the Doctrinal Preamble that was delivered to us is a document which can be clarified and modified, as the accompanying note points out. It is not a...
  • Pius X Society says Vatican's current offer not acceptable (Catholic Caucus)

    11/29/2011 3:30:59 PM PST · by NYer · 21 replies
    cna ^ | November 29, 2011 | David Kerr
    St. Pius X Society superior general Bishop Bernard Fellay Rome, Italy, Nov 29, 2011 / 01:16 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- The Superior General of the Society of St. Pius X says he will inform the Vatican “in the next few days” that they cannot give the doctrinal reassurances required of them to advance reconciliation with the Catholic Church.“It is true that this Doctrinal Preamble cannot receive our endorsement,” said Bishop Bernard Fellay on the society’s website, Nov. 28. However, Bishop Fellay said his understanding is that the document is “not a definite text” and that it “can be clarified and...