Try dealing with context.
The issue was when did most of the Southern states secede.
That was before the Army was raised, not after.
So the question was not whether a army was raised, but did it cause most of the Southern states to secede and the answer is no, most of the South had secede before the Army could be assembled.
So you are wrong for making an out of context comment.
Not what I asked. I asked who was following McDowell into Virginia.
That was before the Army was raised, not after.
Not what I asked. I asked who was following McDowell into Virginia.
So the question was not whether a army was raised, but did it cause most of the Southern states to secede and the answer is no, most of the South had secede before the Army could be assembled.
Not what I asked. I asked who was following McDowell into Virginia.
The problem is (as I see it from my computer) is that you think I asked that question because I was trying to blame the North for something. I was not. I read your post (and not the argument) and you wrote, what I thought, was the most ridiculous thing I've read in a long time. That Lincoln did not have an army. (I wonder what those men ((all dressed in blue and calling each other Captain, Colonel, etc., in November, 1860)) thought they were a part of... a fraternity, a country-club, a debating society? Sorry, but even that has no bearing on the question I asked.)
I asked who did McDowell have with him?
Instead of just answering - an army - you go on the attack and try to explain to me that had nothing to do with the Southerns or States seceding from the Union.
I don't really care. Are you so agenda driven that you are afraid to answer a question as simple as the one I asked?
Did you think I was trying to trap you?
How sad is that?
Even in your last post, you won't answer the question. You just write another post ordering me to look at the context.
I get where you are coming from. North good, South bad. North not to blame. South-100% responsible.
So, I will try asking again. Who did McDowell have with him in July, 1861, all dressed in blue and heading toward Richmond? Perhaps you can find it in yourself to post the answer. (Hint, it was an army.)