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1 posted on 05/14/2024 1:53:05 AM PDT by grundle
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I wouldn’t have a problem with groups of kids walking together to school. I walked along for at least 700m, about 8 or nine blocks, from my home to Jean Vanier school when I was young, but I think it’s too dangerous for kids to walk in the city these days.


2 posted on 05/14/2024 1:59:41 AM PDT by Jonty30 (He hunted a mammoth for me, just because I said I was hungry. He is such a good friend. )
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Crime rates in Chicago versus Switzerland? Maybe fewer of “them” - the ones Boo-Boo keeps asking about - in Switzerland?


3 posted on 05/14/2024 2:00:33 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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“my daughter” mentioned 5 times but no mention of any other children, or husband. Modern, and not good as a norm.


5 posted on 05/14/2024 2:24:39 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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We walked to school. From Kindergarten.

It seemed stupid to drive my kids to school, but we did it. Like everyone.


8 posted on 05/14/2024 2:34:50 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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The back road through the woods we used to walk home from school some sunny days?

Now it’s four lanes through a half-dozen huge condo developments with traffic lights every quarter mile.


9 posted on 05/14/2024 2:38:39 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America.)
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It’s the same in Japan...there’s a point where they almost force the kids to go to the store on their own and get something. A lot of times they have someone trail them just to be safe, but the idea is sorta like forcing the baby bird out of the nest to make them more independent. Helicopter parenting has weakened us in my opinion.


11 posted on 05/14/2024 3:09:49 AM PDT by reed13k
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Ask her what she thinks about Trump, then explain that the inability of kids to SAFELY walk to school is the alternative.


12 posted on 05/14/2024 3:10:36 AM PDT by BobL
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Slightly off-topic, “parent” was a noun for HUNDREDS of years.

The verb form of “parent”—in particular, its gerund “parenting”—was first employed in the United States in the late 1950s according to The Merriam-Webster Dictionary. However, Fitzhugh Dodson’s 1970 book, “How to Parent,” is credited with introducing the verb to a wide audience.

https://www.kqed.org/mindshift/60100/how-economic-anxiety-and-demographic-changes-turned-parent-into-a-verb

Anyone who uses the word “parenting” or “parent” as a verb should be tarred and feathered.


13 posted on 05/14/2024 3:22:47 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s² )
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Hard to believe this is true.

Someone in her suburban neighborhood would have called Social Services.

On their first visit, Social Services would strongly imply that this lack of supervision is criminal child neglect.


15 posted on 05/14/2024 3:41:51 AM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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Opposite the Swiss version, which promotes independence from the time a child can walk, American parenting culture seems to say to the child: I'm in charge of getting you to school — you have no agency. If it's cold, I'll keep you warm. If it's raining, I'll keep you dry. If it's snowing, sure, wear your sneakers, I'll drive you. If you're late for school, it's not your fault, it's mine.

I noticed this change in American culture over the last 40 years. It is not good. It is partly driven by the media which parents consume, constantly keeping them in fear over extremely rare events and risks.

16 posted on 05/14/2024 3:51:31 AM PDT by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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In Brooklyn I walked about 5 blocks to school starting from kindergarten when I was 5. Everyone did. My friends and I would go out and play in the morning and not come home until dark. Our parents had no idea where we were. We rode our bikes miles from home. It was normal in the late 50s early 60s. My mother told me that women would go to department stores and leave there infants in strollers outside unattended. It’s different world. My kids barely let their kids out of their sight.


18 posted on 05/14/2024 3:55:25 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (A vote for Biden in 2024 is a vote for President Kamala Harris in 2025.)
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But when it comes to parenting culture, I still struggle to accept the lack of freedom we give our children, perhaps because it’s the very thing we say our country stands for.

Just so.

I know we boomers all walked to school or rode the bus independently or whatever. Now we keep our kids from experiencing that independence and the responsibility it builds.

I do acknowledge that places like Chicago are not the same as in the 60’s-80’s but still...we coddle children until they become the selfish whiney and obnoxious little demons we abhor.


19 posted on 05/14/2024 4:02:22 AM PDT by Adder (End fascism...defeat all Democrats.)
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“children as young as five walk or bike to school alone. If there is ice on the streets, they fall and get up again.”

You mean, like we did?

Of course, those were better days, and safer. Pervs hadn’t inundated civilization.


20 posted on 05/14/2024 4:15:39 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Navarro didn't kill himself.)
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I see a yes and a no to this article. The no part is this is Chicago. I’d never live there in the first place.

The yes part is I agree with kids learning independence and doing more on their own. They are valuable learning experiences that can be carried into adulthood making them more apt to be successful in employment or in their own business. That rugged individualism is what made America so successful before the left reversed it all.

As a 7 and 8 year old boy I walked about 5 blocks to school everyday, except during the cold winter.


21 posted on 05/14/2024 4:21:38 AM PDT by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not mater how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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Over the years I have witnessed the pussification of America. It has really gotten bad.


23 posted on 05/14/2024 4:38:32 AM PDT by Thomas Jerome
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The quarter famous person, “life is tough. Wear a helmet.”


24 posted on 05/14/2024 4:39:08 AM PDT by cuban leaf (2024 is going to be one for the history books, like 1939. And 2025 will be more so, like 1940-1945.)
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Switzerland is distinctly less “diverse” than much of Western Europe. Therefore its a lot safer to let your 7 year old walk a few blocks on their own. I wouldn’t be willing to risk it in Chicago - even in a nice neighborhood.


28 posted on 05/14/2024 5:09:23 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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Apparently she won’t drive the child to school because of the environment and pollution


32 posted on 05/14/2024 5:14:42 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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I started walking alone a half a mile to kindergarten when I was five and continued to do so throughout my grade school yers. However, this was when my state of California had two Republican US Senators and a Republican governor, and both Los Angeles and San Francisco had Republican mayors. Different galaxy.


34 posted on 05/14/2024 5:33:28 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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When we were growing up, during summer our parents would tell us, “Get out of the house and be back for dinner.”


40 posted on 05/14/2024 5:53:24 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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